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Galadriel55 · 07-12-2015, 07:28 AM

Nori is correct. Elessar is not. You were closer with Tar.

Pervinca Took · 07-12-2015, 01:28 PM

Not sure if we need to account for 'label' apart from its just being the word/name for a king? But will guess at ARAN, the Quenya word for king.

Galadriel55 · 07-13-2015, 11:03 AM

Not Aran. The clue is cryptic; thus, there is a straight clue and a cryptic part. The king is the straight clue.

1. TURIN He wrecks destruction and drink, did you say?

2. NORI Dwarf confused foreign colour.

3. EDAIN One European mixed up men.

4. ELLADAN Girl and boy make a cross-breed.

5. King label

6. Tree (or is it?) endlessly shot.

7. BILL Animal, master, and statement.

8. LOTHO Behold! Feverish, confused man.

9. Leader mixes small direction.

Any thoughts for #6 or #9?

Pervinca Took · 07-13-2015, 11:19 AM

Ah ... could it be label as in brand? The brand of goods on the label?

King BRAND of Dale? (Son of Bain, son of Bard, if I've got them in the right order).

Pervinca Took · 07-13-2015, 02:21 PM

I'm not going to be around for a couple of weeks to post another password if I'm right (so please, if I'm right, someone else step in once the clues are all correctly guessed), but is the password UNDERHILL, going in a zigzag from top to bottom between the 2nd and 1st letters of the answers?

The thought that it might be gives me an idea for the tree clue, but I will not post this until I can justify the cryptic part of it.

Pervinca Took · 07-13-2015, 02:37 PM

Unless ... perhaps 'endlessly shot' is what happened to the huorns under Saruman's orders?

And it's sort of debatable whether or not a HUORN is actually a tree.

Galadriel55 · 07-13-2015, 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pervinca Took

Ah ... could it be label as in brand? The brand of goods on the label?

King BRAND of Dale? (Son of Bain, son of Bard, if I've got them in the right order).

Hurray!!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pervinca Took

I'm not going to be around for a couple of weeks to post another password if I'm right (so please, if I'm right, someone else step in once the clues are all correctly guessed), but is the password UNDERHILL, going in a zigzag from top to bottom between the 2nd and 1st letters of the answers?

Perfect.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pervinca Took

Unless ... perhaps 'endlessly shot' is what happened to the huorns under Saruman's orders?

And it's sort of debatable whether or not a HUORN is actually a tree.

Mwahahaha! The answer is not Huorn, but close. This is a cryptic clue, though, and a tad more devious than the rest, but it still has a straight clue and cryptic part. The straight clue might not be what you think, though.

1. TURIN He wrecks destruction and drink, did you say?

2. NORI Dwarf confused foreign colour.

3. EDAIN One European mixed up men.

4. ELLADAN Girl and boy make a cross-breed.

5. BRAND King label

6. H Tree (or is it?) endlessly shot.

7. BILL Animal, master, and statement.

8. LOTHO Behold! Feverish, confused man.

9. ... L Leader mixes small direction.

Pervinca Took · 07-13-2015, 03:04 PM

'Endlessly shot,' and looking for ways to make it work, has made me envisage Vollywood - the Valinor equivalent of Bollywood, and all the handsome elves as film stars ... oh dear.

A pleasant image, though.

Galadriel55 · 07-13-2015, 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pervinca Took

'Endlessly shot,' and looking for ways to make it work, has made me envisage Vollywood - the Valinor equivalent of Bollywood, and all the handsome elves as film stars ... oh dear.

A pleasant image, though.

Would you like another hint now, while we're both online?

Pervinca Took · 07-13-2015, 03:15 PM

I've been thinking 'family tree,' but ...

Go on then!

EDIT: Haleth, who founded a family tree? Because I think she was a hunter, and they would shoot (but 'shot' is passive voice).

Galadriel55 · 07-13-2015, 03:41 PM

There are two Tolkien elements in the clue. Huorn is indeed the tree (or is it), but that's not the straight clue (or the answer).

PS: sorry for the late response, I didn't see your post until now. I was writing a post for RP and I forgot to refresh...

Pervinca Took · 07-13-2015, 03:50 PM

An endless Huorn would be HUOR - was he a good shot? Handy with a bow and arrow?

EDIT: Well ... he was shot in the eye with a poisoned arrow, and so died.

Galadriel55 · 07-13-2015, 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pervinca Took

An endless Huorn would be HUOR - was he a good shot? Handy with a bow and arrow?

EDIT: Well ... he was shot in the eye with a poisoned arrow, and so died.

*applause*

1. TURIN He wrecks destruction and drink, did you say?

2. NORI Dwarf confused foreign colour.

3. EDAIN One European mixed up men.

4. ELLADAN Girl and boy make a cross-breed.

5. BRAND King label

6. HUOR Tree (or is it?) endlessly shot.

7. BILL Animal, master, and statement.

8. LOTHO Behold! Feverish, confused man.

9. ... L Leader mixes small direction.

Pervinca Took · 08-01-2015, 04:52 PM

Although 'low' is a bit of a stretch for 'small,' I'll have a guess at OLWE (with E for the direction).

Galadriel55 · 08-03-2015, 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pervinca Took

Although 'low' is a bit of a stretch for 'small,' I'll have a guess at OLWE (with E for the direction).

You don't even realize how close you are.

(but no cigar

)

Pervinca Took · 08-04-2015, 05:14 AM

Oh! ELWE - wee for little? (And L for the direction).

Galadriel55 · 08-04-2015, 10:32 AM

Perfect.

Over to you.

Pervinca Took · 08-06-2015, 08:08 AM

Yay! And a great zig-zag password (applauds again).

This took me a little while to put together, because I no longer have a piled-up stock of password clues, but I hope you enjoy it:

1. Bold grey takes direction for her.
2. Sauron’s speciality loses humanity for a flower.
3. Lament mingles with horse colour. Loses note but adds direction, for a sombre portal.
4. Leaf mingles with crude fertiliser, but the result is high and Noldorin.
5. Old English chill mingles with bitter liquid, but loses note at the peak.
6. Hesitate, know, mark him.
7. Here interweave many tales, if French direction meets the Aylesbury rockers.
8. Quaint tile around the mountain.

Galadriel55 · 08-06-2015, 08:03 PM

I'll hazard a guess - Celebdil for #5? Google etymology tells me chill once used to be cele or ciele. It's a peak. No clue how to make bitter liquid out of bd(i)l.

Mithalwen · 08-06-2015, 09:37 PM

I suspect bile is the bitter liquid and d or the extra e the lost note

Pervinca Took · 08-07-2015, 05:05 AM

1. Bold grey takes direction for her.
2. Sauron’s speciality loses humanity for a flower.
3. Lament mingles with horse colour. Loses note but adds direction, for a sombre portal.
4. Leaf mingles with crude fertiliser, but the result is high and Noldorin.
CELEBDIL: Old English chill mingles with bitter liquid, but loses note at the peak.
6. Hesitate, know, mark him.
7. Here interweave many tales, if French direction meets the Aylesbury rockers.
8. Quaint tile around the mountain.

Both close enough for a cigar. It's actually Old English CEALD for cold - I started the clue with 'Old English cold,' but thought chill flowed better in the 'sense' of the sentence, and 'chill' can be synonymous with 'cold.' So CEALD mixes with BILE and loses the A.

Galadriel55 · 08-07-2015, 07:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mithalwen

I suspect bile is the bitter liquid and d or the extra e the lost note

That's what I thought this morning, but couldn't post it until now. But it's weird that my answer is incorrect but still turns out right!

Pervinca Took · 08-07-2015, 09:25 AM

Not really - your answer was correct, and your reasoning nearly correct.

Mithalwen · 08-07-2015, 10:31 AM

It happens a lot to me at least with cryptic crosswords. You know it has to be a certain word - or when you get the solution - but you don't quite see why.

Galadriel55 · 08-09-2015, 10:27 AM

6. Erkenbrand? Er=hesitate, brand=mark, ken = ??? somehow must become know.

Mithalwen · 08-09-2015, 01:31 PM

ken does mean know though it is archaic save in some dialects. I guess it is linked to the German kennen. It isn't widely used save in expressions like "beyond my ken" or the old song "Do you ken John Peel?"

Pervinca Took · 08-09-2015, 06:42 PM

1. Bold grey takes direction for her.
2. Sauron’s speciality loses humanity for a flower.
3. Lament mingles with horse colour. Loses note but adds direction, for a sombre portal.
4. Leaf mingles with crude fertiliser, but the result is high and Noldorin.
CELEBDIL: Old English chill mingles with bitter liquid, but loses note at the peak.
ERKENBRAND: Hesitate, know, mark him.
7. Here interweave many tales, if French direction meets the Aylesbury rockers.
8. Quaint tile around the mountain.

'Ken' is still widely used in Scotland, and I remember it being used in a cryptic clue on a game show in the 80's.

I think you've started with two of the hardest clues, by the way.

Galadriel55 · 08-10-2015, 10:36 AM

3. Morannon = Roan+moan-a+n

Also, I found these clues easier because I knew where to start. I tend to get lost with clues that have synonyms and anagrams because there are so many possibilities. Like, for the past few days I've been trying to name Sauron's speciality, but things like "trickery" and "evil" don't really work well.

My trouble is with finding the right words, not with sticking them together.

PS: also, my first thought about this clue was Doors of the Dead.

Galadriel55 · 08-10-2015, 01:04 PM

Oh! Ringlore - re = Ringlo for 2!

Mithalwen · 08-10-2015, 01:54 PM

Ah I was reverse engineering from Ringil which was a struggle...

Pervinca Took · 08-14-2015, 12:55 PM

1. Bold grey takes direction for her.
RINGLO: Sauron’s speciality loses humanity for a flower.
MORANNON: Lament mingles with horse colour. Loses note but adds direction, for a sombre portal.
4. Leaf mingles with crude, backward form of fertiliser, but the result is high and Noldorin.
CELEBDIL: Old English chill mingles with bitter liquid, but loses note at the peak.
ERKENBRAND: Hesitate, know, mark him.
7. Here interweave many tales, if French direction meets the Aylesbury rockers.
8. Quaint tile around the mountain.

Indeed! Ringlore minus RE (the humanity subject, Religious Education).

Urwen · 08-23-2015, 11:40 AM

Methinks the answer for 4 is Finrod. Tried the combinations and he is the only one that makes sense.

Pervinca Took · 08-23-2015, 12:07 PM

You ARE right ... in a sense ....

But not quite right enough to justify the cryptic elements.

Can you tell me the thinking behind your answer?

Urwen · 08-23-2015, 12:50 PM

Simple. The synonym for leaf is Frond. If you add letter I which I think is the fertilizer and changed the order a bit, you get Finrod.

Pervinca Took · 08-23-2015, 01:29 PM

Ingenious ... but wrong.

'I' is a bit of a stretch for a fertiliser!

Try again. You are very close, but the word 'frond' is not involved.

Urwen · 08-23-2015, 01:42 PM

But there must be a frond somewhere in there and I don't know anyone else who has frond as part of their name.

Pervinca Took · 08-23-2015, 03:17 PM

Sometimes you don't need a synonym.

That's also true of the last of the clues ....

I've added a little to clue 4, to hopefully make it easier.

Urwen · 08-23-2015, 04:17 PM

In that case, the answer is either Faelivrin (nickname for Finduilas) or Feanor

Pervinca Took · 08-23-2015, 04:38 PM

Both wrong, I'm afraid. You were closer with Finrod.

Mithalwen · 08-23-2015, 06:30 PM

ahh 4 is Felagund anagram of leaf and dung. I thought of dung ages ago but couldn't make it work

07-12-2015, 07:28 AM	#2161
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,382	Nori is correct. Elessar is not. You were closer with Tar. __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

07-12-2015, 01:28 PM	#2162
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	Not sure if we need to account for 'label' apart from its just being the word/name for a king? But will guess at ARAN, the Quenya word for king. __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

07-13-2015, 11:03 AM	#2163
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,382	Not Aran. The clue is cryptic; thus, there is a straight clue and a cryptic part. The king is the straight clue. 1. TURIN He wrecks destruction and drink, did you say? 2. NORI Dwarf confused foreign colour. 3. EDAIN One European mixed up men. 4. ELLADAN Girl and boy make a cross-breed. 5. King label 6. Tree (or is it?) endlessly shot. 7. BILL Animal, master, and statement. 8. LOTHO Behold! Feverish, confused man. 9. Leader mixes small direction. Any thoughts for #6 or #9? __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera Last edited by Galadriel55; 07-13-2015 at 11:19 AM.

07-13-2015, 11:19 AM	#2164
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	Ah ... could it be label as in brand? The brand of goods on the label? King BRAND of Dale? (Son of Bain, son of Bard, if I've got them in the right order). __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

07-13-2015, 02:21 PM	#2165
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	I'm not going to be around for a couple of weeks to post another password if I'm right (so please, if I'm right, someone else step in once the clues are all correctly guessed), but is the password UNDERHILL, going in a zigzag from top to bottom between the 2nd and 1st letters of the answers? The thought that it might be gives me an idea for the tree clue, but I will not post this until I can justify the cryptic part of it. __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always." Last edited by Pervinca Took; 07-13-2015 at 02:25 PM.

07-13-2015, 02:37 PM	#2166
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	Unless ... perhaps 'endlessly shot' is what happened to the huorns under Saruman's orders? And it's sort of debatable whether or not a HUORN is actually a tree. __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

07-13-2015, 03:04 PM	#2168
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	'Endlessly shot,' and looking for ways to make it work, has made me envisage Vollywood - the Valinor equivalent of Bollywood, and all the handsome elves as film stars ... oh dear. A pleasant image, though. __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

07-13-2015, 03:15 PM	#2170
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	I've been thinking 'family tree,' but ... Go on then! EDIT: Haleth, who founded a family tree? Because I think she was a hunter, and they would shoot (but 'shot' is passive voice). __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always." Last edited by Pervinca Took; 07-13-2015 at 03:19 PM.

07-13-2015, 03:41 PM	#2171
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,382	There are two Tolkien elements in the clue. Huorn is indeed the tree (or is it), but that's not the straight clue (or the answer). PS: sorry for the late response, I didn't see your post until now. I was writing a post for RP and I forgot to refresh... __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

07-13-2015, 03:50 PM	#2172
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	An endless Huorn would be HUOR - was he a good shot? Handy with a bow and arrow? EDIT: Well ... he was shot in the eye with a poisoned arrow, and so died. __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always." Last edited by Pervinca Took; 07-13-2015 at 04:04 PM.

08-01-2015, 04:52 PM	#2174
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	9. ... L Leader mixes small direction. Although 'low' is a bit of a stretch for 'small,' I'll have a guess at OLWE (with E for the direction). __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

08-04-2015, 05:14 AM	#2176
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	Oh! ELWE - wee for little? (And L for the direction). __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

08-04-2015, 10:32 AM	#2177
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,382	Perfect. Over to you. __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

08-06-2015, 08:08 AM	#2178
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	Yay! And a great zig-zag password (applauds again). This took me a little while to put together, because I no longer have a piled-up stock of password clues, but I hope you enjoy it: 1. Bold grey takes direction for her. 2. Sauron’s speciality loses humanity for a flower. 3. Lament mingles with horse colour. Loses note but adds direction, for a sombre portal. 4. Leaf mingles with crude fertiliser, but the result is high and Noldorin. 5. Old English chill mingles with bitter liquid, but loses note at the peak. 6. Hesitate, know, mark him. 7. Here interweave many tales, if French direction meets the Aylesbury rockers. 8. Quaint tile around the mountain. __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

08-06-2015, 08:03 PM	#2179
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,382	I'll hazard a guess - Celebdil for #5? Google etymology tells me chill once used to be cele or ciele. It's a peak. No clue how to make bitter liquid out of bd(i)l. __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

08-06-2015, 09:37 PM	#2180
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,455	I suspect bile is the bitter liquid and d or the extra e the lost note __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

08-07-2015, 05:05 AM	#2181
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	1. Bold grey takes direction for her. 2. Sauron’s speciality loses humanity for a flower. 3. Lament mingles with horse colour. Loses note but adds direction, for a sombre portal. 4. Leaf mingles with crude fertiliser, but the result is high and Noldorin. CELEBDIL: Old English chill mingles with bitter liquid, but loses note at the peak. 6. Hesitate, know, mark him. 7. Here interweave many tales, if French direction meets the Aylesbury rockers. 8. Quaint tile around the mountain. Both close enough for a cigar. It's actually Old English CEALD for cold - I started the clue with 'Old English cold,' but thought chill flowed better in the 'sense' of the sentence, and 'chill' can be synonymous with 'cold.' So CEALD mixes with BILE and loses the A. __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

08-07-2015, 09:25 AM	#2183
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	Not really - your answer was correct, and your reasoning nearly correct. __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

08-07-2015, 10:31 AM	#2184
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,455	It happens a lot to me at least with cryptic crosswords. You know it has to be a certain word - or when you get the solution - but you don't quite see why. __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

08-09-2015, 10:27 AM	#2185
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,382	6. Erkenbrand? Er=hesitate, brand=mark, ken = ??? somehow must become know. __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

08-09-2015, 01:31 PM	#2186
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,455	ken does mean know though it is archaic save in some dialects. I guess it is linked to the German kennen. It isn't widely used save in expressions like "beyond my ken" or the old song "Do you ken John Peel?" __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

08-09-2015, 06:42 PM	#2187
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	Erkenbrand indeed 1. Bold grey takes direction for her. 2. Sauron’s speciality loses humanity for a flower. 3. Lament mingles with horse colour. Loses note but adds direction, for a sombre portal. 4. Leaf mingles with crude fertiliser, but the result is high and Noldorin. CELEBDIL: Old English chill mingles with bitter liquid, but loses note at the peak. ERKENBRAND: Hesitate, know, mark him. 7. Here interweave many tales, if French direction meets the Aylesbury rockers. 8. Quaint tile around the mountain. 'Ken' is still widely used in Scotland, and I remember it being used in a cryptic clue on a game show in the 80's. I think you've started with two of the hardest clues, by the way. __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

08-10-2015, 10:36 AM	#2188
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,382	3. Morannon = Roan+moan-a+n Also, I found these clues easier because I knew where to start. I tend to get lost with clues that have synonyms and anagrams because there are so many possibilities. Like, for the past few days I've been trying to name Sauron's speciality, but things like "trickery" and "evil" don't really work well. My trouble is with finding the right words, not with sticking them together. PS: also, my first thought about this clue was Doors of the Dead. __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera Last edited by Galadriel55; 08-10-2015 at 10:40 AM.

08-10-2015, 01:04 PM	#2189
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,382	Oh! Ringlore - re = Ringlo for 2! __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

08-10-2015, 01:54 PM	#2190
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,455	Ah I was reverse engineering from Ringil which was a struggle... __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

08-14-2015, 12:55 PM	#2191
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	Well done! 1. Bold grey takes direction for her. RINGLO: Sauron’s speciality loses humanity for a flower. MORANNON: Lament mingles with horse colour. Loses note but adds direction, for a sombre portal. 4. Leaf mingles with crude, backward form of fertiliser, but the result is high and Noldorin. CELEBDIL: Old English chill mingles with bitter liquid, but loses note at the peak. ERKENBRAND: Hesitate, know, mark him. 7. Here interweave many tales, if French direction meets the Aylesbury rockers. 8. Quaint tile around the mountain. Indeed! Ringlore minus RE (the humanity subject, Religious Education). __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always." Last edited by Pervinca Took; 08-23-2015 at 03:18 PM. Reason: Extend clue 4

08-23-2015, 11:40 AM	#2192
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,386	Methinks the answer for 4 is Finrod. Tried the combinations and he is the only one that makes sense. __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

08-23-2015, 12:07 PM	#2193
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	You ARE right ... in a sense .... But not quite right enough to justify the cryptic elements. Can you tell me the thinking behind your answer? __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

08-23-2015, 12:50 PM	#2194
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,386	Simple. The synonym for leaf is Frond. If you add letter I which I think is the fertilizer and changed the order a bit, you get Finrod. __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

08-23-2015, 01:29 PM	#2195
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	Ingenious ... but wrong. 'I' is a bit of a stretch for a fertiliser! Try again. You are very close, but the word 'frond' is not involved. __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always." Last edited by Pervinca Took; 08-23-2015 at 03:15 PM.

08-23-2015, 01:42 PM	#2196
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,386	But there must be a frond somewhere in there and I don't know anyone else who has frond as part of their name. __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

08-23-2015, 03:17 PM	#2197
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	Sometimes you don't need a synonym. That's also true of the last of the clues .... I've added a little to clue 4, to hopefully make it easier. __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always." Last edited by Pervinca Took; 08-23-2015 at 03:20 PM. Reason: Typoed synonym with anagram

08-23-2015, 04:17 PM	#2198
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,386	In that case, the answer is either Faelivrin (nickname for Finduilas) or Feanor __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

08-23-2015, 04:38 PM	#2199
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	Both wrong, I'm afraid. You were closer with Finrod. __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

08-23-2015, 06:30 PM	#2200
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,455	ahh 4 is Felagund anagram of leaf and dung. I thought of dung ages ago but couldn't make it work __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace