6 Degrees of Separation - Page 9 - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Lindolirian · 02-12-2003, 06:25 PM

Uinéniel -> Gloin

Pallando B.C · 02-13-2003, 02:17 AM

Uinéniel ->Elendil ->Elrond ->Gloin

[ February 13, 2003: Message edited by: Pallando B.C ]

Lindolirian · 02-13-2003, 04:39 PM

I don't think she knew Elendil or was closely related. Try someone a bit closer to her.

Pallando B.C · 02-13-2003, 09:01 PM

Quote:

Zamîn ->Erendis ->Elendil ->Isildur ->Etselmo

This is an answer I gave to Bruce MacCulloch regarding another question.

Notice the link : Erendis ->Elendil

This connection was correct according to Bruce. Also regarding the name Uinéniel:

Quote:

A title, meaning 'Daughter of Uinen' given by Aldarion to Erendis, in the days when he was seeking her hand in marriage.

What do you think? Was Bruce MacCulloch wrong?

[ February 13, 2003: Message edited by: Pallando B.C ]

Bruce MacCulloch · 02-13-2003, 09:29 PM

Quote:

What do you think? Was Bruce MacCulloch wrong?

Yes.
I seem to have developed a nasty habit of looking at one post and mistaking it for another. If you look at the post immediately preceding the one in which I confirmed your answer, you will see the hitherto unacknowledged correct answer.

Pallando B.C · 02-14-2003, 04:09 PM

Ohhh ok. So I wasn't right on that one before. That's fine and no harm done.

Lindolirian · 02-20-2003, 04:33 PM

You were getting pretty close, Pallando. Have at it again!

Pallando B.C · 02-20-2003, 07:21 PM

Usually I wouldn't want to go, since I didn't get the answer, but this thread is probably the best on the Quiz Room and it needs to be continued.

Gamil Zirak -> Belladonna Took

In one seperation, you need to think a differently.

Lindolirian · 02-20-2003, 07:31 PM

In one separation? You mean only one person in between? Wow. Lemme think...

Are you sure this can be done in only one separation? Or am I not understanding you correctly?

Pallando B.C · 02-20-2003, 09:30 PM

No, I think you mis-understand me. It wasn't really explained well so I'm sorry.

Here is what I mean:

Gamil Zirak -> ? -> ? -> *** -> ? -> Belladonna Took.

*** = This is the example I was talking of. This seperation is where you have to think outside the box and come up with a different kind of answer.

It is impossible to get this question with only one seperation.

Sorry for the confusion.

the real findorfin · 02-21-2003, 08:23 AM

Gamil Zirak - Thingol - Galadriel - Glorfindel - Bilbo Baggins - Belladona Took

Gamil Zirak made many treasures for the store houses of Thingol.

I am assuming Glorfindel met Galadriel sometime in there long history (either in Aman, or after his re-encarnation.)

If not then I can slip in Turgon in between and do it in 7.

Pallando B.C · 02-22-2003, 04:45 AM

If no-one minds I would prefer this answer to include the instructions I put forth.

The answer also involves no assumtions.

Lindolirian · 02-22-2003, 11:44 AM

Gamil Zirak-> Thingol-> Melian-> Olorin-> Belladonna Took

Pallando B.C · 02-22-2003, 05:41 PM

That's It, but..... try and get it through something that is inanimate.

Lindolirian · 02-23-2003, 11:10 AM

Gamil Zirak-> Angrist*-> Morgoth-> Manwë-> Olorin-> Belladonna Took.

* the knife that his apprentice made that cut the Silmaril from the Iron Crown.

Now we could take out Manwë because both Olorin and Morgoth are Ainu, and put in Telchar between Gamil and Angrist, but I think you get the gist o' things.

Pallando B.C · 02-23-2003, 04:21 PM

I'll take that. It could have also been:

Gamil Zirak ->Telchar ->Narsil ->Bilbo ->Belladonna Took.

Lindolirian · 02-23-2003, 05:09 PM

Oh thats right! Telchar did make Narsil. Lemme see, I think Aragorn said that at the gates of Meduseld. Ok then...

Bombur-> Mahtan

Pallando B.C · 02-23-2003, 09:59 PM

Bombur ->Olorin -> Aulë -> Mahtan

We don't like Gandalf links though do we. So....

Bombur ->Gloin -> Frodo ->Galadriel -> ** Mahtan

** Not sure of their meeting. Only clue is that their both Noldor. If they didn't meet, put Fëanor in their for me!

Lindolirian · 02-24-2003, 08:24 AM

That last one was correct with Fëanor in it. Go ahead!

Pallando B.C · 02-25-2003, 02:04 AM

Lothíriel -> Lúthien

Try NOT to use Galadriel.

Lindolirian · 02-25-2003, 03:09 PM

Lothiriel-> Eomer-> Saruman-> Mandos-> Luthien

Pallando B.C · 02-25-2003, 04:09 PM

Great Work!

Lindolirian · 02-26-2003, 03:50 PM

Erellont-> Gamling

Pallando B.C · 02-27-2003, 04:52 AM

Erellont ->Eärendil ->Círdan ->Galadriel ->Aragorn ->Gamling

Lindolirian · 02-27-2003, 09:40 AM

Elrond would have been quicker, but yes, your's works as well.

Pallando B.C · 02-27-2003, 04:32 PM

Labadal ->Aerandir

Lindolirian · 02-27-2003, 05:53 PM

Labadal-> Turin-> Gelmir and/or Arminas-> Cirdan-> Earendil-> Aerandir

Pallando B.C · 02-27-2003, 06:57 PM

Yes, but you could cut one from there by using a connection with realtives.

Lindolirian · 02-27-2003, 07:59 PM

Right
Labadal-> Túrin-> Tuor-> Earendil-> Aerandir

Pallando B.C · 02-27-2003, 09:05 PM

Exactly what I had.

Lindolirian · 03-01-2003, 05:03 PM

Vàna-> Elfstan Fairbairn

Pallando B.C · 03-01-2003, 06:27 PM

Without a Gandalf link I presume.

Vána ->Eärendil ->Elrond ->Samwise ->Elfstan Fairbairn

Lindolirian · 03-02-2003, 12:13 PM

Did Eärendil meet Vàna?
Remember, in your own words:

Quote:

The answer also involves no assumtions.

Pallando B.C · 03-02-2003, 06:28 PM

I am basing that on when Eärendil was before the Valar pleading for the pardon of the Noldor.

Lindolirian · 03-02-2003, 06:29 PM

Ok then, I'll let ya have it.

Pallando B.C · 03-02-2003, 10:49 PM

I've always considered that a legit answer.

Telchar ->Nob

Must pass through a minimum of two inanimate objects.

the real findorfin · 03-03-2003, 09:05 AM

Telchar - Angrist - Morgoth - Sauron - Narsil - Aragorn - Nob

Thats seven, and all that i can do, unless Anduril and Narsil can be counted as two different objects.

Telchar - Narsil - Elrond - Anduril - Aragorn - Nob

But that seems wrong somehow

Pallando B.C · 03-03-2003, 04:17 PM

No, sorry there is a way you can do this without counting Narsil and Andúril as two seperate objects.

Both objects don't have to hade by Telchar.

[ March 03, 2003: Message edited by: Pallando B.C ]

the real findorfin · 03-04-2003, 12:41 PM

Telchar - Narsil - Aragorn - Palantir - Pippin - Nob

YESSS! That works!

Pallando B.C · 03-04-2003, 09:27 PM

Well Done

02-12-2003, 06:25 PM	#321
Lindolirian World's Tallest Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Where the view is long Posts: 2,117	Uinéniel -> Gloin __________________ 'They say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end."

02-13-2003, 02:17 AM	#322
Pallando B.C Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Rhûn, Tasmania Posts: 521	Uinéniel ->Elendil ->Elrond ->Gloin [ February 13, 2003: Message edited by: Pallando B.C ] __________________ {JHart} Support The Aussies!

02-13-2003, 04:39 PM	#323
Lindolirian World's Tallest Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Where the view is long Posts: 2,117	I don't think she knew Elendil or was closely related. Try someone a bit closer to her. __________________ 'They say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end."

02-14-2003, 04:09 PM	#326
Pallando B.C Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Rhûn, Tasmania Posts: 521	Ohhh ok. So I wasn't right on that one before. That's fine and no harm done. __________________ {JHart} Support The Aussies!

02-20-2003, 04:33 PM	#327
Lindolirian World's Tallest Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Where the view is long Posts: 2,117	You were getting pretty close, Pallando. Have at it again! __________________ 'They say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end."

02-20-2003, 07:21 PM	#328
Pallando B.C Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Rhûn, Tasmania Posts: 521	Usually I wouldn't want to go, since I didn't get the answer, but this thread is probably the best on the Quiz Room and it needs to be continued. Gamil Zirak -> Belladonna Took In one seperation, you need to think a differently. __________________ {JHart} Support The Aussies!

02-20-2003, 07:31 PM	#329
Lindolirian World's Tallest Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Where the view is long Posts: 2,117	In one separation? You mean only one person in between? Wow. Lemme think... Are you sure this can be done in only one separation? Or am I not understanding you correctly? __________________ 'They say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end."

02-20-2003, 09:30 PM	#330
Pallando B.C Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Rhûn, Tasmania Posts: 521	No, I think you mis-understand me. It wasn't really explained well so I'm sorry. Here is what I mean: Gamil Zirak -> ? -> ? -> ***** -> ? -> Belladonna Took. ***** = This is the example I was talking of. This seperation is where you have to think outside the box and come up with a different kind of answer. It is impossible to get this question with only one seperation. Sorry for the confusion. __________________ {JHart} Support The Aussies!

02-21-2003, 08:23 AM	#331
the real findorfin Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Mirkwood Posts: 514	Gamil Zirak - Thingol - Galadriel - Glorfindel - Bilbo Baggins - Belladona Took Gamil Zirak made many treasures for the store houses of Thingol. I am assuming Glorfindel met Galadriel sometime in there long history (either in Aman, or after his re-encarnation.) If not then I can slip in Turgon in between and do it in 7. __________________ Legends of Middle Earth

02-22-2003, 04:45 AM	#332
Pallando B.C Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Rhûn, Tasmania Posts: 521	If no-one minds I would prefer this answer to include the instructions I put forth. The answer also involves no assumtions. __________________ {JHart} Support The Aussies!

02-22-2003, 11:44 AM	#333
Lindolirian World's Tallest Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Where the view is long Posts: 2,117	Gamil Zirak-> Thingol-> Melian-> Olorin-> Belladonna Took __________________ 'They say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end."

02-22-2003, 05:41 PM	#334
Pallando B.C Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Rhûn, Tasmania Posts: 521	That's It, but..... try and get it through something that is inanimate. __________________ {JHart} Support The Aussies!

02-23-2003, 11:10 AM	#335
Lindolirian World's Tallest Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Where the view is long Posts: 2,117	Gamil Zirak-> Angrist-> Morgoth-> Manwë-> Olorin-> Belladonna Took. the knife that his apprentice made that cut the Silmaril from the Iron Crown. Now we could take out Manwë because both Olorin and Morgoth are Ainu, and put in Telchar between Gamil and Angrist, but I think you get the gist o' things. __________________ 'They say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end."

02-23-2003, 04:21 PM	#336
Pallando B.C Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Rhûn, Tasmania Posts: 521	I'll take that. It could have also been: Gamil Zirak ->Telchar ->Narsil ->Bilbo ->Belladonna Took. __________________ {JHart} Support The Aussies!

02-23-2003, 05:09 PM	#337
Lindolirian World's Tallest Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Where the view is long Posts: 2,117	Oh thats right! Telchar did make Narsil. Lemme see, I think Aragorn said that at the gates of Meduseld. Ok then... Bombur-> Mahtan __________________ 'They say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end."

02-23-2003, 09:59 PM	#338
Pallando B.C Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Rhûn, Tasmania Posts: 521	Bombur ->Olorin -> Aulë -> Mahtan We don't like Gandalf links though do we. So.... Bombur ->Gloin -> Frodo ->Galadriel -> Mahtan Not sure of their meeting. Only clue is that their both Noldor. If they didn't meet, put Fëanor in their for me! __________________ {JHart} Support The Aussies!

02-24-2003, 08:24 AM	#339
Lindolirian World's Tallest Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Where the view is long Posts: 2,117	That last one was correct with Fëanor in it. Go ahead! __________________ 'They say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end."

02-25-2003, 02:04 AM	#340
Pallando B.C Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Rhûn, Tasmania Posts: 521	Lothíriel -> Lúthien Try NOT to use Galadriel. __________________ {JHart} Support The Aussies!

02-25-2003, 03:09 PM	#341
Lindolirian World's Tallest Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Where the view is long Posts: 2,117	Lothiriel-> Eomer-> Saruman-> Mandos-> Luthien __________________ 'They say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end."

02-25-2003, 04:09 PM	#342
Pallando B.C Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Rhûn, Tasmania Posts: 521	Great Work! __________________ {JHart} Support The Aussies!

02-26-2003, 03:50 PM	#343
Lindolirian World's Tallest Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Where the view is long Posts: 2,117	Erellont-> Gamling __________________ 'They say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end."

02-27-2003, 04:52 AM	#344
Pallando B.C Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Rhûn, Tasmania Posts: 521	Erellont ->Eärendil ->Círdan ->Galadriel ->Aragorn ->Gamling __________________ {JHart} Support The Aussies!

02-27-2003, 09:40 AM	#345
Lindolirian World's Tallest Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Where the view is long Posts: 2,117	Elrond would have been quicker, but yes, your's works as well. __________________ 'They say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end."

02-27-2003, 04:32 PM	#346
Pallando B.C Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Rhûn, Tasmania Posts: 521	Labadal ->Aerandir __________________ {JHart} Support The Aussies!

02-27-2003, 05:53 PM	#347
Lindolirian World's Tallest Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Where the view is long Posts: 2,117	Labadal-> Turin-> Gelmir and/or Arminas-> Cirdan-> Earendil-> Aerandir __________________ 'They say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end."

02-27-2003, 06:57 PM	#348
Pallando B.C Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Rhûn, Tasmania Posts: 521	Yes, but you could cut one from there by using a connection with realtives. __________________ {JHart} Support The Aussies!

02-27-2003, 07:59 PM	#349
Lindolirian World's Tallest Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Where the view is long Posts: 2,117	Right Labadal-> Túrin-> Tuor-> Earendil-> Aerandir __________________ 'They say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end."

02-27-2003, 09:05 PM	#350
Pallando B.C Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Rhûn, Tasmania Posts: 521	Exactly what I had. __________________ {JHart} Support The Aussies!

03-01-2003, 05:03 PM	#351
Lindolirian World's Tallest Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Where the view is long Posts: 2,117	Vàna-> Elfstan Fairbairn __________________ 'They say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end."

03-01-2003, 06:27 PM	#352
Pallando B.C Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Rhûn, Tasmania Posts: 521	Without a Gandalf link I presume. Vána ->Eärendil ->Elrond ->Samwise ->Elfstan Fairbairn __________________ {JHart} Support The Aussies!

03-02-2003, 06:28 PM	#354
Pallando B.C Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Rhûn, Tasmania Posts: 521	I am basing that on when Eärendil was before the Valar pleading for the pardon of the Noldor. __________________ {JHart} Support The Aussies!

03-02-2003, 06:29 PM	#355
Lindolirian World's Tallest Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Where the view is long Posts: 2,117	Ok then, I'll let ya have it. __________________ 'They say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end."

03-02-2003, 10:49 PM	#356
Pallando B.C Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Rhûn, Tasmania Posts: 521	I've always considered that a legit answer. Telchar ->Nob Must pass through a minimum of two inanimate objects. __________________ {JHart} Support The Aussies!

03-03-2003, 09:05 AM	#357
the real findorfin Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Mirkwood Posts: 514	Telchar - Angrist - Morgoth - Sauron - Narsil - Aragorn - Nob Thats seven, and all that i can do, unless Anduril and Narsil can be counted as two different objects. Telchar - Narsil - Elrond - Anduril - Aragorn - Nob But that seems wrong somehow __________________ Legends of Middle Earth

03-03-2003, 04:17 PM	#358
Pallando B.C Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Rhûn, Tasmania Posts: 521	No, sorry there is a way you can do this without counting Narsil and Andúril as two seperate objects. Both objects don't have to hade by Telchar. [ March 03, 2003: Message edited by: Pallando B.C ] __________________ {JHart} Support The Aussies!