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I do think that in this game, with the two protective Gifteds, it has to occur to innocents that there should be at least one person setting themselves up as obvious "bait". I did it, BG kind of did it, Nilp claims he did it (all of us with limited success). So I wouldn't be surprised if Rikae decided to make themselves the "bait" for toNight.
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Honestly, looking at this is pretty apparent that Greenie is the stand out.
Literally everyone else voted for Form. My guess is Legate is a Wolf. Greenie is the Seer. Greenie is dying tonight. Unless the Ranger is paying attention and caught what we caught. If the Ranger goes after Nilp and not Greenie... If Nilp is a Wolf then that was a good play to distract the Ranger. If Nilp is the BH imma be mad. |
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So let's assume the wolves don't straightforwardly involve themselves in bandwagons which end up lynching innocents - because they know which bandwagons to avoid - but they will take part in some, especially on D3 when there weren't too many to be of a different opinion. So four wolves making three votes each is 12 votes. I would say it goes something like 40-60 for wolves joining succesful innocent-bandawagons (them voting an innocent who is lynched 40% of the time the most, and nicely hiding behind a non lynched candidate 60% of the time), as a conservative estimate. It could be 1/3 vs. 2/3 as well - which would be even worse from the villagers' POV. Looking at the craziness of D3 voting we might need to bring that percentage to 50-50 as the wolves had no other option but to comply (basically Brinn's complaint could be read as well as a frustrated wolf's cry of "doggone it" than an innocent's). With that ratio we'd have the wolves giving 6 votes to others than the known innocents, so meanwhile the rest of the village (8 people) have given votes to "not-known innocents" only three times! 8 innocent villagers 3 votes each - and only three of those votes have gone to someone else than a now known innocent! ![]() ![]() They really need to pull themselves together now. Quote:
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Naturally, it all could go down a totally different route.
Let's say Nilp is the Seer who panicked - or for some other reason - decided to go on some dashingly daring game? That is not totally out of question. Or maybe Greenie is just a really smart wolf who fools us all? (In that case I'd say she'd deserve victory) Maybe Lommy's lament at the end of D3 - which felt quite convincing - was actually her plot trying to steer away those few who might have suspected her on D4, or at least make them hesitate just enough to save her from the ropes? Or: while my reason keeps reminding me, that Legate is the most believable wolf-candidate, but in the back of my mind there is this nagging voice saying, "Maybe you're wrong? Maybe he's just short on time (as he has said) or something and the rest is just conjecture?". Well, four minutes... ![]()
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I reloaded the living thread as say the red ++Legate and was no way the Wolves lynched her and then realised that was us Dead. I gotta go calm down...
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*throws hands up in the air*
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Welcome, Greenie and Legate!
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The Dead
Boro (Town Recorder) - murdered by pack Night 1 Huinesoron (Villager) - lynched Day 1 Loslote (Villager) - killed by pack Night 2 Nogrod (Villager) - Lynched Day 2 Blind Guardian (Villager) - killed by pack Night 3 Formendacil (Villager) - lynched Day 3 A Little Green (Seer) - kill by pack Night 4 Legate of Amon Lanc (Werewolf) - caught in BH booby trap Night 4 Welcome. Greenie and Legate! Enjoy reading all the hair pulling yesterday the dead was doing about the Living thread ![]()
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WHOA!!!
We were right on both! ![]() But what this means remains to be thought of. Anyway: welcome Greenie and also Legate - and kudos to the Trapper! Take a comfy chair- there is no Spanish Inquisition here. ![]()
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Good job Greenie and Legate!
And the Beast Hunter for ignoring Nilp who I now think is a Wolf. NO wait, I'm confused... Yeah no that works. Nilp may not have been able to protect himself (if he is the BH), but he did kill a Wolf. |
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So Greenie, you dreamed Nilp, Rikae, and Shasta innocent, right? Who was your dream last Night?
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Nilp claimed he WAS the BH, and soft asked for the Ranger to protect him. His trap was always going on someone else. If Huin correct interpreted Greenie's list yesterDay, Nilp is probably one of our three known innocents.
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Welcome to the Halls of Cassandra, Greenie.
I guess welcome, Legate? The protocol on welcoming the evil beasts that prematurely ended our Lives is yet to be established. Perhaps death has cured you of your Curse and you shall now offer us all the information you can. You know, to keep things sporting. ![]()
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Yeah that makes sense. This game is making my head hurt. (And my stomach - it's lunch time and I'm not eating yet!)
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Hi, Greenie! I really hope the remaining innocents spot/spotted your list post... That way we might stand a chance. And hi, Legate! Don't worry, we're all friends here. Though if you feel like telling us who the rest of the pack are, that'd be grand. ![]() hS |
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Is Legate the NW? The wolves get to choose who gets caught in the trap, right? I'd assume they'd pick the NW.
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Wait, that's right, we'd know if he was the NW! Why didn't they pick the NW???
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And with 7 dead. A vote of 4 needs to be achieved to choose a medium.
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(Psst, Boro, you've got a cut-off line in the narration. Second paragraph, starts with 'iddle'.)
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........why would Sally think Greenie was the Ranger? Her Legate vote yesterDay looked pretty Seerish to me. I don't know that I believe this.
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But one wolf down basically buys one more Day. So good. Although we (sic!) could have done this lynching Legate already on D2. ![]() This more or less confirms Nilp is an innocent (unless we read Greenie wrongly) and thus it only remains a question whether Nilp just pulled this all off as just a normal villager, or was he actually the BH who made this nice trap?
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If I'm right about who Greenie dreamed and that Kath and Mac are Legate's packmates, then there's one wolf and one cobbler among:
Sally Brinn Pitch Lommy Although actually, I think the Seer sees the cobbler as an ordo, so the cobbler doesn't HAVE to be among these people. But at least one of them, more if I'm wrong about Kath and Mac, is definitely a wolf.
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My guess is, she doesn't realize the BH is a one hit wonder.
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Also, Mac and Sally have not started talking about "who pushed the lynch away from Legate yesterDay" OR "who did Greenie dream?", and I think any innocent NEEDS to ask those questions asap toDay. I'm already very susicious of Mac, and I'm starting to think Sally might be a wolf or the cobbler.
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Don't be shy! Just walk right in. We don't bite, but offer you a glass of wine and wait until you're ready to tell, how it feels.
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This was Greenie's Seer-post in my mind, and I misremembered: she said she intended to 'read through' Lommy, not Legate. So we may actually have a confirmed second wolf; I certainly hope so! It was indeed Nilp, Rikae, and Shasta innocent.
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Don't worry, Legate-wolf. Nienna* been reading along the whole game and was teasing me about the Dead thread for 48 hours, at least, so I understand in-home betrayal. ![]() *Nienna for the newer Downers (you know, anyone with less than, like, 8 years as a Downer) is Mrs. Formendacil, once a WWer, always a WW-lurker.
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![]() Why don't they learn that is not going to work? It's just a waste of time they'd need to put in reading Greenie's posts to find what hS did so nicely.
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Hello! And thank you for the very warm welcome and cooomfy chairs. Just here to say a quick hi, since I'm about to go to sleep - which means you'll have to wait with your questions for the morning.
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Send Nienna my best regards! (Well if you read this yourself anyway, all the best for the odd summer ahead!)
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Well, we spent all of yesterDay yelling that You, Mac, and Kath were packmates steering the lynch Form's direction, and throwing up our hands when the village just calmly went right along with it.
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