Another mistranslation - Page 6 - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Joy · 09-29-2002, 01:19 PM

Sorry it took so long, had a rough week.

Quote:

And anyways these thoughts are nothing but a delusion,... He'd see me and ram me, before I could even scream. He see me, and fairly fast, if I donned the Ring on now, even in Mordor.

Don't know if this is any good. It's my first try at this. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

HerenIstarion · 10-01-2002, 11:19 AM

that must be Sam entering Mordor

Joy · 10-01-2002, 02:55 PM

Very good HI.

HerenIstarion · 10-07-2002, 01:31 AM

same apology here

next one:

Quote:

It could not get very far, let us poke in the ferns over there. We’ll get him like a rabbit and then will see what a kind of bird it is

burrahobbit · 10-11-2002, 02:29 PM

Rangers in Ithilien, about Gollum.

HerenIstarion · 10-12-2002, 12:46 AM

aye, welcome to your domain, burra [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

you are right, take it up

burrahobbit · 10-12-2002, 02:01 AM

Yes, doubly mine.

Quote:

Blur smell it! Leaves out of it elf land gah! They stink. He clamber in them the tree , and he be able ablution facts a little at his hands , my agreeable hands.

ENGLISH--NORWEGIAN--ENGLISH

Childlike Empress · 10-12-2002, 01:03 PM

Gollum?

burrahobbit · 10-15-2002, 08:55 AM

Yess Gollum. Where?

Childlike Empress · 10-16-2002, 01:03 AM

Soon after he joined up with Frodo and Sam? Looking, I've found at least half a dozen likely passages.

Perhaps,

Quote:

"Yes, yes, and Sam stinks!" answered Gollum. "Poor Smeagol smells it, but good Smeagol bears it. Helps nice master. But that's no matter. The air's moving, change is coming. Smeagol wonders; he's not happy."

But probably not. It sounds like he's muttering unpleasantries about Sam and/or Frodo. How close am I on a scale of cold to hot?

[ October 16, 2002: Message edited by: Childlike Empress ]

HerenIstarion · 10-23-2002, 05:38 AM

[quote]Smeagol smells it!Leaves out of the elf-country, gah! They stinks. He climbed in those trees, and he couldn't wash the smell off his hands, my nice hands[quote]

HerenIstarion · 10-30-2002, 03:33 AM

burra?

HerenIstarion · 11-13-2002, 12:19 AM

well, once again: burra? [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

burrahobbit · 11-13-2002, 12:35 AM

OH! Send me a PM next time I seem to forget. Heren got it.

HerenIstarion · 11-13-2002, 01:00 AM

well, all right [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

next (easy) one:

Quote:

But it darkness seems more weighing, to think about everything the lamps.

Gwaihir the Windlord · 11-13-2002, 03:47 AM

Hmmm... in this game, you kind of have to have either a)read the books recently or b)have a good memory, neither of which applies to me at this moment. But carry on please, I'll join you soon. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

HerenIstarion · 11-13-2002, 06:10 AM

Welcome to the realm of nas-s-sty mistrans-s-slators-s-s, Windlord [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

gralin musicteeth · 11-13-2002, 06:57 PM

*kick myself for joining in on the 6TH PAGE!* I'm a bit confuzzled. if someone would like to spare the time to explain why this is not making any sense to me, or direct me to somewhere else where i may obtain this information, i would be very much obliged. or you could flatly refuse and kick me in the teeth. either way, i will have learned a lesson.

Lostgaeriel · 11-14-2002, 12:56 AM

Hi gralin musicteeth!

I assume that you mean that you don't know how to play this mistranslated quotes game. And since there are probably others also in the dark, I hope I can illuminate.

An exact quote from one of the books is entered into an online translation engine such as
Babel Fish or InterTran once or a number of times to scramble it. (Such as English to French to Spanish to Mandarin to English again.) Then it is posted.

How to unscramble it is your own lookout!

Lostgaeriel · 11-14-2002, 01:12 AM

Of course, now that I've had a chance to think about this one for a few minutes, I think I know what it is. If my friend HerenIstarion hadn't said it was easy, I would never have come up with it. (From my experience that usually means it's from tLotR.)

Anyway -

Quote:

But it darkness seems more weighing, to think about everything the lamps.

is Sam in Moria responding to Gimli singing the Song of Durin

Quote:

But it makes the darkness seem heavier, thinking of all those lamps.

HerenIstarion · 11-14-2002, 01:53 AM

I find it more amusing to translate it myself. In this case I'm able to convert idioms to corresponding expressions and than it bocomes even funnier when gets back to English

But I must confess last one has undergone FreeTranslation.com treatement [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

BTW, we still can kick you in the teeth, gralin, but just for the sake of heavenly melody which, I expect, will flow out of your mouth after this [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img]

HerenIstarion · 11-14-2002, 02:17 AM

and yes, Lostgaeriel gets it

Lostgaeriel · 11-14-2002, 08:34 PM

Why, oh why do I try to solve these? I hate generating new mistranslations! Never again!

Quote:

The remainder there under an in brief during of the doubt, that we should use.

HerenIstarion · 11-15-2002, 01:13 AM

That sounds like Gandalf about Sauron in the last debate of Captains of the West.

Lostgaeriel · 11-15-2002, 11:51 AM

No-o, it's not from The Last Debate, although it is from a similar conversation.

HerenIstarion · 11-18-2002, 02:42 AM

alrighty than, that's Gandalf to Aragorn just after Pippin's 'fool-of-a-tookish' stealing of the Palantir:

Quote:

There remains a short while of doubt which we must use

Lostgaeriel · 11-18-2002, 07:33 PM

Yes, although I believe that Gandalf was also speaking to Théoden and Éomer as well as Aragorn.

Go!

HerenIstarion · 11-19-2002, 01:18 AM

thanks

next round:

Quote:

I take am goods it at to received always simpler than below in upper part. This how do not fly can, can jump!

Lostgaeriel · 12-10-2002, 10:43 AM

Thanks for the hint, HerenIstarion.

That was Sam to Frodo as they look for a way down from the outer ridge of the Emyn Muil.

Quote:

Sam knelt beside him and peered reluctantly over the edge. Then he glanced up at the great cliff rising up, away on their left. 'Easier! he grunted. 'Well, I suppose it's always easier getting down than up. Those as can't fly can jump!'

HerenIstarion · 12-11-2002, 01:21 AM

yes, Lostgaeriel, that's the thing [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] proceed

Lostgaeriel · 12-12-2002, 11:51 AM

Quote:

Eh on the level? Possess shall you district me shore up? Desire you admit I no peace all in all in the night or day?

burrahobbit · 12-27-2002, 02:55 AM

Hint?

HerenIstarion · 12-27-2002, 03:49 AM

Saruman to Gandalf and Co at Orthank:

Quote:

'Why must you disturb my rest? Will you give me no peace at all by night or day?'

um?

[ December 27, 2002: Message edited by: HerenIstarion ]

Lostgaeriel · 01-02-2003, 05:35 PM

Yes, that's it, HerenIstarion. Go!

My mistranslation includes the 'Well?' at the beginning of his grousing.

HerenIstarion · 01-20-2003, 04:30 AM

Excuse me for a delay. I'm being nusy of late, alas. Anyways, here it comes the next mistranslation:

Quote:

Death you can give gained or unmerited; but not the titles which I will take of you of lowly, neither spy, nor servant

burrahobbit · 01-21-2003, 12:26 AM

Quote:

Then Beren answered: 'Death you can give me earned or unearned; but the names I will not take from you of baseborn, nor spy, nor thrall. By the ring of Felagund, that he gave to Barahir my father on the battle field of the North, my house has not earned such names from any Elf, be he king or no.'

HerenIstarion · 01-29-2003, 12:11 AM

yup [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

burrahobbit · 02-01-2003, 02:53 AM

Quote:

"That which is you?'"

"Wandering thrall, the proof went ahead of eleven, met and troestete."

english-german-french-english

burrahobbit · 03-07-2003, 07:44 PM

It's from the Sil.

HerenIstarion · 03-31-2003, 12:32 PM

Must be Gwindor/Turin conversation

10-01-2002, 11:19 AM	#202
HerenIstarion Deadnight Chanter Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 4,244	that must be Sam entering Mordor __________________ Egroeg Ihkhsal - Would you believe in the love at first sight? - Yes I'm certain that it happens all the time!

10-01-2002, 02:55 PM	#203
Joy Spirit of a Warrior Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Wandering Posts: 1,012	Very good HI. __________________ God bless, Joy KingdomWarrior@hotmail.com http://kingdomWarrior.jlym.com As the hart panteth after the water brooks, so panteth my soul after thee, O God. My soul thirsteth for God, for the living God: when shall I come and appear before God?

10-11-2002, 02:29 PM	#205
burrahobbit Hidden Spirit Join Date: May 2000 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 1,424	Rangers in Ithilien, about Gollum. __________________ What's a burrahobbit got to do with my pocket, anyways?

10-12-2002, 12:46 AM	#206
HerenIstarion Deadnight Chanter Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 4,244	aye, welcome to your domain, burra [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] you are right, take it up __________________ Egroeg Ihkhsal - Would you believe in the love at first sight? - Yes I'm certain that it happens all the time!

10-12-2002, 01:03 PM	#208
Childlike Empress Wight Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Fantasia Posts: 109	Gollum? __________________ Fantasia is with you in your heart. It is the story of which we are a part. Take my hand, come with me, join in my Neverending Story.

10-15-2002, 08:55 AM	#209
burrahobbit Hidden Spirit Join Date: May 2000 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 1,424	Yess Gollum. Where? __________________ What's a burrahobbit got to do with my pocket, anyways?

10-23-2002, 05:38 AM	#211
HerenIstarion Deadnight Chanter Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 4,244	[quote]Smeagol smells it!Leaves out of the elf-country, gah! They stinks. He climbed in those trees, and he couldn't wash the smell off his hands, my nice hands[quote] __________________ Egroeg Ihkhsal - Would you believe in the love at first sight? - Yes I'm certain that it happens all the time!

10-30-2002, 03:33 AM	#212
HerenIstarion Deadnight Chanter Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 4,244	burra? __________________ Egroeg Ihkhsal - Would you believe in the love at first sight? - Yes I'm certain that it happens all the time!

11-13-2002, 12:19 AM	#213
HerenIstarion Deadnight Chanter Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 4,244	well, once again: burra? [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] __________________ Egroeg Ihkhsal - Would you believe in the love at first sight? - Yes I'm certain that it happens all the time!

11-13-2002, 12:35 AM	#214
burrahobbit Hidden Spirit Join Date: May 2000 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 1,424	OH! Send me a PM next time I seem to forget. Heren got it. __________________ What's a burrahobbit got to do with my pocket, anyways?

11-13-2002, 03:47 AM	#216
Gwaihir the Windlord Essence of Darkness Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Evermore Posts: 1,420	Hmmm... in this game, you kind of have to have either a)read the books recently or b)have a good memory, neither of which applies to me at this moment. But carry on please, I'll join you soon. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

11-13-2002, 06:10 AM	#217
HerenIstarion Deadnight Chanter Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 4,244	Welcome to the realm of nas-s-sty mistrans-s-slators-s-s, Windlord [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] __________________ Egroeg Ihkhsal - Would you believe in the love at first sight? - Yes I'm certain that it happens all the time!

11-13-2002, 06:57 PM	#218
gralin musicteeth Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Tossing half-sick between grotesque reality and savage, frightening dreams Posts: 360	kick myself for joining in on the 6TH PAGE! I'm a bit confuzzled. if someone would like to spare the time to explain why this is not making any sense to me, or direct me to somewhere else where i may obtain this information, i would be very much obliged. or you could flatly refuse and kick me in the teeth. either way, i will have learned a lesson. __________________ Where was the stooped and mealy-coloured old man I used to call Poppa when the merry-go-round broke down?

11-14-2002, 12:56 AM	#219
Lostgaeriel Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Toronto the Good Posts: 477	Hi gralin musicteeth! I assume that you mean that you don't know how to play this mistranslated quotes game. And since there are probably others also in the dark, I hope I can illuminate. An exact quote from one of the books is entered into an online translation engine such as Babel Fish or InterTran once or a number of times to scramble it. (Such as English to French to Spanish to Mandarin to English again.) Then it is posted. How to unscramble it is your own lookout! __________________ Elen síla lúmenn’ omentielvo, a star shines on the hour of our meeting.

11-14-2002, 01:53 AM	#221
HerenIstarion Deadnight Chanter Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 4,244	I find it more amusing to translate it myself. In this case I'm able to convert idioms to corresponding expressions and than it bocomes even funnier when gets back to English But I must confess last one has undergone FreeTranslation.com treatement [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] BTW, we still can kick you in the teeth, gralin, but just for the sake of heavenly melody which, I expect, will flow out of your mouth after this [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img] __________________ Egroeg Ihkhsal - Would you believe in the love at first sight? - Yes I'm certain that it happens all the time!

11-14-2002, 02:17 AM	#222
HerenIstarion Deadnight Chanter Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 4,244	and yes, Lostgaeriel gets it __________________ Egroeg Ihkhsal - Would you believe in the love at first sight? - Yes I'm certain that it happens all the time!

11-15-2002, 01:13 AM	#224
HerenIstarion Deadnight Chanter Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 4,244	That sounds like Gandalf about Sauron in the last debate of Captains of the West. __________________ Egroeg Ihkhsal - Would you believe in the love at first sight? - Yes I'm certain that it happens all the time!

11-15-2002, 11:51 AM	#225
Lostgaeriel Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Toronto the Good Posts: 477	No-o, it's not from The Last Debate, although it is from a similar conversation. __________________ Elen síla lúmenn’ omentielvo, a star shines on the hour of our meeting.

11-18-2002, 07:33 PM	#227
Lostgaeriel Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Toronto the Good Posts: 477	Yes, although I believe that Gandalf was also speaking to Théoden and Éomer as well as Aragorn. Go! __________________ Elen síla lúmenn’ omentielvo, a star shines on the hour of our meeting.

12-11-2002, 01:21 AM	#230
HerenIstarion Deadnight Chanter Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 4,244	yes, Lostgaeriel, that's the thing [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] proceed __________________ Egroeg Ihkhsal - Would you believe in the love at first sight? - Yes I'm certain that it happens all the time!

12-27-2002, 02:55 AM	#232
burrahobbit Hidden Spirit Join Date: May 2000 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 1,424	Hint? __________________ What's a burrahobbit got to do with my pocket, anyways?

01-02-2003, 05:35 PM	#234
Lostgaeriel Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Toronto the Good Posts: 477	Yes, that's it, HerenIstarion. Go! My mistranslation includes the 'Well?' at the beginning of his grousing. __________________ Elen síla lúmenn’ omentielvo, a star shines on the hour of our meeting.

01-29-2003, 12:11 AM	#237
HerenIstarion Deadnight Chanter Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 4,244	yup [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] __________________ Egroeg Ihkhsal - Would you believe in the love at first sight? - Yes I'm certain that it happens all the time!

03-07-2003, 07:44 PM	#239
burrahobbit Hidden Spirit Join Date: May 2000 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 1,424	It's from the Sil. __________________ What's a burrahobbit got to do with my pocket, anyways?

03-31-2003, 12:32 PM	#240
HerenIstarion Deadnight Chanter Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 4,244	Must be Gwindor/Turin conversation __________________ Egroeg Ihkhsal - Would you believe in the love at first sight? - Yes I'm certain that it happens all the time!