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Firefoot · 02-16-2005, 02:45 PM

Mentioned in The Hobbit?

Tuor of Gondolin · 02-16-2005, 07:03 PM

Related to Bilbo's wine holdings?

Celegorm · 02-17-2005, 02:43 PM

Third Age? Yes
Living? No
Object? Yes
Building? No
Weapon? No
A place? No
Event? No
Undead? No
did it come into contact with anyone who was in the fellowship?
Not realy mentioned, but I would guess so.
gift? Yes+No
does it have a proper name? No
West of the Misty Mountains? Yes
Owned by a Man? No
made before third age? Possible, but rather not.
Owned by anyone? Yes
Clothing? No
Jewelry of some type? No
Owned by a Hobbit? Yes
An article of clothing? No
Owned by an elf? No
Belong to Bilbo? Yes
Bilbo's map of Erebor? No
acquired after Bilbos first adventure? No
Was it gotten from Smaug's accumulated wealth? No
Was it the trolls' loot? No
Was it acquired between Rivendell (including in Rivendell) and entering
Mirkwood? No
Owned by anyone before Bilbo? Not mentioned, I would guess so.
Owned by anyone after Bilbo? Yes
Was it one of Bilbo's leaving gifts? Kind of that, but not mentioned as a gift.
If so, the silver spoons that he pointedly left for Lobelia Sackville-Baggins? No
Was it one of the keepsakes that Bilbo left as jokey presents for his family when he left Bag end? No
Acquired on his journey? No
Was it taken to Frodo's house in Crickhollow? Possible, but rather not.
Owned by Frodo as well? Yes
His feather beds? No
Mentioned in The Hobbit? Yes
Related to Bilbo's wine holdings? No

**The Saucepan Man** · 02-17-2005, 02:48 PM

The door to Bag End?

Celegorm · 02-17-2005, 03:17 PM

The door to Bag End? Nope

Gil-Galad · 02-17-2005, 03:18 PM

Did Frodo aqquire it after Bilbo left?

Firefoot · 02-17-2005, 03:25 PM

A piece of furniture?

Celegorm · 02-17-2005, 03:33 PM

Did Frodo aqquire it after Bilbo left? Hm, how should Bilbo own it then? NO!
A piece of furniture? Yes!

Lindolirian · 02-17-2005, 03:37 PM

Bilbo's easy chair he always wished he was in? Listening to his tea pot whistle... not for the last time!

Celegorm · 02-17-2005, 03:43 PM

Bilbo's easy chair he always wished he was in? Listening to his tea pot whistle... not for the last time! No

Firefoot · 02-17-2005, 05:04 PM

The drawing-room couch where Bilbo revived after fainting during the Unexpected Party?

Nilpaurion Felagund · 02-17-2005, 10:34 PM

The stone head of the king in the crossroads?

Wrong puzzle, stupid head!

Oh. Ignore title statement, then.

Can it fit in a bag?

Celegorm · 02-18-2005, 06:08 AM

The drawing-room couch where Bilbo revived after fainting during the Unexpected Party?No
Can it fit in a bag? That depends on the size of the bag... but more yes then no.

Firefoot · 02-18-2005, 06:12 AM

Is its purpose for sitting on (e.g. couch, chair, etc)?

**The Saucepan Man** · 02-18-2005, 07:26 AM

Hmm, if it is a piece of furniture, wouldn't it have been more likely than not to have been moved to Crickhollow?

Is it a fixture or fitting of Bag End?

If so, is it the hearth?

EDIT: Aha! Or the mantlepiece on which the Dwarves' letter was left?

(Sorry - very naughty to have two bites at the cherry, but I couldn't resist.)

Celegorm · 02-18-2005, 07:48 AM

Is its purpose for sitting on (e.g. couch, chair, etc)? No

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Saucepan Man

Hmm, if it is a piece of furniture, wouldn't it have been more likely than not to have been moved to Crickhollow? Yes

Is it a fixture or fitting of Bag End? Lest's say, it has a fix place.

If so, is it the hearth? No

EDIT: Aha! Or the mantlepiece on which the Dwarves' letter was left? No

(Sorry - very naughty to have two bites at the cherry, but I couldn't resist.)

Hm, four questions... bad boy...

**The Saucepan Man** · 02-18-2005, 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Celegorm

Hm, four questions... bad boy...

I'd rather describe them as one comment, one question and two related guesses.

But I'm finding these hard to reconcile:

Quote:

Was it taken to Frodo's house in Crickhollow? Possible, but rather not.

A piece of furniture? Yes!

Hmm, if it is a piece of furniture, wouldn't it have been more likely than not to have been moved to Crickhollow? Yes

Evisse the Blue · 02-18-2005, 08:29 AM

The hanger?

Firefoot · 02-18-2005, 03:07 PM

The doorbell (is that furniture?)?

Found inside the parlor?

Celegorm · 02-18-2005, 03:57 PM

The hanger? No
The doorbell (is that furniture?)? No (?ask the Pan-Man...)
Found inside the parlor? Yes

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Saucepan Man

But I'm finding these hard to reconcile:
Hmm, if it is a piece of furniture, wouldn't it have been more likely than not to have been moved to Crickhollow? Yes

Sorry, to confuse you. But what I meant is, there are a lot of things, he may have taken with him, but Frodo didn't left Bagend absolutly blank. It's not said, if he had taken this thing with him.

Firefoot · 02-18-2005, 04:22 PM

The footstool?

Celegorm · 02-18-2005, 04:31 PM

The footstool? Nope

Eruanna · 02-18-2005, 04:43 PM

The clock on the mantlepiece?

Firefoot · 02-18-2005, 04:48 PM

The table?

Running out of furniture, methinks.

Celegorm · 02-18-2005, 04:53 PM

The clock on the mantlepiece? No
The table? Which one? - No, it's not a table

Firefoot · 02-18-2005, 05:05 PM

Sorry, it seemed to me after skimming the chapter several times that there was only one table in the parlor.

The poker and shovel for the fireplace?

Celegorm · 02-19-2005, 04:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Firefoot

Sorry, it seemed to me after skimming the chapter several times that there was only one table in the parlor.

'...and before he could say knife they had whisked the trays and a couple of small tables into the parlour and set out everything afresh.'

The poker and shovel for the fireplace? No, but close...

Firefoot · 02-19-2005, 07:03 AM

I stand corrected.

The fender Bilbo accidentally sat on?

Mithalwen · 02-19-2005, 12:48 PM

The fire tongs that Gandalf uses to retrieve the ring from the fire at Bag End?

Celegorm · 02-20-2005, 12:58 PM

The Fender is right!

Go on Firefoot.

Firefoot · 02-20-2005, 02:31 PM

Thanks.

Start guessing!

Vinyacoriel · 02-20-2005, 02:53 PM

Third Age?

Celegorm · 02-20-2005, 03:16 PM

Living?

(There was still that lamp... NO, I'm not obsessed by light-things...

)

Gil-Galad · 02-20-2005, 04:49 PM

First AGe?

Tuor of Gondolin · 02-20-2005, 05:52 PM

North of Rohan?

Evisse the Blue · 02-21-2005, 05:55 AM

Congrats, Firefoot! And congrats, Celegorm for thinking of such a tough one!

Event?

Firefoot · 02-21-2005, 11:26 AM

Third Age? Yes
Living? No
First AGe? No
North of Rohan? No
Event? No

Gil-Galad · 02-21-2005, 11:28 AM

Weapon?

Firefoot · 02-21-2005, 11:30 AM

Third Age? Yes
Living? No
First AGe? No
North of Rohan? No
Event? No

Weapon? Yes

Gil-Galad · 02-21-2005, 11:32 AM

Elven-Made?

02-16-2005, 07:03 PM	#3322
Tuor of Gondolin Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Pennsylvania, WtR, passed Sarn Gebir: Above the rapids (1239 miles) BtR, passed Black Rider Stopping Place (31 miles) Posts: 1,548	Related to Bilbo's wine holdings? __________________ Aure Entuluva!

02-17-2005, 02:43 PM	#3323
Celegorm Wight Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Halls of Mandos Posts: 191	Third Age? Yes Living? No Object? Yes Building? No Weapon? No A place? No Event? No Undead? No did it come into contact with anyone who was in the fellowship? Not realy mentioned, but I would guess so. gift? Yes+No does it have a proper name? No West of the Misty Mountains? Yes Owned by a Man? No made before third age? Possible, but rather not. Owned by anyone? Yes Clothing? No Jewelry of some type? No Owned by a Hobbit? Yes An article of clothing? No Owned by an elf? No Belong to Bilbo? Yes Bilbo's map of Erebor? No acquired after Bilbos first adventure? No Was it gotten from Smaug's accumulated wealth? No Was it the trolls' loot? No Was it acquired between Rivendell (including in Rivendell) and entering Mirkwood? No Owned by anyone before Bilbo? Not mentioned, I would guess so. Owned by anyone after Bilbo? Yes Was it one of Bilbo's leaving gifts? Kind of that, but not mentioned as a gift. If so, the silver spoons that he pointedly left for Lobelia Sackville-Baggins? No Was it one of the keepsakes that Bilbo left as jokey presents for his family when he left Bag end? No Acquired on his journey? No Was it taken to Frodo's house in Crickhollow? Possible, but rather not. Owned by Frodo as well? Yes His feather beds? No Mentioned in The Hobbit? Yes Related to Bilbo's wine holdings? No __________________ Namárië! Celegorm ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

02-17-2005, 02:48 PM	#3324
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	Tough one this ... The door to Bag End? __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

02-17-2005, 03:17 PM	#3325
Celegorm Wight Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Halls of Mandos Posts: 191	The door to Bag End? Nope __________________ Namárië! Celegorm ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

02-17-2005, 03:18 PM	#3326
Gil-Galad Psyche of Prince Immortal Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Above a Parapet Obvious exits are: North, South, and Dennis Posts: 4,734	Did Frodo aqquire it after Bilbo left? __________________ Love doesn't blow up and get killed.

02-16-2005, 02:45 PM	#3321
Firefoot Illusionary Holbytla Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 7,547	Mentioned in The Hobbit?

02-17-2005, 03:25 PM	#3327
Firefoot Illusionary Holbytla Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 7,547	A piece of furniture?

02-17-2005, 03:33 PM	#3328
Celegorm Wight Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Halls of Mandos Posts: 191	Did Frodo aqquire it after Bilbo left? Hm, how should Bilbo own it then? NO! A piece of furniture? Yes! __________________ Namárië! Celegorm ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

02-17-2005, 03:37 PM	#3329
Lindolirian World's Tallest Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Where the view is long Posts: 2,117	Bilbo's easy chair he always wished he was in? Listening to his tea pot whistle... not for the last time! __________________ 'They say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end."

02-17-2005, 03:43 PM	#3330
Celegorm Wight Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Halls of Mandos Posts: 191	getting closer... Bilbo's easy chair he always wished he was in? Listening to his tea pot whistle... not for the last time! No __________________ Namárië! Celegorm ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

02-17-2005, 05:04 PM	#3331
Firefoot Illusionary Holbytla Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 7,547	The drawing-room couch where Bilbo revived after fainting during the Unexpected Party?

02-17-2005, 10:34 PM	#3332
Nilpaurion Felagund Scion of The Faithful Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The brink, where hope and despair are akin. [The Philippines] Posts: 5,312	I think I got it. The stone head of the king in the crossroads? Wrong puzzle, stupid head! Oh. Ignore title statement, then. Can it fit in a bag? __________________ フェンリス鴨 (Fenrisu Kamo) The plot, cut, defeated. I intend to copy this sig forever - so far so good...

02-18-2005, 06:08 AM	#3333
Celegorm Wight Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Halls of Mandos Posts: 191	The drawing-room couch where Bilbo revived after fainting during the Unexpected Party?No Can it fit in a bag? That depends on the size of the bag... but more yes then no. __________________ Namárië! Celegorm ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

02-18-2005, 06:12 AM	#3334
Firefoot Illusionary Holbytla Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 7,547	Is its purpose for sitting on (e.g. couch, chair, etc)?

02-18-2005, 07:26 AM	#3335
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	Hmm, if it is a piece of furniture, wouldn't it have been more likely than not to have been moved to Crickhollow? Is it a fixture or fitting of Bag End? If so, is it the hearth? EDIT: Aha! Or the mantlepiece on which the Dwarves' letter was left? (Sorry - very naughty to have two bites at the cherry, but I couldn't resist.) __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

02-18-2005, 08:29 AM	#3338
Evisse the Blue Brightness of a Blade Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: wherever I may roam Posts: 2,685	The hanger? __________________ And no one was ill, and everyone was pleased, except those who had to mow the grass.

02-18-2005, 03:07 PM	#3339
Firefoot Illusionary Holbytla Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 7,547	The doorbell (is that furniture?)? Found inside the parlor?

02-18-2005, 04:22 PM	#3341
Firefoot Illusionary Holbytla Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 7,547	The footstool?

02-18-2005, 04:31 PM	#3342
Celegorm Wight Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Halls of Mandos Posts: 191	The footstool? Nope __________________ Namárië! Celegorm ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

02-18-2005, 04:43 PM	#3343
Eruanna Memento Mori Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Past The Point Of No Return Posts: 1,117	The clock on the mantlepiece? __________________ "Remember, hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies."

02-18-2005, 04:48 PM	#3344
Firefoot Illusionary Holbytla Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 7,547	The table? Running out of furniture, methinks.

02-18-2005, 04:53 PM	#3345
Celegorm Wight Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Halls of Mandos Posts: 191	The clock on the mantlepiece? No The table? Which one? - No, it's not a table __________________ Namárië! Celegorm ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

02-18-2005, 05:05 PM	#3346
Firefoot Illusionary Holbytla Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 7,547	Sorry, it seemed to me after skimming the chapter several times that there was only one table in the parlor. The poker and shovel for the fireplace?

02-19-2005, 07:03 AM	#3348
Firefoot Illusionary Holbytla Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 7,547	I stand corrected. The fender Bilbo accidentally sat on?

02-19-2005, 12:48 PM	#3349
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,458	The fire tongs that Gandalf uses to retrieve the ring from the fire at Bag End? __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

02-20-2005, 12:58 PM	#3350
Celegorm Wight Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Halls of Mandos Posts: 191	Finally ... Firefoot got it... The Fender is right! Go on Firefoot. __________________ Namárië! Celegorm ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

02-20-2005, 02:31 PM	#3351
Firefoot Illusionary Holbytla Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 7,547	Finally... I was running out of ideas... Thanks. Start guessing!

02-20-2005, 02:53 PM	#3352
Vinyacoriel Haunting Spirit Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 59	Third Age? __________________ So there's this totally awsome Ring and there's some lord of it who i think isn't Frodo, but hey, it's a trillogy of tales so rock on!!!

02-20-2005, 03:16 PM	#3353
Celegorm Wight Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Halls of Mandos Posts: 191	Living? (There was still that lamp... NO, I'm not obsessed by light-things... ) __________________ Namárië! Celegorm ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

02-20-2005, 04:49 PM	#3354
Gil-Galad Psyche of Prince Immortal Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Above a Parapet Obvious exits are: North, South, and Dennis Posts: 4,734	First AGe? __________________ Love doesn't blow up and get killed.

02-20-2005, 05:52 PM	#3355
Tuor of Gondolin Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Pennsylvania, WtR, passed Sarn Gebir: Above the rapids (1239 miles) BtR, passed Black Rider Stopping Place (31 miles) Posts: 1,548	North of Rohan? __________________ Aure Entuluva!

02-21-2005, 05:55 AM	#3356
Evisse the Blue Brightness of a Blade Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: wherever I may roam Posts: 2,685	Congrats, Firefoot! And congrats, Celegorm for thinking of such a tough one! Event? __________________ And no one was ill, and everyone was pleased, except those who had to mow the grass.

02-21-2005, 11:26 AM	#3357
Firefoot Illusionary Holbytla Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 7,547	Thanks, Evisse. Third Age? Yes Living? No First AGe? No North of Rohan? No Event? No

02-21-2005, 11:28 AM	#3358
Gil-Galad Psyche of Prince Immortal Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Above a Parapet Obvious exits are: North, South, and Dennis Posts: 4,734	Weapon? __________________ Love doesn't blow up and get killed.

02-21-2005, 11:30 AM	#3359
Firefoot Illusionary Holbytla Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 7,547	Third Age? Yes Living? No First AGe? No North of Rohan? No Event? No Weapon? Yes