Tol-in-Gaurhoth CXV: On the Borders of Mirkwood - Dead Thread

[Loslote]

Originally Posted by Huinesoron

It certainly looks like it. Ugggh, it's too late for Seer Outta Nowhere.

hS

Seer outta nowhere with a wolf dream would help an awful lot, though. And the BH can trap their house if they come out now, which means we either keep the Seer another Night or we get a second wolf out of the deal. That's not bad for a Seer.

[Huinesoron]

Originally Posted by Loslote

Seer outta nowhere with a wolf dream would help an awful lot, though. And the BH can trap their house if they come out now, which means we either keep the Seer another Night or we get a second wolf out of the deal. That's not bad for a Seer.

Oh, it would be super useful, and possibly the best thing for the village. I'm just tired and absolutely can't search Rikae's posts to see if it's true.

hS

[Nogrod]

I really don't like this.

Originally Posted by Nilp

I'm willing to be trapless for a NIGHT. The narration will make it clear if he's the NW anyway, and the Ranger could act accordingly.

[Loslote]

What don't you like about it? I thought it made sense - if they lynch the NW toDay, the NW only knows the BH, so that's the Gifted they could block, and the (still hidden) Ranger can still protect the BH, so it wouldn't be a problem for the Gifteds. How did you read it?

[Nogrod]

I guess Nilp was quite a young man back in the days we played more, but I presume he's grown up in the last ten years or so. A 14-year old might think that it is of the utmost importance to all, that his own (least important) gifted-role stays alive in a situation where the village might fall in one or two Days.

Then again if he's a) the Cobbler, or b) the NW willing to change Threads to empower himself, then the quote would make perfect sense.

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Loslote

How did you read it?

He tries to draw the Ranger off from any real gifted so that the Wolves get a free kill - which they need if they want to bag this thing toMorrow.

[Nogrod]

I mean either that, or then he's just being oddly self-centered. Why waste Ranger's protection on him aka. why to come forwards in the first place as there was no real danger???

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

He tries to draw the Ranger off from any real gifted so that the Wolves get a free kill - which they need if they want to bag this thing toMorrow.

Actually: he tries to draw the Ranger off from any innocent person (not just gifteds) so that there will be a 100% kill the next Night while the Ranger stands unemplyed at Nilp's door.

[Loslote]

I still find Kath's insistence on focusing on Form instead of any of the more recent suspicious people HIGHLY suspicious.

[Loslote]

As for Nilp, I get the vibe that he's either trying to create chaos - bluffing and double bluffing the wolves to try to keep them from killing their top choices - or he's just overwhelmed and not thinking the role through all the way. I don't get a wolfy vibe, and I absolutely could be wrong about that, but for now I trust his reveal.

[Loslote]

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

I'll probably vote for Form, unsurprisingly. I still have concerns about Kath, Legate, and Mac, and Rikae's posts toDay have piqued my interest in them, but I'd rather stay on track rather than having surprises this late in the day.

Sally, no! Look at who's pushing Form!

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Loslote

As for Nilp,
...
I don't get a wolfy vibe

Me neither.

But a very cobblery one.

(Or NW'ish the most.)

[Nogrod]

Well it took three Days to start this time... the villagers speculating on how to dictate us who to vote - only muddying the waters.

The downside of a dead thread...

[Huinesoron]

Greenie has voted Legate. I'm currently fine to empower another Legate voter.

hS

[Nogrod]

Well, you know that I'm okay with empowering the next person who votes for Legate (aka. Greenie just did that and I'd be happy with it).

But if you are going to hang around to the DL anyway, let's not haste as something drastic might still happen.


EDIT: Naturally, X'd

[Huinesoron]

We've also got Rikae and Kath voting Form. I'm very much in two minds about all three of them right now.

hS

[Loslote]

I'd be more than happy to Mediumize someone who votes for Legate. Now we just need the village to get off the Form bandwagon, because I'm increasingly convinced he's an innocent the wolves have been pushing for a while now.

[Nogrod]

Form is one who's really hard to read. Could be a twice fellow-saved wolf or an ordo whose being framed because he's playing in an awkward manner. Could have even been the Cobbler - but at the moment my guess on the Cobbler is firmly Nilp.

[Blind Guardian]

So are we still voting Nilp?

[Nogrod]

I'd look for a third Legate-voter right now.

[Loslote]

What if we Mediumize Form?

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Blind Guardian

So are we still voting Nilp?

Hopefully not.

Let's see.

[Loslote]

It would definitely be a show of support, and he voted early, so it would have a bigger impact.

[Nogrod]

The game is getting intresting... Sally goes for Form.

[Blind Guardian]

Between Form and Legate, I'd rather see Legate die right now.

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Loslote

It would definitely be a show of support, and he voted early, so it would have a bigger impact.

If it comes close, the earlier vote might be a difference maker.

So I promise to go along if needs be.

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Blind Guardian

Between Form and Legate, I'd rather see Legate die right now.

I think we all do.

We'll just think, whom to empower.

And want to see, if anything wild happens.

[Blind Guardian]

Greenie - Legate
Form - Legate
Kath - Form
Rikae - Form
Shasta - Form

[Loslote]

I just feel like it's so painfully obvious Mac and Legate are wolves together.

If anyone needs to vote early, I think go ahead and vote Form and the other three of us can overrule if need be closer to the deadline.

[Loslote]

Shasta voted Form. Mac and Legate will as well, almost certainly. Unless they decide to try to vote Pitch instead to make themselves look better. We need the village to get itself together.

[Blind Guardian]

And now with time stamps:

2038: Kath - Form
2058: Greenie - Legate
2102: Rikae - Form
2110: Form - Legate
2110: Sally - Form
2117: Shasta - Form

++Form

Feel free to change I have to go

[Blind Guardian]

2038: Kath - Form
2058: Greenie - Legate
2102: Rikae - Form
2110: Form - Legate
2110: Sally - Form
2117: Shasta - Form
2122: Lommy - Form

Not looking good for Form

[Loslote]

That's 5 for Form, with two more almost guaranteed. I don't think we can swing this anymore. I'm going to vote to Mediumize Form anyway, just so we, the Dead Thread, can express our displeasure with the living's vote.

++Form

[Huinesoron]

Originally Posted by Loslote

Shasta voted Form. Mac and Legate will as well, almost certainly. Unless they decide to try to vote Pitch instead to make themselves look better. We need the village to get itself together.

I mean, they're pretty together - they just disagree with us.

It's at 5 on Form now, and Brinn says 'Form or Pitch'.

hS

[Nogrod]

Well, if it turns out a Form-wagon, we can at least make our feelings known by empowering a vote that goes not for Form (it would be somewhat funny if we empowered Form).

My own slight reluctance to empower Form is that he's still quite on the top of my list of possible wolves. But the main point of course is giving one extra vote to someone for lynching, not the vessel (person) through whom we give it.

[Nogrod]

Btw. Huinesoron!

If you're going to stand by up to the DL, so let's please not vote yet.

If something drastic happens we can "cancel" the DT-vote by voting something else.

[Loslote]

Form is going to be the lynchee either way, if we empower Greenie we draw attention to her, if we empower Form we are essentially saying "we think you made the wrong choice toDay", which I think is a message worth relaying. He's going to die anyway, so we wouldn't be potentially saving an evil, just sending the message that lynching Form toDay wasn't a choice we agree with, and we would have preferred to see them lynch Legate.

[Nogrod]

With "drastic" I mean things like reveals or something.

Otherwise I'm okay with empowering Form.

[Huinesoron]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

Well, if it turns out a Form-wagon, we can at least make our feelings known by empowering a vote that goes not for Form (it would be somewhat funny if we empowered Form).

My own slight reluctance to empower Form is that he's still quite on the top of my list of possible wolves. But the main point of course is giving one extra vote to someone for lynching, not the vessel (person) through whom we give it.

Exactly this, though less strongly, and with added 'a Day 3 village shouldn't vote a landslide!'. I strongly suspect we've just seen a lupine mass-vote, though I don't think most of its members look wolfish.

But in the interest of solidarity :

++Formendacil

(Don't worry, Nog - the Dead have retractable voting!)

hS

[Boromir88]

Form is chosen. He's reached the threshold of 3.