Family Tree Trivia - Page 7 - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

The Perky Ent · 04-08-2004, 03:22 PM

hard to follow, but Huor, Turgon, and Beren, i don't know if you wanted it on her father or mother's side, but since you didn't specify, i think this will work! Or...

Firefoot · 04-08-2004, 04:32 PM

Yes, that will work. I was thinking great-grandfathers when I wrote it but I put in an extra great. Your turn.

The Perky Ent · 04-08-2004, 07:07 PM

oh, great grandfathers would be so much easier, but then. Oh well, new question:

Fili's nephew's great grandfathers youngest great nephews grandsons loves brother-in-laws daughters second son!

That's a mouthful!

symestreem · 04-08-2004, 08:26 PM

Fili's nephew's great-grandfather has no great-nephews.

The Perky Ent · 04-08-2004, 09:10 PM

Woah....johnny! You're right. I meant to say uncle! Woah!it should say:

Fili's uncle's great grandfathers youngest great nephews grandsons loves brother-in-laws daughters second son!

NightKnight · 04-10-2004, 02:19 AM

Elurín?

The Perky Ent · 04-10-2004, 08:15 AM

It most certainly is! Good work! Your turn!

NightKnight · 04-11-2004, 03:49 AM

Alright, here comes:

Who was the Silver Tree's grandfather's grandson's grandson's grandfather?

Firefoot · 04-11-2004, 09:07 AM

Umm, The Silver Tree?

symestreem · 04-11-2004, 01:18 PM

Are you referring to the armor of Gondor, the tree itself, or the person?

symestreem · 04-11-2004, 01:24 PM

Well, it could be the Silver Tree himself, Celeborn of Doriath and Lorien, or it could be Earendil. (The Silver Tree is Celeborn; Celeborn's grandfather was Elmo, Elmo's only known grandson is Celeborn, Celeborn's male grandchildren are Elladan and Elrohir, and their grandfathers are Celeborn and Earendil.)

NightKnight · 04-12-2004, 02:33 AM

The Silver Tree is Celeborn, but you have the wrong persons.

symestreem · 04-12-2004, 01:51 PM

OK. Well, Celeborn's only listed grandfather was Elmo; Elmo's listed grandsons were Celeborn and his brother Galathil. Galathil was the father of Nimloth, who was the mother of *slaps forehead* Elured and Elurin!! Their grandfathers were Galathil and Beren.

NightKnight · 04-13-2004, 06:01 AM

Beren was the one I was looking for. Please proceed!

symestreem · 04-18-2004, 08:11 AM

Tar-Aldarion's aunt's great-great-great-uncle's son-in-law's grandmother was ___.

I don't know if the definition of great-uncle is the same all over the world, so I'll clarify: in this puzzle, a great-uncle would be a grandparent's brother. A great-great-uncle would be a great-grandparent's brother.

NightKnight · 04-18-2004, 08:23 AM

Gilraen?

symestreem · 04-18-2004, 11:22 AM

Nope.

Firefoot · 04-18-2004, 03:38 PM

Dírhael?

symestreem · 04-18-2004, 03:54 PM

Not unless he had a sex-change operation.

The Perky Ent · 04-18-2004, 08:38 PM

Ivorwen?

symestreem · 04-19-2004, 05:42 AM

Third time's the charm!! You're correct.

symestreem · 04-29-2004, 06:59 PM

You there?

Fingolfin II · 05-08-2004, 11:03 PM

Perky?

Fingolfin II · 05-25-2004, 12:37 AM

Since Perky isn't responding.....

Who is Galadriel's father's wife's daughter's grandfather's youngest brother's son's cousin's son's wife's father's brother's wife?

NightKnight · 05-25-2004, 03:07 AM

Galadriel?

Fingolfin II · 05-25-2004, 05:10 AM

. The smile says it all.

NightKnight · 05-25-2004, 06:19 AM

Alright then:

Who was Gil-Galad's father's niece's husband's mother's cousin's son's stepfather's wife's father?

Son of Númenor · 05-25-2004, 08:16 AM

"Who was Gil-Galad's father's niece's husband's mother's cousin's son's stepfather's wife's father?"

Gil-Galad-->Fingon-->Idril-->Tuor-->Rían-->Morwen-->Túrin-->Thingol-->Melian-->

fatherless? Eru?

This is the only one I could come up with. Perhaps I am missing something.

NightKnight · 05-25-2004, 12:31 PM

You're absolutely right. Eru it is.

Son of Númenor · 05-25-2004, 01:30 PM

NightKnight, you had me questioning my ability to comprehend family trees.

Here's an easy one: How many times did Elfstan Fairbairn's mother's husband's father-in-law meet the maternal great-grandmother of Gondor's 36th king?

Fingolfin II · 05-25-2004, 09:09 PM

He (Sam) met Ivorwen zero times.

Mithalwen · 05-29-2004, 12:47 PM

Sam - yes but the maternal great grandmothers would be Galadriel and Elwing: so Elwing is none but Galadriel would be - hard to say how many exact times but loosely three - in Lorien, in Gondor for the wedding and for a lot of the journey home and at the Grey Havens. Of course he may have seen her again in the Undying Lands....

Son of Númenor · 05-29-2004, 01:03 PM

You've got it Mithalwen, unless I'm counting the kings wrong. Which may well be the case...

Mithalwen · 05-29-2004, 01:38 PM

Well I did try to count but I wasn't sure about counting Elendil & Anarion separately..and had a hunch it was Eldarion... OK here goes... and I really hope I have got this right

Barahir's father's first cousin's mother's first cousin's wife.

Yeah..think that works .....

Firefoot · 05-29-2004, 02:15 PM

Welcome to the Downs, Mithalwen!

I don't think Barahir's father (Bregor) has any cousins.

The Perky Ent · 05-29-2004, 03:53 PM

Are you refering to Barahir, son of Faramir, because i don't think he had cousins either.

symestreem · 05-29-2004, 06:30 PM

Although finding my clothes to pack would be good too...
Aha!! That Barahir does not work, but is the answer Eowyn? Barahir's father was Elboron, cousin to Elfwine, son of Lothiriel, cousin to Faramir, husband to Eowyn.

Mithalwen · 05-30-2004, 10:39 AM

Yes Symestream is right..... a little bit sneaky to choose the most obscure Barahir but I couldn't resist that particularly knotty family tree-let... I was only sorry I couldn't find the exact realtionship of Morwen of Lossarnarch to Imrahil..... since Eowyn/Eomer and Faramir/Lothiriel were themselves distant cousins through that link...

Just hope the next generation branched out a bit before it got too Hapsburgian

Thanks for the welcome btw....

symestreem · 06-07-2004, 11:58 AM

Who was Elrohir's niece's grandfather's wife's mother? Both answers, please.

piosenniel · 06-07-2004, 12:05 PM

Would that be Galadriel and Ivorwen?

04-08-2004, 03:22 PM	#241
The Perky Ent Maniacal Mage Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Setting sail for Umbar, with Firefoot at my side! Posts: 3,297	hard to follow, but Huor, Turgon, and Beren, i don't know if you wanted it on her father or mother's side, but since you didn't specify, i think this will work! Or... __________________ 'But Melkor also was there, and he came to the house of Fëanor, and there he slew Finwë King of the Noldor before his doors, and spilled the first blood in the Blessed Realm; for Finwë alone had not fled from the horror of the Dark.'

04-08-2004, 07:07 PM	#243
The Perky Ent Maniacal Mage Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Setting sail for Umbar, with Firefoot at my side! Posts: 3,297	oh, great grandfathers would be so much easier, but then. Oh well, new question: Fili's nephew's great grandfathers youngest great nephews grandsons loves brother-in-laws daughters second son! That's a mouthful! __________________ 'But Melkor also was there, and he came to the house of Fëanor, and there he slew Finwë King of the Noldor before his doors, and spilled the first blood in the Blessed Realm; for Finwë alone had not fled from the horror of the Dark.'

04-08-2004, 09:10 PM	#245
The Perky Ent Maniacal Mage Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Setting sail for Umbar, with Firefoot at my side! Posts: 3,297	Woah now! Woah....johnny! You're right. I meant to say uncle! Woah!it should say: Fili's uncle's great grandfathers youngest great nephews grandsons loves brother-in-laws daughters second son! __________________ 'But Melkor also was there, and he came to the house of Fëanor, and there he slew Finwë King of the Noldor before his doors, and spilled the first blood in the Blessed Realm; for Finwë alone had not fled from the horror of the Dark.'

04-10-2004, 02:19 AM	#246
NightKnight Lost among the Stars Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Hiding in Childhood (Sweden) Posts: 2,690	Elurín? __________________ There are three kinds of people in this world. Those who can count, and those who can't.

04-10-2004, 08:15 AM	#247
The Perky Ent Maniacal Mage Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Setting sail for Umbar, with Firefoot at my side! Posts: 3,297	It most certainly is! Good work! Your turn! __________________ 'But Melkor also was there, and he came to the house of Fëanor, and there he slew Finwë King of the Noldor before his doors, and spilled the first blood in the Blessed Realm; for Finwë alone had not fled from the horror of the Dark.'

04-08-2004, 04:32 PM	#242
Firefoot Illusionary Holbytla Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 7,547	Yes, that will work. I was thinking great-grandfathers when I wrote it but I put in an extra great. Your turn.

04-08-2004, 08:26 PM	#244
symestreem Face in the Water Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 728	Fili's nephew's great-grandfather has no great-nephews.

04-11-2004, 03:49 AM	#248
NightKnight Lost among the Stars Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Hiding in Childhood (Sweden) Posts: 2,690	Alright, here comes: Who was the Silver Tree's grandfather's grandson's grandson's grandfather? __________________ There are three kinds of people in this world. Those who can count, and those who can't.

04-11-2004, 09:07 AM	#249
Firefoot Illusionary Holbytla Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 7,547	Umm, The Silver Tree?

04-11-2004, 01:18 PM	#250
symestreem Face in the Water Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 728	Are you referring to the armor of Gondor, the tree itself, or the person?

04-11-2004, 01:24 PM	#251
symestreem Face in the Water Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 728	Well, it could be the Silver Tree himself, Celeborn of Doriath and Lorien, or it could be Earendil. (The Silver Tree is Celeborn; Celeborn's grandfather was Elmo, Elmo's only known grandson is Celeborn, Celeborn's male grandchildren are Elladan and Elrohir, and their grandfathers are Celeborn and Earendil.)

04-12-2004, 02:33 AM	#252
NightKnight Lost among the Stars Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Hiding in Childhood (Sweden) Posts: 2,690	The Silver Tree is Celeborn, but you have the wrong persons. __________________ There are three kinds of people in this world. Those who can count, and those who can't.

04-12-2004, 01:51 PM	#253
symestreem Face in the Water Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 728	OK. Well, Celeborn's only listed grandfather was Elmo; Elmo's listed grandsons were Celeborn and his brother Galathil. Galathil was the father of Nimloth, who was the mother of slaps forehead Elured and Elurin!! Their grandfathers were Galathil and Beren.

04-13-2004, 06:01 AM	#254
NightKnight Lost among the Stars Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Hiding in Childhood (Sweden) Posts: 2,690	Beren was the one I was looking for. Please proceed! __________________ There are three kinds of people in this world. Those who can count, and those who can't.

04-18-2004, 08:11 AM	#255
symestreem Face in the Water Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 728	Tar-Aldarion's aunt's great-great-great-uncle's son-in-law's grandmother was ___. I don't know if the definition of great-uncle is the same all over the world, so I'll clarify: in this puzzle, a great-uncle would be a grandparent's brother. A great-great-uncle would be a great-grandparent's brother.

04-18-2004, 08:23 AM	#256
NightKnight Lost among the Stars Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Hiding in Childhood (Sweden) Posts: 2,690	Gilraen? __________________ There are three kinds of people in this world. Those who can count, and those who can't.

04-18-2004, 11:22 AM	#257
symestreem Face in the Water Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 728	Nope.

04-18-2004, 03:38 PM	#258
Firefoot Illusionary Holbytla Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 7,547	Dírhael?

04-18-2004, 03:54 PM	#259
symestreem Face in the Water Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 728	Not unless he had a sex-change operation.

04-18-2004, 08:38 PM	#260
The Perky Ent Maniacal Mage Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Setting sail for Umbar, with Firefoot at my side! Posts: 3,297	Ivorwen? __________________ 'But Melkor also was there, and he came to the house of Fëanor, and there he slew Finwë King of the Noldor before his doors, and spilled the first blood in the Blessed Realm; for Finwë alone had not fled from the horror of the Dark.'

04-19-2004, 05:42 AM	#261
symestreem Face in the Water Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 728	Third time's the charm!! You're correct.

04-29-2004, 06:59 PM	#262
symestreem Face in the Water Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 728	Perky?? You there?

05-08-2004, 11:03 PM	#263
Fingolfin II Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Where you want me to be Posts: 1,036	*Double-bump* Perky? __________________ Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.

05-25-2004, 12:37 AM	#264
Fingolfin II Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Where you want me to be Posts: 1,036	10 Days Since Perky isn't responding..... Who is Galadriel's father's wife's daughter's grandfather's youngest brother's son's cousin's son's wife's father's brother's wife? __________________ Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.

05-25-2004, 03:07 AM	#265
NightKnight Lost among the Stars Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Hiding in Childhood (Sweden) Posts: 2,690	Galadriel? __________________ There are three kinds of people in this world. Those who can count, and those who can't.

05-25-2004, 05:10 AM	#266
Fingolfin II Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Where you want me to be Posts: 1,036	. The smile says it all. __________________ Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.

05-25-2004, 06:19 AM	#267
NightKnight Lost among the Stars Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Hiding in Childhood (Sweden) Posts: 2,690	Alright then: Who was Gil-Galad's father's niece's husband's mother's cousin's son's stepfather's wife's father? __________________ There are three kinds of people in this world. Those who can count, and those who can't.

05-25-2004, 08:16 AM	#268
Son of Númenor A Shade of Westernesse Join Date: May 2004 Location: The last wave over Atalantë Posts: 515	"Who was Gil-Galad's father's niece's husband's mother's cousin's son's stepfather's wife's father?" Gil-Galad-->Fingon-->Idril-->Tuor-->Rían-->Morwen-->Túrin-->Thingol-->Melian--> fatherless? Eru? This is the only one I could come up with. Perhaps I am missing something. __________________ "This miserable drizzling afternoon I have been reading up old military lecture-notes again:- and getting bored with them after an hour and a half. I have done some touches to my nonsense fairy language - to its improvement."

05-25-2004, 12:31 PM	#269
NightKnight Lost among the Stars Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Hiding in Childhood (Sweden) Posts: 2,690	You're absolutely right. Eru it is. __________________ There are three kinds of people in this world. Those who can count, and those who can't.

05-25-2004, 01:30 PM	#270
Son of Númenor A Shade of Westernesse Join Date: May 2004 Location: The last wave over Atalantë Posts: 515	Tricksy NightKnight, you had me questioning my ability to comprehend family trees. Here's an easy one: How many times did Elfstan Fairbairn's mother's husband's father-in-law meet the maternal great-grandmother of Gondor's 36th king? __________________ "This miserable drizzling afternoon I have been reading up old military lecture-notes again:- and getting bored with them after an hour and a half. I have done some touches to my nonsense fairy language - to its improvement."

05-25-2004, 09:09 PM	#271
Fingolfin II Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Where you want me to be Posts: 1,036	He (Sam) met Ivorwen zero times. __________________ Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.

05-29-2004, 12:47 PM	#272
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,455	Sam - yes but the maternal great grandmothers would be Galadriel and Elwing: so Elwing is none but Galadriel would be - hard to say how many exact times but loosely three - in Lorien, in Gondor for the wedding and for a lot of the journey home and at the Grey Havens. Of course he may have seen her again in the Undying Lands....

05-29-2004, 01:03 PM	#273
Son of Númenor A Shade of Westernesse Join Date: May 2004 Location: The last wave over Atalantë Posts: 515	You've got it Mithalwen, unless I'm counting the kings wrong. Which may well be the case... __________________ "This miserable drizzling afternoon I have been reading up old military lecture-notes again:- and getting bored with them after an hour and a half. I have done some touches to my nonsense fairy language - to its improvement."

05-29-2004, 01:38 PM	#274
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,455	Well I did try to count but I wasn't sure about counting Elendil & Anarion separately..and had a hunch it was Eldarion... OK here goes... and I really hope I have got this right Barahir's father's first cousin's mother's first cousin's wife. Yeah..think that works .....

05-29-2004, 02:15 PM	#275
Firefoot Illusionary Holbytla Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 7,547	Welcome to the Downs, Mithalwen! I don't think Barahir's father (Bregor) has any cousins.