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**The Saucepan Man** · 04-22-2005, 07:19 PM

Hello? Is there anybody there?

Estelyn Telcontar · 04-23-2005, 01:17 AM

I am, but as I haven't the time to work this out and search for it, I keep looking in, in hopes that someone else does!

**The Saucepan Man** · 05-03-2005, 05:50 PM

It is a snippet of a conversation between Hobbits.

Estelyn Telcontar · 05-04-2005, 02:05 AM

Thanks for the hint and your patience, Saucy! I finally took the time to figure it out - the only thing that occurred to me at first as a contrast to "Earthwoman" was "Skywalker"!

But the Miss/Mr. clue helped - there aren't many hobbits in the book who addressed themselves like that. Here's the quote:

Quote:

'And you can say what you like, about what you know no more of than you do of boating, Mr. Sandyman,' retorted the Gaffer, disliking the miller even more than usual. 'If that's being queer, then we could do with a bit more queerness in these parts...'

**The Saucepan Man** · 05-04-2005, 02:29 AM

That's the one Esty. Well done and over to you.

Estelyn Telcontar · 05-14-2005, 05:16 AM

Here's a new one - these are not easy to do, since not all vocabulary lends itself to opposites, so I hope it's not too difficult to find the answer. There is one clue that should help...

Quote:

Then don't act reckless! ...nor as loud as I can't act! Here certainly is a Cleanair in the top, and now never here isn't. Do forbid them to bring no necessary certainties!

HerenIstarion · 06-02-2005, 01:38 AM

Indeed, I was looking for foul water on the bottom of some places, or maybe some dirt somewhere, and scanned half of Frodo'n'Sam dialogues in Mordor, but it was more subtle than this! My complinents, Estelyn, much cunning exhibited, I daresay

Quote:

Now do be careful! And quiet as you can be! There may be no Smaug at the bottom but then again there may be. Don't let us take any unnecessary risks!

Bilbo to dwarves as they were about going down the secret tunnel to Smaug's lair.

Estelyn Telcontar · 06-02-2005, 01:41 AM

Why thank you, kind sir! I am pleased both with my cunning idea and with the fact that you solved the riddle! Carry on - I'm afraid I'll have to sit this one out, though, as I'll be away from my home PC for a few weeks...

HerenIstarion · 06-02-2005, 02:30 AM

Next one to puzzle passers by, than

Quote:

Holding a fast, they are sure to be resurrected quite shortly in all cases.

HerenIstarion · 08-08-2005, 05:00 AM

Well, I surmise it's a high time for a hint

The quote in my previous was uttered by a plumpier-than-average dwarf.

Estelyn Telcontar · 08-09-2005, 12:19 AM

Quote:

"But without a feast we shan't remain alive much longer anyway," said Bombur

...speaking of the Woodland Elves.

(The fat Dwarf clue did it!)

HerenIstarion · 08-09-2005, 12:21 AM

Yes, of course. Pray proceed

Estelyn Telcontar · 08-09-2005, 12:57 AM

Woe is me, for I leave the country (and most importantly for this thread, my PC) in two days. I shall try to get a new backwards quote up before I go, just to keep you busy for awhile...

Estelyn Telcontar · 08-10-2005, 08:59 AM

Meanwhile, back at the ranch...

Try this one!

Quote:

When you have sung part of the song, you wouldn't be standing there where Autumn had preceded Summer.

HerenIstarion · 08-16-2005, 12:51 AM

Frodo sat silent and motionless. Fear seemed to stretch out a vast hand, like a dark cloud rising in the East and looming up to engulf him. ‘This ring!’ he stammered. ‘How, how on earth did it come to me?’
‘Ah!’ said Gandalf. ‘That is a very long story. The beginnings lie back in the Black Years, which only the lore-masters now remember. If I were to tell you all that tale, we should still be sitting here when Spring had passed into Winter.

Estelyn Telcontar · 08-20-2005, 02:46 AM

You got it right, HI! Your turn to turn...

HerenIstarion · 08-20-2005, 04:02 AM

Ok, than:

Quote:

They were orderly than! They? She did not want it to be ‘they’, for it was bliss to be left alone

HerenIstarion · 12-10-2005, 03:18 AM

'twas said west of Misty Mountains east of Lonely Mountain. In Mirkwood, to be precise...

Estelyn Telcontar · 12-10-2005, 03:43 AM

Thanks for the clue - that definitely helped narrow the search down! Here's what Bilbo said to himself after using Sting to free himself from the spider's web in The Hobbit:

Quote:

What a mess we are in now! We! I only wish it was we: it is horrible being all alone.

HerenIstarion · 12-11-2005, 02:41 AM

Right you are, M'am

Evisse the Blue · 10-22-2006, 05:48 AM

I'm reviving this cause it used to be much fun.

Sorry for the sloppiness of this one:

"Before enlightened beings arrived in the meadows full of dwellings and flew towards bright pastures, we crept towards them. What tunnels would we bravely burrow into, what danger in troubled skies or for homeless sophisticated creatures during the hours of daylight, if the Easterners were awake or had all come back to life?"

Galadriel55 · 11-22-2010, 06:10 PM

Quote:

But when dark things come from the houseless hills, or creep from sunless woods, they fly from us. What roads would any dare to tread, what safety could there be in quiet lands, or in the homes of simple men at night, if the Dunedain were asleep, or were all gone into the grave?

The counsil of Elrond
Aragorn, speaking to the council in general, but mostly to Boromir.

Evisse the Blue · 01-16-2011, 07:11 AM

Yep, well done and take it away!
This used to be fun game : )

Galadriel55 · 01-16-2011, 09:54 AM

"I know my safety, Denethor. Those giants will stand in the middle of a city and keep silent about the negative side of chairs, and great laziness of their children, grandchildren, and great-grand children, or brothers and sisters, if I discourage the with interruptions."
Some of these words may be a bit vague, but I think it's not that hard.

LadyBrooke · 01-16-2011, 10:20 AM

You do not know your danger, Theoden. These hobbits will sit on the edge of ruin and discuss the pleasures of the table, or the small doings of their fathers, grandfathers, and great-grandfathers, and remoter cousins to the ninth degree, if you encourage them with undue patience.

Gandalf to Theoden near the ruins of Orthanc when Merry starts on about smoking.

Galadriel55 · 01-16-2011, 10:34 AM

Thread is yours, Brooke!

LadyBrooke · 01-16-2011, 11:30 AM

"All and all! That he found forward he guessed a gain; needed display in the water it has disproved. Stop us that worship his title, worship him in the past, but praise our exit from the fields of the orcs! Stop the horses freezing!"

I'm not sure that's right. If anybody needs a hint say so.

Evisse the Blue · 01-16-2011, 11:58 AM

This has to be Feanor's memorable lines:

'None and none! What I have left behind I count now no loss; needless baggage on the road it proved! Let those that cursed my name curse me still, and whine their way back to the cages of the Valar. Let the ships burn!'

Was he a cool fellow or what?

LadyBrooke · 01-16-2011, 08:09 PM

Correct Evisse!

And yes Feanor is a very cool elf - along with Maglor, Matimo, and Fingon. They're the only Noldor I really like in the books.

Evisse the Blue · 01-17-2011, 02:02 PM

Let's see:

'Out of joy we need not stay; and still out of hope.

(as a personal aside, one of my favourite quotes, once unscrambled

)

Galadriel55 · 04-24-2011, 08:55 PM

Evise, I am really confused about this quote. It sounds like "Into sorrow [someone] must enter; and into despair." It has a familiar ring to it, but I just can't pinpoint it. Feanor says a line of similar comtext when he urges the Noldor to leave Aman, but it has a totally different structure.

A clue, perhaps?

HerenIstarion · 04-25-2011, 05:50 AM

Sounds like Aragorn on his deathbed consoling Arwen:

Quote:

But I say to you, King of the Numenoreans, not till now have I understood the tale of your people and their fall. As wicked fools I scorned them, but I pity them at last. For if this is indeed, as the Eldar say, the gift of the One to Men, it is bitter to receive.

"So it seems," he said. "But let us not be overthrown at the final test, who of old renounced the Shadow and the Ring. In sorrow we must go, but not in despair. Behold! we are not bound for ever to the circles of the world, and beyond them is more than memory, Farewell!"

LadyBrooke · 06-23-2011, 08:39 PM

Since it's been a while, I hope nobody minds if I do one:

Earlier they heard me, I nice tall human! They did drink me and took my flesh and blood buried in the ground....they buried me feet upwards in the ground for a month or three.

I'm not sure if that's scarier then the original quote or not....

Galadriel55 · 06-24-2011, 10:03 AM

"Now we see you, you nasty little creature! We will eat you and leave your bones and skin hanging on a tree. Ugh! he's got a sting has he? Well, we'll get him all the same, and then we'll hang him head downwards for a day or two."

~Spiders to Bilbo in Mirkwood

It was scarier before I guessed it.

LadyBrooke · 06-24-2011, 12:08 PM

Correct!

I think the whole drank my blood part was scary....and it was in the past tense, so how's he telling us this.

Galadriel55 · 06-24-2011, 12:39 PM

Here's something relatively easy:

"Your servant is healthy and in good shape. He should go on walking until daybreak. He doesn't need a break."

Narnangol · 08-07-2011, 05:31 PM

"My master is sick and wounded. He can't go on riding after nightfall. He needs rest."

Sam after the episode with the trolls, when the Hobbits and Aragorn meet Glorfindel.

Galadriel55 · 08-07-2011, 06:39 PM

Yup! Your turn!

08-29-2011, 02:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joy

I agree Watcher. Though I must say this sounds like Denethor before he decides to kill himself and Faramir.

I also think so.

Nerwen · 09-03-2011, 04:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bella10388

I also think so.

I agree with you.

04-22-2005, 07:19 PM	#321
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	The Sound of Silence ... Hello? Is there anybody there? __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

04-23-2005, 01:17 AM	#322
Estelyn Telcontar Princess of Skwerlz Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: where the Sea is eastwards (WtR: 6060 miles) Posts: 7,500	I am, but as I haven't the time to work this out and search for it, I keep looking in, in hopes that someone else does! __________________ 'Mercy!' cried Gandalf. 'If the giving of information is to be the cure of your inquisitiveness, I shall spend all the rest of my days in answering you. What more do you want to know?' 'The whole history of Middle-earth...'

05-03-2005, 05:50 PM	#323
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	A hint ... It is a snippet of a conversation between Hobbits. __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

05-04-2005, 02:29 AM	#325
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	At last! That's the one Esty. Well done and over to you. __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

06-02-2005, 01:41 AM	#328
Estelyn Telcontar Princess of Skwerlz Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: where the Sea is eastwards (WtR: 6060 miles) Posts: 7,500	Why thank you, kind sir! I am pleased both with my cunning idea and with the fact that you solved the riddle! Carry on - I'm afraid I'll have to sit this one out, though, as I'll be away from my home PC for a few weeks... __________________ 'Mercy!' cried Gandalf. 'If the giving of information is to be the cure of your inquisitiveness, I shall spend all the rest of my days in answering you. What more do you want to know?' 'The whole history of Middle-earth...'

08-08-2005, 05:00 AM	#330
HerenIstarion Deadnight Chanter Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 4,244	It's been dormant... Well, I surmise it's a high time for a hint The quote in my previous was uttered by a plumpier-than-average dwarf. __________________ Egroeg Ihkhsal - Would you believe in the love at first sight? - Yes I'm certain that it happens all the time!

08-09-2005, 12:21 AM	#332
HerenIstarion Deadnight Chanter Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 4,244	Yes, of course. Pray proceed __________________ Egroeg Ihkhsal - Would you believe in the love at first sight? - Yes I'm certain that it happens all the time!

08-09-2005, 12:57 AM	#333
Estelyn Telcontar Princess of Skwerlz Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: where the Sea is eastwards (WtR: 6060 miles) Posts: 7,500	Woe is me, for I leave the country (and most importantly for this thread, my PC) in two days. I shall try to get a new backwards quote up before I go, just to keep you busy for awhile... __________________ 'Mercy!' cried Gandalf. 'If the giving of information is to be the cure of your inquisitiveness, I shall spend all the rest of my days in answering you. What more do you want to know?' 'The whole history of Middle-earth...'

08-16-2005, 12:51 AM	#335
HerenIstarion Deadnight Chanter Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 4,244	found it, it's in Rivendell Frodo sat silent and motionless. Fear seemed to stretch out a vast hand, like a dark cloud rising in the East and looming up to engulf him. ‘This ring!’ he stammered. ‘How, how on earth did it come to me?’ ‘Ah!’ said Gandalf. ‘That is a very long story. The beginnings lie back in the Black Years, which only the lore-masters now remember. If I were to tell you all that tale, we should still be sitting here when Spring had passed into Winter. __________________ Egroeg Ihkhsal - Would you believe in the love at first sight? - Yes I'm certain that it happens all the time!

08-20-2005, 02:46 AM	#336
Estelyn Telcontar Princess of Skwerlz Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: where the Sea is eastwards (WtR: 6060 miles) Posts: 7,500	You got it right, HI! Your turn to turn... __________________ 'Mercy!' cried Gandalf. 'If the giving of information is to be the cure of your inquisitiveness, I shall spend all the rest of my days in answering you. What more do you want to know?' 'The whole history of Middle-earth...'

12-10-2005, 03:18 AM	#338
HerenIstarion Deadnight Chanter Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 4,244	hinting time... 'twas said west of Misty Mountains east of Lonely Mountain. In Mirkwood, to be precise... __________________ Egroeg Ihkhsal - Would you believe in the love at first sight? - Yes I'm certain that it happens all the time!

12-11-2005, 02:41 AM	#340
HerenIstarion Deadnight Chanter Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 4,244	Right you are, M'am __________________ Egroeg Ihkhsal - Would you believe in the love at first sight? - Yes I'm certain that it happens all the time!

10-22-2006, 05:48 AM	#341
Evisse the Blue Brightness of a Blade Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: wherever I may roam Posts: 2,685	I'm reviving this cause it used to be much fun. Sorry for the sloppiness of this one: "Before enlightened beings arrived in the meadows full of dwellings and flew towards bright pastures, we crept towards them. What tunnels would we bravely burrow into, what danger in troubled skies or for homeless sophisticated creatures during the hours of daylight, if the Easterners were awake or had all come back to life?" __________________ And no one was ill, and everyone was pleased, except those who had to mow the grass.

01-16-2011, 07:11 AM	#343
Evisse the Blue Brightness of a Blade Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: wherever I may roam Posts: 2,685	Yep, well done and take it away! This used to be fun game : ) __________________ And no one was ill, and everyone was pleased, except those who had to mow the grass.

01-16-2011, 09:54 AM	#344
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,377	"I know my safety, Denethor. Those giants will stand in the middle of a city and keep silent about the negative side of chairs, and great laziness of their children, grandchildren, and great-grand children, or brothers and sisters, if I discourage the with interruptions." Some of these words may be a bit vague, but I think it's not that hard. __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

01-16-2011, 10:20 AM	#345
LadyBrooke Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: The modern day version of Edoras: horses, wind, rolling plains =) Posts: 507	You do not know your danger, Theoden. These hobbits will sit on the edge of ruin and discuss the pleasures of the table, or the small doings of their fathers, grandfathers, and great-grandfathers, and remoter cousins to the ninth degree, if you encourage them with undue patience. Gandalf to Theoden near the ruins of Orthanc when Merry starts on about smoking. __________________ Busy, Busy, Busy...hoping for more free time soon.

01-16-2011, 10:34 AM	#346
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,377	Thread is yours, Brooke! __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

01-16-2011, 11:30 AM	#347
LadyBrooke Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: The modern day version of Edoras: horses, wind, rolling plains =) Posts: 507	"All and all! That he found forward he guessed a gain; needed display in the water it has disproved. Stop us that worship his title, worship him in the past, but praise our exit from the fields of the orcs! Stop the horses freezing!" I'm not sure that's right. If anybody needs a hint say so. __________________ Busy, Busy, Busy...hoping for more free time soon.

01-16-2011, 11:58 AM	#348
Evisse the Blue Brightness of a Blade Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: wherever I may roam Posts: 2,685	:d This has to be Feanor's memorable lines: 'None and none! What I have left behind I count now no loss; needless baggage on the road it proved! Let those that cursed my name curse me still, and whine their way back to the cages of the Valar. Let the ships burn!' Was he a cool fellow or what? __________________ And no one was ill, and everyone was pleased, except those who had to mow the grass.

01-16-2011, 08:09 PM	#349
LadyBrooke Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: The modern day version of Edoras: horses, wind, rolling plains =) Posts: 507	Correct Evisse! And yes Feanor is a very cool elf - along with Maglor, Matimo, and Fingon. They're the only Noldor I really like in the books. __________________ Busy, Busy, Busy...hoping for more free time soon.

01-17-2011, 02:02 PM	#350
Evisse the Blue Brightness of a Blade Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: wherever I may roam Posts: 2,685	Let's see: 'Out of joy we need not stay; and still out of hope. (as a personal aside, one of my favourite quotes, once unscrambled ) __________________ And no one was ill, and everyone was pleased, except those who had to mow the grass.

04-24-2011, 08:55 PM	#351
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,377	Evise, I am really confused about this quote. It sounds like "Into sorrow [someone] must enter; and into despair." It has a familiar ring to it, but I just can't pinpoint it. Feanor says a line of similar comtext when he urges the Noldor to leave Aman, but it has a totally different structure. A clue, perhaps? __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera Last edited by mormegil; 04-24-2011 at 09:11 PM.

06-23-2011, 08:39 PM	#353
LadyBrooke Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: The modern day version of Edoras: horses, wind, rolling plains =) Posts: 507	Since it's been a while, I hope nobody minds if I do one: Earlier they heard me, I nice tall human! They did drink me and took my flesh and blood buried in the ground....they buried me feet upwards in the ground for a month or three. I'm not sure if that's scarier then the original quote or not.... __________________ Busy, Busy, Busy...hoping for more free time soon.

06-24-2011, 10:03 AM	#354
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,377	"Now we see you, you nasty little creature! We will eat you and leave your bones and skin hanging on a tree. Ugh! he's got a sting has he? Well, we'll get him all the same, and then we'll hang him head downwards for a day or two." ~Spiders to Bilbo in Mirkwood It was scarier before I guessed it. __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

06-24-2011, 12:08 PM	#355
LadyBrooke Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: The modern day version of Edoras: horses, wind, rolling plains =) Posts: 507	Correct! I think the whole drank my blood part was scary....and it was in the past tense, so how's he telling us this. __________________ Busy, Busy, Busy...hoping for more free time soon.

06-24-2011, 12:39 PM	#356
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,377	Here's something relatively easy: "Your servant is healthy and in good shape. He should go on walking until daybreak. He doesn't need a break." __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

08-07-2011, 05:31 PM	#357
Narnangol Animated Skeleton Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Hall of Fire Posts: 42	"My master is sick and wounded. He can't go on riding after nightfall. He needs rest." Sam after the episode with the trolls, when the Hobbits and Aragorn meet Glorfindel.

08-07-2011, 06:39 PM	#358
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,377	Yup! Your turn! __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera