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I found another who perished at sea, and who happened to have a wife.
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Firiel and Arvedui or Elwing and Earendil.
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May I steal this style for my next few riddles?
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While I wait for you to answer my question, here is one for you
A brave fighter was he He followed orders faithfully It almost cost him his life But he was saved, fortunately A fair maiden was she Though no less noble than he She remained true till the end A terrible foe fell at her hand Forgotten land, fair and free Lost because of envy and greed A land of beauty, taken in the flood That's the western part of my blood In the North, there dwelt fighters at heart Who were both fierce and proud In the great victory they played their part That's the northern part of my blood
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He is Faramir and she is Eowyn. What I can't figure out is who is the speaker. Elboron, their child?
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Yes, Elboron.
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Somehow, I don't think you really mean it, so I won't.
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Just faintly baffled, is all. I originally came up with the style as a way to let the women of Middle-earth finally get a word in edgeways (Tolkien's women are brilliant characters, but they don't get a lot of page time), but that's purely my own little hobby; I didn't expect the style itself to be at all popular. By all means, go for it.
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Was flipping though text looking for ideas and nearly started another reread. Whoops. Gotta be careful when approaching Tolkien's texts.
![]() Taken hostage from my home Then taken to the South, I don't excel, I do not roam, And silence on my mouth. But comes the time to test my worth, To right a dreadful wrong, Because I am returning North And sing a different song: An ancient song of fright, and flame, Or terror, enemies, and stir. To that old song can you give name? And to your humble minister?
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Just some musings
There are plenty of character taken hostage: Pippin, Merry, Earendil, Turin, even Frodo.
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Bilbo, with the song being 'The Road Goes Ever On'.?
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Not Bilbo. How is he "returning North", and in what Southern place has he been? I can see why some lines might suggest Bilbo, but he doesn't fit the entire riddle.
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The Havens? Aren't they to the north of Rivendell?
But if you mean returning, then maybe Sam, Pippin and Merry, returning to the Shire?
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Well, the answer is neither Bilbo, nor Sam, Pippin, or Merry.
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Maedhros?
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Not Maedhros.
If you tell me why you think this is the answer, I will point out what thinking is correct and what is not.
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I am thinking of people who were taken hostages.
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As I already told you, don't. It will be a dead end. Pick at other lines instead.
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Yeah, well, the other lines don't work either, or at least Googling them doesn't. Although the first line of second stanza alludes to Faramir. Also, if no hostages are involved in the riddle, why did you write the line that says they are?
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... it's not the Horn of Gondor, is it? Taken from its origin in Rhun to Gondor in the south, then eventually returning north (Rivendell and points south) and being blown by Boromir below Amon Hen.
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OH NO WAIT
"Awake! Awake! Fear, fire, foes! Awake!" You are the Horn of the Mark, taken from Scatha's hoard in defiance of the dwarves, borne South to the Riddermark, gifted to Merry, and ultimately sounding the Horn-call of Buckland. "Awake!" hS |
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2. Interesting thought about Faramir, but no. That line is not as specific. 3. I wrote "taken hostage from my home". I also told you that going through a list of people taken hostage will not get you anywhere. Both are true statements. If you want a hint to get you nearer the right answer, stop focusing on hostages. Of course, you don't have to take the hint, but then you might be going in circles for a long time. *shrug* Edit: crossed with Huey x2
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*drumroll*
Absolutely correct!
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Silvertine/Celebdil?
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Well, 1 up sounds like a peak, hence Silver+peak = Silvertine.
And in addition, 1 across = Gandalf crossing the bridge, 1 down = Balrog falling, 2 down = he pulled Gandalf with him, and they ended up on Silvertine.
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All of the numbers are describing the same kind of thing. hS |
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Well, the only other answers that come to mind and are connected to Silver are Idril and Boromir's horn. In the 1st case, 1 down could refer to Morleg, and in the second case to Boromir himself.
Nonetheless, Silvertine was so perfect, and the fact it is not right....well.... ![]()
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But who is Silver? hS |
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Celebrimbor. A certain source mentions that he lived in Gondolin for a time.
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I wonder if the directions refer to instructions on a family tree.
If we start with Idril as the first Silver: 1 up are her parents, but as Elenwe's other relations are unknown we are left with Turgon. 1 across is either Fingon or Aredhel. 1 down would be their respective children: Gil-Galad and Maeglin. But how does 2 down fit it, I am not sure. I thought this would be one of those related-by-multiple-lines things where someone is both a cousin and a cousin once/twice removed, but that doesn't seem to work here. If Idril is the last Silver, the pathway would still point to a cousin, and the logic still breaks down. Well, it was worth a try.
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Or we can go that rode.
Idril Two down becomes two up: Turgon > Fingolfin One across becomes Finarfin or Feanor and one down becomes one up, which is Finwe.....
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I also didn't write '= 2 down'. I wrote '== 2 down', which has a completely different meaning. ![]() hS |
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'==' means equal to, according to google
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Wait, I think I have it. Second 'silver' is either Earendil or Elrond/Elros. Hear out my reasoning.
1 up = Turgon 1 across = Elenwe, sitting across from Turgon. 1 down = Idril then we have 2 down, which is either 2 down from Elenwe, which is Earendil, or 2 down from Idril, which is Elrond/Elros.
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![]() Ohhhhh... I just had an idea about the ==. ![]()
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