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Evisse the Blue · 12-05-2003, 04:37 AM

And a wonderful metaphor it is too!
I don't have the book with me, but I recall it's Faramir in the Two Towers, talking about Gollum. Am I right?

Mariska Greenleaf · 12-05-2003, 04:57 AM

Yes yes, that's it!

Evisse the Blue · 12-08-2003, 09:37 AM

"Hate brings forth hate"
Name the circumastance it refers to.

Guinevere · 12-25-2003, 06:06 AM

This is a very good quote, but it is so general that I've no idea where it could come from. [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img]
I definitely need a hint... please! [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

Evisse the Blue · 12-26-2003, 04:00 AM

HINT: It's from the Silmarillion. (it's a tough one indeed, very easy to overlook)

Guinevere · 01-01-2004, 11:06 AM

Heureka! [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] at last I found it (at least I think this must be it, it's just in the narrative.)
It is in the Akallabêth, when Sauron has corrupted most of the Númenóreans, so that they worshipped Melkor. They arrested and sacrificed many of the "Faithful" on the pretext that they were plotting against the king.
"These charges were for the most part false ; yet those were bitter days, and hate brings forth hate."

Evisse the Blue · 01-01-2004, 03:33 PM

You got it! Congratulations, Guinevere! [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

Guinevere · 01-01-2004, 05:28 PM

Thank you, Evisse! [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Quote:

We cannot dwell in the time that is to come, lest we lose our now for a phantom of our own design.

Lord of Angmar · 01-01-2004, 10:10 PM

Gandalf to Pippin in Minas Tirith?

Guinevere · 01-02-2004, 05:07 AM

Sorry, wrong guess! (Hint: it's not in LotR)

Mariska Greenleaf · 01-02-2004, 06:03 AM

Thanks for the usefull hint!

It was Erendis to Aldarion, Unfinished Tales.

Guinevere · 01-02-2004, 07:54 AM

[img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] right you are, Mariska! Your turn again!

Mariska Greenleaf · 01-02-2004, 08:37 AM

Thanks a lot!

Quote:

To sheep other sheep no doubt appear different.

[img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

Guinevere · 01-02-2004, 08:58 AM

[img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] Lindir to Bilbo in "Many meetings"

Mariska Greenleaf · 01-02-2004, 08:59 AM

Of course!
How difficult it is to find a challenging quote for you Guinevere!! [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

Well, can't wait for a new one...

Guinevere · 01-02-2004, 09:27 AM

[img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] Here you are:

Quote:

There are some things that it is better to begin than to refuse, even though the end may be dark.

Lord of Angmar · 01-02-2004, 09:48 AM

Aragorn in The Two Towers.

Guinevere · 01-02-2004, 10:57 AM

Yes, well done, Lord of Angmar! [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] Your turn!

Lord of Angmar · 01-02-2004, 01:18 PM

Quote:

...not too soft in speech mind you, but he has a golden heart, as the saying is...

<font size=1 color=339966>[ 2:47 PM January 02, 2004: Message edited by: Lord of Angmar ]

Evisse the Blue · 01-02-2004, 02:46 PM

Quote:

...and he has the healing hands.

Ioreth to her cousin about Aragorn.

Lord of Angmar · 01-02-2004, 03:03 PM

Right you are, Evisse. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] Have at it.

Mariska Greenleaf · 01-13-2004, 10:30 AM

bumping up for Evisse!

Evisse the Blue · 01-16-2004, 08:40 AM

thanks, Mariska (we keep bumping up threads for each other [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]).
I hope this qualifies as a saying:

Quote:

But the dawn is brief and the day full often belies its promise

Guinevere · 01-16-2004, 12:23 PM

Ah, I remember that one ... I wondered if I should put it on my list of proverbs. It is somewhere in the Silmarillion.... [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img] *searching*

Ha! found it! [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] It's in the chapter "Of Men" in the narrative

Quote:

West, North and South the children of Men spread and wandered, and their joy was the joy of the morning before the dew is dry, when every leaf is green.But the dawn is brief and the day full often belies its promise;and now the time drew on to the great wars of the powers of the North, when Noldor and Sindar and Men strove against the hosts of Morgoth Bauglir, and went down in ruin.

Evisse the Blue · 01-19-2004, 02:46 AM

Correct, please proceed. (Btw, I love your new PT [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] )

Guinevere · 01-20-2004, 04:21 AM

Thank you, Evisse! [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Quote:

"In the morning counsels are best, and night changes many thoughts."

Mariska Greenleaf · 01-27-2004, 04:45 AM

Theoden sharing his wisdom with Hirgon.

Guinevere · 01-27-2004, 01:34 PM

Right!! [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] Well done, Mariska!

Mariska Greenleaf · 02-02-2004, 02:46 PM

The next one will be easy I'm afraid...

Quote:

Little people should not meddle in affairs that are too big for them.

Evisse the Blue · 02-03-2004, 09:00 AM

Grishnakh to Merry and Pippin?

Mariska Greenleaf · 02-03-2004, 10:25 AM

Right you are!

Evisse the Blue · 02-04-2004, 03:20 AM

Quote:

Hack, burn and ruin

(hope this qualifies as a saying, or at least as a cliche!)

Mariska Greenleaf · 02-04-2004, 03:51 AM

Cotton to Merry, in the Scouring of the Shire, about Sharkey.

Evisse the Blue · 02-04-2004, 04:03 AM

Correct, well done!

Mariska Greenleaf · 02-04-2004, 10:28 AM

Thanks!

Quote:

Let bearing pay for bearing!

Guinevere · 02-04-2004, 12:45 PM

Gwindor to Túrin at the sack of Nargothrond.

Mariska Greenleaf · 02-05-2004, 03:55 AM

Of course, Guinevere, well done! [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Guinevere · 02-05-2004, 06:48 AM

Thank you, Mariska. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Quote:

Grief is a hone to a hard mind.

Mariska Greenleaf · 02-05-2004, 08:05 AM

I'm very much into UT these days...

Sador thougth this while having a conversation with Turin, but didn't speak it out loud.

Guinevere · 02-05-2004, 08:56 AM

Yes, very good Mariska! I had thought that that was a difficult one... Well your preoccupation with UT explains your fast answer! [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] (Sador in particular proves to be quite a source of proverbs...)

12-05-2003, 04:37 AM	#201
Evisse the Blue Brightness of a Blade Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: wherever I may roam Posts: 2,685	And a wonderful metaphor it is too! I don't have the book with me, but I recall it's Faramir in the Two Towers, talking about Gollum. Am I right? __________________ And no one was ill, and everyone was pleased, except those who had to mow the grass.

12-05-2003, 04:57 AM	#202
Mariska Greenleaf Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Dublin Posts: 1,036	Yes yes, that's it! __________________ I hear and I forget. I see and I remember. I do and I understand.- Confucius.

12-08-2003, 09:37 AM	#203
Evisse the Blue Brightness of a Blade Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: wherever I may roam Posts: 2,685	"Hate brings forth hate" Name the circumastance it refers to. __________________ And no one was ill, and everyone was pleased, except those who had to mow the grass.

12-25-2003, 06:06 AM	#204
Guinevere Banshee of Camelot Join Date: May 2002 Location: Switzerland Posts: 5,830	This is a very good quote, but it is so general that I've no idea where it could come from. [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img] I definitely need a hint... please! [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] __________________ Yes! "wish-fulfilment dreams" we spin to cheat our timid hearts, and ugly Fact defeat!

12-26-2003, 04:00 AM	#205
Evisse the Blue Brightness of a Blade Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: wherever I may roam Posts: 2,685	HINT: It's from the Silmarillion. (it's a tough one indeed, very easy to overlook) __________________ And no one was ill, and everyone was pleased, except those who had to mow the grass.

01-01-2004, 11:06 AM	#206
Guinevere Banshee of Camelot Join Date: May 2002 Location: Switzerland Posts: 5,830	Heureka! [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] at last I found it (at least I think this must be it, it's just in the narrative.) It is in the Akallabêth, when Sauron has corrupted most of the Númenóreans, so that they worshipped Melkor. They arrested and sacrificed many of the "Faithful" on the pretext that they were plotting against the king. "These charges were for the most part false ; yet those were bitter days, and hate brings forth hate." __________________ Yes! "wish-fulfilment dreams" we spin to cheat our timid hearts, and ugly Fact defeat!

01-01-2004, 03:33 PM	#207
Evisse the Blue Brightness of a Blade Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: wherever I may roam Posts: 2,685	You got it! Congratulations, Guinevere! [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] __________________ And no one was ill, and everyone was pleased, except those who had to mow the grass.

01-01-2004, 10:10 PM	#209
Lord of Angmar Tyrannus Incorporalis Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: the North Posts: 833	Gandalf to Pippin in Minas Tirith? __________________ ...where the instrument of intelligence is added to brute power and evil will, mankind is powerless in its own defence.

01-02-2004, 05:07 AM	#210
Guinevere Banshee of Camelot Join Date: May 2002 Location: Switzerland Posts: 5,830	Sorry, wrong guess! (Hint: it's not in LotR) __________________ Yes! "wish-fulfilment dreams" we spin to cheat our timid hearts, and ugly Fact defeat!

01-02-2004, 06:03 AM	#211
Mariska Greenleaf Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Dublin Posts: 1,036	Thanks for the usefull hint! It was Erendis to Aldarion, Unfinished Tales. __________________ I hear and I forget. I see and I remember. I do and I understand.- Confucius.

01-02-2004, 07:54 AM	#212
Guinevere Banshee of Camelot Join Date: May 2002 Location: Switzerland Posts: 5,830	[img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] right you are, Mariska! Your turn again! __________________ Yes! "wish-fulfilment dreams" we spin to cheat our timid hearts, and ugly Fact defeat!

01-02-2004, 08:58 AM	#214
Guinevere Banshee of Camelot Join Date: May 2002 Location: Switzerland Posts: 5,830	[img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] Lindir to Bilbo in "Many meetings" __________________ Yes! "wish-fulfilment dreams" we spin to cheat our timid hearts, and ugly Fact defeat!

01-02-2004, 08:59 AM	#215
Mariska Greenleaf Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Dublin Posts: 1,036	Of course! How difficult it is to find a challenging quote for you Guinevere!! [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] Well, can't wait for a new one... __________________ I hear and I forget. I see and I remember. I do and I understand.- Confucius.

01-02-2004, 09:48 AM	#217
Lord of Angmar Tyrannus Incorporalis Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: the North Posts: 833	Aragorn in The Two Towers. __________________ ...where the instrument of intelligence is added to brute power and evil will, mankind is powerless in its own defence.

01-02-2004, 10:57 AM	#218
Guinevere Banshee of Camelot Join Date: May 2002 Location: Switzerland Posts: 5,830	Yes, well done, Lord of Angmar! [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] Your turn! __________________ Yes! "wish-fulfilment dreams" we spin to cheat our timid hearts, and ugly Fact defeat!

01-02-2004, 03:03 PM	#221
Lord of Angmar Tyrannus Incorporalis Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: the North Posts: 833	Right you are, Evisse. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] Have at it. __________________ ...where the instrument of intelligence is added to brute power and evil will, mankind is powerless in its own defence.

01-13-2004, 10:30 AM	#222
Mariska Greenleaf Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Dublin Posts: 1,036	bumping up for Evisse! __________________ I hear and I forget. I see and I remember. I do and I understand.- Confucius.

01-19-2004, 02:46 AM	#225
Evisse the Blue Brightness of a Blade Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: wherever I may roam Posts: 2,685	Correct, please proceed. (Btw, I love your new PT [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] ) __________________ And no one was ill, and everyone was pleased, except those who had to mow the grass.

01-27-2004, 04:45 AM	#227
Mariska Greenleaf Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Dublin Posts: 1,036	Theoden sharing his wisdom with Hirgon. __________________ I hear and I forget. I see and I remember. I do and I understand.- Confucius.

01-27-2004, 01:34 PM	#228
Guinevere Banshee of Camelot Join Date: May 2002 Location: Switzerland Posts: 5,830	Right!! [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] Well done, Mariska! __________________ Yes! "wish-fulfilment dreams" we spin to cheat our timid hearts, and ugly Fact defeat!

02-03-2004, 09:00 AM	#230
Evisse the Blue Brightness of a Blade Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: wherever I may roam Posts: 2,685	Grishnakh to Merry and Pippin? __________________ And no one was ill, and everyone was pleased, except those who had to mow the grass.

02-03-2004, 10:25 AM	#231
Mariska Greenleaf Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Dublin Posts: 1,036	Right you are! __________________ I hear and I forget. I see and I remember. I do and I understand.- Confucius.

02-04-2004, 03:51 AM	#233
Mariska Greenleaf Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Dublin Posts: 1,036	Cotton to Merry, in the Scouring of the Shire, about Sharkey. __________________ I hear and I forget. I see and I remember. I do and I understand.- Confucius.

02-04-2004, 04:03 AM	#234
Evisse the Blue Brightness of a Blade Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: wherever I may roam Posts: 2,685	Correct, well done! __________________ And no one was ill, and everyone was pleased, except those who had to mow the grass.

02-04-2004, 12:45 PM	#236
Guinevere Banshee of Camelot Join Date: May 2002 Location: Switzerland Posts: 5,830	Gwindor to Túrin at the sack of Nargothrond. __________________ Yes! "wish-fulfilment dreams" we spin to cheat our timid hearts, and ugly Fact defeat!

02-05-2004, 03:55 AM	#237
Mariska Greenleaf Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Dublin Posts: 1,036	Of course, Guinevere, well done! [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] __________________ I hear and I forget. I see and I remember. I do and I understand.- Confucius.

02-05-2004, 08:05 AM	#239
Mariska Greenleaf Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Dublin Posts: 1,036	I'm very much into UT these days... Sador thougth this while having a conversation with Turin, but didn't speak it out loud. __________________ I hear and I forget. I see and I remember. I do and I understand.- Confucius.

02-05-2004, 08:56 AM	#240
Guinevere Banshee of Camelot Join Date: May 2002 Location: Switzerland Posts: 5,830	Yes, very good Mariska! I had thought that that was a difficult one... Well your preoccupation with UT explains your fast answer! [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] (Sador in particular proves to be quite a source of proverbs...) __________________ Yes! "wish-fulfilment dreams" we spin to cheat our timid hearts, and ugly Fact defeat!