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The Squatter of Amon Rûdh · 11-14-2003, 10:51 AM

I feel like easing myself back into this contest gently.

Celestial harvester

Finwe · 11-14-2003, 06:26 PM

The Valacirca (sp?)?

The Squatter of Amon Rûdh · 11-17-2003, 12:17 PM

I was looking for 'Sickle of the Valar', but 'Valacirca' will do nicely.

Finwe · 11-17-2003, 08:38 PM

Ah, ok, then! Here goes:

Flaming thunder god, not being below something, and a short, swinging entrance make a large bird.

Turambar · 11-18-2003, 07:53 AM

Thorondor ?

[ November 18, 2003: Message edited by: Turambar ]

Finwe · 11-18-2003, 09:58 PM

Why yes indeed! Your turn!

Finwe · 11-23-2003, 12:01 PM

*bump* Someone? Anyone?

Turambar · 11-24-2003, 08:03 PM

At the peak, two rings surround me, near disposession point.

The Laurenendorian · 11-25-2003, 04:22 AM

Frodo?

Turambar · 11-25-2003, 06:34 AM

Not Frodo.

HINT: place.

Also, Saucepan's summary of "cryptic" clues on p. 1 of this thread is very useful.
[img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

[ November 25, 2003: Message edited by: Turambar ]

**The Saucepan Man** · 11-25-2003, 07:42 AM

Quote:

Saucepan's summary of "cryptic" clues on p. 1 of this thread is very useful.

Indeed, I found it very helpful. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

The answer is Oiolossë:

Two rings: Oo
Surrounding me: I
Dispossession: loss
Point: E (East)

And the whole is a peak, the high seat of Manwë and Varda, no less. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Turambar · 11-25-2003, 08:15 AM

Yep that's it.

**The Saucepan Man** · 11-25-2003, 07:02 PM

Mistakenly bearing south first and then right rapidly.

**The Saucepan Man** · 11-28-2003, 11:19 AM

Anyone?

**The Saucepan Man** · 12-03-2003, 05:53 PM

It's not that difficult, honestly ...

Turambar · 12-03-2003, 06:14 PM

A hint maybe? I can't even figure out what the straight part of the clue is.

[ 7:24 PM December 03, 2003: Message edited by: Turambar ]

**The Saucepan Man** · 12-03-2003, 06:21 PM

The straight part of the clue should always be either at the beginning or at the end.

Now, what might "mistakenly" denote ...

The Squatter of Amon Rûdh · 12-04-2003, 10:13 AM

Let's see: 'Mistakenly bearing south' could be 'out' reversed: Tuo, which with right makes Tuor.

I've not read Tuor's story recently, but I think he bore South to begin with before encountering Ulmo and going in search of Gondolin, so it could be him. Is it?

**The Saucepan Man** · 12-04-2003, 08:20 PM

Nope. I am afraid that's not the answer, Squatter.

The straight clue is "rapidly", although it's a bit deceptive. [img]smilies/evil.gif[/img]

Turambar · 12-08-2003, 10:29 AM

Errantry ? [img]smilies/eek.gif[/img]

Finwe · 12-08-2003, 07:13 PM

Frodo?

He was wandering south initially, then suddenly turned right towards Bree and eventually Rivendell when the Ringwraiths attacked.

**The Saucepan Man** · 12-08-2003, 10:10 PM

Nope. Neither of those is correct, I'm afraid.

Quote:

Now, what might "mistakenly" denote ...

Might it call for some rearrangement of the letters? [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img] [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img] [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

Finwe · 12-09-2003, 12:20 PM

Turin?

**The Saucepan Man** · 12-09-2003, 01:06 PM

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!! [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img] [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

Finwe · 12-09-2003, 05:22 PM

Morgoth?

**The Saucepan Man** · 12-09-2003, 06:01 PM

Now you're just guessing. [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

Look at the hints that I have given. And think laterally about "rapidly".

Nilpaurion Felagund · 12-09-2003, 07:56 PM

Limlight? [img]smilies/cool.gif[/img]

<font size=1 color=339966>[ 9:14 PM December 09, 2003: Message edited by: Nilpaurion Felagund ]

The Squatter of Amon Rûdh · 12-10-2003, 06:32 AM

Although I feel an utter fool for not spotting this before, I have to prove that I'm less dense than the rest of you.

It's Sarn Gebir: an anagram of 'bearing' and the first letter of South, followed by right; the whole being some rapids on the Anduin.

**The Saucepan Man** · 12-10-2003, 01:39 PM

A hit! A palpable hit!

There now, it wasn't that difficult after all, was it? Well done Squatter. Please proceed to perplex us further. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

The Squatter of Amon Rûdh · 12-10-2003, 02:20 PM

Very well, then. How's this?

The Waste Land causes depression of subterranean lord.

Nilpaurion Felagund · 12-10-2003, 09:18 PM

I'll take the silliest wild stab in the history of mankind, and say Anfauglith.

Anfauglith is The Wasteland.
There was fought the War of Wrath, which caused our subterranean lord(Morgoth, in this case) to "depress," which can be interpreted as going underground or losing.

Now, before you do the worst torture imaginable, I would like you to make sure my marigolds are watered... [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

<font size=1 color=339966>[ 10:21 PM December 10, 2003: Message edited by: Nilpaurion Felagund ]

The Squatter of Amon Rûdh · 12-11-2003, 08:12 AM

I'm afraid that's not the answer, although you're on the right track.

Finwe · 12-11-2003, 11:53 AM

The plains of Ard-galen?

As the battle was raging, Fingolfin rode to challenge Morgoth, and severely wounded him, effective depressing the Dark Lord.

The Squatter of Amon Rûdh · 12-11-2003, 01:08 PM

I'm afraid it isn't Ard-galen either. I like the reasoning, but it's a bit more complicated than mine.

Finwe · 12-11-2003, 05:22 PM

Doriath?

Thingol was probably depressed when Luthien was missing, and was traveling in the Anfauglith (if she even did, I'm guessing here).

Nilpaurion Felagund · 12-12-2003, 03:15 AM

Wow. My silliest wild stab wasn't silly at all.

Anyways, will it be...Withered Heath?

Withered Heath is The Waste Land.
From there came Smaug, which was/caused our subterranean lord(himself) to be depressed, or to reside inside Erebor.

OK, tell me the bad news... [img]smilies/cool.gif[/img]

The Squatter of Amon Rûdh · 12-12-2003, 06:51 AM

You have no idea how close you are, Nilpaurion; but that's still not the answer. I'm afraid that it isn't Doriath either, Finwë.

Nilpaurion Felagund · 12-16-2003, 02:49 AM

Am I close? Am I close? I'm so close I could practically smell the...wait, should close the loo.

OK, where was I? Oh, yeah. Another guess.

Will it be...The Desolation of Smaug?

<font size=1 color=339966>[ 4:05 AM December 16, 2003: Message edited by: Nilpaurion Felagund ]

The Squatter of Amon Rûdh · 12-16-2003, 09:17 AM

That's the one.

Nilpaurion Felagund · 12-19-2003, 12:36 AM

Thank you, Lord Etceteron! *bows*

And here is my conundrum:

The King's laughter after the morning is noteless.

<font size=1 color=339966>[ 1:42 AM December 19, 2003: Message edited by: Nilpaurion Felagund ]

11-14-2003, 10:51 AM	#201
The Squatter of Amon Rûdh Spectre of Decay Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Bar-en-Danwedh Posts: 2,178	I feel like easing myself back into this contest gently. Celestial harvester __________________ Man kenuva métim' andúne?

11-14-2003, 06:26 PM	#202
Finwe Deathless Sun Join Date: May 2003 Location: The Royal Suite in the Halls of Mandos Posts: 2,609	The Valacirca (sp?)? __________________ But Melkor also was there, and he came to the house of Fëanor, and there he slew Finwë King of the Noldor before his doors, and spilled the first blood in the Blessed Realm; for Finwë alone had not fled from the horror of the Dark.

11-17-2003, 12:17 PM	#203
The Squatter of Amon Rûdh Spectre of Decay Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Bar-en-Danwedh Posts: 2,178	I was looking for 'Sickle of the Valar', but 'Valacirca' will do nicely. __________________ Man kenuva métim' andúne?

11-17-2003, 08:38 PM	#204
Finwe Deathless Sun Join Date: May 2003 Location: The Royal Suite in the Halls of Mandos Posts: 2,609	Ah, ok, then! Here goes: Flaming thunder god, not being below something, and a short, swinging entrance make a large bird. __________________ But Melkor also was there, and he came to the house of Fëanor, and there he slew Finwë King of the Noldor before his doors, and spilled the first blood in the Blessed Realm; for Finwë alone had not fled from the horror of the Dark.

11-18-2003, 07:53 AM	#205
Turambar Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Non-Stop Home Posts: 859	Thorondor ? [ November 18, 2003: Message edited by: Turambar ] __________________ In the upper air the fireflies move more slowly.

11-18-2003, 09:58 PM	#206
Finwe Deathless Sun Join Date: May 2003 Location: The Royal Suite in the Halls of Mandos Posts: 2,609	Why yes indeed! Your turn! __________________ But Melkor also was there, and he came to the house of Fëanor, and there he slew Finwë King of the Noldor before his doors, and spilled the first blood in the Blessed Realm; for Finwë alone had not fled from the horror of the Dark.

11-23-2003, 12:01 PM	#207
Finwe Deathless Sun Join Date: May 2003 Location: The Royal Suite in the Halls of Mandos Posts: 2,609	bump Someone? Anyone? __________________ But Melkor also was there, and he came to the house of Fëanor, and there he slew Finwë King of the Noldor before his doors, and spilled the first blood in the Blessed Realm; for Finwë alone had not fled from the horror of the Dark.

11-24-2003, 08:03 PM	#208
Turambar Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Non-Stop Home Posts: 859	At the peak, two rings surround me, near disposession point. __________________ In the upper air the fireflies move more slowly.

11-25-2003, 04:22 AM	#209
The Laurenendorian Haunting Spirit Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Taruithorn Posts: 57	Frodo? __________________ And Beren desperate then aside / thrust Lúthien, and forth did stride, unarmed, defenceless to defend / Tinúviel until the end

11-25-2003, 06:34 AM	#210
Turambar Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Non-Stop Home Posts: 859	Not Frodo. HINT: place. Also, Saucepan's summary of "cryptic" clues on p. 1 of this thread is very useful. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] [ November 25, 2003: Message edited by: Turambar ] __________________ In the upper air the fireflies move more slowly.

11-25-2003, 08:15 AM	#212
Turambar Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Non-Stop Home Posts: 859	Yep that's it. __________________ In the upper air the fireflies move more slowly.

11-25-2003, 07:02 PM	#213
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	Mistakenly bearing south first and then right rapidly. __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

11-28-2003, 11:19 AM	#214
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	Anyone? __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

12-03-2003, 05:53 PM	#215
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	It's not that difficult, honestly ... __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

12-03-2003, 06:14 PM	#216
Turambar Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Non-Stop Home Posts: 859	A hint maybe? I can't even figure out what the straight part of the clue is. [ 7:24 PM December 03, 2003: Message edited by: Turambar ] __________________ In the upper air the fireflies move more slowly.

12-03-2003, 06:21 PM	#217
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	The straight part of the clue should always be either at the beginning or at the end. Now, what might "mistakenly" denote ... __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

12-04-2003, 10:13 AM	#218
The Squatter of Amon Rûdh Spectre of Decay Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Bar-en-Danwedh Posts: 2,178	Let's see: 'Mistakenly bearing south' could be 'out' reversed: Tuo, which with right makes Tuor. I've not read Tuor's story recently, but I think he bore South to begin with before encountering Ulmo and going in search of Gondolin, so it could be him. Is it? __________________ Man kenuva métim' andúne?

12-04-2003, 08:20 PM	#219
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	Nope. I am afraid that's not the answer, Squatter. The straight clue is "rapidly", although it's a bit deceptive. [img]smilies/evil.gif[/img] __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

12-08-2003, 10:29 AM	#220
Turambar Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Non-Stop Home Posts: 859	Errantry ? [img]smilies/eek.gif[/img] __________________ In the upper air the fireflies move more slowly.

12-08-2003, 07:13 PM	#221
Finwe Deathless Sun Join Date: May 2003 Location: The Royal Suite in the Halls of Mandos Posts: 2,609	Frodo? He was wandering south initially, then suddenly turned right towards Bree and eventually Rivendell when the Ringwraiths attacked. __________________ But Melkor also was there, and he came to the house of Fëanor, and there he slew Finwë King of the Noldor before his doors, and spilled the first blood in the Blessed Realm; for Finwë alone had not fled from the horror of the Dark.

12-09-2003, 12:20 PM	#223
Finwe Deathless Sun Join Date: May 2003 Location: The Royal Suite in the Halls of Mandos Posts: 2,609	Turin? __________________ But Melkor also was there, and he came to the house of Fëanor, and there he slew Finwë King of the Noldor before his doors, and spilled the first blood in the Blessed Realm; for Finwë alone had not fled from the horror of the Dark.

12-09-2003, 01:06 PM	#224
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!! [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img] [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

12-09-2003, 05:22 PM	#225
Finwe Deathless Sun Join Date: May 2003 Location: The Royal Suite in the Halls of Mandos Posts: 2,609	Morgoth? __________________ But Melkor also was there, and he came to the house of Fëanor, and there he slew Finwë King of the Noldor before his doors, and spilled the first blood in the Blessed Realm; for Finwë alone had not fled from the horror of the Dark.

12-09-2003, 06:01 PM	#226
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	Now you're just guessing. [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] Look at the hints that I have given. And think laterally about "rapidly". __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

12-09-2003, 07:56 PM	#227
Nilpaurion Felagund Scion of The Faithful Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The brink, where hope and despair are akin. [The Philippines] Posts: 5,312	Limlight? [img]smilies/cool.gif[/img] <font size=1 color=339966>[ 9:14 PM December 09, 2003: Message edited by: Nilpaurion Felagund ] __________________ フェンリス鴨 (Fenrisu Kamo) The plot, cut, defeated. I intend to copy this sig forever - so far so good...

12-10-2003, 06:32 AM	#228
The Squatter of Amon Rûdh Spectre of Decay Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Bar-en-Danwedh Posts: 2,178	Although I feel an utter fool for not spotting this before, I have to prove that I'm less dense than the rest of you. It's Sarn Gebir: an anagram of 'bearing' and the first letter of South, followed by right; the whole being some rapids on the Anduin. __________________ Man kenuva métim' andúne? Last edited by The Squatter of Amon Rûdh; 12-02-2005 at 05:15 AM. Reason: Fixed another old UBB smiley

12-10-2003, 01:39 PM	#229
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	A hit! A palpable hit! There now, it wasn't that difficult after all, was it? Well done Squatter. Please proceed to perplex us further. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

12-10-2003, 02:20 PM	#230
The Squatter of Amon Rûdh Spectre of Decay Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Bar-en-Danwedh Posts: 2,178	Very well, then. How's this? The Waste Land causes depression of subterranean lord. __________________ Man kenuva métim' andúne?

12-10-2003, 09:18 PM	#231
Nilpaurion Felagund Scion of The Faithful Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The brink, where hope and despair are akin. [The Philippines] Posts: 5,312	I'll take the silliest wild stab in the history of mankind, and say Anfauglith. Anfauglith is *The Wasteland. There was fought the War of Wrath, which caused our subterranean lord(Morgoth, in this case) to "depress," which can be interpreted as going underground or losing. Now, before you do the worst torture imaginable, I would like you to make sure my marigolds are watered... [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] <font size=1 color=339966>[ 10:21 PM December 10, 2003: Message edited by: Nilpaurion Felagund ] __________________ フェンリス鴨 (Fenrisu Kamo) The plot, cut, defeated. I intend to copy this sig forever - so far so good...*

12-11-2003, 08:12 AM	#232
The Squatter of Amon Rûdh Spectre of Decay Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Bar-en-Danwedh Posts: 2,178	I'm afraid that's not the answer, although you're on the right track. __________________ Man kenuva métim' andúne?

12-11-2003, 11:53 AM	#233
Finwe Deathless Sun Join Date: May 2003 Location: The Royal Suite in the Halls of Mandos Posts: 2,609	The plains of Ard-galen? As the battle was raging, Fingolfin rode to challenge Morgoth, and severely wounded him, effective depressing the Dark Lord. __________________ But Melkor also was there, and he came to the house of Fëanor, and there he slew Finwë King of the Noldor before his doors, and spilled the first blood in the Blessed Realm; for Finwë alone had not fled from the horror of the Dark.

12-11-2003, 01:08 PM	#234
The Squatter of Amon Rûdh Spectre of Decay Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Bar-en-Danwedh Posts: 2,178	I'm afraid it isn't Ard-galen either. I like the reasoning, but it's a bit more complicated than mine. __________________ Man kenuva métim' andúne? Last edited by The Squatter of Amon Rûdh; 12-02-2005 at 05:17 AM. Reason: Removed ancient edit notice

12-11-2003, 05:22 PM	#235
Finwe Deathless Sun Join Date: May 2003 Location: The Royal Suite in the Halls of Mandos Posts: 2,609	Doriath? Thingol was probably depressed when Luthien was missing, and was traveling in the Anfauglith (if she even did, I'm guessing here). __________________ But Melkor also was there, and he came to the house of Fëanor, and there he slew Finwë King of the Noldor before his doors, and spilled the first blood in the Blessed Realm; for Finwë alone had not fled from the horror of the Dark.

12-12-2003, 03:15 AM	#236
Nilpaurion Felagund Scion of The Faithful Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The brink, where hope and despair are akin. [The Philippines] Posts: 5,312	Wow. My silliest wild stab wasn't silly at all. Anyways, will it be...Withered Heath? Withered Heath is *The Waste Land. From there came Smaug, which was/caused* our subterranean lord(himself) to be depressed, or to reside inside Erebor. OK, tell me the bad news... [img]smilies/cool.gif[/img] __________________ フェンリス鴨 (Fenrisu Kamo) The plot, cut, defeated. I intend to copy this sig forever - so far so good...

12-12-2003, 06:51 AM	#237
The Squatter of Amon Rûdh Spectre of Decay Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Bar-en-Danwedh Posts: 2,178	You have no idea how close you are, Nilpaurion; but that's still not the answer. I'm afraid that it isn't Doriath either, Finwë. __________________ Man kenuva métim' andúne? Last edited by The Squatter of Amon Rûdh; 12-02-2005 at 05:18 AM. Reason: Removal of old UBB editing notice