In the Shadow of the Star: Discussion Thread (Part 1) - Page 8 - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

piosenniel · 03-07-2003, 12:33 PM

So, shall I put back my original post?

[ March 07, 2003: Message edited by: piosenniel ]

mark12_30 · 03-07-2003, 12:36 PM

(Helen votes) : yes

Child of the 7th Age · 03-07-2003, 12:48 PM

This is too funny.......Pio gutting the Vala and having to hightail it out of town.

No, I draw the line there! You have to rescue your husband. Anyways, I just wrote half a post where I responded to the news about the message regarding Mithadan and Hob's wild ride.....as a prelue to talking with Lorien. I clicked the edit button and your post was missing. I thought I was hallucinating!!

OK, since everybody is being so nice and polite, I'll be the one to crack the whip here!!! Here are Cami's marching instructions.

1. I like the "mean" Pio better. Please take out the one where you're being nice to Lorien, and put in the one where you throw him out on his keester. Put it in the same slot. My post is also in that same slot so make sure not to delete it. I can tweek my post slightly to accomodate the following:

1. throwing a blanket and a few scraps of food to Lorien and telling him to go to the abandoned burrows until/if Pio calms down.

2. writing a letter to Frodo about Cami's guilt that she's dragged her friends into this mess.

Helen, you will still get a letter, just slightly modified.

3. Neither Cami or Pio will leave the Inn. They can each slam the door and go sulk in different directions.

4. Pio, put back your last post about rescuing Mithadan. Put it before mine, so mine will make sense.

I will edit my subsequent post slightly so that Cami goes trooping out to the deserted burrow on the Bywater pool and brings Lorien some brunch.

Hehe, I wonder how Mith will respond to his wife's crude treatment of the Vala?

Hope that is ok! If there are any more glitches I've missed, just stick a note here.

sharon

piosenniel · 03-07-2003, 01:15 PM

Done - continue on

mark12_30 · 03-07-2003, 01:56 PM

Pio: Hurray! I like it. Especially the way you added that extra line that wove the twins (defensively but calmly)into your distance from Lorien-- it gives the impression that motherhood might actually calm Pio down somewhat.

piosenniel · 03-07-2003, 01:58 PM

Be wary of making that assumption. It is not true.

mark12_30 · 03-07-2003, 02:00 PM

Hee hee hee. Al right.

Sam, Miz Rose and Gamgee kids: who's going to answer the door?

Orual · 03-07-2003, 02:41 PM

If it's okay with everybody else, I'd like to have Sam answer the door. I'm about to leave, so I'll put in a save, and delete it if anybody objects.

~*~Orual~*~

Child of the 7th Age · 03-07-2003, 03:20 PM

Orual,

Looks good.

Everyone,

I have filled in three of the back posts regarding Cami and Lorien. They practically wrote themselves. It is so much easier to rant!

I have one more to go--Cami's conversation with the Vala. Mith---if I do something awful to your character, please let me know and I'll edit. I probably won't get this post up till tomorrow evening, but I don't expect it to be a problem.

Helen--look at the letter to Frodo. I changed it slightly.

sharon

mark12_30 · 03-07-2003, 03:22 PM

Orual: I keep getting confused about the list of Sam's kids. The Encyclopaedia of Arda has this list:

Elanor
Frodo
Rose
Merry
Pippin
Goldilocks
Hamfast
Daisy (gestating).

Not yet conceived:
Primrose
Bilbo
Ruby
Robin
Tolman

Is that list correct? Since I don't have a copy of LOTR at work (I'd never get anything done if I did) I get stuck when I'm doing lunchtime posts...

piosenniel · 03-07-2003, 03:35 PM

Ages of Sam's children:

Elanor - 12
Frodo - 10
Rose - 8
Merry - 6
Pippin - 4
Goldilocks - 2
Hamfast - 1
Daisy (gestating - dob: 1433)

Dates of birth for the others:

Primrose - 1435
Bilbo - 1436
Ruby - 1438
Robin - 1440
Tolman (Tom) - 1442

***Mithadan*** · 03-07-2003, 04:18 PM

Hasn't anyone ever heard of not slying the messesnger? Geez. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

mark12_30 · 03-07-2003, 04:31 PM

Well, you ARE a Vala, so you'd just sort of evaporate anyway. Which would be interesting to watch... Pio?

Rose Cotton · 03-07-2003, 05:23 PM

Who will be going on the walk with Frodo?

Orual · 03-07-2003, 06:34 PM

Helen--

I didn't include Frodo's reply to Sam's invitation in my post. If you want to just PM it to me, I could add it to my post, or I could just write it up. Either way. Just let me know!

~*~Orual~*~

mark12_30 · 03-08-2003, 12:17 AM

Frodo wil take as many kids on the walk as he can get.

piosenniel · 03-08-2003, 05:28 AM

Thought I'd give make a list of Hobbits working at the Green Dragon:

Primrose "Prim" Bolger - took over as Innkeeper from Pio - not married

Ruby Burrows - server at the Inn and Prim's assistant - not married

Hob Hamfast - Inn's stablemaster, married to Minta Chubb - newlyweds, no children yet

"Cook" (Vinca Bunce) - widowed

Buttercup Brownlock - not married

All from Hobbiton/Bywater area

ArwenBaggins · 03-08-2003, 09:22 AM

I just put up a save spot after Mark12_30. In this post Elanor will let her curiosity take the better of her. I am going to see tTT now, but when I get back I will type a post and put it in.

mark12_30 · 03-08-2003, 09:52 AM

ArwenBaggins, very nice post!

Child of the 7th Age · 03-08-2003, 11:56 AM

Hey, Frodo and hobbit children. Cami is at Lorien's new burrow cleaning. She sure could use some help!

Cami

piosenniel · 03-08-2003, 04:07 PM

Nurumaiel

Well done post!

Pio will be asking for you and Peony to see her this coming week sometime to discuss what needs to be done to prepare for the birth.

Bring the children - Hob and his wife Minta can get to know them.

mark12_30 · 03-08-2003, 09:19 PM

While the children pamper Lorien, Frodo and Cami are out talking on the bank of the pond. We've been out for a while; I wonder if Sam is getting restless. Mith, any special requests for next time we come and vbisit Lorien? Or would you like to add something in at this point?

Orual: I finally buckled, and today I shelled out the cost of the book that has the floor plan of Bag End. I scanned it in, and set it on my website:
first page of Bag End

and
second page of Bag End

I figured this would help a great deal. I love the movie set, and this is the floor plan for it, and more... I'm unaware of a better one, though I'm open to suggestions.

ps. Warning, THEY ARE HUGE!! If anybody just can't get them let me know.

[ March 08, 2003: Message edited by: mark12_30 ]

Orual · 03-08-2003, 09:33 PM

Helen, a thousand thanks! What a labyrinth! I'd been picturing something much simpler, but this makes sense--with eight children (going on thirteen, eventually), Sam needs every one of those spare rooms. What a lovely place--I'd like to live there.

And nearly equally interesting was John Howe's speculation on bathrooms in the Shire. LoL!

Again, many thanks. This will help a lot.

~*~Orual~*~

Rose Cotton · 03-08-2003, 10:15 PM

YAY! A frog! Hm...But what should I name it. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

mark12_30 · 03-08-2003, 10:42 PM

Dragoneyes, I talked to Orual, and she likes the idea of Pippin coming to Bag End so that Sam, Frodo and Pippin can all spend some time. So-- let's go for it. You figure out when Pippin can be on the road to Bag End.

I wonder if Bilbo would come too.

Child of the 7th Age · 03-09-2003, 12:08 AM

Bilbo will be happy to oblige. When will you do this on the game thread? When would you like Bilbo to appear t Bag-end? Please advise.

sharon

mark12_30 · 03-09-2003, 12:15 PM

Not sure yet. Frodo and Sam are scheduled for a get-together this afternoon (game time.) I'm waiting on Dragoneyes to tell me what she wants Pippin to do when. I was expecting either this evening or tomorrow, a four- or five- some at Bag End (who's playing Merry these days, Child) and (will Pippin invite Merry to come, Dragoneyes?)

piosenniel · 03-09-2003, 01:16 PM

Sharon

Pio is at present (post not up yet) trying to come to some understanding of what she can do to take care of this problem with Lorien she has started with her unthinking response to his announcement.

Can Cami arrange/ mediate some sort of meeting between the two for its resolve.

Mithadan

It would be helpful to me if I had some inkling as to what Lorien's perspective on this is.

piosenniel · 03-09-2003, 01:28 PM

Helen -

Anyone can pick up the character of Merry to use in their posts. No one is really playing him.

Will that be alright for your needs?

Or, if you wish, I can pick him up again and post for him.

***Mithadan*** · 03-09-2003, 01:44 PM

Lorien has not the slightest clue why everyone is so angry at him. From his perspective, he came for a purpose (which was not his idea and with which he had his doubts), was asked about it by Cami and answered. Pio and Bird happened to be present at the time he was asked.

His delay in speaking of it is attributable to his being unused to the passage of time in the "mortal lands". Nor could he conceive that his "good deed" could be construed as anything other than an act of kindness. What he has brought to the table is the best the Valar could offer and he is shocked at the reception it has received.

His manner of presentation of the offer is a result of both his lack of everyday contact with Men and his use of the Common Tongue. The latter is a language he does not speak in Valinor. While he can use it to communicate, he lacks the expertise to infuse his words with compassion; an analogy is learning a language through books rather than everyday use. Combined with his unfamiliarity with the way Men commonly interact, his words seem cold and imperious.

As for his drunkeness, in Valinor, he could drink a boatload of mead and be pretty much unaffected. The effect that drinking has on his body in Middle Earth is a surprise to him.

Child of the 7th Age · 03-09-2003, 01:48 PM

Good idea, Pio.

Helen, have Frodo suggest to Cami that she try to set up such a meeting. I will respond positively and take it from there.

I have revised the Bilbo post to broach a later theme and repasted it on the thread.

sharon

piosenniel · 03-09-2003, 01:52 PM

Would it be possible just to have Pio ride out to find you? Setting up a meeting isn't her style - can this be more spontaneous?

mark12_30 · 03-09-2003, 01:59 PM

That sounds right to me too, Pio. The tricky part is finding Cami since she didn't tell you where she sent Lorien-- or did she?

piosenniel · 03-09-2003, 02:05 PM

Well . . . how about a little osanwë here? surely the headachey Vala must be broadcasting his whereabouts to anyone tuned in.

Pio wouldn't actually ask Cami to assist her. She will be more likely to ride out and find him, then speak with the Vala directly If Cami happens to be there that would be good.

piosenniel · 03-09-2003, 05:03 PM

Ignoring the express wishes of her rider, 'Falmar wanders over to Cami and noses her in the back.

Carrot? Apple?, she wonders, and stomps her hoof . . .

Child of the 7th Age · 03-09-2003, 08:41 PM

Just got back from an aftenoon at the rodeo....I will answer the door for Pio, and throw my two cents in.

Helen----can I assume that Frodo and crew have left Lorien's burrow. That is what I'll say. If that's wrong and they're still there, please tell me and I'll edit to say they are playing and relaxing in the back.

That was a great ending to Frodo and Cami's conversation! Will leave as is without adding anything.

sharon

mark12_30 · 03-09-2003, 09:02 PM

Cami-- sure, Frodo and kids can be gone. I need to get them home anyway, and sit down with Sam. Poor Bilbo is alone all this time! I wonder how he's doing.

Child of the 7th Age · 03-09-2003, 09:12 PM

I added the goodbyes at the end of your own post, after the children helped to clean the burrow.

sharon

Child of the 7th Age · 03-10-2003, 12:10 AM

Pio or Mithadan (whoever posts next in this sequence),

I've chatted a bit with Pio, and Lorien has just come in the door.

Cami has a request. Her nesting instinct is coming to the fore. (Such instincts are quite strong among hobbits, I believe.) Any chance of getting Lorien invited back into the Inn?

Cami has another idea what to do with that deserted burrow....

You are both welcome to use my character in your posts if it would help bridge the gap between Pio and the Vala.

sharon

piosenniel · 03-10-2003, 03:43 AM

Pio has duly apologised and asked forgiveness of Irmo. And better yet, she has extended an invitation to the both of them to come to supper at the Inn.

At this point, if Cami wishes, she can assume that it is alright with Pio that Lorien come back to the Inn. (Or she can run out and ask Pio before she takes off on her horse, and you can have Pio say 'yes'.)

Pio does not assume that this apology will be accepted or the request for forgiveness fulfilled by the Vala. It does set the parameters for the rest of their interactions. She will be gracious and civil to him, but no closer than that.

[ March 10, 2003: Message edited by: piosenniel ]

03-07-2003, 12:33 PM	#281
piosenniel Desultory Dwimmerlaik Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Pickin' flowers with Bill the Cat..... Posts: 7,779	So, shall I put back my original post? [ March 07, 2003: Message edited by: piosenniel ] __________________ Eldest, that’s what I am . . . I knew the dark under the stars when it was fearless - before the Dark Lord came from Outside.

03-07-2003, 12:36 PM	#282
mark12_30 Stormdancer of Doom Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Elvish singing is not a thing to miss, in June under the stars Posts: 4,349	(Helen votes) : yes __________________ ...down to the water to see the elves dance and sing upon the midsummer's eve.

03-07-2003, 12:48 PM	#283
Child of the 7th Age Spirit of the Lonely Star Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 5,133	This is too funny.......Pio gutting the Vala and having to hightail it out of town. No, I draw the line there! You have to rescue your husband. Anyways, I just wrote half a post where I responded to the news about the message regarding Mithadan and Hob's wild ride.....as a prelue to talking with Lorien. I clicked the edit button and your post was missing. I thought I was hallucinating!! OK, since everybody is being so nice and polite, I'll be the one to crack the whip here!!! Here are Cami's marching instructions. 1. I like the "mean" Pio better. Please take out the one where you're being nice to Lorien, and put in the one where you throw him out on his keester. Put it in the same slot. My post is also in that same slot so make sure not to delete it. I can tweek my post slightly to accomodate the following: 1. throwing a blanket and a few scraps of food to Lorien and telling him to go to the abandoned burrows until/if Pio calms down. 2. writing a letter to Frodo about Cami's guilt that she's dragged her friends into this mess. Helen, you will still get a letter, just slightly modified. 3. Neither Cami or Pio will leave the Inn. They can each slam the door and go sulk in different directions. 4. Pio, put back your last post about rescuing Mithadan. Put it before mine, so mine will make sense. I will edit my subsequent post slightly so that Cami goes trooping out to the deserted burrow on the Bywater pool and brings Lorien some brunch. Hehe, I wonder how Mith will respond to his wife's crude treatment of the Vala? Hope that is ok! If there are any more glitches I've missed, just stick a note here. sharon __________________ Multitasking women are never too busy to vote.

03-07-2003, 01:15 PM	#284
piosenniel Desultory Dwimmerlaik Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Pickin' flowers with Bill the Cat..... Posts: 7,779	Done - continue on __________________ Eldest, that’s what I am . . . I knew the dark under the stars when it was fearless - before the Dark Lord came from Outside.

03-07-2003, 01:56 PM	#285
mark12_30 Stormdancer of Doom Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Elvish singing is not a thing to miss, in June under the stars Posts: 4,349	Pio: Hurray! I like it. Especially the way you added that extra line that wove the twins (defensively but calmly)into your distance from Lorien-- it gives the impression that motherhood might actually calm Pio down somewhat. __________________ ...down to the water to see the elves dance and sing upon the midsummer's eve.

03-07-2003, 01:58 PM	#286
piosenniel Desultory Dwimmerlaik Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Pickin' flowers with Bill the Cat..... Posts: 7,779	Be wary of making that assumption. It is not true. __________________ Eldest, that’s what I am . . . I knew the dark under the stars when it was fearless - before the Dark Lord came from Outside.

03-07-2003, 02:00 PM	#287
mark12_30 Stormdancer of Doom Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Elvish singing is not a thing to miss, in June under the stars Posts: 4,349	Hee hee hee. Al right. Sam, Miz Rose and Gamgee kids: who's going to answer the door? __________________ ...down to the water to see the elves dance and sing upon the midsummer's eve.

03-07-2003, 02:41 PM	#288
Orual Speaker of the Dead Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Superbia Posts: 868	If it's okay with everybody else, I'd like to have Sam answer the door. I'm about to leave, so I'll put in a save, and delete it if anybody objects. ~~Orual~~ __________________ "Oh, my god! I care so little, I almost passed out!" --Dr. Cox, "Scrubs"

03-07-2003, 03:20 PM	#289
Child of the 7th Age Spirit of the Lonely Star Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 5,133	Orual, Looks good. Everyone, I have filled in three of the back posts regarding Cami and Lorien. They practically wrote themselves. It is so much easier to rant! I have one more to go--Cami's conversation with the Vala. Mith---if I do something awful to your character, please let me know and I'll edit. I probably won't get this post up till tomorrow evening, but I don't expect it to be a problem. Helen--look at the letter to Frodo. I changed it slightly. sharon __________________ Multitasking women are never too busy to vote.

03-07-2003, 03:22 PM	#290
mark12_30 Stormdancer of Doom Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Elvish singing is not a thing to miss, in June under the stars Posts: 4,349	Orual: I keep getting confused about the list of Sam's kids. The Encyclopaedia of Arda has this list: Elanor Frodo Rose Merry Pippin Goldilocks Hamfast Daisy (gestating). Not yet conceived: Primrose Bilbo Ruby Robin Tolman Is that list correct? Since I don't have a copy of LOTR at work (I'd never get anything done if I did) I get stuck when I'm doing lunchtime posts... __________________ ...down to the water to see the elves dance and sing upon the midsummer's eve.

03-07-2003, 03:35 PM	#291
piosenniel Desultory Dwimmerlaik Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Pickin' flowers with Bill the Cat..... Posts: 7,779	Ages of Sam's children: Elanor - 12 Frodo - 10 Rose - 8 Merry - 6 Pippin - 4 Goldilocks - 2 Hamfast - 1 Daisy (gestating - dob: 1433) Dates of birth for the others: Primrose - 1435 Bilbo - 1436 Ruby - 1438 Robin - 1440 Tolman (Tom) - 1442 __________________ Eldest, that’s what I am . . . I knew the dark under the stars when it was fearless - before the Dark Lord came from Outside.

03-07-2003, 04:18 PM	#292
*Mithadan* Spirit of Mist Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Tol Eressea Posts: 3,380	Hasn't anyone ever heard of not slying the messesnger? Geez. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] __________________ Beleriand, Beleriand, the borders of the Elven-land.

03-07-2003, 04:31 PM	#293
mark12_30 Stormdancer of Doom Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Elvish singing is not a thing to miss, in June under the stars Posts: 4,349	Well, you ARE a Vala, so you'd just sort of evaporate anyway. Which would be interesting to watch... Pio? __________________ ...down to the water to see the elves dance and sing upon the midsummer's eve.

03-07-2003, 05:23 PM	#294
Rose Cotton Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: A place worse then Mordor........School! Posts: 1,075	Who will be going on the walk with Frodo? __________________ "There's nothing you can do, Harry... nothing... he's gone."-Remus Lupin "The closer we are to danger, the further we are from harm."-Pippin (now how can you argue with that logic?)

03-07-2003, 06:34 PM	#295
Orual Speaker of the Dead Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Superbia Posts: 868	Helen-- I didn't include Frodo's reply to Sam's invitation in my post. If you want to just PM it to me, I could add it to my post, or I could just write it up. Either way. Just let me know! ~~Orual~~ __________________ "Oh, my god! I care so little, I almost passed out!" --Dr. Cox, "Scrubs"

03-08-2003, 12:17 AM	#296
mark12_30 Stormdancer of Doom Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Elvish singing is not a thing to miss, in June under the stars Posts: 4,349	Frodo wil take as many kids on the walk as he can get. __________________ ...down to the water to see the elves dance and sing upon the midsummer's eve.

03-08-2003, 05:28 AM	#297
piosenniel Desultory Dwimmerlaik Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Pickin' flowers with Bill the Cat..... Posts: 7,779	Thought I'd give make a list of Hobbits working at the Green Dragon: Primrose "Prim" Bolger - took over as Innkeeper from Pio - not married Ruby Burrows - server at the Inn and Prim's assistant - not married Hob Hamfast - Inn's stablemaster, married to Minta Chubb - newlyweds, no children yet "Cook" (Vinca Bunce) - widowed Buttercup Brownlock - not married All from Hobbiton/Bywater area __________________ Eldest, that’s what I am . . . I knew the dark under the stars when it was fearless - before the Dark Lord came from Outside.

03-08-2003, 09:22 AM	#298
ArwenBaggins Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: I don't know... will there be a quiz on this later? Posts: 486	I just put up a save spot after Mark12_30. In this post Elanor will let her curiosity take the better of her. I am going to see tTT now, but when I get back I will type a post and put it in. __________________ .:Chelsy:. Reality is a nice place to visit, but I wouldn't want to live there. Terennth Kingdoms

03-08-2003, 09:52 AM	#299
mark12_30 Stormdancer of Doom Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Elvish singing is not a thing to miss, in June under the stars Posts: 4,349	ArwenBaggins, very nice post! __________________ ...down to the water to see the elves dance and sing upon the midsummer's eve.

03-08-2003, 11:56 AM	#300
Child of the 7th Age Spirit of the Lonely Star Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 5,133	Hey, Frodo and hobbit children. Cami is at Lorien's new burrow cleaning. She sure could use some help! Cami __________________ Multitasking women are never too busy to vote.

03-08-2003, 04:07 PM	#301
piosenniel Desultory Dwimmerlaik Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Pickin' flowers with Bill the Cat..... Posts: 7,779	Nurumaiel Well done post! Pio will be asking for you and Peony to see her this coming week sometime to discuss what needs to be done to prepare for the birth. Bring the children - Hob and his wife Minta can get to know them. __________________ Eldest, that’s what I am . . . I knew the dark under the stars when it was fearless - before the Dark Lord came from Outside.

03-08-2003, 09:19 PM	#302
mark12_30 Stormdancer of Doom Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Elvish singing is not a thing to miss, in June under the stars Posts: 4,349	While the children pamper Lorien, Frodo and Cami are out talking on the bank of the pond. We've been out for a while; I wonder if Sam is getting restless. Mith, any special requests for next time we come and vbisit Lorien? Or would you like to add something in at this point? Orual: I finally buckled, and today I shelled out the cost of the book that has the floor plan of Bag End. I scanned it in, and set it on my website: first page of Bag End and second page of Bag End I figured this would help a great deal. I love the movie set, and this is the floor plan for it, and more... I'm unaware of a better one, though I'm open to suggestions. ps. Warning, THEY ARE HUGE!! If anybody just can't get them let me know. [ March 08, 2003: Message edited by: mark12_30 ] __________________ ...down to the water to see the elves dance and sing upon the midsummer's eve.

03-08-2003, 09:33 PM	#303
Orual Speaker of the Dead Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Superbia Posts: 868	Helen, a thousand thanks! What a labyrinth! I'd been picturing something much simpler, but this makes sense--with eight children (going on thirteen, eventually), Sam needs every one of those spare rooms. What a lovely place--I'd like to live there. And nearly equally interesting was John Howe's speculation on bathrooms in the Shire. LoL! Again, many thanks. This will help a lot. ~~Orual~~ __________________ "Oh, my god! I care so little, I almost passed out!" --Dr. Cox, "Scrubs"

03-08-2003, 10:15 PM	#304
Rose Cotton Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: A place worse then Mordor........School! Posts: 1,075	YAY! A frog! Hm...But what should I name it. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] __________________ "There's nothing you can do, Harry... nothing... he's gone."-Remus Lupin "The closer we are to danger, the further we are from harm."-Pippin (now how can you argue with that logic?)

03-08-2003, 10:42 PM	#305
mark12_30 Stormdancer of Doom Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Elvish singing is not a thing to miss, in June under the stars Posts: 4,349	Dragoneyes, I talked to Orual, and she likes the idea of Pippin coming to Bag End so that Sam, Frodo and Pippin can all spend some time. So-- let's go for it. You figure out when Pippin can be on the road to Bag End. I wonder if Bilbo would come too. __________________ ...down to the water to see the elves dance and sing upon the midsummer's eve.

03-09-2003, 12:08 AM	#306
Child of the 7th Age Spirit of the Lonely Star Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 5,133	Bilbo will be happy to oblige. When will you do this on the game thread? When would you like Bilbo to appear t Bag-end? Please advise. sharon __________________ Multitasking women are never too busy to vote.

03-09-2003, 12:15 PM	#307
mark12_30 Stormdancer of Doom Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Elvish singing is not a thing to miss, in June under the stars Posts: 4,349	Not sure yet. Frodo and Sam are scheduled for a get-together this afternoon (game time.) I'm waiting on Dragoneyes to tell me what she wants Pippin to do when. I was expecting either this evening or tomorrow, a four- or five- some at Bag End (who's playing Merry these days, Child) and (will Pippin invite Merry to come, Dragoneyes?) __________________ ...down to the water to see the elves dance and sing upon the midsummer's eve.

03-09-2003, 01:16 PM	#308
piosenniel Desultory Dwimmerlaik Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Pickin' flowers with Bill the Cat..... Posts: 7,779	Sharon Pio is at present (post not up yet) trying to come to some understanding of what she can do to take care of this problem with Lorien she has started with her unthinking response to his announcement. Can Cami arrange/ mediate some sort of meeting between the two for its resolve. Mithadan It would be helpful to me if I had some inkling as to what Lorien's perspective on this is. __________________ Eldest, that’s what I am . . . I knew the dark under the stars when it was fearless - before the Dark Lord came from Outside.

03-09-2003, 01:28 PM	#309
piosenniel Desultory Dwimmerlaik Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Pickin' flowers with Bill the Cat..... Posts: 7,779	Helen - Anyone can pick up the character of Merry to use in their posts. No one is really playing him. Will that be alright for your needs? Or, if you wish, I can pick him up again and post for him. __________________ Eldest, that’s what I am . . . I knew the dark under the stars when it was fearless - before the Dark Lord came from Outside.

03-09-2003, 01:44 PM	#310
*Mithadan* Spirit of Mist Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Tol Eressea Posts: 3,380	Lorien has not the slightest clue why everyone is so angry at him. From his perspective, he came for a purpose (which was not his idea and with which he had his doubts), was asked about it by Cami and answered. Pio and Bird happened to be present at the time he was asked. His delay in speaking of it is attributable to his being unused to the passage of time in the "mortal lands". Nor could he conceive that his "good deed" could be construed as anything other than an act of kindness. What he has brought to the table is the best the Valar could offer and he is shocked at the reception it has received. His manner of presentation of the offer is a result of both his lack of everyday contact with Men and his use of the Common Tongue. The latter is a language he does not speak in Valinor. While he can use it to communicate, he lacks the expertise to infuse his words with compassion; an analogy is learning a language through books rather than everyday use. Combined with his unfamiliarity with the way Men commonly interact, his words seem cold and imperious. As for his drunkeness, in Valinor, he could drink a boatload of mead and be pretty much unaffected. The effect that drinking has on his body in Middle Earth is a surprise to him. __________________ Beleriand, Beleriand, the borders of the Elven-land.

03-09-2003, 01:48 PM	#311
Child of the 7th Age Spirit of the Lonely Star Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 5,133	Good idea, Pio. Helen, have Frodo suggest to Cami that she try to set up such a meeting. I will respond positively and take it from there. I have revised the Bilbo post to broach a later theme and repasted it on the thread. sharon __________________ Multitasking women are never too busy to vote.

03-09-2003, 01:52 PM	#312
piosenniel Desultory Dwimmerlaik Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Pickin' flowers with Bill the Cat..... Posts: 7,779	Would it be possible just to have Pio ride out to find you? Setting up a meeting isn't her style - can this be more spontaneous? __________________ Eldest, that’s what I am . . . I knew the dark under the stars when it was fearless - before the Dark Lord came from Outside.

03-09-2003, 01:59 PM	#313
mark12_30 Stormdancer of Doom Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Elvish singing is not a thing to miss, in June under the stars Posts: 4,349	That sounds right to me too, Pio. The tricky part is finding Cami since she didn't tell you where she sent Lorien-- or did she? __________________ ...down to the water to see the elves dance and sing upon the midsummer's eve.

03-09-2003, 02:05 PM	#314
piosenniel Desultory Dwimmerlaik Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Pickin' flowers with Bill the Cat..... Posts: 7,779	Well . . . how about a little osanwë here? surely the headachey Vala must be broadcasting his whereabouts to anyone tuned in. Pio wouldn't actually ask Cami to assist her. She will be more likely to ride out and find him, then speak with the Vala directly If Cami happens to be there that would be good. __________________ Eldest, that’s what I am . . . I knew the dark under the stars when it was fearless - before the Dark Lord came from Outside.

03-09-2003, 05:03 PM	#315
piosenniel Desultory Dwimmerlaik Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Pickin' flowers with Bill the Cat..... Posts: 7,779	Ignoring the express wishes of her rider, 'Falmar wanders over to Cami and noses her in the back. Carrot? Apple?, she wonders, and stomps her hoof . . . __________________ Eldest, that’s what I am . . . I knew the dark under the stars when it was fearless - before the Dark Lord came from Outside.