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Saraphim · 06-29-2004, 12:20 AM

Growl. None of the old links work for me. It's probably because they're old.

I've got a picture that makes me look like I'm commanding the minions of Thangorodrim to my every whim, but you can't really see what I look like.

Vuelve · 06-30-2004, 09:28 PM

I think Alk.'s last post in a while was on this thread. Perhaps Alk. has done the unthinkable and abandoned the photo page and the Downs? If Alk. has, does anyone else agree that a new photo page should be created?? I would love to take on the responsibility, but currently both of my Email addresses are the free versions of hotmail and yahoo which don't allow that much space.I also don't know a good place to post them; I could check out MSN groups about posting.Or a better ultimatium could be a section here on the Downs for pictures like they have on CouncilofElrond.com.This is just a suggestion.Does anyone else have any imput??

Vuelve

Gorwingel · 06-30-2004, 10:17 PM

I agree
I really think that we need to have another photo page put together, and if you are all for the responsiblity Vuelve, I think you should go for it.

It is sad that Alk dissapeared, and I wish him the best of luck wherever he is

Mad Baggins · 06-30-2004, 10:59 PM

I agree, that is a very good idea, Vuelve. It could have one thread for pictures and another for comments and suggestions. We just need to convince the B-W.

Vuelve · 07-01-2004, 12:14 PM

I agree that we should try to convince the BW before I undergo the tedious process of creating a picture page.Blah I'm not very good at that sort of thing.Anyone volunteer to convince the BW??

Mad Baggins · 07-01-2004, 01:25 PM

I'll give it a go, and let you guys know of the result. Wish me luck!

The Only Real Estel · 07-01-2004, 01:34 PM

Good luck. I'm sure the BW is waiting for you, since he's probably been reading all the posts on this thread

. If we can't have a pic page here on the downs, I think it'd be a great idea to get one started somewhere else. But don't look at me, I have no expierence with websites

.

Mad Baggins · 07-01-2004, 01:55 PM

Most likely he has, Estel.

Okay, the PM has been sent and now all we need to do is wait for a response.

Vuelve · 07-01-2004, 05:13 PM

Bah!!! Waiting Sucks!!! **Have I mentioned that I love you yet today Mr. BW??? Your my hero.** *cough* sorry I couldn't help a little shamless sucking up.

Mad Baggins · 07-01-2004, 05:22 PM

There's a little brown on your nose, there, Vuelve...

Vuelve · 07-02-2004, 06:16 PM

Brown! On my nose! You truely are mad!........

.........Just look at my avatar Mr. BW. Just look into my eyes. How could you resist granting a humble, poor, little, kittie's request?*sniffle**sniffle*

***The Barrow-Wight*** · 07-02-2004, 06:46 PM

OK, OK. A photo topic here on the Downs sounds like a good idea, but we'll need a couple things figured out before I give it a final OK.

First, who is going to maintain it? I would need one dedicated forum member who knows how to use FTP and how to resize images. You'd have to know how to FTP, because we would host the pics on the Downs server. You'd have to know how to resize images, because we'd have to set a size limit - 250 sounds senisible to me.

I've had a few PMs about it (ohhh... I do so dislike when people gang up with PMs), but I'm not really sure who'll fit the bill just yet. Do I have any volunteers?

**The Saucepan Man** · 07-04-2004, 05:28 PM

I'd be happy to volunteer, but I have no idea what FTP is, let alone how to use it. So there may be better candidates ...

Niluial · 07-04-2004, 07:07 PM

I am an experienced FTP user and know exactly what to do. I also know how to resize images and currently have lots of time on my hands. I would love to offer my help.

Vuelve · 07-05-2004, 10:05 AM

Although like The Saucepan Man I don't know what FTP is, I was one of the people pushing to get something like this done here on the Downs, so I volunteer to help.

Alkanoonion · 07-06-2004, 08:47 PM

Sorry for such a long absence, I have been around just not posting Alk would never abandon the Downs; it's my fav site.

I have an updated Downs photo page that is ready for posting I have just been preoccupied with work. While I get the page posted why not have a look at some pictures of the LOTR parade

http://www.hallsofmandos.net/photo.htm

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OK, OK. A photo topic here on the Downs sounds like a good idea, but we'll need a couple things figured out before I give it a final OK.

First, who is going to maintain it? I would need one dedicated forum member who knows how to use FTP and how to resize images. You'd have to know how to FTP, because we would host the pics on the Downs server. You'd have to know how to resize images, because we'd have to set a size limit - 250 sounds senisible to me.

Looks like BW is going to host the pics here on the downs, I can use ftp (file transfer protocol) but if you have someone else who would like to take on maintaining the new page I can send them the members pictures or I can upload them to the server.

Vuelve · 07-07-2004, 01:34 PM

Yay!!! You came back!!!

mark12_30 · 07-07-2004, 04:24 PM

Saucie, I think you could get used to FTP pretty quickly.

Who do I talk to to get my picture removed? Or exhanged for another one?

Legolas · 07-07-2004, 09:15 PM

I can do it. I've been resizing images and using FTP for a long time. Alk can do it if he wants - if so, I can just help, and take over in vacation periods.

Fordim Hedgethistle · 07-07-2004, 09:31 PM

Hey, who needs FTP -- wanna see precisely what I look like? Check out the Avvie. . .

Nilpaurion Felagund · 07-08-2004, 12:19 AM

Yeah, right!

But really, you look a lot better than your avvie - checked out your page. It was awesome.

Do I get the impression that you're a...

Zip it, buster.

Alkanoonion · 07-08-2004, 07:22 AM

Barrow Down members photos can be found on

http://www.hallsofmandos.net/downs.htm

Fordim Hedgethistle · 07-08-2004, 07:40 AM

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But really, you look a lot better than your avvie - checked out your page. It was awesome.

Sorry to disappoint, but if you went to the page linked as my homepage, then that's not me at all. I merely linked to that "end of the Internet" site as a joke. I am not Dan Hughes.

Guess I should remove that for fear of more unintentional misrepresentation!

Niluial · 07-08-2004, 03:49 PM

Is there an email address or something where we can send updated pictures to?

Feanor of the Peredhil · 07-08-2004, 05:58 PM

Alk, any way of finding out who's who on there? Nice pics and all (great job), but I'd love to know who I'm actually seeing. Although it was kinda fun going through and saying "that looks somewhat like I pictured Sharku".

Fea

Imladris · 07-08-2004, 06:05 PM

On my computer I just hovered my mouse over the pictures. And then on the bottom left hand corner of the browser (you know the part that says "done" when the page is done loading) that's where I see who's on it. Of course the entire URL is ther as well, but their name is there as well.

Cheers,
Imladris

Firefoot · 07-08-2004, 06:31 PM

My computer doesn't have the hover thing either... but I figured out that if you click on the thumbnails and get the larger pic, the name of that BD'er shows up in the address bar, for example: http://www.hallsofmandos.net/Lindolirian.jpg is Lindolirian's pic.

Nilpaurion Felagund · 07-08-2004, 09:04 PM

OK, you scare me, Fordim.

All estimations about you were wrong. I guess I must go to ultimate stalk-mode, then. Mwahahahaha!!!

BTW, nice new site, Alka.

Alkanoonion · 07-08-2004, 09:56 PM

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any way of finding out who's who on there

I can add the names on tonight when I remove some of the pictures.

Until things change you can have your pic added or removed by E-mail me at jwahl@bigpond.com

Araréiel · 07-08-2004, 11:40 PM

Yup, that's me, from a photo shoot in February.

If you need any help, I know a perfectly good person sitting right here who stays home all day and is working on getting up a website, LordOfTheRingsOnline.net..... Might be a good place for pics. I'll foot the bill up to a point. I know where to get some really cheap bandwidth too. I've been learning some of this stuff, and this would be a great opportunity to learn more.

Orominuialwen · 07-10-2004, 08:17 PM

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wanna see precisely what I look like? Check out the Avvie

Oh shoot! I was hoping you looked more like your old avatar.

I love pugs!

Alkanoonion · 07-14-2004, 07:29 AM

ok the photo page has been updated with 2 new pictures (Bekah the one in the middle http://www.hallsofmandos.net/Bekah.jpg
and AmanaduialtheArcher http://www.hallsofmandos.net/Amanadu...0Archer%20.jpg to look at all the photos just select
http://www.hallsofmandos.net/downs.htm

Evisse the Blue · 07-14-2004, 05:11 PM

Really nice! It's weird how everyone looks more or less like I imagined them. Especially Erendis, who is by far the cutest BD-er I've seen so far!

the phantom · 07-15-2004, 01:41 PM

Keep adding those pics, Alka, especially if they're well dressed, hot lookin' young ladies like Bekah and Aman. Nice pics you two.

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Especially Erendis, who is by far the cutest BD-er I've seen so far!

Hee hee... yeah, that's such a cute picture.

Bekah · 07-15-2004, 01:56 PM

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Keep adding those pics, Alka, especially if they're well dressed, hot lookin' young ladies like Bekah and Aman. Nice pics you two.

*blushes* Thank you, Phantom.

~ Elentari II

P.S. For anyone interested, my avatar is also a pic of me. Just so you all know...

Alkanoonion · 07-15-2004, 06:29 PM

Bekah I just loved your photo, is your pic from a play? I think that a story is hidden here. your expression is very interesting.

Bekah · 07-15-2004, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Alkanoonion

Bekah I just loved your photo, is your pic from a play? I think that a story is hidden here. your expression is very interesting.

I don't look very happy, do I?

Yes, it's from the recent production of Sound of Music. On the far left is Baron Eberfield, standing next to his wife, Baroness Eberfield. Captain Von Trapp - played by Ray Woolf (famous actor in NZ, not sure how widespread his fame is) - is leaning over me to kiss her hand. I played Frau Zeller, the wife of the most prominent Nazi in the story. I'm not very pleased, as my 'husband' has just created a nasty scene at the party we are attending, hosted by the Captain.

It was lots of fun. I also played a nun - I was kneeling at the alter when the curtain came up, all by my onesies...though my knees did get sore doing that night after night after night - and I was the understudy to Sister Margaretta.

Unfortunately, our melodrama 'play' at school is a nightmare....we have to write our own script and so on, but one of the boys in our 5-person cast is an absolute moron...it's going worse than nowhere and we have only one week left!!!

You look beautiful, Aman. So do many of the others - or handsome as the case may be (no names

). I really enjoy seeing everybody's pic...some don't look at all the way I imagined them. Erendis looks sweet, and so do the other baby pics.

Cheers,

~ Rebekah

Orominuialwen · 07-16-2004, 06:13 PM

You guys all look great!

Now if only I could get my scanner to work so I could show you my pic...

Amanaduial the archer · 07-17-2004, 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by the phantom

Keep adding those pics, Alka, especially if they're well dressed, hot lookin' young ladies like Bekah and Aman. Nice pics you two.

*also blushes predictably* Thanks, Phantom.

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though my knees did get sore doing that night after night after night

Oh dear....

I love that film.

Alkanoonion · 07-29-2004, 03:32 AM

I have updated the Downs member photo gallery with a new picture of Bekah, http://www.hallsofmandos.net/Bekah%20pic2.jpg
Remember when sending in your pictures to please have barrow downs in the subject line or it might be removed in error.

All are welcome to send in new pictures E-mail me jwahl@bigpond.com

06-29-2004, 12:20 AM	#281
Saraphim Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: The other side of freezing. Posts: 404	Growl. None of the old links work for me. It's probably because they're old. I've got a picture that makes me look like I'm commanding the minions of Thangorodrim to my every whim, but you can't really see what I look like. __________________ I drink Pan Galactic Gargle Blasters! ~ Always remember: pillage BEFORE you burn.

06-30-2004, 09:28 PM	#282
Vuelve Wight Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: A portal to an alternate dimension at your local Wal-Mart store. Posts: 161	I think Alk.'s last post in a while was on this thread. Perhaps Alk. has done the unthinkable and abandoned the photo page and the Downs? If Alk. has, does anyone else agree that a new photo page should be created?? I would love to take on the responsibility, but currently both of my Email addresses are the free versions of hotmail and yahoo which don't allow that much space.I also don't know a good place to post them; I could check out MSN groups about posting.Or a better ultimatium could be a section here on the Downs for pictures like they have on CouncilofElrond.com.This is just a suggestion.Does anyone else have any imput?? Vuelve __________________ Now, what do you own the world? How do you own disorder? Disorder! - Toxicity-System of A Down

06-30-2004, 10:17 PM	#283
Gorwingel Beholder of the Mists Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Somewhere in the Northwest... for now Posts: 1,419	I agree I really think that we need to have another photo page put together, and if you are all for the responsiblity Vuelve, I think you should go for it. It is sad that Alk dissapeared, and I wish him the best of luck wherever he is __________________ Wanted - Wonderfully witty quote that consists of pure brilliance

06-30-2004, 10:59 PM	#284
Mad Baggins Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: A place where after thunder golden showers come falling like a rain of flowers. Posts: 371	I agree, that is a very good idea, Vuelve. It could have one thread for pictures and another for comments and suggestions. We just need to convince the B-W. __________________ I like buying snacks from a vending machine because food is better when it falls. Sometimes at the grocery, I'll drop a candy bar so that it will achieve its maximum flavor potential.

07-01-2004, 12:14 PM	#285
Vuelve Wight Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: A portal to an alternate dimension at your local Wal-Mart store. Posts: 161	I agree that we should try to convince the BW before I undergo the tedious process of creating a picture page.Blah I'm not very good at that sort of thing.Anyone volunteer to convince the BW?? __________________ Now, what do you own the world? How do you own disorder? Disorder! - Toxicity-System of A Down

07-01-2004, 01:25 PM	#286
Mad Baggins Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: A place where after thunder golden showers come falling like a rain of flowers. Posts: 371	I'll give it a go, and let you guys know of the result. Wish me luck! __________________ I like buying snacks from a vending machine because food is better when it falls. Sometimes at the grocery, I'll drop a candy bar so that it will achieve its maximum flavor potential. Last edited by Mad Baggins; 07-01-2004 at 01:28 PM.

07-01-2004, 01:34 PM	#287
The Only Real Estel Raffish Rapscallion Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Far from the 'Downs, it seems :-( Posts: 2,835	Good luck. I'm sure the BW is waiting for you, since he's probably been reading all the posts on this thread . If we can't have a pic page here on the downs, I think it'd be a great idea to get one started somewhere else. But don't look at me, I have no expierence with websites .

07-01-2004, 01:55 PM	#288
Mad Baggins Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: A place where after thunder golden showers come falling like a rain of flowers. Posts: 371	Most likely he has, Estel. Okay, the PM has been sent and now all we need to do is wait for a response. __________________ I like buying snacks from a vending machine because food is better when it falls. Sometimes at the grocery, I'll drop a candy bar so that it will achieve its maximum flavor potential.

07-01-2004, 05:13 PM	#289
Vuelve Wight Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: A portal to an alternate dimension at your local Wal-Mart store. Posts: 161	Bah!!! Waiting Sucks!!! Have I mentioned that I love you yet today Mr. BW??? Your my hero. cough sorry I couldn't help a little shamless sucking up. __________________ Now, what do you own the world? How do you own disorder? Disorder! - Toxicity-System of A Down

07-01-2004, 05:22 PM	#290
Mad Baggins Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: A place where after thunder golden showers come falling like a rain of flowers. Posts: 371	There's a little brown on your nose, there, Vuelve... __________________ I like buying snacks from a vending machine because food is better when it falls. Sometimes at the grocery, I'll drop a candy bar so that it will achieve its maximum flavor potential.

07-02-2004, 06:16 PM	#291
Vuelve Wight Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: A portal to an alternate dimension at your local Wal-Mart store. Posts: 161	Brown! On my nose! You truely are mad!........ .........Just look at my avatar Mr. BW. Just look into my eyes. How could you resist granting a humble, poor, little, kittie's request?snifflesniffle __________________ Now, what do you own the world? How do you own disorder? Disorder! - Toxicity-System of A Down

07-02-2004, 06:46 PM	#292
*The Barrow-Wight* Night In Wight Satin Join Date: May 2000 Posts: 4,043	Ok OK, OK. A photo topic here on the Downs sounds like a good idea, but we'll need a couple things figured out before I give it a final OK. First, who is going to maintain it? I would need one dedicated forum member who knows how to use FTP and how to resize images. You'd have to know how to FTP, because we would host the pics on the Downs server. You'd have to know how to resize images, because we'd have to set a size limit - 250 sounds senisible to me. I've had a few PMs about it (ohhh... I do so dislike when people gang up with PMs), but I'm not really sure who'll fit the bill just yet. Do I have any volunteers? __________________ The Barrow-Wight

07-04-2004, 05:28 PM	#293
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	I'd be happy to volunteer, but I have no idea what FTP is, let alone how to use it. So there may be better candidates ... __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

07-04-2004, 07:07 PM	#294
Niluial Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: In the darkness of white Posts: 601	I am an experienced FTP user and know exactly what to do. I also know how to resize images and currently have lots of time on my hands. I would love to offer my help. __________________ Life is not about how many breaths you take but about how many times it leaves you breathless. My rants, moans and groans in other words my Blog My Magical Site

07-05-2004, 10:05 AM	#295
Vuelve Wight Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: A portal to an alternate dimension at your local Wal-Mart store. Posts: 161	Although like The Saucepan Man I don't know what FTP is, I was one of the people pushing to get something like this done here on the Downs, so I volunteer to help. __________________ Now, what do you own the world? How do you own disorder? Disorder! - Toxicity-System of A Down

07-07-2004, 01:34 PM	#297
Vuelve Wight Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: A portal to an alternate dimension at your local Wal-Mart store. Posts: 161	Yay!!! You came back!!! __________________ Now, what do you own the world? How do you own disorder? Disorder! - Toxicity-System of A Down

07-07-2004, 04:24 PM	#298
mark12_30 Stormdancer of Doom Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Elvish singing is not a thing to miss, in June under the stars Posts: 4,349	Saucie, I think you could get used to FTP pretty quickly. Who do I talk to to get my picture removed? Or exhanged for another one? __________________ ...down to the water to see the elves dance and sing upon the midsummer's eve.

07-07-2004, 09:15 PM	#299
Legolas A Northern Soul Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Valinor Posts: 1,847	I can do it. I've been resizing images and using FTP for a long time. Alk can do it if he wants - if so, I can just help, and take over in vacation periods. __________________ ...take counsel with thyself, and remember who and what thou art.

07-07-2004, 09:31 PM	#300
Fordim Hedgethistle Gibbering Gibbet Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Beyond cloud nine Posts: 1,844	Hey, who needs FTP -- wanna see precisely what I look like? Check out the Avvie. . .

07-08-2004, 12:19 AM	#301
Nilpaurion Felagund Scion of The Faithful Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The brink, where hope and despair are akin. [The Philippines] Posts: 5,312	Fordim... Yeah, right! But really, you look a lot better than your avvie - checked out your page. It was awesome. Do I get the impression that you're a... Zip it, buster. __________________ フェンリス鴨 (Fenrisu Kamo) The plot, cut, defeated. I intend to copy this sig forever - so far so good...

07-08-2004, 07:22 AM	#302
Alkanoonion Spirit in Eriador Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Adelaide Posts: 392	Barrow Down members photos can be found on http://www.hallsofmandos.net/downs.htm __________________ In prosperity our friends know us; in adversity we know our friends.

07-08-2004, 03:49 PM	#304
Niluial Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: In the darkness of white Posts: 601	Is there an email address or something where we can send updated pictures to? __________________ Life is not about how many breaths you take but about how many times it leaves you breathless. My rants, moans and groans in other words my Blog My Magical Site

07-08-2004, 05:58 PM	#305
Feanor of the Peredhil La Belle Dame sans Merci Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: perpetual uncertainty Posts: 5,517	Alk, any way of finding out who's who on there? Nice pics and all (great job), but I'd love to know who I'm actually seeing. Although it was kinda fun going through and saying "that looks somewhat like I pictured Sharku". Fea __________________ peace

07-08-2004, 06:05 PM	#306
Imladris Tears of the Phoenix Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Putting dimes in the jukebox baby. Posts: 1,453	On my computer I just hovered my mouse over the pictures. And then on the bottom left hand corner of the browser (you know the part that says "done" when the page is done loading) that's where I see who's on it. Of course the entire URL is ther as well, but their name is there as well. Cheers, Imladris __________________ I'm sorry it wasn't a unicorn. It would have been nice to have unicorns. I'm your huckleberry.

07-08-2004, 06:31 PM	#307
Firefoot Illusionary Holbytla Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 7,547	My computer doesn't have the hover thing either... but I figured out that if you click on the thumbnails and get the larger pic, the name of that BD'er shows up in the address bar, for example: http://www.hallsofmandos.net/Lindolirian.jpg is Lindolirian's pic.

07-08-2004, 09:04 PM	#308
Nilpaurion Felagund Scion of The Faithful Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The brink, where hope and despair are akin. [The Philippines] Posts: 5,312	What?! OK, you scare me, Fordim. All estimations about you were wrong. I guess I must go to ultimate stalk-mode, then. Mwahahahaha!!! BTW, nice new site, Alka. __________________ フェンリス鴨 (Fenrisu Kamo) The plot, cut, defeated. I intend to copy this sig forever - so far so good...

07-08-2004, 11:40 PM	#310
Araréiel Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 92	To see me, look at my av Yup, that's me, from a photo shoot in February. If you need any help, I know a perfectly good person sitting right here who stays home all day and is working on getting up a website, LordOfTheRingsOnline.net..... Might be a good place for pics. I'll foot the bill up to a point. I know where to get some really cheap bandwidth too. I've been learning some of this stuff, and this would be a great opportunity to learn more.

07-14-2004, 07:29 AM	#312
Alkanoonion Spirit in Eriador Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Adelaide Posts: 392	ok the photo page has been updated with 2 new pictures (Bekah the one in the middle http://www.hallsofmandos.net/Bekah.jpg and AmanaduialtheArcher http://www.hallsofmandos.net/Amanadu...0Archer%20.jpg to look at all the photos just select http://www.hallsofmandos.net/downs.htm __________________ In prosperity our friends know us; in adversity we know our friends.

07-14-2004, 05:11 PM	#313
Evisse the Blue Brightness of a Blade Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: wherever I may roam Posts: 2,685	Really nice! It's weird how everyone looks more or less like I imagined them. Especially Erendis, who is by far the cutest BD-er I've seen so far! __________________ And no one was ill, and everyone was pleased, except those who had to mow the grass.

07-15-2004, 06:29 PM	#316
Alkanoonion Spirit in Eriador Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Adelaide Posts: 392	Bekah I just loved your photo, is your pic from a play? I think that a story is hidden here. your expression is very interesting. __________________ In prosperity our friends know us; in adversity we know our friends.

07-16-2004, 06:13 PM	#318
Orominuialwen Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: May 2003 Location: Umbar, but before the corsairs took over. (Ave Maria University, FL, USA) Posts: 632	You guys all look great! Now if only I could get my scanner to work so I could show you my pic... __________________ Gone for lentSeeyou at Easter! (And on Sundays too, maybe.)

07-29-2004, 03:32 AM	#320
Alkanoonion Spirit in Eriador Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Adelaide Posts: 392	I have updated the Downs member photo gallery with a new picture of Bekah, http://www.hallsofmandos.net/Bekah%20pic2.jpg Remember when sending in your pictures to please have barrow downs in the subject line or it might be removed in error. All are welcome to send in new pictures E-mail me jwahl@bigpond.com __________________ In prosperity our friends know us; in adversity we know our friends.