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hard to follow, but Huor, Turgon, and Beren, i don't know if you wanted it on her father or mother's side, but since you didn't specify, i think this will work! Or...
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Yes, that will work. I was thinking great-grandfathers when I wrote it but I put in an extra great. Your turn.
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oh, great grandfathers would be so much easier, but then. Oh well, new question:
Fili's nephew's great grandfathers youngest great nephews grandsons loves brother-in-laws daughters second son! That's a mouthful!
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Fili's nephew's great-grandfather has no great-nephews.
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Woah....johnny! You're right. I meant to say uncle! Woah!it should say:
Fili's uncle's great grandfathers youngest great nephews grandsons loves brother-in-laws daughters second son!
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Elurín?
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It most certainly is! Good work! Your turn!
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Alright, here comes:
Who was the Silver Tree's grandfather's grandson's grandson's grandfather?
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Umm, The Silver Tree?
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Are you referring to the armor of Gondor, the tree itself, or the person?
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Well, it could be the Silver Tree himself, Celeborn of Doriath and Lorien, or it could be Earendil. (The Silver Tree is Celeborn; Celeborn's grandfather was Elmo, Elmo's only known grandson is Celeborn, Celeborn's male grandchildren are Elladan and Elrohir, and their grandfathers are Celeborn and Earendil.)
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The Silver Tree is Celeborn, but you have the wrong persons.
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OK. Well, Celeborn's only listed grandfather was Elmo; Elmo's listed grandsons were Celeborn and his brother Galathil. Galathil was the father of Nimloth, who was the mother of *slaps forehead* Elured and Elurin!! Their grandfathers were Galathil and Beren.
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Beren was the one I was looking for. Please proceed!
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Tar-Aldarion's aunt's great-great-great-uncle's son-in-law's grandmother was ___.
I don't know if the definition of great-uncle is the same all over the world, so I'll clarify: in this puzzle, a great-uncle would be a grandparent's brother. A great-great-uncle would be a great-grandparent's brother. |
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Gilraen?
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Nope.
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Dírhael?
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Not unless he had a sex-change operation.
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Ivorwen?
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Third time's the charm!! You're correct.
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Perky??
You there?
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*Double-bump*
Perky?
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10 Days
Since Perky isn't responding.....
Who is Galadriel's father's wife's daughter's grandfather's youngest brother's son's cousin's son's wife's father's brother's wife?
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Galadriel?
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Alright then:
Who was Gil-Galad's father's niece's husband's mother's cousin's son's stepfather's wife's father?
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"Who was Gil-Galad's father's niece's husband's mother's cousin's son's stepfather's wife's father?"
Gil-Galad-->Fingon-->Idril-->Tuor-->Rían-->Morwen-->Túrin-->Thingol-->Melian--> fatherless? Eru? This is the only one I could come up with. Perhaps I am missing something.
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You're absolutely right. Eru it is.
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NightKnight, you had me questioning my ability to comprehend family trees.
![]() Here's an easy one: How many times did Elfstan Fairbairn's mother's husband's father-in-law meet the maternal great-grandmother of Gondor's 36th king?
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He (Sam) met Ivorwen zero times.
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Sam - yes but the maternal great grandmothers would be Galadriel and Elwing: so Elwing is none but Galadriel would be - hard to say how many exact times but loosely three - in Lorien, in Gondor for the wedding and for a lot of the journey home and at the Grey Havens. Of course he may have seen her again in the Undying Lands....
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You've got it Mithalwen, unless I'm counting the kings wrong. Which may well be the case...
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Well I did try to count but I wasn't sure about counting Elendil & Anarion separately..and had a hunch it was Eldarion... OK here goes... and I really hope I have got this right
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Welcome to the Downs, Mithalwen!
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Are you refering to Barahir, son of Faramir, because i don't think he had cousins either.
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If I could find my copy of the Sil...
Although finding my clothes to pack would be good too...
Aha!! That Barahir does not work, but is the answer Eowyn? Barahir's father was Elboron, cousin to Elfwine, son of Lothiriel, cousin to Faramir, husband to Eowyn. |
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Yes Symestream is right..... a little bit sneaky to choose the most obscure Barahir but I couldn't resist that particularly knotty family tree-let... I was only sorry I couldn't find the exact realtionship of Morwen of Lossarnarch to Imrahil..... since Eowyn/Eomer and Faramir/Lothiriel were themselves distant cousins through that link...
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Who was Elrohir's niece's grandfather's wife's mother? Both answers, please.
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Would that be Galadriel and Ivorwen?
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