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Send not to know
For whom the bell tolls, It's trolls for me. ++William (with apologies to John Donne)
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phantom actually summed up all the important things about William, and that's exactly why I like him. However, I can't help my affection for traitors.
++Bill Ferny Say, it's just this Breelander, who'd sell anything to anybody... and he was dealing with the Black Riders! Now, William would have been really cool had he had a contact with the Black Riders... alas, he didn't.
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++William
Can't differentiate between the three trolls as my memory is faint, but they're all awesome.
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Employing the Power of One Skip
decides this round for William. William-4 Bill Ferny-3 Next, an interesting match: Shagrat vs. Grima Wormtongue
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++Grima
The nick Wormtongue alone gets him my vote.
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Now this is what I call a hard choice. Two really nice baddies of about the same rank - they are both disgusting, in a way (I would not prefer to having them as friends, really), however, on the other hand I can still sympathise with them in some way (it would be cool to work with them - i.e. occassionally seeing them, as they'd have their own field of work - in Isengard/Cirith Ungol... although the latter is not a place I would like to be in that badly... Minas Morgul would be far better). They are both interesting characters, and really good villains.
Hmm... I have to choose yet ![]()
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++Wormtongue
Because unlike an orc, he chose his lot in life.
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Grima is a corrupting snake who let his master work through him; although, I am sure that he is not without his talents of corruption.
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Shagrat (or his chum Gorbag) could have made for one of the
Professor's semi-throwaway stories (no doubt uncovered in a philological investigation into the origin of orcish) or perhaps as part of a "Concerning Orcs" section at the end of LOTR. Perhaps something like the bit on the Druedain in Unfinished Tales. Then again one can imagine a chronicler in Gondor penning a revisionist "Grima's Tale" with a sympathetic backstory of unrequited love, working to save Rohan from inevitable destruction, etc. Hmm. + + Shagrat. Who would have made mincemeat of The Great Goblin if he had been able to get back to freelance gangsterism (just like the good old days with Gorbag). ![]() ![]()
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I hate quislings with an undying passion, so...
++Wormtongue
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++Gríma
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In a close contest Wormy
sneaks his way past the noble Shagrat. Grima Wormtongue-4 Shagrat-3 Next: Last chance for an orcsee to advance: Morgoth Bauglir vs. Azog
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No contest...
++Melkor
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Even if Azog is the most despicable orc ever, Morgoth deserves the winning title.
++Morgoth
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Well, for dwarf haters (not that I'm one) I
even find the petty dwarves rather sympathetic: + + Azog
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++Morgoth
Because he was, after all, the "father" of all the orcs.
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Time extended for more voting.
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++Azog
Come on, Morgoth is so cliché...
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Things become clichés because they work so well. No bad idea can become a cliché.
![]() ++Melkor Although, I must say a Dark Lord is a pretty boring cliché. But I like him in the Ainulindalë. Besides, "Melkor" is just an awesome name. Azog... he's just nothing special. But I will not be delighted if Melkor wins this whole competition. He's too boring for that. ![]()
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++Azog
A Great Orc he is. I find it interesting that he knew how to inscribe Dwarf-runes and had spare change in a familiar currency to throw at the beggar Dwarves.
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And that's exactly why I was not voting him.
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Azog put up a heady struglgle
against The Master of Disaster but lost on a tiebreaker! If only Legate of Amon Lanc had voted sooner. ![]() Morgoth-4 Azog-4 Now on to the Elite Eight. [B (6) ]Carcharoth vs. Scatha (1) (4) Smaug vs. Sauron (2) (5) Glaurung vs. William (1) (5) Grima Wormtongue vs. Morgoth[/B] (4) Next: Carcharoth vs. Scatha the Worm
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I will have to deviate from voting for dragons and go for...
++Carcharoth There's just not enough info on poor Scatha to make him that interesting.
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Scatha's armour is like tenfold shields, his teeth are swords, his claws spears, the shock of his tail a thunderbolt, his wings... not really there..., and his breath... umm... chilly.
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What they said.
++Carcharoth.
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There does seem to be a surfeit of dragons
(or is it a gaggle)? + + Carcharoth
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This may be unduly influenced by the fact that I read a great fanfic about him once, but whatever:
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What, people!!! You've got to be crazy!!!!! Scatha is the coolest (literally) dragon ever. (Smaug is the hottest. Glaurung, as stated before, is a stupid worm.)
Come on. He has cool name. He was killed by a man from Éotheod, that is, almost Rohirrim. Now tell me about anything as unique as a Rohir killing a Dragon. He lived in the Grey Mountains, but appartently so close to the edge of the Wilderness that it'd make you scream and run for Rivendell. Not that Rivendell would be safe. Rather, you'd run for Lindon. And besides that, his mere teeth caused a murder, which is something not even a whole person can sometimes accomplish, let alone her teeth. So, really. Is there that much about Carcharoth anyway, in contrary to Scatha? He was just a lazy wolf. ++Scatha And P.S. Hey, it's if Skip Spence voted sooner. Or, if Lommy did not vote... hmph... ![]()
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Let it be noted that I strongly object against dumping Scatha just like that. He was one of the best characters in this whole competition, not counting several Orcs who have been already dropped. And don't say he didn't get quite a lot of support in the earlier rounds.
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Like Azog, Scatha has a cool name and is interesting to know about compared to how little is written of him. However, when you get to some of the hard core evil characters it is only right that they step aside.
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If you consider Carcharoth particularly special...
![]() Besides, who was the one to vote Azog instead of Grishnákh, who was certainly as great baddie as Carcharoth (even far better from my personal point of view, but even when being as minimalistic as possible, you have to agree that he reaches Carcharoth's qualities, if nothing else).
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The Red Maw devours another opponent:
Carcharoth-6 Scatha the Worm-1 A fun fact: If you want your pet to grow up as big and strong as the Jaws of Thirst this diet regimen may be required: Quote:
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Shoot, this is going to be hard! I like Smaug a bunch for his talk with Bilbo and for the wonderful adventure that he starts with Thorin. However, just looking at the name Sauron reminds me of how absolutely evil he was, you don't have to even try to think of anything for him. I'll have to think harder on this.
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Btw, should Smaug prevail in this round
it should be noted that Carcharoth has already dispatched two dragons, although if it's Sauron then you have two of Morgoth's favs one-on-one.
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Oops! Accidentally posted twice.
So deleted second post.
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I've always liked Smaug. He was very witty, and I love the acerbic repartee between Bilbo and the rhetorical reptile. Sauron...he's not so witty. Imagine Darth Vader trying to tell a joke.
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Indeed. I have to go for Smaug here. He is very clever and interesting, and he is a Dragon. And a winged one, at that. And I can bet he's going to beat Carcey with no effort.
++Smaug the Golden
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