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03-05-2006, 11:59 AM | #241 |
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I'm here and it seems some people are sure that I'm a wolf. I tell you: if you want to kill an ordo toDay, kill me. Otherwise killing me makes no sense.
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In the case of... well everyone that I have voted for so far in the game (heehee, which basically translates to Nogrod) I was the first person to cast the vote and I did so under my own suspicions. I have yet to 'disappear' and cast my vote yet toDay, so any pattern of activity which you accuse me of appears to be pure conjecture. In any case I would like to hear exactly how you came by that opinion other than the Thinlo-theory which is quite green. If that is where you formed you "votes most popular" point, I'd comment on your pointer finger being a quick-draw. **Cross-posted with Thinlo, though our posts don't have anything to do with one another, its decorum to point these things out.
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Here’s my suspicion hierarchy, if you will, of my fellow villagers right now. Probably Innocent Roa_Aiofe – because she only voted second for Ka Anguirel – because he was the one to bring up that anvil hint when it otherwise would have gone unnoticed Not Sure Nogrod – like the title would imply, I’m really not sure… he just seems to play like an innocent. Maybe this cleanliness should make me more suspicious, but right now there are better places to turn my attentions. Mildly Suspicious JennyHallu – because she does tend to stay in the “middle zone” Naria – hinting at being a Gifted is serious and risky business. She could actually be a Gifted, or she could be a wolf pretending to be one. Valesse – for her absence Eonwe – because he just seems to go along with whatever Anguirel says Most Suspicious Thinlomien – because of her vote on Day 1, Holby’s vote for her, constant posting, and maybe that little flip-flop, if a flip-flop it indeed was Gil-Galad – for the unexplained vote and nearly total absence I’ll probably vote for Thinlomien, but Gil is also a possibility. Last edited by Encaitare; 03-05-2006 at 12:05 PM. Reason: fixing tags |
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Am I supposed to defend myself?
I can only say: read my posts through and think about them. Most of you won't do that - I know - since I was such a chatterbox on Day 1. - If I was a wolf, would I be babbling so much and being so contradictory? Wouldn't I be a bit more careful with my words? - If I was a wolf, would I bandawagon on the day one? I do know that bandwagoners get most attention the next day. And wolves don't like attention, and insightful attention the least. - If I was a wolf, would I have talked all the Day 1, however bored I was? Wouldn'ät a wolf try not to get so much attention? - If I was a wolf, wouldn't it have been wise for me to vote someone else than Valier or Nogrod yesterday? More innocents would have died, and I could have said "x (the person I voted) was more suspicious to me". I could have been ignoring the situation going on. Or voted earlier if I saw what would happen and then escape the responsibilty and spotlight. (This is assuming that Nogrod is an innocent, which is mathematically probable. Of course that can be said about everyone.) - If I was a wolf, why would I have got frustrated with Eonwe on d1 when he voted totally randomly? Don't wolves like people who don't bother to analyse Sorry, but I have to say that you're looking for a wolf from the wrong place. I hope you realise it before it's too late. For me and for the village. EDIT: cross-posted with Valesse, Enca and Nogrod
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Alright, well my time toDay has run out, how very short it has been. Hopefully I have slaked some of the village's want for my words, though I doubt I did enough to satisfy everyone.
I'm forced to be brief now. Due to Holby's suspicion, Roa's point, and various other people's remarks as well as my own (constantly interupted) musing (seriously, do you think I want to be torn away from the computer?) I'm quite sure to vote for ++ Thinlómien ** Cross posted with Thinlo.
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You make a couple of decent points for your defense, Lommy, but not all of them are so valid.
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Goodness with you people!
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Argh! You're so wrong that it makes me sick! Unfortunately you will probably see it in half an hour.
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My plea: don't kill another innocent today! Don't kill me. I'm just an ordinary victim. If you need explanation for my vote, see my post #231.
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Anyone suggestions?
Lommy is getting lynched, and even if it's just a hunch, I find her more flip--flop than a wolf. Taking Gil out now seems like irresponsible action on our part. We will have to have some reasons for our votes... I'm inclined to take Ang's word for it and go for Enca. Let's not forget Ang's posts now, even Ang left quite a while ago... And I'm still suspecting Naria a bit too. Threatening to reveal a gifted status and then doing nothing over it is suspicious. And using Sleepy's narration that way too... Help!
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Or of course I can hope that if/when you lynch me, you will maybe the next day find something out by analysing the bandwagon.
And I can laugh at your stupidity and hope the best for my fellow innocents.
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03-05-2006, 12:39 PM | #255 |
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Ang has voted for Enca two days in a row. Consistently.
Holby's most suspicious were Naria and Thin (well only two days, even if a seer).
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I'm back! Oh, everything has gotten quite ugly! I believe in Holby's not suspicious list. I'm going to stand by that. After reviewing everything, I no longer think Thin is a wolf. I would like to think Eonwe is, but I'm not sure, and I don't want us to lynch another innocent so:
++Enca I don't trust you. I think you've been twisting our seer's words to say what you want. I also think that you did pick up that hint and that's why Holby is dead. EDIT: Cross posted from 251
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03-05-2006, 12:43 PM | #258 |
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Thinlómien 2 (Valesse, Enca)
Enca 3 (Ang, Thin, Roa) Two of Holby's "innocent" list voted for Enca...
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03-05-2006, 12:44 PM | #259 |
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An update, Touché-man?
EDIT: cross-posted with Nogrod making the post useless
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I have to leave now.
I hope I find myself alive when I come back next Day.
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03-05-2006, 12:48 PM | #262 |
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I am so totally unsure of who to vote for right now. Both Thin and Enca look suspicious to me, but Gil looks far worse...I don't want to cast a useless vote, however. How does the voting stand?
I think it's Enca 2, Lommy 3. Am I wrong? I'm inclined to believe both seem equally suspicious. But if I had to choose which one (if, worst case scenario) both were wolvish, I would rather have around...Lommy's more likely to make her wolvishness obvious. Enca seems more dangerous...I'll wait just a little longer... So many are not voting. EDIT: WOW that xed with a lot of posts...
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03-05-2006, 12:50 PM | #263 |
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If you innocent, Enca, sorry. But if you're wolvish you're far more dangerous. I don't want there to be a risk of a double lynch today.
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So I can't see a reason to vote otherwise. I could try my case Naria, but it would be futile in this situation, and anyhow, she seems to be suspicious only in my eyes, so maybe it's just me seeing ghosts. I trust Roa's opinion alongside Anguirel. As they both vote for Enca, and I can see their point well. So here we go. I just hope our verdict turns out well! ++ Enca
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03-05-2006, 12:52 PM | #265 |
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03-05-2006, 12:53 PM | #266 |
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Enca - Ang Thin - Valesse Thin - Enca Enca - Thin Enca - Roa Enca - Jenny Enca - Nogrod EDIT: Cross posted with Nogrod, twice.
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Times up, Enca will be dead soon.
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Not voted: Gil-Galad, Naria, Eonwe...
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It was Encaitare's turn to die but as they stood in front of the fountain nothing happened. Nobody fell asleep, nothing at all. The villagers realized they would have to do this one on their own. Each of them lifted one of the weapons that had been left for them and began to head towards Encaitare, there was no fear in her eyes only a smirk on her face. As the villagers drew closer she tossed her head back and let out a howl as she began her transformation into a wolf. Most people dropped their weapons and looked on in terror as she moved towards them, she tried to grab the nearest villager but then that voice spoke up again, "You're not supposed to this! Bad girl!"
The blood in the fountain rose and two tentacles of blood lashed out grabbing the wolf around her waist, cutting into her skin. She let out a cry of pain as more tentacles rushed at her, grabbing onto different parts, cutting her flesh and bone. Not a single drop of blood spilled, all of it was taken in by the fountain. The surviviors stared at the scene in horror, the fountain was consuming her. There were crunching noises as it dug into her and finally after what seemed an age it was over. The fountain had eaten her whole. As the villagers looked on, ripples began to form on the surface and then without warning there was an explosion from the fountain, shooting out different parts of Encaitare's body everywhere. It was raining, it was raining Encaitare. Alive JennyHallu - The friendly neighborhood nutcase waving a doomsday sign around Roa_Aoife(i) - Babysitter, the blonde, large chested one that always runs upstairs when she should be running out of the house Nogrod(i) - Post-Structuralist musician Thinlomien(i) - Sculpter specialiazing in making nightmarish birds. Naria(i) - Butcher Gil-Galad - Bell Ringer Anguirel - Herald at arms Eonwe - Gold Miner Valesse - Poultry gender analysist Dead Sleepy Ranger (mod) - Impaled on a cupid's arrow with his head nearly cut off. THE Ka (werewolf) - Moreish Pavlovian Psychologist - Had her legs cut off. Littlemanpoet (innocent) - Traveling minstrel/bard - Had an eye gouged out and his hair ripped off. Valier (innocent) - Cruel Duchess - Had her back snapped and wept tears of blood till death. Witch_Queen (innocent) - Homeless guy - Died due to loss of too much blood through vomitting. Holbytlass (seer) - Governess Encaitare (werewolf) - a scientist who specializes in analyzing small pebbles and other silly things
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And the eight survivors awoke to find a corpse looking at them, only that it wasn't looking, it couldn't be looking for the front of its face was missing. There was no blood, the fountain had taken care of that as usual. The villagers searched around for a while but saw no sign of Naria's face, it was nearly as if it had vanished off the face of this world. But as her cold and lifeless body sat there, back against the fountain the voice of their host spoke up, hearty as ever. "Another innocent dead and I believe we're very close to winding this one up. Who will live, who will die? I don't know... I don't know..." His voice didn't trail into its standard laughter but instead the fountain formed a sort of smirk. The innocents now understood that no matter who won they would lose.
This day was colder than the others, it was frigid in fact. Nobody could tell for sure what this sudden drop in temperature meant but the over-cast day had many people more panicky than usual. Many had died and many more would die as well, blood had been lost and more would be shed soon enough. Each looked at the other with a look of dis-trust. But for all the evil that was present in this place there was one thing that changed it all, from somewhere in the distance a tune could be heard, it was a guitar. Alive JennyHallu - The friendly neighborhood nutcase waving a doomsday sign around Roa_Aoife(i) - Babysitter, the blonde, large chested one that always runs upstairs when she should be running out of the house Nogrod(i) - Post-Structuralist musician Thinlomien(i) - Sculpter specialiazing in making nightmarish birds. Gil-Galad - Bell Ringer Anguirel - Herald at arms Eonwe - Gold Miner Valesse - Poultry gender analysist Dead Sleepy Ranger (mod) - Impaled on a cupid's arrow with his head nearly cut off. THE Ka (werewolf) - Moreish Pavlovian Psychologist - Had her legs cut off. Littlemanpoet (innocent) - Traveling minstrel/bard - Had an eye gouged out and his hair ripped off. Valier (innocent) - Cruel Duchess - Had her back snapped and wept tears of blood till death. Witch_Queen (innocent) - Homeless guy - Died due to loss of too much blood through vomitting. Holbytlass (seer) - Governess Encaitare (werewolf) - a scientist who specializes in analyzing small pebbles and other silly things Naria (innocent) - Butcher
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Wow, Naria pulled an impressive bluff...and a dangerous one. And I think we can thank her for saving our Gifteds another Night. Perhaps this means our wolf doesn't know who the Gifteds are! I'm feeling really positive about our chances of finding the final wolf.
I'd like us to take a closer look at Gil and Eonwe today, as well as Thin (still). I voted for Enca yesterday so as to try to avoid a double lynch (which we can ill afford), and luckily, since I was really unsure of which seemed more wolvish to me, we made the right choice. However, I still don't think Thin is necessarily off the hook. Right now my list stands thus: Probably innocent: Roa, Anguirel, Me Unsure: Valesse, Nogrod Possible wolves: Thin, Gil, Eonwe
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I kind of shared Jenny's optimism yesterday evening (and today RL), but now I admit being quite baffled.
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I didn't interpret it as randomness...but as a reaction to Naria's Gifted-hints in response to your challenges. At least, that's the only way it makes sense to me. And if that was how our wolf was thinking, then Naria's bluff was successful. Hey, it fooled me. I thought Naria was either the Ranger or the Hunter.
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I would keep the first two on the "probably innocent"-list, and then naturally change Jenny for myself. Of the others, I can't say much. Don't knows, in the order of my "least susceptible-hunch" at the moment: Thinlómien seems to dict and contradict... Last night's voterun gave her empathy points, but they sure are not out-from-suspicion -points Jenny plays actively and loud - being not much less aggressive at times than I am. Should probably really look her posts another time to have an opinion. Eonwe has not voted in two nights in a row. Gave explanations in the discussion thread. Very careful player. Have to check him out too again. Valesse seems to play very varied game: sometimes being brief and almost random, sometimes really performing well. RL or wolfishness? Don't know... Gil has explained his last days in the TiGJ too, but as his presence has all the time been quite elusive and rare - and he promised to give his grounds for his Jenny-vote too! Let's see if he produces some! Suspicious... but might be a quiet villager too?
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That far off minstrel had better be something seriously helpful... In any case, I think I'm probably alive today only because of the indirect influence of the Ranger. As it happens, I'm not the remaining Seer. But I'll admit I got uncannily lucky yesterday. I was also, I might as well say, planning to masquerade as a Seer (relying on the real one staying quiet and trusting me) if insufficient movement against Enca was galvanised, and declare her a wolf. Thank Eru it didn't seem to be necessary. So wolf, if we fail to hang you, kill me out of spite, but only if you're seriously low on inspiration. Which, frankly, wouldn't surprise me. I wonder if perhaps we should have a mass-revelation of Gifteds? With three Gifteds, Roa and I semi-proven, and a few Seer dreams, we'll be mostly covered, though overlap will detract from that. At the moment I am inclined to clear myself, Roa (despite the fact she annoyed me by Seer-babbling, she's proved helpful twice, though she ought to be looked at to confirm things), Thinlomien, (Enca was in far too desperate straits to set up her last ally, and she was also cunning for Thinlomien since the beginning), and Gil-Galad. Honestly, lynching the blighter is a waste of time. I am especially suspicious of Jenny, who defended Enca for some time but did not stick to her guns, and, naturally, Valesse, who got trapped in Enca's bandwagon when it looked like Thinlomien might yet be lynched. So...to mass-reveal or not to mass-reveal? That is most certainly the question.
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I'm sorry, I did not mean to seem to be defending Enca. I simply had no particular opinion on Enca and did not want to vote for her on an argument I did not understand.
As for the Gifted-reveal, I'm not sure if that's the way to go or not. I'll wait until more have chimed in to see what's going on. Frankly, I don't agree with your opinion on the harmlessness of Gil-Galad. He has barely posted, and hasn't said anything remotely useful...yet he's survived so long. His behavior seems odd to say the least, and he's left so few clues only a seer's dream could defend or condemn him with any certainty.
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To blame a tongueless cretin is a rather unstylish technique for a struggling wolf, Jenny. I generally prefer to kill them off and then have fun with the ones that talk, when the moon-affliction comes upon me...er...my ancestors...cousins...descendants...fan club...whatever...
I'd be happy to include Gil-Galad in a double-lynch, but to single lynch him is to waste a day. And thus, I'm pretty sure, to condemn myself to death. I am increasingly for the mass revelation. Remember, it's extremely likely that due to the Ranger the Seer will get one more dream-the wolves will have to kill the Ranger instead if the worst comes to the worst. If you consider the situation, it will become clear to you that only a desperate and cornered werewolf would shun its advantages.
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Oh, and about defending Enca. Your apology makes you seem worse in my eyes. Can't you even give an account of yourself, prophetess of doom, rather than swaying with every stray breeze? When I said you defended her but did not stick to your position, it was really the second part that alarmed me.
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So I cannot explain myself without seeming wolvish? If you say I defended her, then voting for her means I did not stick to my guns. I say I did not defend her, which would imply that I had no particular guns to stick to. It seemed more important to me to avoid the double lynch.
And as for the mass reveal, it seemed to me that we have only one wolf, but three gifteds, all hidden from that wolf. This is my second game, dear Ang-with-all-the-reincarnations. My immediate assumption was that keeping them hidden was a better plan. I am willing to admit being wrong, but a single person saying so, no matter the experience, does not, in my mind, an irrefutable argument make. I cannot defend myself against you if a disagreement makes me wolvish. I am only what I am, and if I disagree, or am unsure, I will not keep it to myself like a sneak. If that makes me wolvish, so be it. But I assure you I am not.
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