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In fact, Wilwa, Greenie - why, exactly, does my reluctance to vote Sally yesterday look bad? As I recall, the reason for voting Sally yesterday was basically a blanket "well, Inzil voted her, and we don't want to vote Inzil because he's our only other option", not that Sally was in and of herself suspicious. Plus, as I already pointed out, the wolves yesterday would have been perfectly fine with voting off Sally, since they're in the same almost-win situation today that they were yesterday.
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I also don't think there was any "confusion" created by me not hopping on the bandwagon and voting Sally immediately. In fact, I was the only person besides Sally herself that didn't vote for her, so yesterday's verdict was pretty well locked in fairly early. And I'll be honest - I'm not really certain where those lasts posts of yours came from, about me not knowing the situation? I was perfectly aware that we'd still be at lynch-or-lose even if Inzil was right - I'm not really sure how that was relevant.
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Honestly, this whole post sort of looks like Wilwa is in a rush to exonerate Rikae and condemn me... and her reasoning sort of falls flat in both cases.
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Shasta, there was confusion created by you not voting Sally, because she turned out to be a wolf. The majority of us agreed to follow Inzil's vote, whatever it was, because all voting the same was better than voting all over the place. Your reluctance to follow this plan, pretty much our only logical option, is suspect. The confusion comes because now it is hard to tell whether you are a wolf who didn't want to vote their fellow, or an innocent who simply didn't understand the importance of the village sticking together. Even if your vote ended up not influencing anything, it still creates a confusing situation. When I suggested the plan I even stated that anyone who didn't follow it would look bad later.
And I'm not exonerating Rikae, I just think her behavior looks more innocent, she stated yesterday what I just did, that you voting differently would cause an issue today if Sally was guilty, maybe it was a wolf preemptively drawing suspicion to you, but it looked more like an innocent who was becoming aware of the issue we'd have to deal with today.
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I'm here momentarily, but I'm afraid I can't be much help toDay - Mac's birthday stuff. I would have liked to analyze everyone's interactions with Sally, but I'm not likely to get the chance.
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I'm only going to be around for another hour or so, at that point I will have to vote. Still not sure for whom. Lots of pressure on whoever votes first, but I'm not going to be able to come back later. Going to look at Sally's posts quickly.
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So Sally expressed suspicion specifically at some point on both Rikae and I. I did not see her really ever mention much about Greenie, perhaps that was on purpose. But Nerwen and Shasta.....
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So, three examples of Sally mentioning both Shasta and Nerwen together and not throwing any suspicion their way, while she did suspect Rikae and I. Based on Sally's posts, and also with the fact that Shasta did not vote for her and Nerwen voted for her much later, I'm leaning towards these two as her pack-mates.
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So… just got in and, from a skim of the thread, I see there’s this meme building up that my vote, or the placement thereof, was very, very wicked.
Let me point out that my vote was actually the one that decided the lynch. As for why I delayed voting: I wanted to see what would happen. If we all voted at once we’d either have lost (had Sally been innocent) or got *a* wolf but had nothing further to go on, since all wolves would have been able to hide in the general Sallywaggon. As it is, I believe Shasta may have given himself away- will take a closer look at him shortly. Apart from that, it was also a pride-thing– I don’t like blindly following another’s vote and I wanted satisfy myself that there were, actually, legitimate grounds for suspecting Sally. Quote:
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OK, well I'm just going to go for it. I have to sleep so badly and will not be up in time for DL, and I don't want to not vote.
I suggest to the other two innocents in the group to try and maybe wait a bit before voting. If my vote is for an innocent than the wolves will jump right on and win, but if they are guilty the wolves are either going to immediately come on and vote differently or will wait until closer to DL to vote, hoping someone votes differently from me. Basically, if you two innocents notice that no one else is voting immediately after me take that as I sign that I got lucky and vote the same as me. If I'm wrong, we lost and I'm very sorry! ++Shasta Good luck guys. I hope we get another Day.
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Well, I hope they’re not both innocent...
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Great. So it’s Rikae and Greenie, then?
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I would hate for this to be the one game where I didn't do this:
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Fine. Won’t do any good now, but–
++Rikae
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![]() ![]() Well....now just to find out who the other one is....if it's Greenie I'm going to be especially impressed with this wolf pack... edit: and it is. Wow. And I almost voted Nerwen so I just was not meant to get this right *sigh*
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Well, at least now I feel vindicated for suspecting her earlier in the game. Also, I was just about to mention my concern about Sally's pairing of Zil + Rikae yesterDay… as you see, all too justified. Ah well. Nicely played, wolves!
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Wilwa, do you really think I would have a problem bussing a pack mate? My vote wasn't even in until votes were LOCKED yesterday, so accusing me of sowing confusion by "splitting the vote"... Sigh.
I told you something was telling me to vote Rikae.
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Looks like it's game over then!
The morning was very quiet. Inzil's gruesome death had shocked the villagers, but not as much as finding out their dear friend and neighbour sally had in fact been plotting against them all along. Finally wilwa spoke up: "It must be Shasta! Rikae would never had done it!" Rikae nodded, smirking. "I agree wholeheartedly," piped in Algae and flashed a toothy smile. "You are missing the point!" cried Shasta, "can't you see it doesn't make sense!? It's Rikae!" "You're so confusing, Shasta," said wilwa. "Can we take this a bit slower?" asked Nerwen. "No! It's got to be Shasta!" wilwa yelled and pointed a finger at him. "Yes, we quite agree," said Rikae and Algae, grinning wickedly, and started advancing on poor Shasta who was still trying to explain why it was Rikae, not him. "Uh-oh," said Nerwen. The village could but stand and watch in horror as Rikae and Algae built a fire and skewered Shasta. While he was roasting, they turned their attention to Nerwen and wilwa. "How about some cold appetizers?" asked Algae. "Liver pâté, perhaps?" said Rikae. "I'll fix us Bloody Marys," said Algae. The Living Rikae - Wolf A Little Green - Wolf The Dead Kitanna – ripped apart Night 1 - Moddess Legate of Amon Lanc - Brained on Day 1 - Ranger Aganzir - Scalped on Night 2 - Ordo Macalaure - Set on fire Day 2 - Ordo McCaber - Choked on bits of Agan Night 3 - Seer satansaloser2005 - Thrown under a carriage Day 3 - Wolf Inziladun - Beheaded Night 4 - Ordo Shastanis Althreduin - Skewered and roasted on Day 4 - Ordo wilwarin538 - Cooked into liver pate on Day 4 - Ordo Nerwen - Drunk as a cocktail on Day 4 - Ordo
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Aahhh!!
![]() Well, nicely managed by the wolves! I had a little suspicion of Rikae, but I was thinking pretty well of Greenie based on what Cab had said. Bad luck all around for the village, with RangerLegate buying it Day 1, then Cab. At least we prevented a clean sweep, and I was instrumental in taking down a Sallywolf. ![]() Thanks for the game, Kit! Sometimes the simple rules are a welcome change.
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And not even a consolation prize for us hapless innocents.
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My first dream was Shasta. I know he usually doesn't give me much to go on and I usually cannot get a read on him. That was why I mentioned being against voting a submarine towards the end of Day 1.
Night 2 I dreamt of sally. I spent that whole day waiting for her to slip on something so I could call her on it and make a point without being too obvious. Unfortunately it seems that the wolves picked up on that pretty quickly. I made a huge mistake in not calling out LG after a post of Nerwen's finally made me realize that I was being played. And I thought there was a bigger difference between "didn't see anything" and "have seen nothing". That one's on me. Night 3 I dreamt of LG but wasn't able to do anything about it due to being dead. But knowing that sally and Greenie were both wolves, IDing Rikae as the last was pretty elementary.
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Ugh, well that was a major fail on my part
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Well done, wolves! And nice try village. With both gifteds out of the way so early, you really took the challenge well.
But the Shasta lynch? He was so obviously innocent! How could you listen to those wolves whispering some technicalities nonsense? I guess well done wolves again.
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Well done, wolfies!
![]() Drinks all around! Well, I was going to congratulate you, McCaber on successfully giving the village at least Inzil to trust - and now you come along and say you didn't? I was sure that you had! Everything I said about that was 100% honest (well, except for my reason for avoiding Greenie...). It really looked like you dreamt of him! Also: we didn't know you dreamt of Sally. We killed you because of this: Quote:
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Why Aganzir?
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Ha! I guessed Cab had dreamed Shasta as an ordo, but obviously didn't want to parade that when the village was so happily considering me as a dreamed innocent!
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Thank you again, Agan, for calling time and putting together a narration that captured the spirit of this village.
And thank you to everyone who played. ![]() Legate - I will not vote for you on Day 1 next game we play together, not after witnessing that unfortunate lynch this time. Wolves - I honestly thought you would sweep through up until Zil voted Sally. Good job. McCaber - your seering was superb. I was impressed when you got two wolves back to back only to be done in that night.
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I am sorry for missing the first day. It didn't occur to me that the game would start so (relatively) quickly! I was so excited to play again, and then I just acted the Cassandra.
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Thanks for the (however short on my part) game, Kitanna! I really pity I didn't have more time to play here, especially I would have wanted to see how I fare as a Ranger (haven't really done much of that throughout my WW career). But hey, somebody has to die on Day 1, and the whole thing came in terrible rush. (It was just ridiculous because I was so certain I was not going to be lynched, because of the two people left to vote, one didn't have originally any specific case against me, and one specifically listed me among people she does not want to get lynched
![]() But, brave fight from the village in the last Days, and likewise from the Wolves. And such sad bad luck from the Seer. Two Wolves known in the village would really have made the difference. A pity at least if the hints about the dreams hadn't been clearer, too, because the village could have saved itself some trouble... since despite the attempts to be careful with hints, the WWs had anyway picked up the trail based on the general remarks. Well, obviously also a Seer without the Ranger around is much less safe than normally, since at the moment you're revealed, you are dead. It was good to follow the game for a while, anyway, and especially good to see lots of people returning. I hope this won't mean the end of it and that we can look forward to more. I certainly am.
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Thank you for the game, Kitanna, and congrats wolves! Well played!
I'm so so sorry about lynching you, Legate. You remember the song Inzil posted on day 1? I thought it was a seer hint ("if you could see what I see...") and didn't want to risk lynching him. So I did what I'm best at and acted chaotically - I wanted to look like the seer who had dreamed Inzil innocent (funnily enough I really trusted him and Legate from the start, just as I equally distrusted sally and Algae from the start) and was quite obvious about it (newbie pass, I thought, because in these 7.5 years of sporadic WW, I've never been the seer) and didn't even consider what Algae pointed out later about me missing night 1; and I also wanted to give the impression I was the Wildcard although I didn't think there was one. All this worked well enough because I was killed - not always my goal but quite entertaining to do at times. I really enjoyed playing and watching this so thanks everyone!
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So all the ordos pretend to be gifteds and the gifteds are the first to go. That's the spirit!
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Why Agan?
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