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06-03-2006, 05:34 AM | #281 |
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Cailin, thanks for the backhanded compliment I think... I am not acting less clever than I am... I am sorry my heart isn't in it as much as usual. I am so tired thanks to yet more upset preventing a decent nights sleep again that I feel that I am not functioning well - in the new mother or a junior doctor league. I still want to see it through but part of me would be relieved.
I am a baffled, tired and re ordo at the moment. I have posted openly my thoughts and opinions, possibly tactically stupid but at least I am out there. Why shouldn't I U-Turn? I never claimed ot be Mrs Thatcher. I don't know who is who, the wolves do, the gifteds may. I am neither. If someone seems to know something defineite why is it alarming to give them a chance? As I said it is a dangerous claim to make...
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06-03-2006, 05:51 AM | #282 |
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All right, Mith.
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06-03-2006, 05:56 AM | #284 |
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Elempi, I am not saying that you could not both be innocents.
I'm thinking that, if you both are wolves, Mith would not have changed her vote so quickly. I agree: Mith's latest posts have rather convinced me of her innocence (at least enough to give her the benefit of the doubt today). It does not automatically follow that you are a wolf though, and I never said that. |
06-03-2006, 06:09 AM | #285 |
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Those last posts convince me as well. Removing Mith from my suspect list...
I have a lot of stuff to catch up on besides WW. So, bear with me a little longer today. I'm planning to take a closer look at TGWBS, who's been escaping my notice, and morm. Possibly one or two others as well.
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Two major things happened yesterday, and though people have touched on both, I'm surprised at how little has been said. The first was Caran coming out of the closet concerning her Huntress tendencies. The second, in conjunction, was the rushed lynching of SpM. Now then, it might just be me, but I think Cailin's and my actions yesterday would probably exonerate us. I was quite expecting Cailin to die tonight. Why do our actions exonerate us? Because we saved the Hunter. Perhaps a wolf would do such a thing to gain trust - but it would be an incredibly stupid wolf, and here's why. Caran is somebody we can ALL trust now. Her opinions are definitely innocent. Anything anybody else says could be a wolf speaking, but not her. She gives villagers a safe base to rally around. Objectively speaking, it would be better if we all trusted her opinions instead of forming our own, but obviously people would resist this. Certainly her opinions should be considered more important than anybody else's. Sorry to pressure you, Caran, but you should get as much analysis as you can done today. That said, Caran is definitely the Hunter. Quote:
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06-03-2006, 06:39 AM | #287 |
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Just got here. Got a bit lost on the way.
I did a bit of skimming, though, and I must say that I missed being suspected. So long as it doesn't get me wrongfully lynched, because I am as innocent as innocent goes. Will be back after catching up completely, and with a quick vote. |
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Well, I'm here.
Probably innocent Nogrod Celuien Caranlondien - I believe her claim Not very suspicious of Cailín Lhuna Mith - her few latest posts are quite convincing Fin Tom LMP - after rereading his posts I didn't find anything especially suspicious there Totally unknown Durelin TGWBS Fea I can't interpret their behaviour. Wary of morm Quote:
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06-03-2006, 07:07 AM | #289 |
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Just popping in. I was planning on doing a morm-analysis myself. If Lommy covers the points, fine; if she doesn't, I'll do it myself anyway.
I just have time to comment on LMP. LMP started the SpM bandwagon with what seemed like complete certainty. This makes me think he is innocent - he once aimed such a concerted attack on me. I have come to disregard much of what he says simply because he has a knack for accusing innocents and getting them lynched. So, while I maintain that he is innocent, I will be sure not to listen to him. |
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Morm analysis
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#12 - Says he's glad to see Kath dead and jokes about ww-meat. #86 - Says he's in a hurry and he has a lot to catch up; votes TGWBS. Reason: Quote:
Day 2 #133 - Suspects Cara (says she's nervous, reacts but not too strongly to accusations, tries to divert suspicion) and votes her. #157 - Says he's catching up, confirms LMP's werewolf weariness comment. Says Thinlómien tries to grasp any straw that is moderately suspicious and claims she intentionally misunderstood SPM and twisted his words. Names Thinlómien, Cara and TGWBS as his top suspects, but gives no reasoning. Explains his absence. #233 - Explains his RL hurries. #239 - Quotes TGWBS: Quote:
Day 3 #261 - Is back, explains his ww weariness and his reasons to be in the game mainly being only that Kath is modding. Sums up general impressions. Suspects Cailín, TGWBS, Thinlómien and Durelin. Doesn't suspect Mith, Fea, Nogrod and Celuien. #268 - Claims that if he was a wolf, no one would be suspecting him. Suspects Thinlómien and says she does a remarkable job at picking flavour of the day. #275 - Analyses Thinlómien. Accuses her of twisting SPM's words, not understanding him, giving weak reasoning on Boromir-vote, voting morm because of playing style and "taking path of least resistance". Conclusions up in a minute, and a few responses to him on passages I felt uneasy about...
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55: Apologies for late arrival. Lots of Pokemon talk. Thinks that day 1 is useless because innocents have nothing to work on. Will vote at random, says he will not retract his vote. Votes Cailin. 57: Says there’s an inconsistency in SPaM’s idea about the usefulness of day ones re finding clues in Kath’s narration. 61: Says the mod is impartial and there are no clues in the narration. 83: Doesn’t care about retractable votes, says he won’t use them because they shouldn’t be needed and he’s too lazy to make use of any advantage they may give. Says they make w olf-spotting harder. Is apathetic about the Changling. 91: More Pokemon. Wants reasoning for Morm’s vote. Here ends day one… Day two… 116: Joke about Formy and shorts. Says he notices Durelin (Anti-retractable votes. Pro-random. Good.), Caranlondien (Easily swayed by others. Bad) and Findeasea (Good reasons against Boro. Post 108). 118: Thinks Formy was killed for giving no information so the village can confuse itself, or (less likely) to cast suspicion on Saucy, LMP or Cailin. Suspicious of Spawn and Cailin. 122: Thinks Formy was killed to prevent disruptions. 154: Thinks SpaM is making mistakes that mistakes don’t look good for him. Finds theories about Morm, LMP, Caran and Durelin intersesting, but will ignore it because he doesn’t know who to trust. 156: Summary of events leading to Boromir’s death. 165: Pokemon talk and thinks that SPaM is too tricksey for him to analyze effectively. Thinks Mormy is reluctant to voice worries that keep him on the suspect list. 169: La mort de Boromir, deuxičme partie. Neutral towards Tom, but not sure what to think of him. 171: Doesn’t want to jump on minor details to make a case about wolvery because it leads to innocents dying. Defense of views on Caran, Cailin and Morm. 176: Doesn’t think Lommy is a wolf based on her attacks on Boro, suspects spawn a little. 197: Thinks morm is apathetic and unreasonable and that it would be good to kill him whether or not he’s a wolf. Votes for Mormegil. 221: Would be glad to kill SpM for being unfathomable. Not sure what to think of Caran, other than her being easily manipulated. Will consider switching to SpM. 228: Says Findeasea is pathetic for voting Mith (throwaway vote). Is inclined to switch to SpM, but doesn’t want to make a tie. 232: Switches vote to SpM to save Caran. 234: Tells Morm and Nogrod to change their votes to SpM to save Caran. 241: Rhetorical question about losing an innocent SpM versus the Hunter. 243: Would change back to Morm, but Caran would die if he did. Wants to know what Morm finds threatening about him. 249/250: More about voting for SpM/saving Caran. Here ends day two… Day three… 286: Thinks Cailin and he are exonerated by their efforts to save Caran. 289: Thinks LMP is innocent because of the certainty with which he started the SpM bandwagon, but will be careful not to listen to him due to LMP’s record of getting innocents lynched. I find TGWBS rather unsuspicious. While I disagree with his claim that working to save Caran exonerates him - any intelligent wolf would have done the same thing to maintain cover and gain village trust - he says enough reasonable things and has overall behaved honestly enough (I think) that he doesn't really garner much suspicion from me. Agree with the assessment of LMP. He doesn't strike me as a wolf. Same reasons as TGWBS. Agressively attacking innocent SPM was risky, and my opinion is that LMP would be better at staying undercover as a furry one than to try to get SPM lynched.
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Right. Now. Caran's the Hunter; believe her. The real Hunter would have come out if she wasn't. There have been quite a few scenarios similar to this in the past.
There are a lot of ways to use this info, I just realized. If I'm not mistaken, she can only bring someone with her to the grave if she is killed by the wolves, and not if she is lynched. And it's not as if we'll lynch her, anyway. So, how will the wolves use this? They have to be careful in killing her, even if she's already a revealed gifted and they're probably itching right now to get rid of her. If Caran outrightly suspects a wolf, she would definitely not be killed that Night, unless the wolves are stupid enough to risk killing one of their own. If she suspects an innocent that Day, she is more likely to be killed the next Night since she will potentially be bringing an innocent down with her. That's as far as I can go, and I wouldn't even try to counsel Caran about what her actions should be with this in mind. I'm sure any counsel from me will be directionless. Next up, SpM's death. That last-minute change-of-vote chaos last Night was the perfect spot for waiting wolves to hide in; they can easily pass off their votes for SpM as an attempt to save Caran. And they will be glad to do it, since, duh, they will be getting rid of SpM. So who voted for SpM? Elempi - the reason for his change of mind from dancing spawn (also an innocent) was interesting: Quote:
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Caran - to save herself, of course. tgwbs - a change from a reasonable vote for morm, to save Caran. A fair change, I suppose, since he didn't have any solid opinions on SpM, anyway. He sounded genuinely concerned about Caran's safety. No longer so suspicious as he was yesterDay. Cailín - also to save Caran, and a fair vote since she said she didn't want to vote for morm yet, who was the other possible lynchee. *dramatically wipes forehead* But what stands out to me from this flurry of votes are those who seem not to want to get involved in the lynching of two innocents, as we know them now. Actually, that should be singular: Fin's vote for Mith. And yes, admittedly tgwbs presented the idea of it being a throwaway vote right after she cast it, but I just want to bring it up to everyone lest he forgets, because it's really worth noting. And another thing, morm, could you please explain this? Quote:
Speaking of morm...perhaps I need to defend myself a little. After my ancestress's suicide in a village of the not-so-distant past, I want to make up and be a lot more helpful (at least in my perspective) this time. I hope there's nothing wrong with that. And there's no reason for me to be Lhoony since it's not a Full Moon. Oh geesh, look at the time! I'll be back for a vote in a short while. |
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His Day1, which I regarded as suspicious doesn't make mee feel suspicious of him anymore. He seems just like a normal villager in a hurry. His Day2 is a bit more worriesome. He doesn't give any reasons to his suspicions. As said before, it might be an answer-provoking strategy, but I still don't like it. It'd be a perfect cover for a wolf. And, suspicion of all those persons he mentioned had been expressed before. So the answer-provoking was in vain. Furthermore, those people were generally suspected so he even didn't bring new cases out. His Day3 is not much better. More about the post #268 above. I don't like his analysis of me either. What kind of accusation is: Quote:
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Mith's defense has convinced me for toDay. Cailín I also feel a bit better about after hearing more from her. Am I wrong, or do we have yet to hear from Fea toDay?
I'll have to rework my suspicions list... Not a Likely Werewolf: Celuien Nogrod lmp Need to be watched, but not quite on my suspect list: Lhuna TGWBS Cailín Mith Fin Suspicious: Tom Lommy morm Can't read them at all, and therefore suspicious of them: Fea Durelin This was done rather quickly... I'll be back in an hour with more, I hope. |
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I'm sorry, this is all I have time for (for the rest of) toDay:
Innocent, duh Caran Seems innocent Celuien Nogrod Somewhere in between Elempi Cailín tgwbs Mith Plain confusing/I don't know Fea tom Lommy Uh-oh morm Fin Durelin Now...Fin has been making a lot of sense then suddenly made that vote yesterDay. morm is starting to be himself but still not quite. Both would be very helpful if innocent. I'll have to stick to my previous vote: ++DURELIN See you tomorrow (I hope), fellow villagers. Last edited by Lhunardawen; 06-03-2006 at 08:47 AM. Reason: x-ed with Caran |
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Many of the points I wanted to make about morm have already been made. However, one or two remain.
The first is his constant willingness to lynch me with no reasoning whatsoever. It could, admittedly, have been some sort of ploy, but after three days it's got tiresome. Cough up some reasons, monkey-man. Why do comments such as telling you to switch votes - which, incidentally, I only made once - cause you to suspect me? Where and when do spawn and SpM make cases against me? Quote:
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Finally, why did you not try to save Caran yesterday? Nogrod had the excuse of mixing up his maths and thinking we could lynch you instead. You simply said I was making you suspicious and that was it. ++MORMEGIL Because I suspect him, and repeated requests for logic have been systematically ignored. Maybe you'll respond now. Last edited by the guy who be short; 06-03-2006 at 09:11 AM. Reason: Irrational adjectives |
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Morm - reasoning above. Fea - You may be busy, but input today was completely feeble. No reasoning whatsoever, just a vote for LMP. Fin - That throwaway vote. Explain it. Known innocent: Caran Likely innocent: LMP Cailin Undecided: Lhuna Celuien Lommy Nogrod Tom Mith Durelin Now I'm off to look over what people have said about SpM's lynching. |
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Not a Likely Werewolf: Celuien Nogrod lmp Need to be watched, but not quite on my suspect list: Lhuna TGWBS Cailín Mith Fin Lommy Suspicious: Tom morm Can't read them at all, and therefore suspicious of them: Fea Durelin So right now I'm most suspicious of those last four. |
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I've done a bit more reading and have come to an unfavourable conclusion of durelin due to long-winded and semi-existant reasoning when voting for SpM, and a positive view of Lhuna for talking a lot of good sense. IMPORTANT As I have said before, Caran's proven innocence is of immense importance. We should have used it a lot more today. We must use Caran's decision in lieu of our own because we can all trust her objectivity. Caran - why do you not trust Tom? I am ambivalent towards him and would welcome your analysis. Also, whom do you suspect the most? You should take charge today because we probably only have you for a day. I'm happy to change my vote to Fea or durelin and probably will be to change it to Tom given a little reasoning. |
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Day One #43: Says no one looks very suspicious yet, casts vote for Boro because of overt emphasis on his innocence. Day Two #124: Thinks Form's death may indicate the wolves are comfortable with their position in the village hierarchy. Says Caran needs looking at but doubts the wolves would be so obvious as to kill someone who voted for one of them. #146: Says he's being swayed by the village's suspicion of Caran. Also suspects morm. #149: Analyzes SpM, makes some points against him but in the end decides he's probably innocent. #151: Says looking over SpM's posts, it hit him how little morm has been talking. Theorizes about morm changing his style because of his recent wolvish ancestor's success. Wants to watch him. #168: Says he has abandoned his big-players conspiracy, thinks SpM is innocent and hasn't had time to look at others. Has to leave soon and will probably be voting for Caran or Spawn. #174: Votes morm. My thoughts: His shift to morm does look a little odd after saying he'd probably be voting for Caran or Spawn. He seems to explain it by saying that he didn't know morm wouldn't be returning for the Day. That doesn't really make sense to me, as I didn't want to vote for morm that Day for exactly the same reason - he wouldn't be back to explain himself. This is little to go on, but it makes me nervous. |
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As so many seem to not read what I write I will say it again, when I quoted you telling me that Caran was the hunter I didn't see it all I saw was your part about not being able to get Morm today. As I know I'm innocent, statements like that make me suspect you. Oh by the way, you MUST be innocent for saving Caran yesterday and...oh wait it wasn't you but it was Cailin, who I feel is innocent after hearing from her today, but somehow you ride the coat tails of it and try and have us all convinced that you are innocent. I don't think an ordo or gifted would push forward their own innocence that much. Celuien, thank you for the summary but you came to an incorrect conclusion about TGWBS. He hasn't posted much that overly reasonable. He's been fairly single minded in his attack of me and refuses to draw up detailed conclusions of others Quote:
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I'll await the rest of the post. Honestly, I'm wavering between voting for you on the basis of what's been posted or Durelin for her defensiveness and the other aspects of my earlier analysis, but I'd be interested in what you have to say about Guy.
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Caran, I have to say that I do not share your suspicions of Tom. I think you may have misread the post in which he explains his vote for Morm. It seems to me that his justification for voting was that he thought that the ‘weariness argument’ was a way for him to get away with being a quiet wolf.
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In post 302 he wants to give control to Caran which has me extremely worried; not because I don't trust Caran but rather I don't trust TGWBS. He is riding on the coat tails again here and I agree that Caran's insights can be viewed as genuine but can we view them as accurate? Certainly not. She knows no more than any other innocent, save the seer and is bound to the same mistakes that we all make as innocents. She's a good source of trust but she's by no means infallible.
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morm, I completely agree with you. I was just about to post that I don't want to "take charge" because it'll give the wolves an easy hiding place (e.g., "But Caran told me to vote for <insert name of an innocent here>). TGWBS has struck me as trying to ingratiate himself with me (though if you've honestly got that much faith in my wolf-spotting abilities, I'm flattered, but disagree) So TGWBS is on my suspicions list now. The only thing that makes me hesitate is that he actually argued that he and Cailin were exonerated by their saving me yesterDay. Would a wolf be so obvious?
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Regarding Mith, I feel I know her very well and can read her and know how she would react as a wolf. She is not. Sadly I am not the seer but the wolves can kill me to find out.
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morm is beginning to feel rather more innocent to me. Of course if TGWBS is a wolf, this could be a clever sacrifice that morm can ride 'til the end. But for now, I'm starting to feel more inclined to trust him.
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06-03-2006, 10:26 AM | #314 |
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And now I feel more inclined to trust TGWBS...
See, this is why you shouldn't put all your faith in me |
06-03-2006, 10:35 AM | #315 | |
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What I will do is provide you with a list of suspects from an objective opinion. Vote as you wish, ignoring my list if you so choose. I don't think that merely voting for someone not on my list should be taken as a wolvish-act; rather, I think that, as usual, reasoning and previous suspicions should be taken into account. Take this as objective advice, not as a List of Doom (I believe Gurthang has a copyright on that term ) morm TGWBS Feanor Durelin |
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06-03-2006, 10:43 AM | #316 | |
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We should listen to Caran, but I don't think that blind following is wise. X- posted with Caran, her suggestion idea seems much more reasonable than TGWBS's plan |
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06-03-2006, 10:55 AM | #317 | |
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06-03-2006, 11:02 AM | #318 |
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The voting so far...
Fea => lmp (lmp 1)
Lhuna => Durelin (lmp 1, Durelin 1) tgwbs => morm (lmp 1, Durelin 1, morm 1) lmp => Fin (lmp 1, Durelin 1, morm 1, Fin 1) Left to vote: Cailín, Celuien, Lommy, Nogrod, Tom, Caran, Fin, Mith, morm, Durelin |
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06-03-2006, 11:14 AM | #320 |
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++TGWBS
He seems the most suspicious to me. I may have been a bit hard earlier on but he and I have a history of respectful disagreement occasionally laced with petty insults . Another reason to vote for him in a past instance with him when I was the cobbler and he was wolf he was doing well but continued one day to long in his single minded attack on me which ended up getting him lynched. This is reminscent of this.
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