Survivor: The Second Age - Page 8 - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Eomer of the Rohirrim · 03-08-2006, 01:12 PM

Oooh! Here's my chance!

++ERENDIS

Get bandwagoning!

JennyHallu · 03-08-2006, 01:13 PM

++Khamul, for not having humps.

Anguirel · 03-08-2006, 01:20 PM

Sensible lass.

++KHAMUL, THE, HO HO, THIS JOKE WILL NEVER DIE, CAMEL

I shall have terrible, bloody vengeance for the motiveless destruction that just occurred...

Kuruharan · 03-08-2006, 01:26 PM

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Oooh! Here's my chance!

++ERENDIS

Get bandwagoning!

Statement: My word, you are a man of little variety.

Query: Doesn't this get boring?

the phantom · 03-08-2006, 01:40 PM

Formendacil- by my count Gil-galad only received five votes.

Diamond18 voted for "Gild-galad".

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The tribes of the Sindar and the Elendili lead the race in remaining candidates.

Quite right! We should, for the sake of balance, put forward candidates from those two groups.

My two picks would be Ohtar and Oropher.

Celuien · 03-08-2006, 03:55 PM

Apologies for missing the Khamul appeal earlier, Ang! Celeborn was safe, at least. Though I miss Gil-Galad already.

++KHAMUL THE CAMEL

**The Saucepan Man** · 03-08-2006, 05:54 PM

+ + CELEBORN

This is why.

He was an embarassment to the title of Elf Lord in the Third Age. I can't imagine that he was any better in the Second.

Gil-Galad · 03-08-2006, 06:53 PM

Khamul the Easterling..., Cirdan the shipwright...

++Anarion the smashed-in head

arcticstorm · 03-08-2006, 07:41 PM

I am making it my mission to save at least one Nazgul. Therefore, I will agree with Saucepan and vote for ++Celeborn

Firefoot · 03-08-2006, 08:22 PM

++Celeborn

He's been sitting in the back of my mind for a while, now. He's just not that interesting of a guy - rather flat. I don't see any outstanding merits of his that would earn him the right to winning Survivor.

Galadriel sure didn't have the greatest of tastes.

the phantom · 03-08-2006, 10:46 PM

+ + Ohtar
I already gave reasons the other day.

If it comes down to Khamul and Celeborn, I will vote to save Khamul. Celeborn isn't one of my favorites, and we need bad guys to keep things even.

Diamond18 · 03-08-2006, 11:40 PM

++Celeborn

Why? His name shares an uncanny resemblance to that most icky of vegetables, the dread celery stalk, as is well documented in Chapter the 64th of this most accurate and estimable historical tome.

I rest my case.

Anguirel · 03-09-2006, 02:21 AM

phantom, by supporting the attackers of Celeborn, even if obliquely, you become a pawn of none other than the Alliance of Ultra-Doom.

No longer shall the name of the phantom be loved, worshipped and feared!

Nay, little children shall giggle and point in the street-"There goes the thrall of Saucey..."

Lhunardawen · 03-09-2006, 03:11 AM

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Formendacil- by my count Gil-galad only received five votes.

Diamond18 voted for "Gild-galad".

the phantom speaks the truth! *grasps at straws*

So why didn't you Celeborn-voters vote for him yesterDay?

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Originally Posted by Anguirel

I shall have terrible, bloody vengeance for the motiveless destruction that just occurred...

Yeah, like he said.

++KHAMUL, Nazgul of the Desert

Not even the Witch-King was given his own name!

dancing spawn of ungoliant · 03-09-2006, 06:05 AM

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Originally Posted by JennyHallu

++Khamul, for not having humps.

I'd rather evict him if he had humps.

Let me get this straight, you guys vote for Khamûl because when it's pronounced wrong, his name somewhat resembles the word camel. Well, that's just clever. I mean really, it must be the best reason I've ever heard.

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Originally Posted by Lhuna

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Originally Posted by Anguirel

I shall have terrible, bloody vengeance for the motiveless destruction that just occurred...

Yeah, like he said.

Now, how did it go again? 'Don't hate the game, hate the player', or something like that.

I'm sorry for your loss, but it's hardly Khamûl's fault that Gil-Galad got voted off yesterday. You Khamûl voters could have saved the Elf King by voting for Celeborn then. Like this:

++Celeborn

Lhuna, yesterday you said:

"I'll willingly detract my vote for Khamûl if you help me get rid of Celeborn"

Well, wouldn't this be a good chance to get rid of him?

Eomer of the Rohirrim · 03-09-2006, 07:10 AM

Ah Kuruharan, since you and your faction cannot buy me you mock me with snide words. Such a childish strategy will do you no good.

Anguirel · 03-09-2006, 07:45 AM

Lhuna, listen not to the spawn.

Gil-Galad's fall was engineered by the supporters of Khamul. They must suffer as a result.

Besides, attacking Celeborn is an orthodox and boring to do.

You'll see the same tired arguments coming out.

"He doesn't do much." To which I say, he's too cool to lower himself by getting involved in the plot.

"He's not as pretty as his wife." And your point is? The Queen isn't as pretty as Rosamund Pike; does that mean we should execute her?

"He's a Sinda and we don't need them around." You are a follower of the phantom. Allow yourself to be convinced that pan-Noldorism is counterproductive.

"He's got a stupid Quenya name." He was given a stupid Quenya name at a time when Tolkien was committing such errors as to declare Galadriel morally unambiguous.

"I'm swayed by Saucie's sequence of pictures." Read it from Celeborn's point of view. A decent host suffering a rather trying marriage.

To all Elf-sympathisers-in the words of Russellus Croweus Maximus Australianus, "the only chance we have of getting out of this place alive is if we stay together."

To all individualists-voting Khamul is a rare opportunity to annoy Saucie and the phantom at the same time...

JennyHallu · 03-09-2006, 07:46 AM

Yay! Perfect! Vote Khamul!

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Let me get this straight, you guys vote for Khamûl because when it's pronounced wrong, his name somewhat resembles the word camel. Well, that's just clever. I mean really, it must be the best reason I've ever heard.

We have backup!

**The Saucepan Man** · 03-09-2006, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Anguirel

To all individualists-voting Khamul is a rare opportunity to annoy Saucie and the phantom at the same time...

It is, as I have made clear on numerous occasions, no skin off my nose who goes. So to attempt to annoy me in this contest is a fruitless task.

I'm all for annoying the phantom and his Noldorian superiority complex, as and when the occasion presents itself, but today is not such a day.

And it has to be said that annoying you, Ang, is a most entertaining endeavour.

Anguirel · 03-09-2006, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by The Saucepan Man

It is, as I have made clear on numerous occasions, no skin off my nose who goes. So to attempt to annoy me in this contest is a fruitless task.

For some reason, Wolfman Sauce, I've never quite trusted your word on that. Oh! Do I hear the squeals of Pippin in my ears? How odd...

Besides, my contacts and researchers have it differently.

Now I'm happy to admit when I'm annoyed. Some people in this world have a sense of justice.

The vote has sung the so-called Alliance's tune long enough!

**The Saucepan Man** · 03-09-2006, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Anguirel

Oh! Do I hear the squeals of Pippin in my ears?

I don't see Pippin's name on the roster. Nor indeed that of any Hobbit.

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Originally Posted by Anguirel

Besides, my contacts and researchers have it differently.

Then your intelligence is either faulty or it has been "sexed up" to make it more palatable to you. Unfortunately, both rather common shortcomings in intelligence these days.

Anguirel · 03-09-2006, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by The Saucepan Man

I don't see Pippin's name on the roster. Nor indeed that of any Hobbit.

What?? An unforgivable oversight.

Right.

I declare:

Sauron Baggins

The Witchroarer

and Khamwise "The Camel" Gamgee all demonically cunningly disguised Hobbits of the Shire.

Stop them, Downers, ere they consume Middle-earth! Also, Saucey will burst into tears when we evict them! Guaranteed!

dancing spawn of ungoliant · 03-09-2006, 08:34 AM

Anguirel, you try to be original and an individual so hard that you don't leave yourself much scope. If your vote depends on the amount of people who will get annoyed, it's hardly very independent.

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Lhuna, listen not to the spawn.

Ouch! I was just asking her a question.

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Gil-Galad's fall was engineered by the supporters of Khamul

Your bright logics dazzle me, my good sir.

Isn't it obvious that if one doesn't want Khamûl to go, he or she votes for someone else. Usually the vote goes to a candidate who already has votes and thus makes the saving of, in this case, Khamûl possible.

It could have been Celeborn...

Anguirel · 03-09-2006, 08:37 AM

Well, unless you haven't noticed, that's scarcely a very tempting prospect to me either...

You lot can be sanctimonious about annoying people, because you're fighting the easy battle...

the phantom · 03-09-2006, 11:01 AM

Well, Ang, if it'll make you happy I'll vote for Khamul and force a tie for now. Since neither is a character that I think deserves to win, I wouldn't be terribly disappointed to see them both gone.

But Kuru and Lalaith haven't voted yet, and we know who they will vote for, so I don't really see the point.

Unless you can talk a few others into it like Eomer and Gil, my vote for Khamul wouldn't matter in the least.

Anguirel · 03-09-2006, 11:07 AM

You do yourself an injustice, phantom! Everyone will surely flock to follow your vote! Please leap to my side.

Besides, though Lalaith won't break the Alliance, I think she might just abstain in this situation.

I assure you that the newly dubbed hobbit is beloved of your foes. Strike Khamul!

the phantom · 03-09-2006, 11:10 AM

All right. Since I don't care too much, I suppose it would make sense for me to lend my vote to someone who does care.

To force a tie....
- - Ohtar
+ + Khamul

Eomer and Gil- it's a guarantee at this point that your candidates aren't going to be killed. If it's all the same to you, see if you can keep Khamul even with Celeborn if Celeborn pulls ahead, if for no other reason than Sauce so obviously wants Celeborn to get more votes than Khamul.

Kuruharan · 03-09-2006, 11:25 AM

The Diamond-encrusted one speaks sense...and she has the good taste to cite a work of literature that I participated in.

++ Celeborn

Ang, have you ever read The Art of War? There are a few good points therein you could profit by...particularly at the end of the first chapter relating to estimates and calculations.

Anguirel · 03-09-2006, 11:32 AM

You smug Machiavelli/Sun Tzuist, spouting your strategems. I defy you and your cohorts. I trust in passion and taste. And the (admittedly suppressed at present) propensity of truehearted voters to support the underdog.

Lalaith · 03-09-2006, 11:34 AM

I'm sorry Ang.
The Alliance needs me.
++CELEBORN.
Good night, sweet prince, may flights of angels sing you to your rest.

the phantom · 03-09-2006, 11:35 AM

I told you those two would vote for Celeborn, Ang.

Unless you can convince others within the next few hours, Celeborn is toast.

Anguirel · 03-09-2006, 11:35 AM

The Alliance! What is the Alliance?

A dagger of the mind, a false creation...

Wait! Lalaith's vote does not count.

It is not reasoned.

Can you give any reason, lady, any reason for voting Celeborn but that you are swung by your masters?

Only...two...more...votes...

Lalaith · 03-09-2006, 11:45 AM

Well, his absence might give poor lovelorn Celebrimbor a look-in....
There's a nice romantic, swashbuckling, quixotic reason for you.

the phantom · 03-09-2006, 12:01 PM

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Wait! Lalaith's vote does not count.

You shouldn't have said anything about it, waited until voting was over, and then told Formy.

So, do you think you can round up any votes, Ang?

Anguirel · 03-09-2006, 12:03 PM

I don't sink that low.

And I can do "any", but "enough" is proving difficult. Where is the League that was monopolising, to paraphrase Theoden?

Mithalwen · 03-09-2006, 12:08 PM

but nevertheless in possession of passion and taste.

++ Khamul the Easterling

He is somewhat insubstantial - can't tell if he is Bactrian or a dromedary. But it might explain this nazgul's strange relationship to water.

And Celeborn is the silverhaired, prettyboy trophy husband of the Age.

Anguirel · 03-09-2006, 12:09 PM

There. Even if I am defeated, it's something that Mith is cut down at my side.

Allow me to fly a banner of blue and silver, just waiting for it to be trampled upon...

JennyHallu · 03-09-2006, 12:11 PM

I always felt sorry for Celeborn. He was a great man in his own right, but so eclipsed by his wife, who felt free to run rough-shod over him whenever she pleased. Vote Khamul and support helpless, henpecked, husbands!

EDIT: Like mine

Feanor of the Peredhil · 03-09-2006, 12:16 PM

Celeborn is awesome. He stormed Mirkwood and drove out the baddies, he's supposedly the wisest guy around in the 3rd Age... I like him and don't want to see him go.

Khamul, on the other hand, is merely a cronie. Sure, he's got his own name, but he's a minion. No will of his own. No point in keeping him around.

++Khamul

lord of dor-lomin · 03-09-2006, 12:17 PM

To counter The Saucepan Man's obvious anti-elf attitude, I vote for
+ + Khamul

03-08-2006, 01:12 PM	#281
Eomer of the Rohirrim Auspicious Wraith Join Date: May 2002 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 4,859	Oooh! Here's my chance! ++ERENDIS Get bandwagoning! __________________ Los Ingobernables de Harlond

03-08-2006, 01:13 PM	#282
JennyHallu The Pearl, The Lily Maid Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: In my luxury Barrow, snuggled up in a pile of satin pillows, eating fresh fruit. Posts: 1,628	++Khamul, for not having humps. __________________ <=== Lookee, lookee, lots of IM handles!

03-08-2006, 01:20 PM	#283
Anguirel Byronic Brand Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The 1590s Posts: 2,778	Sensible lass. ++KHAMUL, THE, HO HO, THIS JOKE WILL NEVER DIE, CAMEL I shall have terrible, bloody vengeance for the motiveless destruction that just occurred... __________________ Among the friendly dead, being bad at games did not seem to matter -Il Lupo Fenriso

03-08-2006, 03:55 PM	#286
Celuien Riveting Ribbiter Join Date: May 2005 Location: Assigned to Mordor Posts: 1,767	Apologies for missing the Khamul appeal earlier, Ang! Celeborn was safe, at least. Though I miss Gil-Galad already. ++KHAMUL THE CAMEL __________________ People assume that time is a strict progression of cause to effect. But actually, from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint, it's more like a big ball of wibbly-wobbly, timey-wimey... stuff.

03-08-2006, 05:54 PM	#287
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	Shameless self promotion + + CELEBORN This is why. He was an embarassment to the title of Elf Lord in the Third Age. I can't imagine that he was any better in the Second. __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind! Last edited by The Saucepan Man; 03-09-2006 at 06:19 AM.

03-08-2006, 06:53 PM	#288
Gil-Galad Psyche of Prince Immortal Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Above a Parapet Obvious exits are: North, South, and Dennis Posts: 4,734	Khamul the Easterling..., Cirdan the shipwright... ++Anarion the smashed-in head __________________ Love doesn't blow up and get killed.

03-08-2006, 07:41 PM	#289
arcticstorm Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Johnson Bible College: Knoxville, TN Posts: 464	I am making it my mission to save at least one Nazgul. Therefore, I will agree with Saucepan and vote for ++Celeborn

03-08-2006, 08:22 PM	#290
Firefoot Illusionary Holbytla Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 7,547	++Celeborn He's been sitting in the back of my mind for a while, now. He's just not that interesting of a guy - rather flat. I don't see any outstanding merits of his that would earn him the right to winning Survivor. Galadriel sure didn't have the greatest of tastes.

03-08-2006, 10:46 PM	#291
the phantom Beloved Shadow Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: The Stadium Posts: 5,971	+ + Ohtar I already gave reasons the other day. If it comes down to Khamul and Celeborn, I will vote to save Khamul. Celeborn isn't one of my favorites, and we need bad guys to keep things even. __________________ the phantom has posted. This thread is now important.

03-08-2006, 11:40 PM	#292
Diamond18 Eidolon of a Took Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: my own private fantasy world Posts: 3,460	Listen to me, little shrunken gold horse-head thingy ++Celeborn Why? His name shares an uncanny resemblance to that most icky of vegetables, the dread celery stalk, as is well documented in Chapter the 64th of this most accurate and estimable historical tome. I rest my case. __________________ All shall be rather fond of me and suffer from mild depression.

03-09-2006, 02:21 AM	#293
Anguirel Byronic Brand Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The 1590s Posts: 2,778	phantom, by supporting the attackers of Celeborn, even if obliquely, you become a pawn of none other than the Alliance of Ultra-Doom. No longer shall the name of the phantom be loved, worshipped and feared! Nay, little children shall giggle and point in the street-"There goes the thrall of Saucey..." __________________ Among the friendly dead, being bad at games did not seem to matter -Il Lupo Fenriso

03-09-2006, 07:10 AM	#296
Eomer of the Rohirrim Auspicious Wraith Join Date: May 2002 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 4,859	Ah Kuruharan, since you and your faction cannot buy me you mock me with snide words. Such a childish strategy will do you no good. __________________ Los Ingobernables de Harlond

03-09-2006, 07:45 AM	#297
Anguirel Byronic Brand Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The 1590s Posts: 2,778	Lhuna, listen not to the spawn. Gil-Galad's fall was engineered by the supporters of Khamul. They must suffer as a result. Besides, attacking Celeborn is an orthodox and boring to do. You'll see the same tired arguments coming out. "He doesn't do much." To which I say, he's too cool to lower himself by getting involved in the plot. "He's not as pretty as his wife." And your point is? The Queen isn't as pretty as Rosamund Pike; does that mean we should execute her? "He's a Sinda and we don't need them around." You are a follower of the phantom. Allow yourself to be convinced that pan-Noldorism is counterproductive. "He's got a stupid Quenya name." He was given a stupid Quenya name at a time when Tolkien was committing such errors as to declare Galadriel morally unambiguous. "I'm swayed by Saucie's sequence of pictures." Read it from Celeborn's point of view. A decent host suffering a rather trying marriage. To all Elf-sympathisers-in the words of Russellus Croweus Maximus Australianus, "the only chance we have of getting out of this place alive is if we stay together." To all individualists-voting Khamul is a rare opportunity to annoy Saucie and the phantom at the same time... __________________ Among the friendly dead, being bad at games did not seem to matter -Il Lupo Fenriso

03-09-2006, 08:37 AM	#304
Anguirel Byronic Brand Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The 1590s Posts: 2,778	Well, unless you haven't noticed, that's scarcely a very tempting prospect to me either... You lot can be sanctimonious about annoying people, because you're fighting the easy battle... __________________ Among the friendly dead, being bad at games did not seem to matter -Il Lupo Fenriso

03-09-2006, 11:01 AM	#305
the phantom Beloved Shadow Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: The Stadium Posts: 5,971	Well, Ang, if it'll make you happy I'll vote for Khamul and force a tie for now. Since neither is a character that I think deserves to win, I wouldn't be terribly disappointed to see them both gone. But Kuru and Lalaith haven't voted yet, and we know who they will vote for, so I don't really see the point. Unless you can talk a few others into it like Eomer and Gil, my vote for Khamul wouldn't matter in the least. __________________ the phantom has posted. This thread is now important.

03-09-2006, 11:07 AM	#306
Anguirel Byronic Brand Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The 1590s Posts: 2,778	You do yourself an injustice, phantom! Everyone will surely flock to follow your vote! Please leap to my side. Besides, though Lalaith won't break the Alliance, I think she might just abstain in this situation. I assure you that the newly dubbed hobbit is beloved of your foes. Strike Khamul! __________________ Among the friendly dead, being bad at games did not seem to matter -Il Lupo Fenriso

03-09-2006, 11:10 AM	#307
the phantom Beloved Shadow Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: The Stadium Posts: 5,971	All right. Since I don't care too much, I suppose it would make sense for me to lend my vote to someone who does care. To force a tie.... - - Ohtar + + Khamul Eomer and Gil- it's a guarantee at this point that your candidates aren't going to be killed. If it's all the same to you, see if you can keep Khamul even with Celeborn if Celeborn pulls ahead, if for no other reason than Sauce so obviously wants Celeborn to get more votes than Khamul. __________________ the phantom has posted. This thread is now important.

03-09-2006, 11:25 AM	#308
Kuruharan Regal Dwarven Shade Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: A Remote Dwarven Hold Posts: 3,589	The Diamond-encrusted one speaks sense...and she has the good taste to cite a work of literature that I participated in. ++ Celeborn Ang, have you ever read The Art of War? There are a few good points therein you could profit by...particularly at the end of the first chapter relating to estimates and calculations. __________________ ...finding a path that cannot be found, walking a road that cannot be seen, climbing a ladder that was never placed, or reading a paragraph that has no...

03-09-2006, 11:32 AM	#309
Anguirel Byronic Brand Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The 1590s Posts: 2,778	You smug Machiavelli/Sun Tzuist, spouting your strategems. I defy you and your cohorts. I trust in passion and taste. And the (admittedly suppressed at present) propensity of truehearted voters to support the underdog. __________________ Among the friendly dead, being bad at games did not seem to matter -Il Lupo Fenriso

03-09-2006, 11:34 AM	#310
Lalaith Blithe Spirit Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,779	I'm sorry Ang. The Alliance needs me. ++CELEBORN. Good night, sweet prince, may flights of angels sing you to your rest. __________________ Out went the candle, and we were left darkling

03-09-2006, 11:35 AM	#311
the phantom Beloved Shadow Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: The Stadium Posts: 5,971	I told you those two would vote for Celeborn, Ang. Unless you can convince others within the next few hours, Celeborn is toast. __________________ the phantom has posted. This thread is now important.

03-09-2006, 11:35 AM	#312
Anguirel Byronic Brand Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The 1590s Posts: 2,778	The Alliance! What is the Alliance? A dagger of the mind, a false creation... Wait! Lalaith's vote does not count. It is not reasoned. Can you give any reason, lady, any reason for voting Celeborn but that you are swung by your masters? Only...two...more...votes... __________________ Among the friendly dead, being bad at games did not seem to matter -Il Lupo Fenriso Last edited by Anguirel; 03-09-2006 at 11:40 AM.

03-09-2006, 11:45 AM	#313
Lalaith Blithe Spirit Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,779	Well, his absence might give poor lovelorn Celebrimbor a look-in.... There's a nice romantic, swashbuckling, quixotic reason for you. __________________ Out went the candle, and we were left darkling

03-09-2006, 12:03 PM	#315
Anguirel Byronic Brand Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The 1590s Posts: 2,778	I don't sink that low. And I can do "any", but "enough" is proving difficult. Where is the League that was monopolising, to paraphrase Theoden? __________________ Among the friendly dead, being bad at games did not seem to matter -Il Lupo Fenriso

03-09-2006, 12:08 PM	#316
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,455	Clearly, I am a moral vacuum but nevertheless in possession of passion and taste. ++ Khamul the Easterling He is somewhat insubstantial - can't tell if he is Bactrian or a dromedary. But it might explain this nazgul's strange relationship to water. And Celeborn is the silverhaired, prettyboy trophy husband of the Age. __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

03-09-2006, 12:09 PM	#317
Anguirel Byronic Brand Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The 1590s Posts: 2,778	There. Even if I am defeated, it's something that Mith is cut down at my side. Allow me to fly a banner of blue and silver, just waiting for it to be trampled upon... __________________ Among the friendly dead, being bad at games did not seem to matter -Il Lupo Fenriso

03-09-2006, 12:11 PM	#318
JennyHallu The Pearl, The Lily Maid Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: In my luxury Barrow, snuggled up in a pile of satin pillows, eating fresh fruit. Posts: 1,628	I always felt sorry for Celeborn. He was a great man in his own right, but so eclipsed by his wife, who felt free to run rough-shod over him whenever she pleased. Vote Khamul and support helpless, henpecked, husbands! EDIT: Like mine __________________ <=== Lookee, lookee, lots of IM handles!

03-09-2006, 12:16 PM	#319
Feanor of the Peredhil La Belle Dame sans Merci Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: perpetual uncertainty Posts: 5,517	Celeborn is awesome. He stormed Mirkwood and drove out the baddies, he's supposedly the wisest guy around in the 3rd Age... I like him and don't want to see him go. Khamul, on the other hand, is merely a cronie. Sure, he's got his own name, but he's a minion. No will of his own. No point in keeping him around. ++Khamul

03-09-2006, 12:17 PM	#320
lord of dor-lomin Wight Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: dor-lomin, of course Posts: 167	To counter The Saucepan Man's obvious anti-elf attitude, I vote for + + Khamul __________________ I used to be indecisive. Now, I'm not so sure.