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The Squatter of Amon Rûdh · 12-19-2003, 09:54 AM

I thank thee for thy kind words, but this riddle is hard to fathom. Mayhap my noble brand knoweth the king whereof thou speakest:

How many times do I have to tell you not to speak that way? You're getting such a cut next time I'm out

Give me the answer or I won't get that new whetstone.

All right already! It's Amroth. Now shut up and go away

This maketh no sense to me, but so it ever is with matters of thought. Could it be that the sword speaks sooth?

Finwe · 12-21-2003, 02:20 PM

I'm guessing wildly... Minhiriath?

(I know it makes no sense whatsoever, but when you're as sleep-deprived and caffeine-overdosed as I am, you start thinking about the strangest things.)

Nilpaurion Felagund · 12-22-2003, 04:09 AM

I'd hate to break the bad news to Wylkynsion, but...no. Don't let him kill me...

Finwe! Your answer is...oh, wait...wrong.

Keep guessing! [img]smilies/cool.gif[/img]

Finwe · 12-22-2003, 04:47 PM

Hmmm...

Minuial? Mitheithel?

Nilpaurion Felagund · 12-22-2003, 09:45 PM

It's a person...The King is a straight clue... [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

Finwe · 12-22-2003, 09:49 PM

Hmmm... Aragorn?

Nilpaurion Felagund · 12-27-2003, 04:46 AM

We have a negative, Sierra-Four. I repeat, we have a negative!

Keep guessing. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] I might be kind enough for a hint, too. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

**The Saucepan Man** · 12-27-2003, 09:41 PM

Hints are for wimps. [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img] [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

I believe that the answer is Amlaith.

Quote:

The King's laughter after the morning is noteless.

"Lalaith" means laughter. Being noteless, it loses the note "la" to become "laith".

Putting it after "am" (morning), we get "Amlaith", the first King of Arthedain.

Am I right, or what? [img]smilies/cool.gif[/img]

Nilpaurion Felagund · 12-30-2003, 07:16 AM

Haha! Wrong! Not so smart now, eh...

Wait, you're freaking right! Aaaaah!!!!!

**The Saucepan Man** · 12-30-2003, 09:31 PM

Quote:

Wait, you're freaking right!

Of course I am. [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img] [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

Possessive female from the Mark taking you, we hear, as a Rider.

Orual · 12-30-2003, 11:06 PM

Take note that it's almost eleven, but I've got a wild guess...could it be Aragorn? I'm just working off of a connection to Eowyn ("Progressive female from the Mark") and something that sounds like "Rider" (Strider).

I'm likely wrong, but why not try...?

<font size=1 color=339966>[ 12:07 AM December 31, 2003: Message edited by: Orual ]

Gil-numen · 12-31-2003, 09:39 PM

Meriadoc Brandybuck ?

Dernhelm took him as a rider

---------------------------
"Show it to me"
Thingol to Beren

**The Saucepan Man** · 01-01-2004, 11:36 PM

Nope. Think less literally and more cryptically. [img]smilies/evil.gif[/img] [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

Lord of Angmar · 01-03-2004, 06:04 PM

This is a hard one to crack, Saucepan, but I shall take a rather imbecilic crack at it:

Since "her" is the possessive form of "she" ("Possesive female"), and since you talk about a the Mark, meaning Rohan, perhaps you mean Herugrim, the sword of Theoden?

Nilpaurion Felagund · 01-04-2004, 12:16 AM

Or could it be Dernhelm? Or is my answer too obvious? [img]smilies/cool.gif[/img]

**The Saucepan Man** · 01-04-2004, 10:05 PM

Lord of Angmar, you are very close indeed. So close, in fact, that you are just one syllable out.

Nope, Nilpaurion, not Dernhelm.

Nilpaurion Felagund · 01-04-2004, 10:17 PM

Herunúmen?

Finwe · 01-05-2004, 10:43 AM

Herucalmo?

**The Saucepan Man** · 01-05-2004, 11:18 AM

Nope. Right two syllables, wrong ending.

Try solving the cryptic clues (the Lord of Angmar has done some of this already). I will not be awarding a correct answer without an explanation. [img]smilies/evil.gif[/img]

Turambar · 01-05-2004, 02:13 PM

Herubrand ? L of A's cryptic reasoning + the name of a Rider of Rohan ?

EDIT: plus "Mark" = brand ? So "Mark" was a double - a cryptic AND a straight clue ?

<font size=1 color=339966>[ 4:05 PM January 05, 2004: Message edited by: Turambar ]

**The Saucepan Man** · 01-05-2004, 06:44 PM

Actually, "Mark" was a cryptic clue for brand, with a sounded "you" (ie "u") before it. The straight clue was "Rider".

But you were on the right track, and gave the corrct answer, so the thread is yours, Master of Doom. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Turambar · 01-06-2004, 08:47 AM

Famed as caretaker of lost treasure.

Celebrian · 01-06-2004, 09:55 AM

Smeagol or Smaug? Smeagol or Smaug?
I choose Smaug

Turambar · 01-06-2004, 10:33 AM

No, neither.

Nice avy ! [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

Celebrian · 01-06-2004, 10:45 AM

Our friend Thorin of the Arkenstone?

Thanks! and thank you for the Yul inspiration!
*hums and drums on her computer desk "The Twelve Days of Christmas"

Turambar · 01-06-2004, 11:24 AM

No - there's a "cryptic" clue in there.

Celebrian · 01-06-2004, 11:43 AM

Great...something?
Edit for clarity: That is, does the word "Great" figure in?

<font size=1 color=339966>[ 12:45 PM January 06, 2004: Message edited by: Celebrian ]

Turambar · 01-06-2004, 12:13 PM

Nyet.

Gwaihir the Windlord · 01-07-2004, 01:58 AM

...nyet?

Turambar · 01-07-2004, 08:57 AM

Errr - no, the word "Great" does not appear in the answer.

Celebrian · 01-08-2004, 02:40 PM

Steward of Gondor?

Turambar · 01-08-2004, 03:06 PM

Nope.

HINT: A "cryptic" clue (by my definition) means a Scramble, a word-within-words, a "sounds like", etc.

HINT 2: "stolen treasure" might be more accurate.

Kath · 01-08-2004, 03:21 PM

I can't remember his name but maybe the guy who stole the Silmarils?
If this is wrong could you still tell me who it was cos I've lost my copy of the Silmarillion - doh!

Elrond of Rivendell · 01-08-2004, 04:15 PM

Quote:

I can't remember his name but maybe the guy who stole the Silmarils?
If this is wrong could you still tell me who it was cos I've lost my copy of the Silmarillion - doh!

You probable mean Morgoth or Melkor, as his original name was.
But honestly, I don't think Turambar's riddle will be THAT easy. [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]
But anyway, welcome to the Downs.
Greetings,
EfR

Finwe · 01-08-2004, 06:33 PM

Beren?

Nilpaurion Felagund · 01-09-2004, 03:58 AM

The answer would be Ascar.

Turambar · 01-09-2004, 08:02 AM

Nilpaurion has it - the river Ascar, where the stolen treasure of Doriath was drowned.

***The Barrow-Wight*** · 01-10-2004, 06:27 PM

**** Anouncement ****
If one cryptic clue at a time isn't enough, try The Saucepan Man's Tolkien Cryptic Crossword!

Finwe · 01-10-2004, 06:51 PM

*keels over in a dead faint*

And I thought that the other crosswords were hard!

Nilpaurion Felagund · 01-11-2004, 08:12 PM

Twice bearing south

and...

Quote:

I will not be awarding a correct answer without an explanation. [img]smilies/evil.gif[/img]

12-19-2003, 09:54 AM	#241
The Squatter of Amon Rûdh Spectre of Decay Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Bar-en-Danwedh Posts: 2,178	I thank thee for thy kind words, but this riddle is hard to fathom. Mayhap my noble brand knoweth the king whereof thou speakest: How many times do I have to tell you not to speak that way? You're getting such a cut next time I'm out Give me the answer or I won't get that new whetstone. All right already! It's Amroth. Now shut up and go away This maketh no sense to me, but so it ever is with matters of thought. Could it be that the sword speaks sooth? __________________ Man kenuva métim' andúne?

12-21-2003, 02:20 PM	#242
Finwe Deathless Sun Join Date: May 2003 Location: The Royal Suite in the Halls of Mandos Posts: 2,609	I'm guessing wildly... Minhiriath? (I know it makes no sense whatsoever, but when you're as sleep-deprived and caffeine-overdosed as I am, you start thinking about the strangest things.) __________________ But Melkor also was there, and he came to the house of Fëanor, and there he slew Finwë King of the Noldor before his doors, and spilled the first blood in the Blessed Realm; for Finwë alone had not fled from the horror of the Dark.

12-22-2003, 04:09 AM	#243
Nilpaurion Felagund Scion of The Faithful Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The brink, where hope and despair are akin. [The Philippines] Posts: 5,312	I'd hate to break the bad news to Wylkynsion, but...no. Don't let him kill me... Finwe! Your answer is...oh, wait...wrong. Keep guessing! [img]smilies/cool.gif[/img] __________________ フェンリス鴨 (Fenrisu Kamo) The plot, cut, defeated. I intend to copy this sig forever - so far so good...

12-22-2003, 04:47 PM	#244
Finwe Deathless Sun Join Date: May 2003 Location: The Royal Suite in the Halls of Mandos Posts: 2,609	Hmmm... Minuial? Mitheithel? __________________ But Melkor also was there, and he came to the house of Fëanor, and there he slew Finwë King of the Noldor before his doors, and spilled the first blood in the Blessed Realm; for Finwë alone had not fled from the horror of the Dark.

12-22-2003, 09:45 PM	#245
Nilpaurion Felagund Scion of The Faithful Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The brink, where hope and despair are akin. [The Philippines] Posts: 5,312	It's a person...The King is a straight clue... [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] __________________ フェンリス鴨 (Fenrisu Kamo) The plot, cut, defeated. I intend to copy this sig forever - so far so good...

12-22-2003, 09:49 PM	#246
Finwe Deathless Sun Join Date: May 2003 Location: The Royal Suite in the Halls of Mandos Posts: 2,609	Hmmm... Aragorn? __________________ But Melkor also was there, and he came to the house of Fëanor, and there he slew Finwë King of the Noldor before his doors, and spilled the first blood in the Blessed Realm; for Finwë alone had not fled from the horror of the Dark.

12-27-2003, 04:46 AM	#247
Nilpaurion Felagund Scion of The Faithful Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The brink, where hope and despair are akin. [The Philippines] Posts: 5,312	We have a negative, Sierra-Four. I repeat, we have a negative! Keep guessing. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] I might be kind enough for a hint, too. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] __________________ フェンリス鴨 (Fenrisu Kamo) The plot, cut, defeated. I intend to copy this sig forever - so far so good...

12-30-2003, 07:16 AM	#249
Nilpaurion Felagund Scion of The Faithful Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The brink, where hope and despair are akin. [The Philippines] Posts: 5,312	Haha! Wrong! Not so smart now, eh... Wait, you're freaking right! Aaaaah!!!!! __________________ フェンリス鴨 (Fenrisu Kamo) The plot, cut, defeated. I intend to copy this sig forever - so far so good...

12-30-2003, 11:06 PM	#251
Orual Speaker of the Dead Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Superbia Posts: 868	Take note that it's almost eleven, but I've got a wild guess...could it be Aragorn? I'm just working off of a connection to Eowyn ("Progressive female from the Mark") and something that sounds like "Rider" (Strider). I'm likely wrong, but why not try...? <font size=1 color=339966>[ 12:07 AM December 31, 2003: Message edited by: Orual ] __________________ "Oh, my god! I care so little, I almost passed out!" --Dr. Cox, "Scrubs"

12-31-2003, 09:39 PM	#252
Gil-numen Animated Skeleton Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Cuivienen...hanging out with the fading Elves Posts: 36	Meriadoc Brandybuck ? Dernhelm took him as a rider --------------------------- "Show it to me" Thingol to Beren

01-01-2004, 11:36 PM	#253
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	Nope. Think less literally and more cryptically. [img]smilies/evil.gif[/img] [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

01-03-2004, 06:04 PM	#254
Lord of Angmar Tyrannus Incorporalis Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: the North Posts: 833	This is a hard one to crack, Saucepan, but I shall take a rather imbecilic crack at it: Since "her" is the possessive form of "she" ("Possesive female"), and since you talk about a the Mark, meaning Rohan, perhaps you mean Herugrim, the sword of Theoden? __________________ ...where the instrument of intelligence is added to brute power and evil will, mankind is powerless in its own defence.

01-04-2004, 12:16 AM	#255
Nilpaurion Felagund Scion of The Faithful Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The brink, where hope and despair are akin. [The Philippines] Posts: 5,312	Or could it be Dernhelm? Or is my answer too obvious? [img]smilies/cool.gif[/img] __________________ フェンリス鴨 (Fenrisu Kamo) The plot, cut, defeated. I intend to copy this sig forever - so far so good...

01-04-2004, 10:05 PM	#256
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	Lord of Angmar, you are very close indeed. So close, in fact, that you are just one syllable out. Nope, Nilpaurion, not Dernhelm. __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

01-04-2004, 10:17 PM	#257
Nilpaurion Felagund Scion of The Faithful Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The brink, where hope and despair are akin. [The Philippines] Posts: 5,312	Herunúmen? __________________ フェンリス鴨 (Fenrisu Kamo) The plot, cut, defeated. I intend to copy this sig forever - so far so good...

01-05-2004, 10:43 AM	#258
Finwe Deathless Sun Join Date: May 2003 Location: The Royal Suite in the Halls of Mandos Posts: 2,609	Herucalmo? __________________ But Melkor also was there, and he came to the house of Fëanor, and there he slew Finwë King of the Noldor before his doors, and spilled the first blood in the Blessed Realm; for Finwë alone had not fled from the horror of the Dark.

01-05-2004, 11:18 AM	#259
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	Nope. Right two syllables, wrong ending. Try solving the cryptic clues (the Lord of Angmar has done some of this already). I will not be awarding a correct answer without an explanation. [img]smilies/evil.gif[/img] __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

01-05-2004, 02:13 PM	#260
Turambar Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Non-Stop Home Posts: 859	Herubrand ? L of A's cryptic reasoning + the name of a Rider of Rohan ? EDIT: plus "Mark" = brand ? So "Mark" was a double - a cryptic AND a straight clue ? <font size=1 color=339966>[ 4:05 PM January 05, 2004: Message edited by: Turambar ] __________________ In the upper air the fireflies move more slowly.

01-05-2004, 06:44 PM	#261
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	Actually, "Mark" was a cryptic clue for brand, with a sounded "you" (ie "u") before it. The straight clue was "Rider". But you were on the right track, and gave the corrct answer, so the thread is yours, Master of Doom. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

01-06-2004, 08:47 AM	#262
Turambar Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Non-Stop Home Posts: 859	Famed as caretaker of lost treasure. __________________ In the upper air the fireflies move more slowly.

01-06-2004, 09:55 AM	#263
Celebrian Haunting Spirit Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: First Homely House, Rivendell, Eriador Posts: 93	Smeagol or Smaug? Smeagol or Smaug? I choose Smaug __________________ "cen thec mid cræfte ond thyssum cnyhtum wes/ lara lithe." "Show yourself strong, and be kind to the kids." ~ WealhÞeow, Beowulf (1219-20)

01-06-2004, 10:33 AM	#264
Turambar Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Non-Stop Home Posts: 859	No, neither. Nice avy ! [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] __________________ In the upper air the fireflies move more slowly.

01-06-2004, 10:45 AM	#265
Celebrian Haunting Spirit Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: First Homely House, Rivendell, Eriador Posts: 93	Our friend Thorin of the Arkenstone? Thanks! and thank you for the Yul inspiration! hums and drums on her computer desk "The Twelve Days of Christmas" __________________ "cen thec mid cræfte ond thyssum cnyhtum wes/ lara lithe." "Show yourself strong, and be kind to the kids." ~ WealhÞeow, Beowulf* (1219-20)

01-06-2004, 11:24 AM	#266
Turambar Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Non-Stop Home Posts: 859	No - there's a "cryptic" clue in there. __________________ In the upper air the fireflies move more slowly.

01-06-2004, 11:43 AM	#267
Celebrian Haunting Spirit Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: First Homely House, Rivendell, Eriador Posts: 93	Great...something? Edit for clarity: That is, does the word "Great" figure in? <font size=1 color=339966>[ 12:45 PM January 06, 2004: Message edited by: Celebrian ] __________________ "cen thec mid cræfte ond thyssum cnyhtum wes/ lara lithe." "Show yourself strong, and be kind to the kids." ~ WealhÞeow, Beowulf (1219-20)

01-06-2004, 12:13 PM	#268
Turambar Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Non-Stop Home Posts: 859	Nyet. __________________ In the upper air the fireflies move more slowly.

01-07-2004, 01:58 AM	#269
Gwaihir the Windlord Essence of Darkness Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Evermore Posts: 1,420	...nyet?

01-07-2004, 08:57 AM	#270
Turambar Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Non-Stop Home Posts: 859	Errr - no, the word "Great" does not appear in the answer. __________________ In the upper air the fireflies move more slowly.

01-08-2004, 02:40 PM	#271
Celebrian Haunting Spirit Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: First Homely House, Rivendell, Eriador Posts: 93	Steward of Gondor? __________________ "cen thec mid cræfte ond thyssum cnyhtum wes/ lara lithe." "Show yourself strong, and be kind to the kids." ~ WealhÞeow, Beowulf (1219-20)

01-08-2004, 03:06 PM	#272
Turambar Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Non-Stop Home Posts: 859	Nope. HINT: A "cryptic" clue (by my definition) means a Scramble, a word-within-words, a "sounds like", etc. HINT 2: "stolen treasure" might be more accurate. __________________ In the upper air the fireflies move more slowly.

01-08-2004, 03:21 PM	#273
Kath Everlasting Whiteness Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Perusing the laminated book of dreams Posts: 4,533	I can't remember his name but maybe the guy who stole the Silmarils? If this is wrong could you still tell me who it was cos I've lost my copy of the Silmarillion - doh! __________________ “If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world.”

01-08-2004, 06:33 PM	#275
Finwe Deathless Sun Join Date: May 2003 Location: The Royal Suite in the Halls of Mandos Posts: 2,609	Beren? __________________ But Melkor also was there, and he came to the house of Fëanor, and there he slew Finwë King of the Noldor before his doors, and spilled the first blood in the Blessed Realm; for Finwë alone had not fled from the horror of the Dark.

01-09-2004, 03:58 AM	#276
Nilpaurion Felagund Scion of The Faithful Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The brink, where hope and despair are akin. [The Philippines] Posts: 5,312	The answer would be Ascar. __________________ フェンリス鴨 (Fenrisu Kamo) The plot, cut, defeated. I intend to copy this sig forever - so far so good...

01-09-2004, 08:02 AM	#277
Turambar Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Non-Stop Home Posts: 859	Nilpaurion has it - the river Ascar, where the stolen treasure of Doriath was drowned. __________________ In the upper air the fireflies move more slowly.

01-10-2004, 06:27 PM	#278
*The Barrow-Wight* Night In Wight Satin Join Date: May 2000 Posts: 4,043	** Anouncement If one cryptic clue at a time isn't enough, try The Saucepan Man's Tolkien Cryptic Crossword! __________________ The Barrow-Wight**