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HerenIstarion · 10-06-2004, 01:17 AM

These two persons were very much alike and all dressed in black clothes. Their occupations were alike, but one of them, who was taller, had tint of 'finality' to his. Name both.

Estelyn Telcontar · 10-06-2004, 01:26 AM

That would be the Inspector and the Driver, in Leaf by Niggle. The latter was responsible for the transportation to Niggle's final destination, ending his mortal life.

HerenIstarion · 10-06-2004, 02:08 AM

yes, your answer is correct

Estelyn Telcontar · 10-06-2004, 04:34 AM

Who was Alf's "prentice"?

HerenIstarion · 11-19-2004, 05:56 AM

Master Harper was

Estelyn Telcontar · 11-19-2004, 06:00 AM

Correct, HI, and nice to see you breathing life into this and other dormant threads! By the way, congratulations on joining the ranks of those who are welcome in Aragorn's court!

HerenIstarion · 11-19-2004, 06:06 AM

Ah, thank you

Indeed, it tickles my vanity to have that additional bright square. Good for me to have it, bad to be vain about it.

Back to the matter at hand, though:

Who she was to wake up at three AM to be, in the long run, dissapointed about it not only because of lack of sleep but due to lost of wonderful opportunity?

Estelyn Telcontar · 11-27-2004, 03:53 PM

Is it Fíriel? I'm not sure I quite understand the question, but that is the only "she" who is mentioned in connection with three o'clock, as far as I could find it.

HerenIstarion · 11-27-2004, 05:04 PM

She was. Word 'wonderful' applied as the journey with elves as it would bring her wonder for sure, not to imply she in any way may have stopped the earth from catching her feet. The ground is yours, m'lady

Estelyn Telcontar · 11-28-2004, 06:50 AM

Tolkien very amusingly describes the smell of a spell in one of his stories - what is it like?

Estelyn Telcontar · 12-16-2004, 04:01 PM

Granted, the spell did not smell of Christmasy spices; still, does anyone want to attempt an answer at this season?

Estelyn Telcontar · 01-04-2005, 02:25 AM

I guess no one is going to attempt to answer that question, so here's a new one:

Who was not the duke's nephew, though he had the same name?

Estelyn Telcontar · 02-01-2005, 02:44 AM

I'm reviving this question in hopes that a minor works fan will answer it or at least ask for a clue to show interest... If not, I may have to ask a really easy question to get it moving again!

HerenIstarion · 02-01-2005, 04:03 PM

Both questions are very curious, and I would venture so far in showing interest as to aks for the answer to the former, and a clue to the latter

Estelyn Telcontar · 02-02-2005, 03:45 AM

The latter comes from a poetic minor work - clue enough?

The former comes from Roverandom:

Quote:

What was the Man-in-the-Moon doing? Well, he let off a truly magnificent rocket; and after that he said 'Drat that creature!' and also 'Drat those puppies! They will bring on an eclipse before it is due!' And then he went down into the cellars and uncorked a dark, black spell that looked like jellified tar and honey (and smelt like the Fifth of November and cabbage boiling over).

I found that very amusing!

HerenIstarion · 02-03-2005, 02:12 PM

Smell of a spell - Ah, I must have remembered that!

As for the nephews - I may recall two dukes in 'minor works' - Beorhtnoth (duke of Essex), and Dodinel de Sauvage (same as Doddinaual de Sauage) duke of Clarence.

Or, to be truly honest, I may recall one duke (that is, Beorhtnoth) and I've looked up another one

I can recall no nephews, though. And haven't found any, besides Gawain himself, who is not duke's nephew, but King's nephew. Also several other noble knights, equally Arthur's nephews.

But should I recall nephews at all? I should not, obviously - point being, the chap was not a nephew?

um... I certainly feel like another hint here

Estelyn Telcontar · 02-03-2005, 02:32 PM

Beorhtnoth is the right place to look. The mix-up concerns two persons of the same name.

HerenIstarion · 02-07-2005, 10:21 AM

Wulfmær, son of Wulfstan of Essex (Eastsaxon lad, eh?)

Not Wulfmær, Beorhtnoth's sister son of Essex (is he not an Eastsaxon lad as well?)

Estelyn Telcontar · 02-07-2005, 03:38 PM

That's correct, HI! Pray puzzle us with a new question.

HerenIstarion · 02-08-2005, 03:46 PM

Who (two) exchanged axe blows with an interval of an year?

Estelyn Telcontar · 03-01-2005, 01:59 AM

I'm puzzled by this question, HI, trying to remember where in a minor work axe blows are exchanged. It must be in one of JRRT's translations, which I haven't read yet. Can you drop a hint, please?

HerenIstarion · 03-01-2005, 02:08 AM

One of the two was quite peculiar in aspect of reaction in onlooker's visual brain cells caused by the stimulus the light refracted by the eyes of onlooker's brought to said cells, caused, in its turn, by particular way the light reflected off said person.

I'm not quite sure what exactly I did say, myself, though

Estelyn Telcontar · 03-01-2005, 02:28 AM

Well, before I start searching seriously, I'm just going to hazard a guess here - were the two Sir Gawain and the Green Knight?

HerenIstarion · 03-01-2005, 02:38 AM

But of course they were! You may proceed, my lady

Estelyn Telcontar · 03-01-2005, 11:30 AM

Of which two components does 'News of the World' mostly consist, according to one of Tolkien's works?

HerenIstarion · 08-10-2005, 03:59 AM

Murders and football matches, mostly (Roverandom)

Estelyn Telcontar · 08-10-2005, 09:07 AM

Precisely, HI! (And it's still true today, sadly.) Go for a new one!

HerenIstarion · 08-10-2005, 11:43 PM

Which person of noble and ancient descent was called, quite unexpectedly to both of the participants of the conversation, 'horny old vermint' on one occassion?

Estelyn Telcontar · 08-20-2005, 02:48 AM

The dragon Chrysophylax was called "you horny old varmint" by Farmer Giles of Ham.

HerenIstarion · 08-20-2005, 03:58 AM

Of course, madam

Pray proceed

Estelyn Telcontar · 08-25-2005, 02:24 PM

Which word does Tolkien use to express the opposite of eucatastrophe?

The Squatter of Amon Rûdh · 08-25-2005, 04:44 PM

'Tragedy'

Quote:

At least I would say that Tragedy is the true form of Drama, its highest function; but the opposite is true of Fairy-story. Since we do not appear to possess a word that expresses this opposite - I will call it Eucatastrophe.

On Fairy-stories, Recovery, Escape, Consolation

Estelyn Telcontar · 08-26-2005, 12:32 AM

Very close, Squatter, and true, but there is a specific word for which I'm looking.

The Squatter of Amon Rûdh · 08-26-2005, 03:20 AM

'Tragedy' is a specific word. Clearly I was right and you've just forgotten the answer. I shall appeal.

Alternatively, you must be looking for dyscatastrophe.

Estelyn Telcontar · 08-26-2005, 03:57 AM

That's the one I was looking for! It's such an interesting word, and used so seldom, which is why it appeals to me! Carry on, Squatter.

The Squatter of Amon Rûdh · 08-26-2005, 04:11 AM

I think Tolkien invented dyscatastrophe too. It certainly isn't in the OED.

Which character encountered by the hero in Roverandom is a Viking?

Estelyn Telcontar · 09-09-2005, 01:02 AM

Can you give a clue, Squatter? I can only find 'Niord', whom Rover doesn't actually encounter, or the 'Red Worm', of whom the mer-dog tells, but who is also not encountered by the title hero.

The Squatter of Amon Rûdh · 09-09-2005, 07:52 AM

With pleasure.

The clue is in the back-story. What is the element with which we most associate Vikings?

Estelyn Telcontar · 09-09-2005, 08:22 AM

water

I'll be searching for the answer.

edit: the sea-serpent, perhaps? (from Midgard)

The Squatter of Amon Rûdh · 09-11-2005, 07:56 AM

But the sea-serpent isn't the Midgard Serpent. He's only partially based on Loki's serpentine offspring. Bear in mind that the Red Worm is a ship and not a character. Does that help?

10-06-2004, 01:17 AM	#241
HerenIstarion Deadnight Chanter Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 4,244	These two persons were very much alike and all dressed in black clothes. Their occupations were alike, but one of them, who was taller, had tint of 'finality' to his. Name both. __________________ Egroeg Ihkhsal - Would you believe in the love at first sight? - Yes I'm certain that it happens all the time! Last edited by HerenIstarion; 10-06-2004 at 01:22 AM. Reason: spellcheck

10-06-2004, 01:26 AM	#242
Estelyn Telcontar Princess of Skwerlz Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: where the Sea is eastwards (WtR: 6060 miles) Posts: 7,500	That would be the Inspector and the Driver, in Leaf by Niggle. The latter was responsible for the transportation to Niggle's final destination, ending his mortal life. __________________ 'Mercy!' cried Gandalf. 'If the giving of information is to be the cure of your inquisitiveness, I shall spend all the rest of my days in answering you. What more do you want to know?' 'The whole history of Middle-earth...'

10-06-2004, 02:08 AM	#243
HerenIstarion Deadnight Chanter Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 4,244	yes, your answer is correct __________________ Egroeg Ihkhsal - Would you believe in the love at first sight? - Yes I'm certain that it happens all the time!

10-06-2004, 04:34 AM	#244
Estelyn Telcontar Princess of Skwerlz Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: where the Sea is eastwards (WtR: 6060 miles) Posts: 7,500	Who was Alf's "prentice"? __________________ 'Mercy!' cried Gandalf. 'If the giving of information is to be the cure of your inquisitiveness, I shall spend all the rest of my days in answering you. What more do you want to know?' 'The whole history of Middle-earth...'

11-19-2004, 05:56 AM	#245
HerenIstarion Deadnight Chanter Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 4,244	Master Harper was __________________ Egroeg Ihkhsal - Would you believe in the love at first sight? - Yes I'm certain that it happens all the time!

11-19-2004, 06:00 AM	#246
Estelyn Telcontar Princess of Skwerlz Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: where the Sea is eastwards (WtR: 6060 miles) Posts: 7,500	Correct, HI, and nice to see you breathing life into this and other dormant threads! By the way, congratulations on joining the ranks of those who are welcome in Aragorn's court! __________________ 'Mercy!' cried Gandalf. 'If the giving of information is to be the cure of your inquisitiveness, I shall spend all the rest of my days in answering you. What more do you want to know?' 'The whole history of Middle-earth...'

11-19-2004, 06:06 AM	#247
HerenIstarion Deadnight Chanter Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 4,244	Ah, thank you Indeed, it tickles my vanity to have that additional bright square. Good for me to have it, bad to be vain about it. Back to the matter at hand, though: Who she was to wake up at three AM to be, in the long run, dissapointed about it not only because of lack of sleep but due to lost of wonderful opportunity? __________________ Egroeg Ihkhsal - Would you believe in the love at first sight? - Yes I'm certain that it happens all the time!

11-27-2004, 03:53 PM	#248
Estelyn Telcontar Princess of Skwerlz Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: where the Sea is eastwards (WtR: 6060 miles) Posts: 7,500	Is it Fíriel? I'm not sure I quite understand the question, but that is the only "she" who is mentioned in connection with three o'clock, as far as I could find it. __________________ 'Mercy!' cried Gandalf. 'If the giving of information is to be the cure of your inquisitiveness, I shall spend all the rest of my days in answering you. What more do you want to know?' 'The whole history of Middle-earth...'

11-27-2004, 05:04 PM	#249
HerenIstarion Deadnight Chanter Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 4,244	She was. Word 'wonderful' applied as the journey with elves as it would bring her wonder for sure, not to imply she in any way may have stopped the earth from catching her feet. The ground is yours, m'lady __________________ Egroeg Ihkhsal - Would you believe in the love at first sight? - Yes I'm certain that it happens all the time!

11-28-2004, 06:50 AM	#250
Estelyn Telcontar Princess of Skwerlz Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: where the Sea is eastwards (WtR: 6060 miles) Posts: 7,500	Tolkien very amusingly describes the smell of a spell in one of his stories - what is it like? __________________ 'Mercy!' cried Gandalf. 'If the giving of information is to be the cure of your inquisitiveness, I shall spend all the rest of my days in answering you. What more do you want to know?' 'The whole history of Middle-earth...'

12-16-2004, 04:01 PM	#251
Estelyn Telcontar Princess of Skwerlz Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: where the Sea is eastwards (WtR: 6060 miles) Posts: 7,500	Granted, the spell did not smell of Christmasy spices; still, does anyone want to attempt an answer at this season? __________________ 'Mercy!' cried Gandalf. 'If the giving of information is to be the cure of your inquisitiveness, I shall spend all the rest of my days in answering you. What more do you want to know?' 'The whole history of Middle-earth...'

01-04-2005, 02:25 AM	#252
Estelyn Telcontar Princess of Skwerlz Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: where the Sea is eastwards (WtR: 6060 miles) Posts: 7,500	I guess no one is going to attempt to answer that question, so here's a new one: Who was not the duke's nephew, though he had the same name? __________________ 'Mercy!' cried Gandalf. 'If the giving of information is to be the cure of your inquisitiveness, I shall spend all the rest of my days in answering you. What more do you want to know?' 'The whole history of Middle-earth...'

02-01-2005, 02:44 AM	#253
Estelyn Telcontar Princess of Skwerlz Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: where the Sea is eastwards (WtR: 6060 miles) Posts: 7,500	I'm reviving this question in hopes that a minor works fan will answer it or at least ask for a clue to show interest... If not, I may have to ask a really easy question to get it moving again! __________________ 'Mercy!' cried Gandalf. 'If the giving of information is to be the cure of your inquisitiveness, I shall spend all the rest of my days in answering you. What more do you want to know?' 'The whole history of Middle-earth...'

02-01-2005, 04:03 PM	#254
HerenIstarion Deadnight Chanter Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 4,244	Both questions are very curious, and I would venture so far in showing interest as to aks for the answer to the former, and a clue to the latter __________________ Egroeg Ihkhsal - Would you believe in the love at first sight? - Yes I'm certain that it happens all the time!

02-03-2005, 02:12 PM	#256
HerenIstarion Deadnight Chanter Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 4,244	Smell of a spell - Ah, I must have remembered that! As for the nephews - I may recall two dukes in 'minor works' - Beorhtnoth (duke of Essex), and Dodinel de Sauvage (same as Doddinaual de Sauage) duke of Clarence. Or, to be truly honest, I may recall one duke (that is, Beorhtnoth) and I've looked up another one I can recall no nephews, though. And haven't found any, besides Gawain himself, who is not duke's nephew, but King's nephew. Also several other noble knights, equally Arthur's nephews. But should I recall nephews at all? I should not, obviously - point being, the chap was not a nephew? um... I certainly feel like another hint here __________________ Egroeg Ihkhsal - Would you believe in the love at first sight? - Yes I'm certain that it happens all the time! Last edited by HerenIstarion; 02-03-2005 at 02:25 PM.

02-03-2005, 02:32 PM	#257
Estelyn Telcontar Princess of Skwerlz Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: where the Sea is eastwards (WtR: 6060 miles) Posts: 7,500	Beorhtnoth is the right place to look. The mix-up concerns two persons of the same name. __________________ 'Mercy!' cried Gandalf. 'If the giving of information is to be the cure of your inquisitiveness, I shall spend all the rest of my days in answering you. What more do you want to know?' 'The whole history of Middle-earth...'

02-07-2005, 10:21 AM	#258
HerenIstarion Deadnight Chanter Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 4,244	nephews, in-laws and others... Wulfmær, son of Wulfstan of Essex (Eastsaxon lad, eh?) Not Wulfmær, Beorhtnoth's sister son of Essex (is he not an Eastsaxon lad as well?) __________________ Egroeg Ihkhsal - Would you believe in the love at first sight? - Yes I'm certain that it happens all the time!

02-07-2005, 03:38 PM	#259
Estelyn Telcontar Princess of Skwerlz Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: where the Sea is eastwards (WtR: 6060 miles) Posts: 7,500	That's correct, HI! Pray puzzle us with a new question. __________________ 'Mercy!' cried Gandalf. 'If the giving of information is to be the cure of your inquisitiveness, I shall spend all the rest of my days in answering you. What more do you want to know?' 'The whole history of Middle-earth...'

02-08-2005, 03:46 PM	#260
HerenIstarion Deadnight Chanter Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 4,244	Who (two) exchanged axe blows with an interval of an year? __________________ Egroeg Ihkhsal - Would you believe in the love at first sight? - Yes I'm certain that it happens all the time!

03-01-2005, 01:59 AM	#261
Estelyn Telcontar Princess of Skwerlz Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: where the Sea is eastwards (WtR: 6060 miles) Posts: 7,500	I'm puzzled by this question, HI, trying to remember where in a minor work axe blows are exchanged. It must be in one of JRRT's translations, which I haven't read yet. Can you drop a hint, please? __________________ 'Mercy!' cried Gandalf. 'If the giving of information is to be the cure of your inquisitiveness, I shall spend all the rest of my days in answering you. What more do you want to know?' 'The whole history of Middle-earth...'

03-01-2005, 02:08 AM	#262
HerenIstarion Deadnight Chanter Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 4,244	hint One of the two was quite peculiar in aspect of reaction in onlooker's visual brain cells caused by the stimulus the light refracted by the eyes of onlooker's brought to said cells, caused, in its turn, by particular way the light reflected off said person. I'm not quite sure what exactly I did say, myself, though __________________ Egroeg Ihkhsal - Would you believe in the love at first sight? - Yes I'm certain that it happens all the time!

03-01-2005, 02:28 AM	#263
Estelyn Telcontar Princess of Skwerlz Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: where the Sea is eastwards (WtR: 6060 miles) Posts: 7,500	Well, before I start searching seriously, I'm just going to hazard a guess here - were the two Sir Gawain and the Green Knight? __________________ 'Mercy!' cried Gandalf. 'If the giving of information is to be the cure of your inquisitiveness, I shall spend all the rest of my days in answering you. What more do you want to know?' 'The whole history of Middle-earth...'

03-01-2005, 02:38 AM	#264
HerenIstarion Deadnight Chanter Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 4,244	But of course they were! You may proceed, my lady __________________ Egroeg Ihkhsal - Would you believe in the love at first sight? - Yes I'm certain that it happens all the time!

03-01-2005, 11:30 AM	#265
Estelyn Telcontar Princess of Skwerlz Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: where the Sea is eastwards (WtR: 6060 miles) Posts: 7,500	Of which two components does 'News of the World' mostly consist, according to one of Tolkien's works? __________________ 'Mercy!' cried Gandalf. 'If the giving of information is to be the cure of your inquisitiveness, I shall spend all the rest of my days in answering you. What more do you want to know?' 'The whole history of Middle-earth...'

08-10-2005, 03:59 AM	#266
HerenIstarion Deadnight Chanter Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 4,244	Found it at last! Murders and football matches, mostly (Roverandom) __________________ Egroeg Ihkhsal - Would you believe in the love at first sight? - Yes I'm certain that it happens all the time!

08-10-2005, 09:07 AM	#267
Estelyn Telcontar Princess of Skwerlz Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: where the Sea is eastwards (WtR: 6060 miles) Posts: 7,500	...late is better than never Precisely, HI! (And it's still true today, sadly.) Go for a new one! __________________ 'Mercy!' cried Gandalf. 'If the giving of information is to be the cure of your inquisitiveness, I shall spend all the rest of my days in answering you. What more do you want to know?' 'The whole history of Middle-earth...'

08-10-2005, 11:43 PM	#268
HerenIstarion Deadnight Chanter Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 4,244	Which person of noble and ancient descent was called, quite unexpectedly to both of the participants of the conversation, 'horny old vermint' on one occassion? __________________ Egroeg Ihkhsal - Would you believe in the love at first sight? - Yes I'm certain that it happens all the time!

08-20-2005, 02:48 AM	#269
Estelyn Telcontar Princess of Skwerlz Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: where the Sea is eastwards (WtR: 6060 miles) Posts: 7,500	The dragon Chrysophylax was called "you horny old varmint" by Farmer Giles of Ham. __________________ 'Mercy!' cried Gandalf. 'If the giving of information is to be the cure of your inquisitiveness, I shall spend all the rest of my days in answering you. What more do you want to know?' 'The whole history of Middle-earth...'

08-20-2005, 03:58 AM	#270
HerenIstarion Deadnight Chanter Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 4,244	Of course, madam Pray proceed __________________ Egroeg Ihkhsal - Would you believe in the love at first sight? - Yes I'm certain that it happens all the time!

08-25-2005, 02:24 PM	#271
Estelyn Telcontar Princess of Skwerlz Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: where the Sea is eastwards (WtR: 6060 miles) Posts: 7,500	Which word does Tolkien use to express the opposite of eucatastrophe? __________________ 'Mercy!' cried Gandalf. 'If the giving of information is to be the cure of your inquisitiveness, I shall spend all the rest of my days in answering you. What more do you want to know?' 'The whole history of Middle-earth...'

08-26-2005, 12:32 AM	#273
Estelyn Telcontar Princess of Skwerlz Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: where the Sea is eastwards (WtR: 6060 miles) Posts: 7,500	Very close, Squatter, and true, but there is a specific word for which I'm looking. __________________ 'Mercy!' cried Gandalf. 'If the giving of information is to be the cure of your inquisitiveness, I shall spend all the rest of my days in answering you. What more do you want to know?' 'The whole history of Middle-earth...'

08-26-2005, 03:20 AM	#274
The Squatter of Amon Rûdh Spectre of Decay Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Bar-en-Danwedh Posts: 2,178	Getting rusty 'Tragedy' is a specific word. Clearly I was right and you've just forgotten the answer. I shall appeal. Alternatively, you must be looking for dyscatastrophe. __________________ Man kenuva métim' andúne?

08-26-2005, 03:57 AM	#275
Estelyn Telcontar Princess of Skwerlz Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: where the Sea is eastwards (WtR: 6060 miles) Posts: 7,500	That's the one I was looking for! It's such an interesting word, and used so seldom, which is why it appeals to me! Carry on, Squatter. __________________ 'Mercy!' cried Gandalf. 'If the giving of information is to be the cure of your inquisitiveness, I shall spend all the rest of my days in answering you. What more do you want to know?' 'The whole history of Middle-earth...'

08-26-2005, 04:11 AM	#276
The Squatter of Amon Rûdh Spectre of Decay Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Bar-en-Danwedh Posts: 2,178	Words, words I think Tolkien invented dyscatastrophe too. It certainly isn't in the OED. Which character encountered by the hero in Roverandom is a Viking? __________________ Man kenuva métim' andúne?

09-09-2005, 01:02 AM	#277
Estelyn Telcontar Princess of Skwerlz Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: where the Sea is eastwards (WtR: 6060 miles) Posts: 7,500	Can you give a clue, Squatter? I can only find 'Niord', whom Rover doesn't actually encounter, or the 'Red Worm', of whom the mer-dog tells, but who is also not encountered by the title hero. __________________ 'Mercy!' cried Gandalf. 'If the giving of information is to be the cure of your inquisitiveness, I shall spend all the rest of my days in answering you. What more do you want to know?' 'The whole history of Middle-earth...'