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01-04-2018, 05:55 AM | #241 | |
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Moon Moon Just killed a crow Who found the wolf (at last) today So it seems he has to pay Moon Moon Gets to join the pack If Pitch can't work out how to get away...! Moon Moon (Ar-ar-aroooooo!) You've got everything you dreamed So if you can keep from tripping till tomorrow Carry on Carry on (And I'm sure they love you really...) (With sincerest apologies to Queen, and none at all to the goofy wannabe or the wolf who now has to live with him. ) ~ ... I've just noticed that Boro's very first mention of another player on Day One was 'Pitch and Rune seem alright'. Hindsight is seriously impressive, ain't it? |
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01-04-2018, 06:22 AM | #242 |
Blossom of Dwimordene
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Are we gonna pretend the game is still going or should I declare victory early? Up to you endgamers, if you wanna revel in tour last Day.
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01-04-2018, 06:46 AM | #243 |
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01-04-2018, 06:56 AM | #244 |
Wight of the Old Forest
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Ein lied, zwo, drei!
Since Huey insists...
My wolf, my wolf, Don't lie to me, Tell me: Whom did you kill last Night? In the pines, in the pines Where the sun will never shine I did shiver the whole Night through. One squinting eye lay in a pool of blood, And the other lay miles from here, With gorcrow feathers strewn around, But no body ever was found. Moon Moon, Moon Moon, Where will you go? I'm going where the cold winds blow. In the pines, in the pines Where the sun will never shine I will shiver the whole Night through. (Apologies to Leadbelly and Nirvana)
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01-04-2018, 10:02 AM | #245 |
Blossom of Dwimordene
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Endgame. Wolves Win!
As the four survivors awoke, they knew it was a race to the finish. Either they will get the wolf, or the wolf will get them.
The gorcrow began to swing a club at the vampire bat, but being upside-down, he missed. "I am the wolf!" cried the bat as his shape turned into one of a werewolf. "Aid me now, my faithful apprentice, and you shall be rewarded!" "Of course!" said Moon Moon the warg, "Look, I'm doing a victory pose!" "Not now, Moon Moon! I will take the eyes, you take the gorcrow!" And together they feasted on the flesh of the creatures of Deadmen's Dike. LIVING Boro - a warg bred for a single purpose, never being on time - COBBLER/MOON MOON Pitch - undead vampire bat - WOLF DEAD Rune - wolf, lynched D1 Inzil - ordo, killed N2 Nerwen - Ranger, lynched D2 Morsul - Seer, killed N3 Lalaith - ordo, lynched D3 Sally - ordo, killed N4 HS - lynched in endgame Shasta - killed in endgame
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01-04-2018, 10:14 AM | #246 |
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Congrats to the Forces of Evil!
Pitch was masterful as a solo wolf, and I envy Boro for having had what I consider the most fun role in WW. It was a little gratifying that my intuition did lead me to say this early on: but I also enjoyed actually not having my innocent self lynched, which is a rarity. Thanks G55 for the game!
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01-04-2018, 10:51 AM | #247 |
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I dreamt innocent Zil night one and thank IRL work schedule plus meetings the day 1 slipped my mind. The days run together sometimes.
Dreamt innocent Sally Then died after dreaming MoonMoon Boro. I legitimately have no idea why Boro got a free pass for clearly voting just to vote. Pitch didn’t enter my mind at all as a wolf.
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01-04-2018, 10:52 AM | #248 | |
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A post-mortem of Huinesoron.
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Day One Day One I got lucky. I do think Rune overreached with his tag-along accusation of Boro, but I was also lucky that so few people showed up! Only half of the players were active before I had to leave, which meant it was much easier to focus on each of them. Pretty much perfect for a first game Day One. That said, the case against Rune was always weak, and could easily have been the work of an innocent. Day Two Day Two exposed the downsides of my first day. I was now firmly in the mindset (that I didn't get out of until Day Four) that wolves would be caught by their spurious logic. That got me caught up on the fact that most people looked okay, and then on the Sally&Morsul case against me. I still don't get how 'wolf-on-wolf is possible' turned into 'wolf-on-wolf must have happened'; Morsul, what was it about me that made you convinced enough to run the risk of people falsely assuming a Seer read? I also stayed hung up on the BoroMoon theory - ironically correct, and even more ironically proposed by PitchWolf! - which led me down a twisty side-path regarding Sally. I tunnelled on this for a while, managing to miss the fact that it didn't make much sense. Morsul's reveal threw me for a loop. It took both Sally and himself off the table, and they were the people I'd focussed on all day. You can see me scrambling around to find anything against anyone else, and eventually picking Nerwen. Um, yeah, that didn't end well. Day Three Day Three exposed a big problem, and that's the way my playstyle interacted with the time of the deadline. It turns out that I'm very bad at considering people who aren't there; BoroMoon slipped entirely under my radar by the simple act of barely posting on Days 2 and 3. I also never really went back and looked at Shasta's accusations against Pitch - because Shasta wasn't there to pursue them. Sally and company discussed this after I was gone. The timing also meant that Pitch had a lot of opportunity to reinforce my lack of suspicion in him without too many other people around. But... honestly, I think I would have voted Lalaith even if Pitch had been entirely absent. She said too much that came across as logical errors, misinterpretations, and just plain wrong statements, and had a hard time naming suspects. I know Lalaith is the reading I was most confident in. Day Four Look! I finally figured it out! Except I only got PitchWolf pinned down because of BoroMoon's vote, not because of any reading on Pitch. So I still didn't really get there (and in consequence, I got et). In fact... I've looked back at Shasta's posts against Pitch, and I still don't see it. I think the idea is that Pitch was pushing too hard on Boro as a wolf after initially pegging him as Moon Moon - but I'm having a very hard time seeing his actions as more suspect than (say) Lalaith's. Conclusions & Lessons Learned -Never use the word 'see' in Werewolf. (Haha, I've already used it three times in this post... I just can't help it!) -Look at other people's accusations in detail, bearing in mind the suspect's arguments, behaviour, and voting record. -Don't trust innocents' judgement just because they're innocent. I ignored BoroMoon partly because of Sally's confidence in him, and was guided into the Lalaith lynch partly by Pitch (who I thought was innocent at the time...!). -Don't be too defensive. I'm thinking that only actual accusations need to be replied to, not random comments that could lead to them. -Don't get up at 3am to try and get the drop on the wolves; it doesn't help. Well, I had fun, and I survived to the final Day as a newbie; I'll take that. Congratulations and well played to Team Werewolf, and thank you to everyone - especially Galadriel55 for setting it all up and bringing me in! hS |
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01-04-2018, 10:54 AM | #249 |
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You acted suspicious to me. I only acted on those suspicions. Also don’t really appreciate being called a liar.(unrelated but that comment irked me.)
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01-04-2018, 10:55 AM | #250 |
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I would have dreamt you instead of Boro had he not so obviously been evil after his vote Day 2.
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01-04-2018, 11:07 AM | #251 | |
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For potential future games - can you be more specific on what you think was suspicious? Having the Seer focus near-exclusively on you when you're innocent is pretty unnerving...! |
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01-04-2018, 12:23 PM | #252 | |
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I have to say I got a kick out of the Day 1 goofiness. Boro was a spectacular cobbler. It was hilarious to watch from the side how he was doing absolutely nothing except messing with people and preventing solid discussion.
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And the next Day Shasta came and basically said "Pitch is a wolf, lynch that guy". Why do we even need a Seer? You guys were fantastic! I'm really sorry I kept screwing up the deadline time. I hope everyone enjoyed nonetheless.
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01-04-2018, 12:28 PM | #253 |
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Also, fun fact: initially I screwed up the roles and made 3 wolves out of habit and inattention instead of 2. The original team was Nerwen, Shasta, and HS. Just imagine what that would have been like!
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01-04-2018, 01:24 PM | #254 | |
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This was a fun straightforward game, thanks to G55 for modding and for your crisp and funny narrations! Rune and I were originally concerned that the late deadline (4am for both of us) would be a strong disadvantage for us, but combined with the Rule of First it actually worked out in our favour, allowing me to mess with Huey's mind without too much interference. (I honestly think the Rule of First is a daft rule though -- the last in a tie should be considered the village's best-informed choice; that's just an observation though, no criticism of G55's modding.) I've always dreaded being left as a lone wolf, the one time it happened before I was easily lynched (by Sally and Lottie IIRC), but since it happened early and nothing obvious linked me to Rune I found it surprisingly exhilarating to have nobody and nothing to worry about except avoiding the noose at Day and choosing my menu at Night - a bit like a Werebear, I guess, except I wasn't really on my own with a cobbler in the game. Speaking of cobblers, I was semi-kidding with Boro as Moon Moon on D1 but when Huey thought it made sense I rolled with it, mainly to avoid going wolf-on-wolf against Rune and maybe to draw some of the votes away from him, as Shasta saw correctly. N2 I thought Huey might be the Seer, since he went after Rune so single-mindedly, and almost killed him (!) but thought he might be protected, so I went for Zil instead, which worked out well I think. D2 I didn't think much about the cobbler, although I considered Lalaith a possible one for her lack of suspicions which looked a bit like she was wary of lynching a wolf by mistake. (Yes, dear, I know you were pressed for time, but I couldn't make excuses for juicy lynchbait, could I?) I might have gone after Sally, but here comes Morsul and bang, he's the Seer! Fun fact: I really voted Lal to save Nerwen because of the Eye thing, thinking to maybe build a defense from that the next Day, but the village decided to be helpful and lynch their Ranger. That was just dumb luck. D3 I became quite convinced that Huey was my cobbler and enjoyed quoting his declarations of my innocence to my wife. Sorry, Huey - I've played an involuntary cobbler more than once as an ordo, it can happen. I might have been in for a nasty surprise this morning, but Boro's vote and his comment on it on it tipped me off that I had been right about him after all! Boro, I'm curious - who did you think the remaining wolf was before toDay? Everybody - it was a pleasure to play with you again after so long! I've missed this.
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01-04-2018, 01:57 PM | #255 | ||
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(Rune, don't get me wrong, I enjoyed wolfing with you and was sorry to see you go. I wish we could have shared the Night kills! You left no ties to me, that helped.) Quote:
This - I even said myself that the cobbler isn't our main concern, but Boro just made too convenient a target to let go. Also note that I commented on a few suspicious things that Rune had done but never followed up on it. "Hmm, yes, his sudden suspicion of Zil is fishy -- Oh, look, a butterfly!"
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01-04-2018, 09:26 PM | #256 | |
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01-04-2018, 10:22 PM | #257 |
Ghost Prince of Cardolan
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I’m just still curious why Boro got a pass?
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01-05-2018, 01:17 AM | #258 |
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Pitch was a wolf because of his Day 1 attempt at saving Rune, his subsequent shading of me when I pointed it out, and his "oh, sure, yeah, you're right" attitude towards my suspicion of him (there's a reason his nickname is Mr. Agreeable). My own reasoning didn't have a ton to do with Boro, to be honest.
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01-05-2018, 04:18 AM | #259 |
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Well, congratulations you nasty mangy lupines! And well done recovering from the Day One disaster! (By the way, isn't Rune a Double Fenris now?)
I can't help feeling this was my fault for letting myself get lynched- my internet had died repeatedly that day and I should have voted when I had the chance. I did hope the Eye icon would give people pause. But apparently only Pitchwolf noticed! Still, at least Moon Moon was Boro and not Huey. I'd have felt so embarassed having to admit I'd protected the cobbler!
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