"Bad Guy" Trivia - Page 8 - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Finwe · 10-04-2003, 12:17 PM

Yes indeed, you are right.

Telchar · 10-05-2003, 10:50 AM

In what land did the Variags dwell?

10-05-2003, 01:28 PM

This is my first time posting, go easy on me [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]
I believe it's Khand, a land lying somewhere beyond (east of) Mordor...

Telchar · 10-05-2003, 04:29 PM

Khand was the answer I was looking for Galahat, that earns you the right to ask the next question, and btw, welcome to the Downs [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

10-07-2003, 09:10 AM

Thanks! Telchar [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Well, here goes nothing:

I am Child of both darkness and light.
At first I prefered the light in me, but I betrayed it, when I was confronted with darkness itself.

I hope that's not too easy..or too flawed for that matter [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Gil-Galad · 10-07-2003, 06:35 PM

Maeglin, he is the son of Eol and Turgons sister(forgot name) and went to Gondolin without fathers permisson and confronted by Morgoth!!!

10-07-2003, 07:30 PM

That is correct!
Proceed [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Gil-Galad · 10-08-2003, 04:38 PM

I have lead a host, yet i didn't
I have slain many kings, yet i didn't
I have protected the greatest, yet i didn't
I have died in the grand city, yet i didn't

Which Bad guy am I?

(very hard! only for expert/intermedite Tolkien fans only!)

[ October 08, 2003: Message edited by: Gil-Galad ]

Finwe · 10-08-2003, 08:01 PM

Gothmog?

Gil-Galad · 10-09-2003, 03:34 PM

state which one

Nilpaurion Felagund · 10-11-2003, 12:33 AM

Gothmog the Lieutenant of the Balrogs?

Estanesse · 10-11-2003, 04:20 AM

Or is it Gothmog lord of Morgul [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

Gothmog Lieutenant of the Balrogs killed at least two kings, Feanor and Turgon and Gothmog lord of Morgul killed none.
Gothmog lieutenant of the balrogs protected Morgoth, Gothmog lord of Morgul protected Sauron who was great but not the Greatest.
The lieutenant of the Balrogs was killed in Gondolin. The lord of Morgul was killed, I think some were at the Battle of the Pelennor fields.

Finwe · 10-11-2003, 08:34 AM

Gothmog Lord of Balrogs.

Gil-Galad · 10-11-2003, 10:58 AM

Esta is right, it was Gothmog, Leitenit of Morgul and Gothmog killed 3 kings, Fingon, Feanor and Turgon. it is your turn

Gwaihir the Windlord · 10-12-2003, 01:56 AM

So... why 'didn't' he kill the three kings, Gil-Galad?

Gil-Galad · 10-12-2003, 08:07 AM

becasue there were 2 Gothmogs mentioned, one being the Balrog and other being the LT of Minas Morgul, the one from Minas Morgul didn't kill 3 kings but Gothmog the Balrog did

Estanesse · 10-13-2003, 01:53 PM

A leader I’m
Strict I was too much
Camp against camp
Big against small
For fear I have no room except one
There I stood high,Proud until the end

Gil-Galad · 10-20-2003, 07:29 AM

Uldor the acursed?

Estanesse · 10-20-2003, 08:08 AM

Nope
*Hint* he is from the third Age?

Telchar · 10-20-2003, 08:15 AM

Castamir?

[ October 20, 2003: Message edited by: Telchar ]

Estanesse · 10-20-2003, 08:25 AM

No
the person I'm looking for is late third age

[ October 20, 2003: Message edited by: Estanesse ]

Gwaihir the Windlord · 10-21-2003, 02:30 AM

Denethor.

Estanesse · 10-21-2003, 03:41 AM

right period wrong answer

Telchar · 10-21-2003, 05:19 AM

Maybe its Saruman? He fits in pretty good!

Estanesse · 10-21-2003, 07:06 AM

He does, but no that’s not the bad guy I’m looking for.

Gil-Galad · 10-21-2003, 07:34 AM

Er-Murazor, the Witch-King?

Telchar · 10-21-2003, 08:23 AM

who is Er-Murazor?

**The Saucepan Man** · 10-21-2003, 10:48 AM

Surely it's Ugluk. He was certainly a strict leader, although there was infighting (camp against camp and big against small) amongst the Orcs he "led". He fears no-one except Saruman, and he stood and fought when the Rohirrim attacked.

Estanesse · 10-21-2003, 12:12 PM

It is almost perfect Sauce, except the bad guy and the part about Saruman.

Hint- take "There I stood high" literal

[ October 21, 2003: Message edited by: Estanesse ]

Gil-Galad · 10-21-2003, 12:16 PM

Er-Murazor was the "human" name for the witch-king, before he became a NAzgul

**The Saucepan Man** · 10-21-2003, 12:29 PM

Shagrat then?

Estanesse · 10-21-2003, 01:07 PM

Indeed, Shagrat is the bad guy.

There was a fight (the Shagrat camp fought against the Gorbag camp) because Shagrat forbid the other orcs to search (and steal that mithril coat) Frodo. Big against small is the fight between Shagrat and Snaga. Shagrat was pretty fearless, until he saw Sam with the one ring. He ran away like a frightened schoolgirl

Telchar · 10-21-2003, 01:20 PM

Hmmm.... I thought that "Er-Murazor" was a name that came from a set of commercial LoTR playingcards which has nothing, what so ever, to do with anything JRR Tolkien wrote...

I plead that the quizroom sticks to what is Written in the books unless anything else is asked for...

A point of view - shared by Telchar...

[ October 21, 2003: Message edited by: Telchar ]

Gil-Galad · 10-21-2003, 04:07 PM

I remember reading about Er-Murazor in many tolkien related books, including silmarillion and the appendices

Telchar · 10-21-2003, 04:18 PM

ok... [img]smilies/redface.gif[/img]

**The Saucepan Man** · 10-21-2003, 08:29 PM

Quote:

I plead that the quizroom sticks to what is Written in the books unless anything else is asked for...

I agree. And I also plead that side discussions be kept to a minimum on the Quiz threads. [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img]

And so to my question:

Which "Bad Guy" was driven mad by internal torment and, in his madness, breached the defences of a well-protected place?

[ October 21, 2003: Message edited by: The Saucepan Man ]

Telchar · 10-22-2003, 01:49 AM

That would surely be Carcharoth when he in pain and rage entered Doriath with a burning Silmaril in his belly.

**The Saucepan Man** · 10-22-2003, 07:11 AM

Ah, I knew that I should have tried to be more vague in my wording. You are of course quite right, Telchar. Please continue. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Telchar · 10-22-2003, 07:30 AM

This bad guy came as promised and expected, they all had so great hope in him, but he availed little in the end.

Gil-Galad · 10-22-2003, 08:20 PM

the witch-King? when he lead the seige on Minas Tirith? he of course failed

10-04-2003, 12:17 PM	#281
Finwe Deathless Sun Join Date: May 2003 Location: The Royal Suite in the Halls of Mandos Posts: 2,609	Yes indeed, you are right. __________________ But Melkor also was there, and he came to the house of Fëanor, and there he slew Finwë King of the Noldor before his doors, and spilled the first blood in the Blessed Realm; for Finwë alone had not fled from the horror of the Dark.

10-05-2003, 10:50 AM	#282
Telchar Stonehearted Dwarf Smith Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Posts: 2,247	In what land did the Variags dwell? __________________ Anar Kaluva Tielyanna.

10-05-2003, 04:29 PM	#284
Telchar Stonehearted Dwarf Smith Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Posts: 2,247	Khand was the answer I was looking for Galahat, that earns you the right to ask the next question, and btw, welcome to the Downs [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] __________________ Anar Kaluva Tielyanna.

10-07-2003, 06:35 PM	#286
Gil-Galad Psyche of Prince Immortal Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Above a Parapet Obvious exits are: North, South, and Dennis Posts: 4,734	Maeglin, he is the son of Eol and Turgons sister(forgot name) and went to Gondolin without fathers permisson and confronted by Morgoth!!! __________________ Love doesn't blow up and get killed.

10-08-2003, 04:38 PM	#288
Gil-Galad Psyche of Prince Immortal Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Above a Parapet Obvious exits are: North, South, and Dennis Posts: 4,734	I have lead a host, yet i didn't I have slain many kings, yet i didn't I have protected the greatest, yet i didn't I have died in the grand city, yet i didn't Which Bad guy am I? (very hard! only for expert/intermedite Tolkien fans only!) [ October 08, 2003: Message edited by: Gil-Galad ] __________________ Love doesn't blow up and get killed.

10-05-2003, 01:28 PM	#283
Galahat Guest Posts: n/a	This is my first time posting, go easy on me [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] I believe it's Khand, a land lying somewhere beyond (east of) Mordor...

10-07-2003, 09:10 AM	#285
Galahat Guest Posts: n/a	Thanks! Telchar [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] Well, here goes nothing: I am Child of both darkness and light. At first I prefered the light in me, but I betrayed it, when I was confronted with darkness itself. I hope that's not too easy..or too flawed for that matter [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

10-07-2003, 07:30 PM	#287
Galahat Guest Posts: n/a	That is correct! Proceed [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

10-08-2003, 08:01 PM	#289
Finwe Deathless Sun Join Date: May 2003 Location: The Royal Suite in the Halls of Mandos Posts: 2,609	Gothmog? __________________ But Melkor also was there, and he came to the house of Fëanor, and there he slew Finwë King of the Noldor before his doors, and spilled the first blood in the Blessed Realm; for Finwë alone had not fled from the horror of the Dark.

10-09-2003, 03:34 PM	#290
Gil-Galad Psyche of Prince Immortal Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Above a Parapet Obvious exits are: North, South, and Dennis Posts: 4,734	state which one __________________ Love doesn't blow up and get killed.

10-11-2003, 12:33 AM	#291
Nilpaurion Felagund Scion of The Faithful Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The brink, where hope and despair are akin. [The Philippines] Posts: 5,312	Gothmog the Lieutenant of the Balrogs? __________________ フェンリス鴨 (Fenrisu Kamo) The plot, cut, defeated. I intend to copy this sig forever - so far so good...

10-11-2003, 04:20 AM	#292
Estanesse Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: somewhere far away Posts: 561	Or is it Gothmog lord of Morgul [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] Gothmog Lieutenant of the Balrogs killed at least two kings, Feanor and Turgon and Gothmog lord of Morgul killed none. Gothmog lieutenant of the balrogs protected Morgoth, Gothmog lord of Morgul protected Sauron who was great but not the Greatest. The lieutenant of the Balrogs was killed in Gondolin. The lord of Morgul was killed, I think some were at the Battle of the Pelennor fields. __________________ Since there is no time like the present, I thought it was time to present the present.

10-11-2003, 08:34 AM	#293
Finwe Deathless Sun Join Date: May 2003 Location: The Royal Suite in the Halls of Mandos Posts: 2,609	Gothmog Lord of Balrogs. __________________ But Melkor also was there, and he came to the house of Fëanor, and there he slew Finwë King of the Noldor before his doors, and spilled the first blood in the Blessed Realm; for Finwë alone had not fled from the horror of the Dark.

10-11-2003, 10:58 AM	#294
Gil-Galad Psyche of Prince Immortal Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Above a Parapet Obvious exits are: North, South, and Dennis Posts: 4,734	Esta is right, it was Gothmog, Leitenit of Morgul and Gothmog killed 3 kings, Fingon, Feanor and Turgon. it is your turn __________________ Love doesn't blow up and get killed.

10-12-2003, 01:56 AM	#295
Gwaihir the Windlord Essence of Darkness Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Evermore Posts: 1,420	So... why 'didn't' he kill the three kings, Gil-Galad?

10-12-2003, 08:07 AM	#296
Gil-Galad Psyche of Prince Immortal Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Above a Parapet Obvious exits are: North, South, and Dennis Posts: 4,734	becasue there were 2 Gothmogs mentioned, one being the Balrog and other being the LT of Minas Morgul, the one from Minas Morgul didn't kill 3 kings but Gothmog the Balrog did __________________ Love doesn't blow up and get killed.

10-13-2003, 01:53 PM	#297
Estanesse Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: somewhere far away Posts: 561	A leader I’m Strict I was too much Camp against camp Big against small For fear I have no room except one There I stood high,Proud until the end __________________ Since there is no time like the present, I thought it was time to present the present.

10-20-2003, 07:29 AM	#298
Gil-Galad Psyche of Prince Immortal Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Above a Parapet Obvious exits are: North, South, and Dennis Posts: 4,734	Uldor the acursed? __________________ Love doesn't blow up and get killed.

10-20-2003, 08:08 AM	#299
Estanesse Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: somewhere far away Posts: 561	Nope Hint he is from the third Age? __________________ Since there is no time like the present, I thought it was time to present the present.

10-20-2003, 08:15 AM	#300
Telchar Stonehearted Dwarf Smith Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Posts: 2,247	Castamir? [ October 20, 2003: Message edited by: Telchar ] __________________ Anar Kaluva Tielyanna.

10-20-2003, 08:25 AM	#301
Estanesse Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: somewhere far away Posts: 561	No the person I'm looking for is late third age [ October 20, 2003: Message edited by: Estanesse ] __________________ Since there is no time like the present, I thought it was time to present the present.

10-21-2003, 02:30 AM	#302
Gwaihir the Windlord Essence of Darkness Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Evermore Posts: 1,420	Denethor.

10-21-2003, 03:41 AM	#303
Estanesse Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: somewhere far away Posts: 561	right period wrong answer __________________ Since there is no time like the present, I thought it was time to present the present.

10-21-2003, 05:19 AM	#304
Telchar Stonehearted Dwarf Smith Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Posts: 2,247	Maybe its Saruman? He fits in pretty good! __________________ Anar Kaluva Tielyanna.

10-21-2003, 07:06 AM	#305
Estanesse Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: somewhere far away Posts: 561	He does, but no that’s not the bad guy I’m looking for. __________________ Since there is no time like the present, I thought it was time to present the present.

10-21-2003, 07:34 AM	#306
Gil-Galad Psyche of Prince Immortal Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Above a Parapet Obvious exits are: North, South, and Dennis Posts: 4,734	Er-Murazor, the Witch-King? __________________ Love doesn't blow up and get killed.

10-21-2003, 08:23 AM	#307
Telchar Stonehearted Dwarf Smith Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Posts: 2,247	who is Er-Murazor? __________________ Anar Kaluva Tielyanna.

10-21-2003, 10:48 AM	#308
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	Surely it's Ugluk. He was certainly a strict leader, although there was infighting (camp against camp and big against small) amongst the Orcs he "led". He fears no-one except Saruman, and he stood and fought when the Rohirrim attacked. __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

10-21-2003, 12:12 PM	#309
Estanesse Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: somewhere far away Posts: 561	It is almost perfect Sauce, except the bad guy and the part about Saruman. Hint- take "There I stood high" literal [ October 21, 2003: Message edited by: Estanesse ] __________________ Since there is no time like the present, I thought it was time to present the present.

10-21-2003, 12:16 PM	#310
Gil-Galad Psyche of Prince Immortal Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Above a Parapet Obvious exits are: North, South, and Dennis Posts: 4,734	Er-Murazor was the "human" name for the witch-king, before he became a NAzgul __________________ Love doesn't blow up and get killed.

10-21-2003, 12:29 PM	#311
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	Shagrat then? __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

10-21-2003, 01:07 PM	#312
Estanesse Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: somewhere far away Posts: 561	Indeed, Shagrat is the bad guy. There was a fight (the Shagrat camp fought against the Gorbag camp) because Shagrat forbid the other orcs to search (and steal that mithril coat) Frodo. Big against small is the fight between Shagrat and Snaga. Shagrat was pretty fearless, until he saw Sam with the one ring. He ran away like a frightened schoolgirl __________________ Since there is no time like the present, I thought it was time to present the present.

10-21-2003, 01:20 PM	#313
Telchar Stonehearted Dwarf Smith Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Posts: 2,247	Hmmm.... I thought that "Er-Murazor" was a name that came from a set of commercial LoTR playingcards which has nothing, what so ever, to do with anything JRR Tolkien wrote... I plead that the quizroom sticks to what is Written in the books unless anything else is asked for... A point of view - shared by Telchar... [ October 21, 2003: Message edited by: Telchar ] __________________ Anar Kaluva Tielyanna.

10-21-2003, 04:07 PM	#314
Gil-Galad Psyche of Prince Immortal Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Above a Parapet Obvious exits are: North, South, and Dennis Posts: 4,734	I remember reading about Er-Murazor in many tolkien related books, including silmarillion and the appendices __________________ Love doesn't blow up and get killed.

10-21-2003, 04:18 PM	#315
Telchar Stonehearted Dwarf Smith Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Posts: 2,247	ok... [img]smilies/redface.gif[/img] __________________ Anar Kaluva Tielyanna.