Gollum Trivia - Page 7 - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Eruanna · 04-29-2003, 04:37 AM

Exactly right Saucepanssss! [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

**The Saucepan Man** · 04-29-2003, 08:09 PM

What did the Woodmen believe Gollum to be?

Sophia the Thunder Mistress · 04-30-2003, 07:57 AM

Quote:

The Woodmen said that there was some new terror abroad, a ghost that drank blood.

nasty creature.

Sophia

**The Saucepan Man** · 04-30-2003, 01:22 PM

Indeed. You are correct, Sophia. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Sophia the Thunder Mistress · 05-02-2003, 12:28 AM

Approximately (fairly rough estimations accepted) how many years passed between when Isildur lost the ring and Gollum found it?

Airehiriel · 05-02-2003, 07:29 AM

2,500 years?

Sophia the Thunder Mistress · 05-02-2003, 08:35 AM

hm... *pondering* little less approximate please...

Anything but Arwen · 05-03-2003, 12:52 PM

2,453....

Mind you, I did look in the Tale of Years...

Sophia the Thunder Mistress · 05-03-2003, 03:40 PM

[img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img] ok... I should have taken it the first time, then... *blushes* I had done the math wrong (why does this seem to be a habit with me?)

Wolf Larson · 05-12-2003, 01:09 PM

9 Days we have waited for your question. I will try one then.

In Bilbo's first story he told of finding the ring what was the answer to Gollum's riddle "This thing all things devours"?

Extra Credit: Tell me the full riddle in a P.M.

Beren87 · 05-12-2003, 02:29 PM

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Extra Credit: Tell me the full riddle in a P.M.

No reason to do that, just post it here. Games should be kept in thread if all possible. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

**The Saucepan Man** · 05-12-2003, 05:19 PM

The answer to the riddle was Time.

But I'll have to look it up to give you the full riddle. Ah yes, here it is:

This thing all things devours:
Birds, beasts, trees, flowers;
Gnaws iron, bites steel;
Grinds hard stones to meal;
Slays king, ruins town,
And beats high mountain down.

Wolf Larson · 05-13-2003, 05:08 AM

Well done. (And the EC was intended to be funny.) You have for the work this: Well done. Go ahead.

**The Saucepan Man** · 05-13-2003, 06:57 PM

What is thought to have happened to Smeagol's people?

lathspell · 05-14-2003, 02:09 PM

They moved over the Mountains, I believe

greetings,
lathspell

**The Saucepan Man** · 05-14-2003, 04:53 PM

Yes, it was thought that they may have fled the Shadow of Dol Guldur ...

... But that's only half of the answer. There is another possible fate ascribed to them. [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img]

lathspell · 05-15-2003, 03:01 AM

They moved over the mountains and of them came the founders of the Shire?

A guess

**The Saucepan Man** · 05-15-2003, 06:07 PM

Yes, but there is still another possible fate ...

**The Saucepan Man** · 05-19-2003, 07:10 PM

Hint: If they didn't flee, what might have happened to them?

Beren87 · 05-21-2003, 05:58 PM

They were massacred? or went more-or-less extinct?

I know where the answer is, I'm just too lazy to look. =P

[ May 21, 2003: Message edited by: Beren87 ]

**The Saucepan Man** · 05-22-2003, 06:17 AM

Correct, Beren. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] I believe it's in one of the footnotes to the chapter on Sauron searching for the Ring in the UT.

Beren87 · 05-22-2003, 08:04 PM

Go me. =P

Why did Gandalf think Gollum may be uneeded after their search for him was initially unsuccesful?

arcticstorm · 05-02-2005, 04:50 PM

He thought of a test by which the ring could tell if it was the 1 ring which after research he decided was to throw it in fire.

Lindolirian · 05-02-2005, 04:57 PM

Beren87 hasn't been online for four months and the question is two years old. You can probably just go ahead and take the question.

arcticstorm · 05-02-2005, 07:29 PM

ok,
How many fellowship members did Gollum probably come in contact with directly, and name them.

**The Saucepan Man** · 05-02-2005, 07:40 PM

I cannot resist trying an answer:

Aragorn - who captured him;
Gandalf - who questioned him;
Legolas - who guarded him;
Frodo - who was guided by him;
Sam - who quarreled with him.

So 5 of the 9?

arcticstorm · 05-02-2005, 07:59 PM

correct, your question

**The Saucepan Man** · 05-03-2005, 06:04 PM

Thanks arcticstorm.

Name two unusual experiences shared by Thorin Oakenshield and Smeagol.

Firefoot · 05-03-2005, 06:14 PM

Both were imprisoned by the Elves of Mirkwood and both had their most precious posession stolen from them by Bilbo (Thorin - Arkenstone, Gollum - the Ring).

**The Saucepan Man** · 05-03-2005, 06:17 PM

Startlingly prompt and spot on!

Well done, Firefoot. The thread is yours.

Firefoot · 05-03-2005, 06:46 PM

Thank'ee.

Often times the only way to control Gollum was with violence (physical or otherwise), or, more often, the threat of it. List six of these times. (Kudos and a cookie to anyone who can come up with ten - the number I found - or more!

)

mormegil · 05-06-2005, 01:05 PM

Okay I think I have enough.

1. Aragorn when he captured him

2. Sauron torture into compliance

3. Sam threatening on Mt. Doom

4. Frodo in the Taming of Smeagol on Emyn Muil

5. Anborn capturing him at the forbidden pool

6. Faramir Threat of death while in Gondor if he leaves Frodo (more psychological in nature)

7. Gandalf putting the fear of fire in him while interrogating.

8. Sam in fighting him in Shelobs lair.

I can't remember right and I don't have time to look it up but there may have been some threat or mistreatment by his family to get him to leave. Also I can't remember for certain but possibly in the hobbit. I would like to know of your findings.

Firefoot · 05-06-2005, 02:20 PM

Good job!

Other examples I had in mind were:

Frodo threatening Gollum with the Ring before the Black Gate that he could make Gollum cast himself from a precipice or into fire.

Frodo threatening Gollum at Henneth Annun to make him choke on the fish bones.

Bilbo "threatening" him in the Hobbit - he didn't actually make a threat but Gollum became subdued at the sight of the drawn sword nevertheless.

I didn't have the one with Sam on Cirith Ungol, though.

mormegil · 05-06-2005, 06:24 PM

As is well known our good friend Samwise Gamgee despised Gollum and gave him many unfavorable names. I was able to find at least 11 distinct names that Sam called Gollum. Out of these 11 I would consider 6 names to be easy and 5 to be difficult to find. If you can name 7 at least that is good enough, however I do want at a minimum 2 of the difficult names. Remember they are actual names not just mean things said about or to Gollum.

Holbytlass · 05-08-2005, 07:32 AM

Here's what I found (my eyes are burning!!)
Gollum, Smeagol, Stinker, Slinker, Mr. Gollum, old noser, villian, stinking thing,
poor wretch, nasty creature. I'm not sure if the last two count because Sam was talking to some one else when he called Gollum these.

mormegil · 05-08-2005, 12:42 PM

I'll count it. My list is as follows

Footpad
Stinker
Slinker
Villian
It
Creature (3 times w/ different adjectives i.e. nasty trecherous, dratted, trecherous murderous)
Wretch
Old Noser
False (Gray area on this one if it's an actual name or not)
Gobbler
Thing

Your turn

Holbytlass · 05-08-2005, 03:29 PM

What was Gloin jealous about Gollum?

mormegil · 05-08-2005, 09:21 PM

Do you mean the way in which Gollum was treated better in captivity among Thranduil's people than Gloin was?

Holbytlass · 05-09-2005, 03:51 AM

Exactly, your go...

mormegil · 05-09-2005, 08:22 AM

At one point Frodo prophesied about Gollum. When was it and what did he prophesy?

04-29-2003, 04:37 AM	#241
Eruanna Memento Mori Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Past The Point Of No Return Posts: 1,117	Exactly right Saucepanssss! [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] __________________ "Remember, hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies."

04-29-2003, 08:09 PM	#242
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	What did the Woodmen believe Gollum to be? __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

04-30-2003, 01:22 PM	#244
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	Indeed. You are correct, Sophia. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

05-02-2003, 12:28 AM	#245
Sophia the Thunder Mistress Scent of Simbelmynë Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Aboard Highwind, bound for Traverse Town Posts: 1,780	Approximately (fairly rough estimations accepted) how many years passed between when Isildur lost the ring and Gollum found it? __________________ The seasons fall like silver swords, the years rush ever onward; and soon I sail, to leave this world, these lands where I have wander'd. O Elbereth! O Queen who dwells beyond the Western Seas, spare me yet a little time 'ere white ships come for me!

05-02-2003, 07:29 AM	#246
Airehiriel Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 470	2,500 years? __________________ Can you fathom the mysteries of God? Can you discover the limits of the Almighty? Job 11:7

05-02-2003, 08:35 AM	#247
Sophia the Thunder Mistress Scent of Simbelmynë Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Aboard Highwind, bound for Traverse Town Posts: 1,780	hm... pondering little less approximate please... __________________ The seasons fall like silver swords, the years rush ever onward; and soon I sail, to leave this world, these lands where I have wander'd. O Elbereth! O Queen who dwells beyond the Western Seas, spare me yet a little time 'ere white ships come for me!

05-03-2003, 12:52 PM	#248
Anything but Arwen Wight Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: In my own little world. Its OK, they know me here. Posts: 230	2,453.... Mind you, I did look in the Tale of Years... __________________ The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits! (Dontchya just love my avatar? I got a "Tickle Me Boromir" one too...

05-03-2003, 03:40 PM	#249
Sophia the Thunder Mistress Scent of Simbelmynë Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Aboard Highwind, bound for Traverse Town Posts: 1,780	[img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img] ok... I should have taken it the first time, then... blushes I had done the math wrong (why does this seem to be a habit with me?) __________________ The seasons fall like silver swords, the years rush ever onward; and soon I sail, to leave this world, these lands where I have wander'd. O Elbereth! O Queen who dwells beyond the Western Seas, spare me yet a little time 'ere white ships come for me!

05-12-2003, 01:09 PM	#250
Wolf Larson Pile O'Bones Join Date: May 2003 Location: The Iron Moutians Posts: 23	9 Days we have waited for your question. I will try one then. In Bilbo's first story he told of finding the ring what was the answer to Gollum's riddle "This thing all things devours"? Extra Credit: Tell me the full riddle in a P.M. __________________ In order to gain victory, understanding must be attained.

05-12-2003, 05:19 PM	#252
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	The answer to the riddle was Time. But I'll have to look it up to give you the full riddle. Ah yes, here it is: This thing all things devours: Birds, beasts, trees, flowers; Gnaws iron, bites steel; Grinds hard stones to meal; Slays king, ruins town, And beats high mountain down. __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

05-13-2003, 05:08 AM	#253
Wolf Larson Pile O'Bones Join Date: May 2003 Location: The Iron Moutians Posts: 23	Well done. (And the EC was intended to be funny.) You have for the work this: Well done. Go ahead. __________________ In order to gain victory, understanding must be attained.

05-13-2003, 06:57 PM	#254
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	What is thought to have happened to Smeagol's people? __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

05-14-2003, 02:09 PM	#255
lathspell Regenerating Ringkeeper Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Holland Posts: 757	They moved over the Mountains, I believe greetings, lathspell __________________ 'You?' cried Frodo. 'Yes, I, Gandalf the Grey,' said the wizard solemnly. 'There are many powers in the world, for good or for evil. Some are greater than I am. Against some I have not yet been measured. But my time is coming.'

05-14-2003, 04:53 PM	#256
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	Yes, it was thought that they may have fled the Shadow of Dol Guldur ... ... But that's only half of the answer. There is another possible fate ascribed to them. [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img] __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

05-15-2003, 03:01 AM	#257
lathspell Regenerating Ringkeeper Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Holland Posts: 757	They moved over the mountains and of them came the founders of the Shire? A guess __________________ 'You?' cried Frodo. 'Yes, I, Gandalf the Grey,' said the wizard solemnly. 'There are many powers in the world, for good or for evil. Some are greater than I am. Against some I have not yet been measured. But my time is coming.'

05-15-2003, 06:07 PM	#258
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	Yes, but there is still another possible fate ... __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

05-19-2003, 07:10 PM	#259
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	Hint: If they didn't flee, what might have happened to them? __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

05-21-2003, 05:58 PM	#260
Beren87 Master of the Secret Fire Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Between fire and ice, death and life Posts: 2,241	They were massacred? or went more-or-less extinct? I know where the answer is, I'm just too lazy to look. =P [ May 21, 2003: Message edited by: Beren87 ]

05-22-2003, 06:17 AM	#261
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	Correct, Beren. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] I believe it's in one of the footnotes to the chapter on Sauron searching for the Ring in the UT. __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

05-22-2003, 08:04 PM	#262
Beren87 Master of the Secret Fire Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Between fire and ice, death and life Posts: 2,241	Go me. =P Why did Gandalf think Gollum may be uneeded after their search for him was initially unsuccesful?

05-02-2005, 04:50 PM	#263
arcticstorm Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Johnson Bible College: Knoxville, TN Posts: 464	He thought of a test by which the ring could tell if it was the 1 ring which after research he decided was to throw it in fire. Last edited by arcticstorm; 08-24-2005 at 07:10 PM.

05-02-2005, 04:57 PM	#264
Lindolirian World's Tallest Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Where the view is long Posts: 2,117	Beren87 hasn't been online for four months and the question is two years old. You can probably just go ahead and take the question. __________________ 'They say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end."

05-02-2005, 07:29 PM	#265
arcticstorm Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Johnson Bible College: Knoxville, TN Posts: 464	ok, How many fellowship members did Gollum probably come in contact with directly, and name them. Last edited by arcticstorm; 05-06-2005 at 01:46 PM.

05-02-2005, 07:40 PM	#266
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	Oh, good question! I cannot resist trying an answer: Aragorn - who captured him; Gandalf - who questioned him; Legolas - who guarded him; Frodo - who was guided by him; Sam - who quarreled with him. So 5 of the 9? __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

05-02-2005, 07:59 PM	#267
arcticstorm Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Johnson Bible College: Knoxville, TN Posts: 464	correct, your question Last edited by arcticstorm; 05-06-2005 at 01:46 PM.

05-03-2005, 06:04 PM	#268
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	Thanks arcticstorm. Name two unusual experiences shared by Thorin Oakenshield and Smeagol. __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

05-03-2005, 06:14 PM	#269
Firefoot Illusionary Holbytla Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 7,547	Both were imprisoned by the Elves of Mirkwood and both had their most precious posession stolen from them by Bilbo (Thorin - Arkenstone, Gollum - the Ring).

05-03-2005, 06:17 PM	#270
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	Startlingly prompt and spot on! Well done, Firefoot. The thread is yours. __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

05-03-2005, 06:46 PM	#271
Firefoot Illusionary Holbytla Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 7,547	Thank'ee. Often times the only way to control Gollum was with violence (physical or otherwise), or, more often, the threat of it. List six of these times. (Kudos and a cookie to anyone who can come up with ten - the number I found - or more! ) Last edited by Firefoot; 05-04-2005 at 01:41 PM.

05-06-2005, 01:05 PM	#272
mormegil Maundering Mage Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 4,651	Okay I think I have enough. 1. Aragorn when he captured him 2. Sauron torture into compliance 3. Sam threatening on Mt. Doom 4. Frodo in the Taming of Smeagol on Emyn Muil 5. Anborn capturing him at the forbidden pool 6. Faramir Threat of death while in Gondor if he leaves Frodo (more psychological in nature) 7. Gandalf putting the fear of fire in him while interrogating. 8. Sam in fighting him in Shelobs lair. I can't remember right and I don't have time to look it up but there may have been some threat or mistreatment by his family to get him to leave. Also I can't remember for certain but possibly in the hobbit. I would like to know of your findings. __________________ “I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo. "So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us.”

05-06-2005, 02:20 PM	#273
Firefoot Illusionary Holbytla Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 7,547	Good job! Other examples I had in mind were: Frodo threatening Gollum with the Ring before the Black Gate that he could make Gollum cast himself from a precipice or into fire. Frodo threatening Gollum at Henneth Annun to make him choke on the fish bones. Bilbo "threatening" him in the Hobbit - he didn't actually make a threat but Gollum became subdued at the sight of the drawn sword nevertheless. I didn't have the one with Sam on Cirith Ungol, though.

05-06-2005, 06:24 PM	#274
mormegil Maundering Mage Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 4,651	As is well known our good friend Samwise Gamgee despised Gollum and gave him many unfavorable names. I was able to find at least 11 distinct names that Sam called Gollum. Out of these 11 I would consider 6 names to be easy and 5 to be difficult to find. If you can name 7 at least that is good enough, however I do want at a minimum 2 of the difficult names. Remember they are actual names not just mean things said about or to Gollum. __________________ “I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo. "So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us.” Last edited by mormegil; 05-06-2005 at 06:25 PM. Reason: Clarification

05-08-2005, 07:32 AM	#275
Holbytlass Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: May 2003 Location: The Party Tree Posts: 1,042	Here's what I found (my eyes are burning!!) Gollum, Smeagol, Stinker, Slinker, Mr. Gollum, old noser, villian, stinking thing, poor wretch, nasty creature. I'm not sure if the last two count because Sam was talking to some one else when he called Gollum these. __________________ Holby is an actual flesh-and-blood person, right? Not, say a sock-puppet of Nilp’s, by any chance? ~Nerwen, WWCIII

05-08-2005, 12:42 PM	#276
mormegil Maundering Mage Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 4,651	I'll count it. My list is as follows Footpad Stinker Slinker Villian It Creature (3 times w/ different adjectives i.e. nasty trecherous, dratted, trecherous murderous) Wretch Old Noser False (Gray area on this one if it's an actual name or not) Gobbler Thing Your turn __________________ “I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo. "So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us.”

05-08-2005, 03:29 PM	#277
Holbytlass Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: May 2003 Location: The Party Tree Posts: 1,042	What was Gloin jealous about Gollum? __________________ Holby is an actual flesh-and-blood person, right? Not, say a sock-puppet of Nilp’s, by any chance? ~Nerwen, WWCIII