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So is this my last post? Can I just say, it's been an absolute pleasure.
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Closing Day1 / start Night 2
Instead of performing immediately some examinations to find out who’s being infected and who’s not, the Villagers got stuck in discussions on how to actually identify those diseased, and what would be general symptoms that could reveal it. But interestingly enough, from there they went on lengths discussing different approaches on how to vote for it (sic!), and even if everyone should keep personal lists of their suspicions to be read out aloud to others. There were even separate discussions on how the quarantined would do in their seclusion and should they be listened to, or whether they should look for other diseases now that they had started to think of health-issues in the first place.
Even if most of the Day went on with people showing a brave face and acting light-heartedly, it was easy to feel the heightening tensions inside everyone’s heart – well, most everyone. And to the dismay of Húrin, there were even a few minor brawls between some of the people. It was not fitting that people would go after each other under his roof. Especially Andróg's abrasiveness soon started to rub many people the wrong way. In the end it did it so badly, that many people seemed to have forgotten that they were searching for physically sick, not mentally repellent people. But when there in the end was a vote – against Húrin’s and Huor’s wishes who had pledged for unanimity to the end - Andróg was the one looking to get the vote. As a last straw Andróg pleaded the less powerful of the village to save him for he would protect them against the malice of both Morgoth and the lords. That didn't work, but a wildly protesting Andróg was taken away. ~*~ There were not that many suitable places in the village to hold possibly numerous people in quarantine, as any small hut would not do. Finally, Húrin decided it would be his Hall where the presumed sick would be isolated from others. The healthy people could gather outside or at the barn, but the sick needed the best. “They will still be our family, kinsmen and friends, for I fear this decision didn't quite save the day for us yet. So let us give them a decent place to suffer the isolation. I do not see any celebrations we’d need the Hall for anyway.” Thus Andróg was locked inside the hall and the door was bolted. It seems many people who wanted him there were right about one thing: he didn’t have the best of the Village in mind. Instead he hated everyone and especially wanted the villagers to drown into the disease. Galadriel55 was Andróg aka. the Cobbler. Dead, yes dead Nogrod – “The Badger”, The Mod (dead on Night1) Quarantined Galadriel55, Andróg, The Cobbler (voted into QT on Day1) Hanging around Thinlómien Legate of Amon Lanc Huinesoron Loslote Pitchwife Kath Lhunardawen Inziladun Kitanna A Little Green Boromir88 Urwen Lalaith Brinniel Eönwë Macalaure Rikae Rune Son of Bjarne THE Ka Satansaloser2005 Shastanis Althreduin It’s now Night 2 Nightly folks, do your worse / best. The rest, try to sleep if you can. NB. The characters of the narrations will follow their personalities and commitments based on the legendarium, not the actions or words of the players in the game whom they are paired with. The game you play just directs their destinies and thus creates the narrative.
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Day2
In the morning the Villagers found the Chieftain of Haladin leaning backwards on the stairs of the Great Hall, staring emptily nowhere in particular, pale and sweating, breathing heavily.
“They came to me at Night…”, Haldir forced himself to speak as he saw his father’s face leaning over him. “They took me by surprise and there were too many of them… they blindfolded me and they bit me… they made cuts in me with knives and… they… they licked the wounds…” His voice failed for a moment. “It was a nightmare…” “Haldir!” Glóredhel ran forwards from the crowd but fell trembling on her knees. Hareth tried to wrestle her father away from her brother. “You must stay away from him! Father do you hear me!” With the help of Huor’s strong hands they managed to draw the sobbing old man away from his son and heir. Back in the crowd Morwen hushed Túrin to go and take little Brandir away: “Just go and don’t let him any near his grandparents, please Túrin! You like Brandir, right? It is for his own good he stays away from there! Be a big boy now, go!” As both Halmir and Glóredhel had been moved farther away from poor Haldir, and little Túrin did take care of Brandir pulling him away from the circle around his grandfather, Húrin stepped forwards. “These are evil tidings. So it’s not only an Evil Breath spreading – there are some cursed people behind it spreading it on purpose! People strong enough to overpower uncle Haldir together” There was a moment of total silence. A short warble of a chaffinch felt like mockery in their ears. A voice from another world. “Let’s pull him in to the Hall, but be careful!” Húrin added, looking to his household staff. Looking then around the crowd he added sternly: “We’ll do it”. With that also blind Ragnir nodded. He knew his masters call. “No, no, godchild…” Haldir murmured under heavy breath. “Don’t you anyone risk yourselves. Your destinies lie higher than withering away in this little village.” He managed a thin smile, even if it wasn’t exactly reassuring, if that was what it was meant to be. “I can creep or crawl in… if you just open the door.” With that he started slowly turning around trying to get on all fours. Húrin hesitated, but then nodded to his servants, and Sador hurried to open the heavy door to the Hall. The people watched silently by as Haldir crawled slowly up the few stairs hissing and puffing, clearly in great pain and looking far too weak to make it – but still he did it. There were tears of compassion in everyone’s eyes when Sador finally closed the door after Haldir had disappeared inside. It took some time for Húrin to gather himself, but in the end he managed to steady his voice: “Come, eat and drink in the barn to strengthen yourselves. We have a long Day ahead of us.” ~*~ Dead, yes dead Nogrod – “The Badger”, the Mod (dead on Night1) Quarantined Galadriel 55 – Andróg, the Cobbler (voted into QT on Day1) Rikae – Haldir, formerly healthy person (infected by the shady Infectors on Night2) Hanging around Thinlómien Legate of Amon Lanc Huinesoron Loslote Pitchwife Kath Lhunardawen Inziladun Kitanna A Little Green Boromir88 Urwen Lalaith Brinniel Eönwë Macalaure Rune Son of Bjarne THE Ka Satansaloser2005 Shastanis Althreduin It is now Day2. The word is free.
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The Sweetest Spoiler
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Well, at least neither of them were the ranger.
Sigh. Now to examine the mess from yesterDay.
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As a quick reference...
Lhuna -> Lhuna Rikae -> Brinniel G55 -> Rikae Boro -> Pitchwife Urwen -> G55 Pitchwife -> Brinniel (2) Kath -> G55 (2) Shasta -> Pitchwife (2) Kitanna -> Pitchwife (3) Inzil -> G55 (3) Lottie -> G55 (4) Greenie -> Macalaure THE Ka -> Brinniel (3) Eönwë -> Urwen Rune -> Brinniel (4) Lommy -> G55 (5) Huines -> G55 (6) Legate -> Brinn (5) Macalaure -> Brinn (6) Brinniel -> G55 (7) Sally -> Brinn (7) (after "ranger reveal")
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After Rikae? My guess is, the wolves thought Rikae looked so innocent after the G55 fight - it's doubtful the cobbler went full tilt after someone they thought could be a wolf - that she wouldn't provide much cover for them. Semi-known innocents can be really powerful, after all.
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Alas, poor Rikae. Please think nice thoughts at us from the Quarantine Thread! (With G55... yikes.) I... honestly can't remember who they interacted with, other than the Cobbler, but hopefully someone can turn up a lead there.
I spent... must have been two, three hours during the Night (totally not when I was meant to be working, ahem) combing through Day 1 to try and sort out what the G55 Cobbler reveal... uh, revealed. Obviously Rikae is right there in the middle of the timeline, but I think I mostly looked at the implications for other people, so it will hopefully still be helpful. Once again I have to get to bed, so I'll try for another overview of The Day So Far when I get back. --- Wow! That was quite a rollercoaster ride. I definitely didn't see Cobbleradriel (Cobbler55?) coming; I think that's because my wolf-lean was initially based on her as part of a Pitch-G55 pack, which doesn't make much sense for a Cobbler. Now that we know what she was, I want to go back and reread her part in all the events of yesterDay. I'm thinking of the whole GLP thing, and her attacks on Rikae; then I want to look at the Brinn-wagon, and the Cobbler55 lynch, because who moved when on those should be instructive. Since I once again have to leave just after Deadline, I'm writing this overNight, so end of Night/early posts might obsolete some of it. [b]The GLP[b/] (Down to page 2) It seems pretty clear G55 brought up the no-vote/fake-vote idea specifically to derail the day. But Legate picking it up and running with it can't have been part of the plan (unless she knows him really well), which still inclines me against suspecting him. Pitch, though… I'm still not convinced by his switch of the blame for the idea from G55 to Legate. I'm not going to impart PitchWolf with supernatural Cobbler-spotting talents, but as I think I said yesterday, he could have been trying to move the focus specifically onto Legate, not off G55. Looking back, it's striking how much time G55 spends derailing the discussion. On page 2, she wanders off onto QT tactics, potential roles we didn't use, a 'pretend therapy session'... nothing really got traction other than the fake-votes. The Rikae attack (Post-Night edit: doesn't look like I considered Rikae so much as how people talked about the fight, so most of this should. Still stand.) This starts around #127 (G55)/#128 (where Rikae very calmly explains that they just made a mistake). G55 is quite clearly stirring by #137 (which starts with 'Fight! Fight!', and includes her ignoring that Rikae has already explained twice). But… nobody seems to jump onto either side of the fight. Lottie and Ka both say mild things about Rikae not being suspicious, but not attacking G55. Lommy actually IDs G55 as a possible cobbler, but doesn't mention the brewing fight. Then we hit #147, where G55 opens a full broadside on Rikae. Lottie comes back with suspicions of G55's motives, but not obviously pro-Rikae (and as she says, "I honestly don't really see the motivation for a [G55] ordo to devote this much energy towards a suspicion that isn't really built on much of anything". #163: Pitch suspects Rikae (for suspecting him), but then 'paradoxically' flips and says both they and G55 sound innocent. If PitchWolf did suspect G55 as cobbler (by this point, Lommy had already suggested it, so the idea was out there), then trying to calm the argument and swing opinion against Rikae would be a clever move. Greenie then comments on the argument, and is anti Chaotic G55. Doesn't read particularly wolfish. Then Mac comes in and says he doesn't know how it all blew up… well, we know that now! Like others, he seems more focussed on calming things down than pinning blame on either of them. Greenie again comes in and sees G55 as a wolf or frustrated ordo… and then, by #195, as Shasta says, the argument has played itself out. The fact that so few people commented on it as it was ongoing surprises me - it felt like such a big thing! But it was mostly just a vocal Cobbler doing her best to incite a flame war. Okay, that's it for the direct Cobbler55 stuff; on to the lynch. The Brinn-wagon As I said yesterDay, I didn't know where this came from, and didn't trust it one bit. Let's see if that changes: (Note: because this got so incredibly long, I'm going to set it in a quote-box. I'll put my takeaways underneath for people who don't want to scour the whole post every time they look back at the start of the Day.) Quote:
The G55 Lynch Since we all know what she was up to, hopefully this will be a bit shorter! -Urwen: voted out of stated spite. -Kath: over her passing the blame to Legate on the fake-votes, and the fight with Rikae. -Inzil: For information (on Legate, Pitch, and Rikae) and because there's no-one else on the block he wants to lynch. -Lottie: Lynching for information (on Pitch, I believe) and because she thinks she's a wolf. -Lommy: voted 'to make this interesting' (by keeping G55 at +1 over Brinn, I think) -Huinesoron: suspected Pitch-G55 pair, voted for the one who was on the block and to break the Brinn-wagon. -Brinn: Explicit self-protection. Conclusions? Well, obviously I think the arguments against G55 are stronger (to say the least) than those against Brinn. They were also broadly agreed on, particularly the idea that something was up in the GLP, whereas the only agreement in the Brinn voters seems to have been 'she's quiet… too quiet', with other reasons added on at will to justify that unease. The one that jumps out on this lynch list is once again Lommy. I would dearly love to know what 'make this more interesting' meant, because to my mind, voting for one of the top two suspects (and the one who already had the most votes up to a minute before) is the opposite of 'making it interesting'. --- Just checking for cross-posts... looks like Zil is linking Rikae's death to the Brinn-wagon. Hope there's something in here you can use! hS Last edited by Huinesoron; 05-07-2020 at 04:19 AM. Reason: Rikae's pronouns; hope I caught them all. |
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YesterDay was certainly interesting. G55 didn't stay alive long, but she certainly helped cause some chaos. And now Rikae is stuck with her!
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A lot to unpack, but that could have gone much worse than how it turned out. First thought is it must be a cruel wolf pack to put G55 and Rikae together in the QT after their arguments yesterday.
2nd thought is there wasn't a whole lot of talk about how the QT voting will turn out. With the cobbler being there and holding the tiebreaker, we can't trust the QT vote at all today. It's going to be another nerve-wracking DL. Getting something to eat, will return with a look at the Brinn votes yesterday, and Rikae's last post warning about a possible "anti-Brinn wagon" Rikae Post 245 Quote:
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So Lalaith was the only person who didn't vote, and she only posted twice, the last one about six hours before deadline. We can probably assume she wasn't around at the deadline. Sally was the only person around at the deadline, and she did vote to save the "Ranger", which doesn't prove her innocence - a Sallywolf might have simply thought she had no choice but to vote in that situation - but I would say doesn't look especially suspicious. So it looks like that line of questioning might not be the most fruitful.
I am a little bit side-eyeing the late (but before the "reveal") Brinn voters. If you were a wolf, you'd probably rather keep the loud, distracting player who is haring after someone not in your pack than keep the quieter player who isn't going to help you hide as much. Specifically, Mac, Legate, and Rune. Greenie mentioned yesterDay that Mac's analysis post of Brinn reads like someone talking themselves into suspecting someone else, which most often happens when a wolf is looking for a reason to suspect an innocent. So I definitely don't trust him at this point. I think it's very interesting that Legate really didn't seem interested at all in the G55-Pitch options at the deadline yesterDay. In his last post before voting, he throws out Brinn, Kit, and Greenie as options, and then votes the only viable candidate there, but doesn't really talk about the other choices at all. It's not a huge thing, but it does kind of ping my radar as something a wolf might do if he wants to steer the vote a little bit, but doesn't want to look suspicious and isn't as invested as he would be if a wolf were actually in danger. Finally, Rune's vote post: Quote:
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Oh I'd so love to be a fly on the wall of the QT now.
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On another note, Steve's vote was odd, to say the least. It's natural to have been frustrated by Urwen's lack of reasoning (I was), but there was no chance she would be lynched.
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Well, sure. But in this case I think there were better options.
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^my summary of yesterDay But hey, quite a nice result after all! When I first saw Gal's reveal I was like "I can't deal with this right now", then I thought "but I gotta, and I gotta give her the benefit of doubt", then I fervently wished there would be enough votes to lynch Brinn instead but turns out it was okay this way. And in hindsight, it makes sense. But I already see people talking as if the bandwagon against Brinn is a sign of her innocence? No??? If the wolves were trying to orchestrate an innocent lynch yesterDay, it could have just as well been Gal, who they also knew wasn't one of them. As for Rikae - I guess she just seemed overall defensive and her touchy reactions to being accused by Gal could have been interpreted as signs iof giftednes? But it'd be worth it to look at her posts to look at "seer dreams" the wolves may have caught on. Ok, that was first thoughts. Now I will actually read what you guys have said so far toDay and comment on that...
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I imagine we will spend this day 2 scrutinising voting patterns, at least I see little in G55 behavior to warrant significant analysis. Besides the big bust up with Rikae, she seems to have mainly thrown a few non-committal comments about.
She turned on Legate when he picked up on her idea, had a little banter with Lommy about day 1 tactics, discussed the merits of cobbler hunting with Kath and challenged Brinniel for suspecting her. Wasn't that about it? Rikae seems like an obvious choice, having been in a public spat with a traitor and under all circumstances a capacity they would not want around, so we seem to have unadventurous and downright boring wolves. I didn't look to closely on Rikae's post yesterday, but they seem to warrant a bit closer scrutiny. |
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I don't think Brinn's innocence is proven by any means, but I do think that the vote patterns look (to me at least) very much like wolves choosing between two "innocents". I also think that the wolves would probably have rather lynched Brinn over G55, assuming neither was a packmate. I don't think they were trying to "orchestrate an innocent lynch" - I think, based on the overall tone of the late voters, that it came down to two options, neither of whom was a wolf. No one felt like a wolf nervously trying to avoid lynching a packmate without overtly defending them, or anything like that.
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Also, Zil has just made me raise a big eyebrow in his general direction. *ping* (No, Mac, I'm not going to stop it!)
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Ok then. Obviously Gala considered Rikae to be innocent. In fact, by the fairly spirited way she went after them, she likely thought they were not just innocent, but gifted. What set her off against them was an error in a comment about me. Maybe she thought Rikae was the seer, dreamt of wolf-me (No, I’m not a wolf, but she Gala doesn’t know that) and tried to get me lynched by exaggerating what little could be found that early into Day1? Now Rikae is dead. Did the wolves follow Gala’s judgement and thought them gifted? I don't see it, unless maaybe if Brinn is indeed a wolf and the way Rikae suspected her set them off. Not gonna put too many eggs into that basket, though.
Why Rikae then, just because after yesterDay they'd look the most innocent of all toDay and thus least likely to be lynched? Possibly, but if so, our wolf pack is boring. ![]() Unless... I'm being framed. By the exact thinking above, a mewolf would have reason to think Rikae really is the seer. If the wolves are preparing my head for the chopping block, I have to raise my eyebrow at those who suddenly suspected me near the deadline, since this would very much play into their hands/paws. *coughgreeniecough* *tinfoilhatting intensifies* ![]() And while I'm already being paranoid... Quote:
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Service announcement unrelated to anything else in the game
Folks, can we please refer to Rikae as they/them/their? Thank you.
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Sure of that? I thought those lynched carried seniority over Night-kills.
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But had I been able to and not already voted, when I read Steve's vote I thought I would be very tempted to do the same thing. I thought Urwen's vote was unsporty and even though G55 turned out cobbler, I had same exact reaction as Steve's. Looked like Urwen had no interest in being helpful. If G55 turned out Ranger, I would be feeling a lot different about Steve's throw away.
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Which would basically mean that yes, we will have a Cobbler vote from the QT toDay. And if we get a Wolf toDay, it won't get any better (but it will still be the best we can do). In that sense, lynching Cobbler on Day 1 was a really unfortunate thing, but on the other hand, it would have probably come up some Day anyway - and in that sense, it's better if it happened early rather than later when her decisive vote could be more harmful. (She can still team up with WWs, but that's a different issue and depends wholly on the specific circumstances in those future moments.) The worse part is that it makes any close voting toDay a bit more of a mess, but at least we will know who QT voted for two hours before. So they can't mess up the final voting. Imagine if they had the vote revealed only afterwards, as was once suggested! Ok, but now back to my... erm, longer (?) post. Will post shortly. EDIT: x-ed since the post I'm quoting. In the name of all how much are people posting?!?!?!
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Meh, I got that wrong then.
I need to go to bed now, having a vet appointment in the morning. See yous.
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Re: Hui's summary of G55 - when you put it all together it's pretty obvious how much distraction and havoc she caused, and how fun it must have been for her. (Gotta be a little envious; cobbler is maybe my fave role...) Well played *waves to the qt thread* but I'm glad we got you out of the way this early.
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Right, but they also know that they have to make something up. In my experience, wolves will often have more of a "yeah, hey, you know what, this'll work, I suspect them!" tone than innocents will - and I do think your post about Brinn had a bit of that tone to it.
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It was a very safe move, that kept his hands very clean - but also, really didn't seem motivated by wolf hunting. If Urwen was a baby wolf, I might expect that she would've tried harder to be involved. I definitely understand his point of view - this game means a lot to a lot of us, and I understand the temptation to lynch someone to whom it doesn't mean as much. But in terms of wolf hunting, it wasn't really a strong argument.
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Elaborate, by all means.
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Those "random exceptions" would be situations where none of the "voted to be quarantined" are part of a tie-vote in the QT. In that case the tie-breaker naturally needs to be one Night-Infected (and then similarly, the newest one to join the QT). I have tried to use different terms of these different QT-dwellers, aka. "quarantined" for those voted out ("lynched") and "infected" for those ending there because of the Nightly activity of the Infectors ("Night Kills"). Obviously, I haven't been clear enough. PS. We can't count on getting someone to re-vote just before DL in case of a tie, so it has to be a vote already cast that makes the difference. There are only two people in the QT right now, but in a couple of Days it will be different. So the need for this kind of arrangement should become clearer soon.
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Okay, first - there already so many posts toDay, and some struck me immediately, so...
Huinesoron's first post makes me wonder, because on the one hand, the way he's describing his Nightly activity as scribbling this post - which he clearly did - makes it more likely to be an innocent's endeavour; but on the other hand, I am just returning to my misgivings yesterDay and wondering whether he's exactly not being "helpful" here (perhaps WW with enought time on his hands, can imagine) plus subtly steering the discussion back to the "threesome" - and perhaps to Pitch, his yesterDay's suspect. If Pitch was innocent, it would be a safe way for a Wolf to keep on track with consistent suspicion onto a Day that starts the same way as the previous one: with the Village having nearly zero info. My problem with yesterDay's voting is that half the village (this size) voted for G55 or Brinn, so that says very little. At least, until we know who Brinn is. *glances ominously in her direction* - But black humour aside, that is a fact, and that was the first thing I thought of the moment G55 was lynched and revealed to be a Cobbler. Whatever Brinn is, G55 just bought the WWs an extra Day during which we know nothing. Quote:
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I think I am gonna take a page out of Pervinca's book and 'disappear'.
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Off to work, will be back with what's left of my brains later toDay. And apologies for the lack of name bolding. I don't know how anyone manages to make proper Downs posts on mobile! Edit: crossposted with Urwen. Coming from someone who has committed game suicide more than once in the past, the sooner the better for the village. One less person to worry about. Last edited by Lhunardawen; 05-06-2020 at 05:12 PM. |
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