Tol-in-Gaurhoth LVII - Chess Game for Middle Earth: Game Thread

[the phantom]

Originally Posted by Nerwen

Your theory, meanwhile, is that innocent Fea was trying to hint to the Seer?

Yeah. Like I did with Boro a couple games ago.

[Brinniel]

Originally Posted by Nemo

But I don't want to let Fea die, not yet.

Originally Posted by Nogrod

But how about you all picking the "save Fea" -argument whatever the cost? Doesn't it look suspicious at all?

Haha, this is totally reminding me of last game.

And if it really is just like last game, it'd mean that Fea is innocent. But what would that make the other two candidates I had in mind?

Of course, just because something similar happened in last game doesn't it'll have the same results this time around. But it does make me more wary about lynching Fea.

[Mnemosyne]

Brinn, don't forget that last game you were evil.

[the phantom]

Does anyone have an updated voting tally?

[Mirandir]

I'll make one if you give me a minute.

[Isabellkya]

Kath -> Ner
Fea -> Hansy
Dury -> Sally
Eonwe -> Gwath
Eomer -> Sally
Rikae -> Eonwe
Hansy -> Fea
Lari -> Nog
Nog -> Fea
Wilwa -> Eonwe
Gwath -> Fea
Izz -> Gwath

Fea 3, Eonwe 2, Gwath 2, Sally 2, Nerwen, Hansy, Nog 1

X'd with Mira and left out a comma.

[Mirandir]

Kath ++Ner
Fea ++Hansy
Dury ++Sally
Steve ++Gwath
Eomer ++Sally
Rikae ++Steve
Hansy ++Fea
Lari ++Nog
Nog ++Fea
wilwa ++Steve
Gwath ++ Fea
Isa ++Gwath

Fea - 3, Sally - 2, Steve - 2, Gwath - 2, Nerwen, Hansy,and Nog - 1

Nerwen, tp, Brinn, sally, Mnem, Kath, Hansy and Mira still to vote.

[Brinniel]

Originally Posted by Nemo

Brinn, don't forget that last game you were evil.

Yeah, but I had no part in the whole "save Fea" thing. In fact, I was one who continued to advocate her lynching after no one else did. So, what are you trying to imply? That if this was an exact repeat then Gwath (who seems to be our rising candidate of late) is also innocent and Nogrod's evil?

But of course I don't expect this to be an exact replica of what happened that Day 3. But it'd be funny if it was.

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Mirandir

Fea - 3, Sally - 2, Steve - 2, Gwath - 2, Nerwen, Hansy,and Nog - 1

Nerwen, tp, Brinn, sally, Mnem, Kath, Hansy and Mira still to vote.

So everything's open still with 8 votes to come...

[the phantom]

Originally Posted by Nog

What I think is that she has no good intentions - whatever her role is. You may be right about her being the Black Pawn. It's the most probable answer. I agree. But as you said yourself: better a cobbler hanged than a gifted - or do you have a more believable case against a baddie? With Fea I feel we get someone who's not on the good side.

Yes, I can see that, and that's why I'm not demanding that you change your vote or anything. Your reasoning is fine.

It just so happens that I think mine is good too and I don't want anyone else to vote for her. I want to save her if I can.

*sigh*

At least if my efforts are not successful, she is probably not gifted, and almost certainly not a Bishop dream. With her track record of getting lynched, I can't imagine the Bishop using his Night 1 dream on her. So from a strict probability perspective, we could make much worse lynches. I'm just thinking we could also do better.

[satansaloser2005]

Waiting for the vote tally just in case (like to avoid a tie if at all possible, since I believe it's random kill in those cases) but for now I'm thinking of voting Fea.


Her comments earlier were fairly normal for her, but at the same time....bad vibes and all. Hansy also bothers me greatly, and Nerwen (not that she's said much, but still) trips my radar as well, as in genuinely trips it, just because of how she reacted to being voted. The problem is that Nerwen doesn't look bad enough to lynch (because I know I always paint her evil and don't want to err just because I'm a silly girl) and I hate killing newbies on the first Day. If Hansy still bothers me toMorrow, though, I'll be double plussing him.



Checking the thread again and then voting. Oh, and apologies for not being around much toDay. I'll explain in another post.

[satansaloser2005]

++Fea

[Brinniel]

Nerwen, tp, Brinn, sally, Mnem, Kath, Hansy and Mira still to vote.

Kath already voted.

[Isabellkya]

Mira - Kath and Hansy have already voted. xD


Edit. Replaced a comma with a dash.
X'd since Brin's #208

[Mnemosyne]

All right, I don't feel terribly great about this, but

++Eonwe

Although I'm not terribly pleased to have Rikae in the ranks of people who voted for him...

Voting for him because he hasn't said much that's contributed to the game. A bit of Queen-spec (which I rather disagree with), banter, and then a random vote.

Nobody looks terribly suspicious. But while some people make me feel hot and cold, this one makes me feel decidedly lukewarm. I'd much rather lynch an unknown than someone I have some sort of a handle on. And I don't have a handle on anyone regarding Blackishness.

[the phantom]

Ah, crap. I hate this part. I have nothing against Gwath, Steve, or Sally, but I feel like I need to vote for one of them to save Fea.

++Gwath

EDIT: x-post with several people

[Brinniel]

++Gwath

EDIT: X-ed with the last two

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by Isabellkya

Mira - Kath and Hansy have already voted. xD


Edit. Replaced a comma with a dash.
X'd since Brin's #208

What she said.


K, so I went to pick up my new laptop cord today but there wasn't the usual free internet connection that I pick up when I'm at my house so I wasn't able to get on before I went to my youth group function. And I only returned from that....erm, 20 minutes ago? Ish? So yeah, sorry about that. *shrugs*

[Shastanis Althreduin]

Voting is locked at 12:00 am, so... now.

Fea and Gwath to be put up for lynching, chosen by randomizer.

[satansaloser2005]

I don't want who dies left up to chance. Anyone gonna break the tie?


EDIT: x'd with Shasta. Guess not.

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by the phantom

It just so happens that I think mine is good too and I don't want anyone else to vote for her. I want to save her if I can.

*sigh*

Looking at Sally's vote I must say I will join your sigh...

*looks at the last posts* Oh my!

Numbers, anyone?

EDIT: Blah... too late.

[the phantom]

Yeah, so Gwath is probably innocent too. But I just don't feel that I've got as a good a read on him as with Fea.

And despite how much we disagree, I still think Nog is fine. And if he's right about Fea then I'll support whatever he does tomorrow.

EDIT: x-posted with bunches again

[Nerwen]

Well, guess I missed the vote. I'd like to point out, Shasta, that you cut us off before the deadline.

[Shastanis Althreduin]

Originally Posted by Nerwen

Well, guess I missed the vote. I'd like to point out, Shasta, that you cut us off before the deadline.

Well, it wasn't intentional. I clicked "Post" thirty seconds after my computer's clock went to 12:00 specifically to make sure I wasn't cutting anyone off. I guess the Downs' clock hadn't quite turned over yet, but I don't see any votes in the cross posts marked 12:00 am. I'd have counted them if there were.

[Shastanis Althreduin]

Day 1

It was early in the chess match. Pieces were moved back and forth, sometimes across the board, no piece being taken. The tension began to heat up towards the end of the day as the two players jockeyed for position.

Then Gandalf made an error. A small error, to be sure, but an error nonetheless. Sauron crowed in triumph and knocked the pawn containing the soul of Gwathagor off into the fiery abyss of Mount Doom, replacing it with one of his own.

"Your move, O Wizard of Light," mocked the dark one.

Pieces:
Mirandir
Durelin
Feanor of the Peredhil
Isabellkya
Nerwen
Eomer of the Rohirrim
the phantom
Brinniel
satansaloser2005
Lariren Shadow
wilwarin538
Rikae
Eonwe
Nogrod
Mnemosyne
Kath
Hansy

Taken:
Shasta - Kxe4, Night 1 (Moderator)
Gwathagor - d3xe4 (Lynched), Day 1 (White Pawn)

[Shastanis Althreduin]

Night 2

After throwing some poorly worded insults (on the part of Sauron) and some carefully-chosen elegantly elocuted epithets (on the part of Gandalf), the two sorcerers went back to their chess game. Gandalf made two mistakes, one right after the other, and Sauron crowed again in triumph as he took first a pawn, then a rook from Gandalf's side of the board.

"My goodness, White Wizard, one would think you're hardly trying..."

Pieces:
Mirandir
Durelin
Feanor of the Peredhil
Isabellkya
the phantom
Brinniel
satansaloser2005
Lariren Shadow
wilwarin538
Rikae
Eonwe
Nogrod
Mnemosyne
Kath
Hansy

Taken:
Shasta - Ke3xe4, Night 1 (Moderator)
Gwathagor - d3xe4 (Lynched), Day 1 (White Pawn)
Eomer of the Rohirrim - Qd8xh4 (Killed), Night 2 (White Pawn)
Nerwen - Bc8xa6 (Killed), Night 2 (White Rook)

[Mnemosyne]

The kills: wow. Rather disappointed that Eomer's gone; he was terse but he actually said something when he posted. I suspect he was killed because he was being helpful, but wasn't one of those Gold Star kills that the Bishop might have been protecting.

Not as sure about Nerwen, though. And darn, I wish we could've been told who killed whom!

Still recovering from the aftermath of yesterDay. Currently I'd really like an explanation for Sally's last-fifteen-minutes-of-the-Day vote for Fea, aside from "bad vibes." You can do better than that, my dear. And I'm really quite miffed that it was Gwath who got the tie, even though he looked vaguely suspicious for jumping on Nog's reasoning like that. I considered retracting to put him in the lead after that flurry of crosspost votes, but couldn't do it in good conscience since he was giving information and appeared to be nothing more to me than a misguided innocent.

Ah, well. What's done is done.

Whom're we killin' today?

[satansaloser2005]

Day One Votes

Kath-->Nerwen at 6:36am
Fea-->Hansy at 4:37pm
Durie-->Sally at 4:39pm
Steve-->Gwath at 4:55pm
Eomer-->Sally at 6:18pm
Rikae-->Steve at 9:26pm
Hansy-->Fea at 9:45pm
Lari-->Nog at 10:17pm
Nog-->Fea at 10:25pm
Willa-->Steve at 10:36pm
Gwath-->Fea at 10:41pm
Izzy-->Gwath at 11:37pm
Sally-->Fea at 11:56pm
Nemo-->Steve at 11:58pm
Phantom-->Gwath at 11:58pm
Brinn-->Gwath at 11:59pm

Did not vote: Mira

Times are Central, GMT-6, known baddies are underlined and known innocents italicized. And for anyone who happens to not know, Steve is Eon.

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

Originally Posted by Mnemosyne

And darn, I wish we could've been told who killed whom!

Mnemo, we were told:

Originally Posted by Shasta

Eomer of the Rohirrim - Qd8xh4 (Killed), Night 2 (White Pawn)
Nerwen - Bc8xa6 (Killed), Night 2 (White Rook)

Q for Queen, B for Bishop.

[Mnemosyne]

Drat. I'm not good at this game...

Thanks for the clarification.

[satansaloser2005]

So the Werebear killed Nerwen and the wolf team killed Eomer? Right?

Thanks for clearing that up. I know nothing about chess.

EDIT: Oops. Read it right, typed it wrong. Werebear killed Eomer, wolf team killed Nerwen. Sorry, my mistake.

[Mirandir]

I just want to apologize for not voting last night. There really is no excuse, but I got distracted shortly before deadline and by the time I remembered (at 1:01), it was too late. For what it's worth my vote was going to be for Gwath for the purpose of not lynching Fea.

[Mirandir]

Originally Posted by Feanor of the Peredhil

Mnemo, we were told:



Q for Queen, B for Bishop.

Tooootally did not pick up on that and I like to think I know something about chess.

[Mnemosyne]

I just did a quick numbers crunch to see where we stand right now. So forgive me for pointing out the obvious.

We're at 7 ordos, 3 gifteds, and 5 baddies (one of whom counts towards the ordo tally).

We outnumber them 2:1 at the moment. Or, statistically, one of those of us who have posted thus far toDay is playing for Sauron.

With this whole 2 kills/night thing, this margin is Not Good.

On the other hand, that makes our chances of killing a baddie at Day better.

One third of the players at the moment are evil. Keep that in mind, folks.

[Mirandir]

Originally Posted by Mnemosyne

One third of the players at the moment are evil. Keep that in mind, folks.

Do you mean in general or who are posting right now? Forgive me if it's obvious but my mind is functioning at very limited capacity at the moment.

[Mnemosyne]

Well, at the time I was typing, only Fea, Sally and I had posted. So it was literally 1 out of 3.

But in general it's true, too.

[Mnemosyne]

I am making no sense tonight, not even to myself!

Of course I don't know if that first statement in the post above is true or not. Statistically it's rather invalid, as it was only a sample of three--it was just a useful way of thinking about it.

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

and to answer his question:

Originally Posted by the phantom

suppose someone questioned why she mentioned Nog as support for her vote- how could she have explained that away in a manner that did not point a death-arrow at NogBishop?

Did you have a plan for that Fea?

In the event that I was right about him being Seer, and anybody noticed my comment but him, I intended to lie through omission about thinking he was the Seer, and would have amplified my faith in his ordinary intelligence and the organized mode of his rather linear thinking, which is often at cross purposes with my typically incoherent mind.

Apart from that...

It's twenty of two, and I need sleep, and my Kelly will kill me if I don't stop typing like... now.

I shall ponder (and sleep) and I'll be with you when the sun shines through my window once more...

[Mirandir]

Originally Posted by Mnemosyne

I am making no sense tonight, not even to myself!

Of course I don't know if that first statement in the post above is true or not. Statistically it's rather invalid, as it was only a sample of three--it was just a useful way of thinking about it.

And here I was about to jump down your throat as to how you could possibly be so sure of that.

[Mnemosyne]

Originally Posted by Mira

And here I was about to jump down your throat as to how you could possibly be so sure of that.

...Yeah, realized that 10 seconds after I'd made that first post.