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Azaelia if you are itchin' to get back into WW, I encourage you to join Mithalwen's WWJ that will hopefully be starting up soon. It'll be back to the original gaming.
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Yes! Please do! We are eager for more players!
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Itinerant Songster
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: The Edge of Faerie
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I changed my mind. I disagree with double lynchings. I see no real problem with the game taking a few days longer. Thanks for your eloquence, Eomer; good reminder. .... signed, the most unbandersnatchy LMP.
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Due to the fact that I thought the issue was settled (Nilp! What did I tell you about putting down your foot as Mod? You are Mod and they are not!), I have not yet weighed in on the Double Lynchings issue.
I say NO Double-Lynchings. I do not like them, and I agree with Eomer as to most of my reasons why. I find that Double-Lynchings being permitted are very prone to being used for orchestrated lynchings. I'm personally of the opinion that Single Lynchings are more truly indicative on later days for finding voting trends, and they are more enjoyable games. Just my opinion, o' course.
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#2445 |
Shade of Carn Dûm
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: In the warm bosom of a Warg
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Well, isn't this interesting? I go out on a limb and say no to double lynchings and before I know it everybody agrees with me? I've started a bandwagon, and that's very suspicious!
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Auspicious Wraith
Join Date: May 2002
Location: The Netherlands
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Shade of Carn Dûm
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: In the warm bosom of a Warg
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Thankee, kind sir!
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#2448 |
Shade of Carn Dûm
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Ciudad de Lago del Sal
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Long time, No Garin.
I had to make an excellent spinach-artichoke dip for a 'baby shower' yesterday and then had to attend said baby shower. If you could just see the looks on the face of the men... Great time Okay. 1) No double lynchings 2) I said I didn't care but 5:30 if I must vote.... 3) I will be the town surgeon/barber
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I thought the decision of double lynchings was already made:
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Join Date: Jan 2003
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Exactly. My concern is that it is hard for anyone without the gift of foresight to be able to commit to such a long period of time without RL jeopardising their ability to play.
It is always annoying when players have to absent themselves, even through unforeseen circumstances, and I fear a very long game might be riddled with such absences. Eg I was originally told the game would last a fortnight, which is fine, but without double lynchings this game could run on for well over three weeks...I'm going on holiday on April 4 and I hope the game would be over by then, but there may be others with similar concerns, what with it being Easter break...
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Join Date: Dec 2005
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Join Date: Dec 2005
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Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: The Edge of Faerie
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Bag-Endless-Fuel
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While I have no experience in the matter, I have been convinced by the various arguments made against double lynchings.
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Join Date: Dec 2005
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I think this is first time anyone has agreed with me. I need to breathe into a paper bag, now. By the way, what is the best thread to discuss the homicide/suicide that took place at my apartment complex? This will be a great game because I am officially 'bonkers.' I'll go now. I won't drop out because I think that I am destined to be in a Nilp-modded game. This will be a great game and I can't wait to be lynched in the 2nd round. Did I mention that it was a son that gunned down his mother? It is like the 80s movie "Pretty in Pink" but with more gore. When I show an aversion to lynching/killing people you will understand. Anyways, let the games begin.
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Join Date: Jan 2002
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#2458 |
Shade of Carn Dûm
Join Date: Sep 2003
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! No werebear! I've been converted to the no camp! Sure, it'd be great fun to be the werebear, but I really do think it ruins the spirit of the game, and as a villager in a werebear village I can tell you it's horrible! So that's all you need to know Naria!
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#2459 |
Riveting Ribbiter
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Assigned to Mordor
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Don't want the Werebear. I think there are already enough teams in the village without adding another Werecreature.
I don't mind double lynchings, but vote against anything larger than doubles due to concerns over the previously mentioned lynch all male/female players at once strategy.
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#2461 |
Shade of Carn Dûm
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: abaft the beam
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No Bear. Good heavens! We've already got two separate teams whose goal is to kill everyone!
Also, as I've said before, adding any other "wild card" elements (like the Cursed) will diminish our ability to judge how well the Lovers element works. I'm with Celuien on lynching. The reason I don't like games that disallow double lynchings is that, in my experience, single-lynch-only games can lead to more careless voting. It effectively means that the moderator will eliminate the consequences for people who couldn't be bothered to check the vote count before voting. Oops! Caused a tie? Didn't bother to vote when you could have broken a tie? No worries, the moderator will clean it up for you. ![]() Now, there is another problem that Celuien brings up, though: the orchestrated mass lynching. This is something that I think is against the spirit of the game--we could indeed eliminate the lovers by lynching all of one gender, but that's like catching dolpins in your tuna nets. So I think I'm in agreement with Celuien that double lynchings should be allowed, but triples and higher should not be. Those of us who don't like to use double lynchings (and I'm one of them, btw) should campaign against them DURING THE GAME; but the rules shouldn't be set up to save the day from careless voting. All of this is sort of a general rant, though--I am happy to play no matter what the lynch rule is. I guess I'll have to mod a game myself someday and set the rules just the way I like them. ![]() This is going to be a very long game, though, as Lalaith says. I am a little concerned about that, but we'll just have to let it play out.
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Itinerant Songster
Join Date: Jan 2002
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Hey, it's not my mod anyway. So there ain't gonna be a werebear 'cuz Nilp said no. I see the point against it anyway in a Lovers game. And I agree with no mass lynchings. Spirit of the game and all that. I think Naria's query in my direction got answered, so I'll shut up now.
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#2464 |
Scion of The Faithful
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: The brink, where hope and despair are akin. [The Philippines]
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Apparently, 'Vous ne pouvez pas passer' was meant for me.
![]() Enedwaith, here are the final decisions. ~ YES Double lynchings, for fears of a trés long game (I wouldn't mind two weeks, but three? ![]() ~ NO Ranger and Hunter (sorry for flip-flop; lynch me if you want ![]() ~ NO Werebear, obviously (this was my second option, but since Formendaga told me to put my foot down and not be swayed away from the Lovers-centric idea . . . ) ~ DAY/NIGHT cycling time is 5:30am GMT. NIGHT 1 will start tomorrow. I will be posting the game thread (with all the rules) later, I hope.
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Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: IN it, but not OF it
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So this will be like the original Werewolf game, only there's an additional wolf, an additional Seer, an expanded village, and lovers thrown into the mix.
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Okay, stick with your 5:30 times! Just don't expect me to like them.
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Hauntress of the Havens
Join Date: Mar 2003
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Oh, yeah. You can expect way early votes from me, too. Like three hours into the game, more often than not.
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Shady She-Penguin
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: In a far land beyond the Sea
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Early votes from me also. From almost 10 hours before the closing time to about three hours before the voting time...
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Blithe Spirit
Join Date: Jan 2003
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Ditto...except it'll be five hours before closing at the latest.
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Energetic Essence
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My voting for the next week or so should all be shortly before closing time. After that, it's going to vary.
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Auspicious Wraith
Join Date: May 2002
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It won't matter if most of the votes are early, because most of the discussion will be early too. Ipso, facto.
The Werebear... *shudders* If that had been introduced I would have walked. Anyway, hoom, hroom....time to get into character. ![]() Here's hoping for a good game everyone!
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Join Date: Dec 2004
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I'm just checking, but isn't the game beginning about twelve hours from now?
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Join Date: Sep 2003
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Correcto mondo, Thinlómien. Oooh, I can hardly wait. It'll be an early rise for me in the morrow!
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Blithe Spirit
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em...has anyone had their roles yet?
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Shade of Carn Dûm
Join Date: Sep 2003
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Well I can't speak for everyone, but I haven't had. I wouldn't worry, though, plenty time left for Nilp. We could get the PMs at 5am, remember, so no need to worry.
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Shady She-Penguin
Join Date: Dec 2004
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Thanks, Samwise.
Plenty of time indeed... ![]() But I trust Nilp to do it in time. Though I'm really excited. I would like to know my role soon.
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Sword of Spirit
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Oh, I'm around.
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I haven't recieved a role yet, either...
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Join Date: Dec 2004
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Twelve hours and 54 minutes? Eleven hours and 54 minutes, if the time is 5:30 AM. Right?
And as anyone hasn't yet got the roles, I think Nilp hasn't just posted them yet. Don't worry, Thangy.
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Join Date: Aug 2003
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Join Date: Dec 2004
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