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Shade of Carn Dûm
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Ciudad de Lago del Sal
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As for times, I am flexible, because I'm sure my big mouth will finish me off early. Yet again, I guess Sauce and Mormegil are in this one. I could live to day three!
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I don't things REALLY matter to me one way or another.
Re: the Werebear: I'd prefer none, if only to enhance the chances of my survival, and to decrease the chances of being anything other than an innocent ordo. But it's the mod's call. Which means that if Menel doesn't want a Werebear, then too bad if I'm the only Ordo who agrees with him! ![]()
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Shade of Carn Dûm
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Ciudad de Lago del Sal
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Form's idea of an apprentice could easily counter the werebear, see last game...
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Shadowed Prince
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Thulcandra
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Just to let you all know, the 4:30 start time means I probably won't be able to get online until the end of the day. Talk about suspicious.
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Everlasting Whiteness
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Ditto to what TGWBS said, at least when it comes to voting. I'll only have about half an hour in afternoons.
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Ghost Prince of Cardolan
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: The bottom of the ocean, discussing philosophy with a giant squid
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Okay, I'm going to change the beginning/end time to 5:00 EST/10:00 GMT/3:00 Mountain time. I'm not planning on changing it any more, as it would probably be a little late for those in Europe. Indeed, it probably is already quite late for dancing spawn now. Sorry about that, as I'm trying to do what I can to make it convenient for as many people as possible.
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Same times as my game then...
Works for me. But really, there's always going to be SOMEONE put out by the times. Best to stick with what YOU find best, since you're the one for whom that time of day is going to become the most plugged up thanks to Werewolf.
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Energetic Essence
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Hmmm, 5pm Eastern Time? That should be fine for me except for Tuesdays and Thursdays starting next week. So, if I post an early vote on Monday and Wednesday, that would be why. As for me playing, by the looks of things, it's a go. So, definetly count me in Menel and I've already given my occupation on the previous page I believe.
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Mischievous Candle
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Scion of The Faithful
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: The brink, where hope and despair are akin. [The Philippines]
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1000Z? That's 1800L . . . yeah. Perfect . . .
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Twisted Taleswapper
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: somewhere between sanity and insanity
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May I ask what day the game is scheduled for? The 500pm est works way better for me!
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#2172 |
Shadowed Prince
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Thulcandra
Posts: 2,343
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Just to let you all know, I will be unable to post at all except in the afternoon-evening (Gametime). I might sneak in some Morning posts on the weekend.
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#2173 |
Everlasting Whiteness
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So long as these times are pm that looks great Menel. We still starting Thursday?
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Ghost Prince of Cardolan
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: The bottom of the ocean, discussing philosophy with a giant squid
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Yes, we are starting Thursday (even though my activity today was cancelled, I'm staying with Thursday anyway). Roles will be PMed sometime before the game begins then, maybe tonight. If not tonight, I'll PM them tomorrow afternoon, a few hours before the game begins.
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Maundering Mage
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Texas
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I imagine you will start with a night phase so the wolves can at least get some time to communicate and introduce themselves.
Also, I assume you will but want to make sure, will you put up the final start and stop times, rules etc... on the opening post of the new thread. A simple reminder to all playing in this game is to be invisible as well.
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Ghost Prince of Cardolan
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: The bottom of the ocean, discussing philosophy with a giant squid
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You may rest assured, morm, that I will do all those things. I still have a little homework to do, but I will probably be able to PM your roles to you within 2 hours of now. If not, you'll get theo a couple hours before the game starts tomorrow.
Note: Randomly determining roles with a 20-sided die is not time consuming. PMing them is.
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Ghost Prince of Cardolan
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: The bottom of the ocean, discussing philosophy with a giant squid
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Nilpaurion Felagund, please clear your PMs so I can send you your role.
Everyone, please turn invisible if you have not already done so.
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Ghost Prince of Cardolan
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: The bottom of the ocean, discussing philosophy with a giant squid
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All roles have been sent. Nilp, your role is in the latest reputation I've given you as your PMs were full.
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Scion of The Faithful
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: The brink, where hope and despair are akin. [The Philippines]
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Hehe, thanks for the rep, Menel.
![]() Hmmm . . . so it's 10:00pm GMT, 2200Z. 0600L. *shrug* Oh, well, just like the previous game.
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Psyche of Prince Immortal
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i wonder if i can make it too at least day 3 without being lynched or killed by werewolves... haven't so far
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Psyche of Prince Immortal
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just to state here, i was unable to get to a computer yesterday to vote so sorry for that, and hopefully i'll be able to vote tonight...
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Energetic Essence
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Just a note. I won't be around much until the weekend because of school. I'll try and come on as much as I can, but that's not going to happen as much as I would like.
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Ghost Prince of Cardolan
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I just got my computer back today. Didn't get everything reinstalled and a virus scan done till after the deadline. Sorry. I'll be on tomorrow and will be more talkative and also vote.
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Ghost Prince of Cardolan
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Lurking in the shadows.
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I'll make it official here:
I will return two hours before the deadline. Not before. This is quite unusual for me so I thought I'd inform you - I have a swordfighting workshop and the final rehearsals for a show tomorrow and will not be able to touch a computer all day. I'm very sorry. |
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Ghost Prince of Cardolan
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: The bottom of the ocean, discussing philosophy with a giant squid
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Kath has informed me that she will not be able to post on Day 5 due to a trip she is taking.
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Ghost Prince of Cardolan
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Lurking in the shadows.
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Everlasting Whiteness
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Also, due to the same trip I am only going to be able to post within the next hour or so, and so will have to vote extremely early. Apologies.
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Psyche of Prince Immortal
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woah, this is the first time i've survived to day 4...
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This should be known to prevent my being lynched this weekend.
I spend most weekends with my aunt. Yes, she has a computer, but that doesn't mean I'm willing to use it excessively, as she's got AOL. I'm also working during the weekend (as opposed to goofing off during the week) so my hours are especially strange. I will be on to vote when necessary, but it will be completely irregular and it's possible that I won't make other posts during the Day. I apologize for my absence, and I hope it will not jeopardize my chances of survival.
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Energetic Essence
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I'm letting everyone know that I will not be on until (probably) about 7 hours before voting time as I will be leaving in about ten minutes.
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Ghost Prince of Cardolan
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: The bottom of the ocean, discussing philosophy with a giant squid
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I was recently asked a question about who would win if the Hunter and one wolf were the only survivors at the end of a game.
Suffice it to say that this scenario would be one in which the number of wolves equals the number of villagers, meaning the wolves would win.
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Shadowed Prince
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Thulcandra
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Corpus Cacophonous
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: A green and pleasant land
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Let me explain. Going into the last Night, there are two ordinary villagers and one wolf. Naturally, the wolf kills one of the innocents overnight, leaving one villager and one wolf on the final day. Both vote for each other and there is a double lynching, leaving the village empty and the mod victorious. If double lynchings are not permitted, the lynch victim (and therefore the victor) is chosen randomly. But that doesn't happen because the rules specifically provide that, when the game ends with an equal number of innocents and wolves, the wolves are victorious. That rule applies, in my view, even if the sole remaining innocent is the Hunter.
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Shadowed Prince
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Thulcandra
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Gibbering Gibbet
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Beyond cloud nine
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Wouldn't the math take care of such a scenario? For example:
2 wolves vs 1 hunter 1 innocent. The two wolves kill the hunter first who takes a wolf with him, that leaves 1 wolf vs 1 innocent I may be wrong, but I think this very thing happened in an early game...
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Corpus Cacophonous
Join Date: Jan 2003
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Unless you are suggesting that the Mod is actually an active player in the game? I don't like the sound of that, as the Mod's imparitiality should be beyond question.
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Corpus Cacophonous
Join Date: Jan 2003
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![]() It could have been different - the Hunter and one Wolf could have cancelled each other out, leaving a Wolf v an innocent (albeit, in that case, the Cursed). The position is slightly different where you have one Wolf and the Hunter at the end, though, as there is no second Wolf to survive the Hunter's attack. Still, my preferred option in that situation would be a Wolf win. Another possible rationale for this is that the Hunter is only permitted a kill when lynched by the villagers or attacked by the Wolves at Night - not when attacked by day by the sole surviving Wolf. Not entirely logical, I suppose, but it fits in with the general principle that an equal number of Wolves and villagers equals a Wolf victory.
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Gibbering Gibbet
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Beyond cloud nine
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Hmmmm....just looked more closely at the scenario imagined by Saucy with 1 wolf, 1 hunter and 1 innocent....that one is interesting...
In that case, wouldn't it be in the wolf's best interest NOT to kill anyone that Night? If the wolf takes out the Hunter and dies, wolf loses. If the wolf takes out the Hunter and the hunter kills the innocent, wolf wins. If the wolf takes out the innocent, then next day double lynching and wolf loses. So, only 1 in 3 chance of winning the game. But if the wolf lays low that Night then the next day: Hunter gets lynched, wolf wins. Innocent gets lynched, wolf wins. wolf gets lynched, wolf loses. So there's a 2 in 3 chance of victory by NOT acting in the NIGHT. All of which leads me to ask two questions: 1) can wolves choose NOT to hunt in a given night? and 2) how much longer can I hold out before playing in another game?
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Gibbering Gibbet
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Beyond cloud nine
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