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The Squatter of Amon Rûdh · 03-02-2014, 04:14 PM

Gollum is right and for the right reasons. Some of the reasoning for #1 is heading in the right direction, but a lot of it isn't. Galadriel has the password, which is indeed mellon. Incidentally, mellon does appear on the Doors of Moria: ennyn Durin aran Moria. Pedo mellon a minno.

1. Loiterers in disarray using southern coinage
2. IORETH One alternative, possibly, from royal authority
3. GALDOR Confused, pleased with gold supplied by shipyard agent
4. PALLANDO Grim drapery and ring make one blue
5. ANGRENOST Bewilderingly, no strange place for a quiet smoke
6. GOLLUM Birthday boy is, note, possibly amused with hesitation

Galadriel55 · 03-02-2014, 06:05 PM

Ha! I was trying to squish Bilbo and Frodo into the birthday clue. Good one, Mith!

I'll take a stab at Nandor for the first but last clue, for a lack of better ideas.

The Squatter of Amon Rûdh · 03-03-2014, 03:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Galadriel55

I'll take a stab at Nandor for the first but last clue

That was a good stab. It was an anagram of ON RAND. You have the floor, I think.

1. NANDOR Loiterers in disarray using southern coinage
2. IORETH One alternative, possibly, from royal authority
3. GALDOR Confused, pleased with gold supplied by shipyard agent
4. PALLANDO Grim drapery and ring make one blue
5. ANGRENOST Bewilderingly, no strange place for a quiet smoke
6. GOLLUM Birthday boy is, note, possibly amused with hesitation

Galadriel55 · 03-03-2014, 09:05 PM

Hoom humm. Alright. This is an unconventional password and for a certain reason it does not follow the conventions of cryptic clues in that it does not have straight clues. But, so that it's not utterly blind guesswork, none of these is a place or a thing. I don't know how much or how little this gives you, and I'll gladly give more hints about the clues.

1. Confused elderly sprinted
2. Reverse angry article
3. First to die, yet follows monk's chopped off head
4. First of famous explorer who found not what he sought
5. Greet a man deprived of a right
6. Make amends before the start of hegemony
7. Mix the foreign regret

Happy riddling!

Mithalwen · 03-05-2014, 12:51 AM

7 Reuel? Rue and el or le . Bit desperate..

Galadriel55 · 03-05-2014, 06:14 AM

1. Confused elderly sprinted
2. Reverse angry article
3. First to die, yet follows monk's chopped off head
4. First of famous explorer who found not what he sought
5. Greet a man deprived of a right
6. Make amends before the start of hegemony
7. REUEL Mix the foreign regret

Mithalwen · 03-05-2014, 07:13 AM

OK..in that case I will hazard Ronald for 1(anagram of Run + old)

Galadriel55 · 03-05-2014, 09:44 PM

Right again.

1. RONALD Confused elderly sprinted
2. Reverse angry article
3. First to die, yet follows monk's chopped off head
4. First of famous explorer who found not what he sought
5. Greet a man deprived of a right
6. Make amends before the start of hegemony
7. REUEL Mix the foreign regret

Pervinca Took · 03-06-2014, 01:22 AM

Carrying on the same theme, EDITH for 6? (Edit + h).

Galadriel55 · 03-06-2014, 06:15 AM

1. RONALD Confused elderly sprinted
2. Reverse angry article
3. First to die, yet follows monk's chopped off head
4. First of famous explorer who found not what he sought
5. Greet a man deprived of a right
6. EDITH Make amends before the start of hegemony
7. REUEL Mix the foreign regret

Pervinca Took · 03-06-2014, 12:49 PM

Could 4 be Christopher? First name of Christopher Columbus, who thought he'd found America but had found the West Indies.

Mithalwen · 03-06-2014, 03:29 PM

In which case 2 could be Adam if you take mad the American way to be angry not crazy and A is an article.

Galadriel55 · 03-06-2014, 06:07 PM

Both correct. But Columbus didn't think he found America, or history would look a little - or big - bit different.

Any guesses at the password yet?

1. RONALD Confused elderly sprinted
2. ADAM Reverse angry article
3. First to die, yet follows monk's chopped off head
4. CHRISTOPHER First of famous explorer who found not what he sought
5. Greet a man deprived of a right
6. EDITH Make amends before the start of hegemony
7. REUEL Mix the foreign regret

Mithalwen · 03-07-2014, 12:17 AM

3 Mabel initial of Monk andwas Abel the first person. To die according to the Bible?

Pervinca Took · 03-07-2014, 05:23 AM

5. HILARY

Hi + Larry missing one of the R's.

(At first I thought it was Simon and was trying to do something with Sir ....)

Galadriel55 · 03-07-2014, 06:15 AM

1. RONALD Confused elderly sprinted
2. ADAM Reverse angry article
3. MABEL First to die, yet follows monk's chopped off head
4. CHRISTOPHER First of famous explorer who found not what he sought
5. HILARY Greet a man deprived of a right
6. EDITH Make amends before the start of hegemony
7. REUEL Mix the foreign regret

Now just the password.

Mithalwen · 03-07-2014, 07:45 AM

Oh I wondered about Hilary but got stuck cos was working on Hail and then wondered about Michael bit that obviously went wrong too..

Pervinca Took · 03-07-2014, 09:45 AM

I was trying to make Hilary out of Hail, too. I thought Michael might have been the Mabel answer, but, as you demonstrated, it wasn't.

Well, I've even looked at some of the lines of letters in rot13, and I still can't find the password! First line down is an anagram of charmer, recharm, marcher and remarch, but none of these seem to have a Tolkien connection.

Mithalwen · 03-07-2014, 11:44 AM

We have had ssome non standard passwords which had a link word...Saucy I think did one where itvwas Tol... so could it simply be Tolkien? Unless Ramcher is a discarded name gor an obscure character only featuring in a HoME footnote.

Mithalwen · 03-07-2014, 11:58 AM

Oh I thought of Michael to since of the M indicator and being first of Tolkien's children to die.

Pervinca Took · 03-07-2014, 12:38 PM

Great password anyway, Galadriel. It's always fun to have a change.

Galadriel55 · 03-07-2014, 03:59 PM

You have it, Mith. The password is Tolkien. That's also the straight clue to every single person on there. I haven't read any HOME books, though I've skimmed through a couple, and I wouldn't make the password that obscure.

Anyways, the stage is yours.

Mithalwen · 03-18-2014, 01:45 PM

1. DEAGOL Murdered, confused, gaoled.
2. Will the artist have his day? Sounds like it.
3. ANGELIMIR Prince is unendingly virtuous in face of Elvish gem.
4. Rearrange twilight right after singer.
5. Great elf confused in churchgoers furlong.
6. OLWË Relocated German lion king.
7. RIVER-DAUGHTER Flower child?
8. Heart of the Easterling?
9. Future king, from Dorwinion maybe.
10. GLORFINDEL Dwarf took fright initially about direction before guided back to elf.

Pervinca Took · 03-18-2014, 02:04 PM

6. Olwe? (Anagram of Lowe, German for lion).

Mithalwen · 03-18-2014, 02:08 PM

indeed.

Pervinca Took · 03-18-2014, 04:19 PM

1. Deagol. Anagram of gaoled, and he was murdered.

Password: Dorthonion?

Galadriel55 · 03-18-2014, 04:54 PM

7. Elanor?

Mithalwen · 03-18-2014, 07:51 PM

Deagol correct.
Dorthonion not.
One day, galadriel, I may write a clue when a flower is a flower. Today is not that day.

Pervinca Took · 03-19-2014, 01:10 PM

Goldberry, the River-Daughter?

Mithalwen · 03-19-2014, 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pervinca Took

Goldberry, the River-Daughter?

Yep but it is simply river daughter you need.

Pervinca Took · 03-19-2014, 03:05 PM

Was thinking Nimrodel at first (when I thought Dorthonion was the password).

Pervinca Took · 03-19-2014, 03:23 PM

10. Dwarf took fright initially about direction before guided back to elf.

I think this is GLORFINDEL.

GLOIN + F (initial of 'fright') + R mixed up (about), followed by LED (for guided) backwards.

Mithalwen · 03-19-2014, 04:24 PM

Yep. Groin would work too with L for left.

Pervinca Took · 03-20-2014, 12:31 PM

I started with Fror (is there even a dwarf called Fror?) or it might have been Gror, and tried Groin but plumped for Gloin in the end ....

Mithalwen · 03-21-2014, 09:42 AM

So no more guesses?

Pervinca Took · 03-21-2014, 02:57 PM

Well, I have two ideas for clue number three, but I can only justify half the clue with the answer in both cases. I can make the "elvish gem" part work, but not the "unendingly virtuous" part.

Unless - and this is a pretty long shot - "unendingly virtuous" could simply mean it doesn't need to have the ending letter of virtuous - the s - and Imrahil can be derived from Silmaril that way - but an L also has to turn into an H for that to happen.

Mithalwen · 03-21-2014, 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pervinca Took

Well, I have two ideas for clue number three, but I can only justify half the clue with the answer in both cases. I can make the "elvish gem" part work, but not the "unendingly virtuous" part.

Unless - and this is a pretty long shot - "unendingly virtuous" could simply mean it doesn't need to have the ending letter of virtuous - the s - and Imrahil can be derived from Silmaril that way - but an L also has to turn into an H for that to happen.

Wrong but ingenious and oddly not a million miles off. Unending does indeed mean you need to lose a last letter. But it isn't as complicated as you have made it. Have another look. Only. 2 and the password are really obscure imo but we are in Sil, UT, appendices territory rather than HoME or LOTR or Hobbit.

Pervinca Took · 03-21-2014, 04:12 PM

Well, if a prince called Moramir existed, I would guess that - Moral loses the last letter and adds mir for jewel.

My other guess was Faramir, but mir (the elvish for jewel) is the only part of my answer that I can justify.

Mithalwen · 03-21-2014, 09:12 PM

He doesn't but nevertheless the mir 3lement is correct. Wrong synonym.

Pervinca Took · 03-22-2014, 12:42 AM

The closest I can get is Aravir. Ara means royal/noble, and apparently mir is lenited to vir. However, the unending bit is not there.

03-02-2014, 04:14 PM	#2001
The Squatter of Amon Rûdh Spectre of Decay Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Bar-en-Danwedh Posts: 2,178	Gollum is right and for the right reasons. Some of the reasoning for #1 is heading in the right direction, but a lot of it isn't. Galadriel has the password, which is indeed mellon. Incidentally, mellon does appear on the Doors of Moria: ennyn Durin aran Moria. Pedo mellon a minno. 1. Loiterers in disarray using southern coinage 2. IORETH One alternative, possibly, from royal authority 3. GALDOR Confused, pleased with gold supplied by shipyard agent 4. PALLANDO Grim drapery and ring make one blue 5. ANGRENOST Bewilderingly, no strange place for a quiet smoke 6. GOLLUM Birthday boy is, note, possibly amused with hesitation __________________ Man kenuva métim' andúne? Last edited by The Squatter of Amon Rûdh; 03-02-2014 at 04:22 PM.

03-02-2014, 06:05 PM	#2002
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,382	Ha! I was trying to squish Bilbo and Frodo into the birthday clue. Good one, Mith! I'll take a stab at Nandor for the first but last clue, for a lack of better ideas. __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

03-03-2014, 09:05 PM	#2004
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,382	Feel like an experiment... Hoom humm. Alright. This is an unconventional password and for a certain reason it does not follow the conventions of cryptic clues in that it does not have straight clues. But, so that it's not utterly blind guesswork, none of these is a place or a thing. I don't know how much or how little this gives you, and I'll gladly give more hints about the clues. 1. Confused elderly sprinted 2. Reverse angry article 3. First to die, yet follows monk's chopped off head 4. First of famous explorer who found not what he sought 5. Greet a man deprived of a right 6. Make amends before the start of hegemony 7. Mix the foreign regret Happy riddling! __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

03-05-2014, 12:51 AM	#2005
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,455	7 Reuel? Rue and el or le . Bit desperate.. __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

03-05-2014, 06:14 AM	#2006
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,382	1. Confused elderly sprinted 2. Reverse angry article 3. First to die, yet follows monk's chopped off head 4. First of famous explorer who found not what he sought 5. Greet a man deprived of a right 6. Make amends before the start of hegemony 7. REUEL Mix the foreign regret __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

03-05-2014, 07:13 AM	#2007
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,455	OK..in that case I will hazard Ronald for 1(anagram of Run + old) __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

03-05-2014, 09:44 PM	#2008
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,382	Right again. 1. RONALD Confused elderly sprinted 2. Reverse angry article 3. First to die, yet follows monk's chopped off head 4. First of famous explorer who found not what he sought 5. Greet a man deprived of a right 6. Make amends before the start of hegemony 7. REUEL Mix the foreign regret __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

03-06-2014, 01:22 AM	#2009
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	Carrying on the same theme, EDITH for 6? (Edit + h). __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

03-06-2014, 06:15 AM	#2010
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,382	1. RONALD Confused elderly sprinted 2. Reverse angry article 3. First to die, yet follows monk's chopped off head 4. First of famous explorer who found not what he sought 5. Greet a man deprived of a right 6. EDITH Make amends before the start of hegemony 7. REUEL Mix the foreign regret __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

03-06-2014, 12:49 PM	#2011
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	Could 4 be Christopher? First name of Christopher Columbus, who thought he'd found America but had found the West Indies. __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

03-06-2014, 03:29 PM	#2012
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,455	In which case 2 could be Adam if you take mad the American way to be angry not crazy and A is an article. __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

03-06-2014, 06:07 PM	#2013
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,382	Both correct. But Columbus didn't think he found America, or history would look a little - or big - bit different. Any guesses at the password yet? 1. RONALD Confused elderly sprinted 2. ADAM Reverse angry article 3. First to die, yet follows monk's chopped off head 4. CHRISTOPHER First of famous explorer who found not what he sought 5. Greet a man deprived of a right 6. EDITH Make amends before the start of hegemony 7. REUEL Mix the foreign regret __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

03-07-2014, 12:17 AM	#2014
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,455	3 Mabel initial of Monk andwas Abel the first person. To die according to the Bible? __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

03-07-2014, 05:23 AM	#2015
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	5. HILARY Hi + Larry missing one of the R's. (At first I thought it was Simon and was trying to do something with Sir ....) __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always." Last edited by Pervinca Took; 03-07-2014 at 05:43 AM.

03-07-2014, 06:15 AM	#2016
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,382	1. RONALD Confused elderly sprinted 2. ADAM Reverse angry article 3. MABEL First to die, yet follows monk's chopped off head 4. CHRISTOPHER First of famous explorer who found not what he sought 5. HILARY Greet a man deprived of a right 6. EDITH Make amends before the start of hegemony 7. REUEL Mix the foreign regret Now just the password. __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

03-07-2014, 07:45 AM	#2017
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,455	Oh I wondered about Hilary but got stuck cos was working on Hail and then wondered about Michael bit that obviously went wrong too.. __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

03-07-2014, 09:45 AM	#2018
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	I was trying to make Hilary out of Hail, too. I thought Michael might have been the Mabel answer, but, as you demonstrated, it wasn't. Well, I've even looked at some of the lines of letters in rot13, and I still can't find the password! First line down is an anagram of charmer, recharm, marcher and remarch, but none of these seem to have a Tolkien connection. __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always." Last edited by Pervinca Took; 03-07-2014 at 09:48 AM.

03-07-2014, 11:44 AM	#2019
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,455	We have had ssome non standard passwords which had a link word...Saucy I think did one where itvwas Tol... so could it simply be Tolkien? Unless Ramcher is a discarded name gor an obscure character only featuring in a HoME footnote. __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

03-07-2014, 11:58 AM	#2020
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,455	Oh I thought of Michael to since of the M indicator and being first of Tolkien's children to die. __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

03-07-2014, 12:38 PM	#2021
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	Great password anyway, Galadriel. It's always fun to have a change. __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always." Last edited by Pervinca Took; 03-07-2014 at 12:41 PM.

03-07-2014, 03:59 PM	#2022
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,382	You have it, Mith. The password is Tolkien. That's also the straight clue to every single person on there. I haven't read any HOME books, though I've skimmed through a couple, and I wouldn't make the password that obscure. Anyways, the stage is yours. __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

03-18-2014, 01:45 PM	#2023
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,455	Ok.well late is better than never 1. DEAGOL Murdered, confused, gaoled. 2. Will the artist have his day? Sounds like it. 3. ANGELIMIR Prince is unendingly virtuous in face of Elvish gem. 4. Rearrange twilight right after singer. 5. Great elf confused in churchgoers furlong. 6. OLWË Relocated German lion king. 7. RIVER-DAUGHTER Flower child? 8. Heart of the Easterling? 9. Future king, from Dorwinion maybe. 10. GLORFINDEL Dwarf took fright initially about direction before guided back to elf. __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace Last edited by Mithalwen; 03-22-2014 at 01:40 PM.

03-18-2014, 02:04 PM	#2024
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	6. Olwe? (Anagram of Lowe, German for lion). __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

03-18-2014, 02:08 PM	#2025
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,455	indeed. __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

03-18-2014, 04:19 PM	#2026
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	1. Deagol. Anagram of gaoled, and he was murdered. Password: Dorthonion? __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

03-18-2014, 04:54 PM	#2027
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,382	7. Elanor? __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

03-18-2014, 07:51 PM	#2028
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,455	Deagol correct. Dorthonion not. One day, galadriel, I may write a clue when a flower is a flower. Today is not that day. __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

03-19-2014, 01:10 PM	#2029
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	Goldberry, the River-Daughter? __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

03-19-2014, 03:05 PM	#2031
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	Was thinking Nimrodel at first (when I thought Dorthonion was the password). __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

03-19-2014, 03:23 PM	#2032
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	10. Dwarf took fright initially about direction before guided back to elf. I think this is GLORFINDEL. GLOIN + F (initial of 'fright') + R mixed up (about), followed by LED (for guided) backwards. __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

03-19-2014, 04:24 PM	#2033
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,455	Yep. Groin would work too with L for left. __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace Last edited by Mithalwen; 03-19-2014 at 09:57 PM.

03-20-2014, 12:31 PM	#2034
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	I started with Fror (is there even a dwarf called Fror?) or it might have been Gror, and tried Groin but plumped for Gloin in the end .... __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always." Last edited by Pervinca Took; 03-20-2014 at 04:15 PM.

03-21-2014, 09:42 AM	#2035
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,455	So no more guesses? __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

03-21-2014, 02:57 PM	#2036
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	Well, I have two ideas for clue number three, but I can only justify half the clue with the answer in both cases. I can make the "elvish gem" part work, but not the "unendingly virtuous" part. Unless - and this is a pretty long shot - "unendingly virtuous" could simply mean it doesn't need to have the ending letter of virtuous - the s - and Imrahil can be derived from Silmaril that way - but an L also has to turn into an H for that to happen. __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

03-21-2014, 04:12 PM	#2038
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	Well, if a prince called Moramir existed, I would guess that - Moral loses the last letter and adds mir for jewel. My other guess was Faramir, but mir (the elvish for jewel) is the only part of my answer that I can justify. __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."