Tol-in-Gaurhoth CXIV – The Evil Breath of Morgoth in Dor-lómin, Quarantine Thread

[Rikae]

Well, it could have been worse. She could have killed the seer.

[Macalaure]

But really, for god's sake... there were several people who were very happy to keep voting for you!

[Huinesoron]

Originally Posted by Macalaure

saaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaalllllllllllllllllll lllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllyyyyyyyyyyy yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I shouldn't laugh.

I really shouldn't.

It's probably a good thing you can't see me right now.



hS

[Galadriel55]

At least sally didn't claim to be the Ranger...

Are people who are insisting on her revealing the Hunt doing so because they are afraid she is hunting one of them?

Originally Posted by Macalaure

I don't get what the quarantined are trying to accomplish with their vote. We know it's still in evil hand. It seems quite unlikely Brinn will be lynched toDay. If this is some attempt at reverse psychology, it's not working.

But you can only know it's not working when you know what it's trying to accomplish. And whatever Hui may or may not be trying to accomplish, my personal goal is precisely this.



Ok, caught up to GT. Welcome, newcomers!

[Galadriel55]

Originally Posted by Huinesoron

Y'know, we're now into a gap in the rules - if Sally really is the Hunter, does she or her victim have the tie-break? Neither of them are night-kills, which is the only thing the rules rule out...

hS

Pretty sure it's still Sally, as Mac wasn't actually lynched. But will wait for Nog to confirm.

Originally Posted by Rikae

Well, it could have been worse. She could have killed the seer.

Lol. I'm sorry for laughing sally. But I would certainly have enjoyed that outcome.

[Rikae]

Originally Posted by Galadriel55

And whatever Hui may or may not be trying to accomplish, my personal goal is precisely this.

Okay, now I can speak freely, anyway.

My goal was to dissuade people from voting for her, which it did. The fact that I got night killed made her look less wolfish to me.

However, the fact that Huey voted for her toDay opens up a whole new discussion. After all, getting the "evil QT vote" for the second day in a row was about the safest position Brinn could be in.

[Huinesoron]

Originally Posted by Rikae

However, the fact that Huey voted for her toDay opens up a whole new discussion. After all, getting the "evil QT vote" for the second day in a row was about the safest position Brinn could be in.

I need a version of the smiley with great big pointy wolf teeth...

hS

[Nogrod]

Just updating a list here as well. I'll try to update this daily form now on as the Thread seems to grow pretty fast.


Galadriel55 – Andróg, the Cobbler (voted into QT on Day1)

Rikae – Haldir, formerly healthy person (infected by the shady Infectors on Night2)

Huinesoron – Hareth, an Infector (voted into QT on Day2)

Kitanna – Huor, the Ranger (infected in the woods by the Infectors on Night3)

Sally – Túrin, the Hunter (voted into QT on Day3)

Macalaure – Grithnir, healthy person (dragged into the QT by the Hunter on Day3)


On another issue.

The first tie-breaker on Day4 will be Sally.

If Sally is not involved in a tie, then it will be hS whose vote decides.

In a case where neither is part of a tie, it is G55 who calls it.

If everyone votes a different person (omly other option if I counted it correctly in haste), then it is the latest incomer aka. next Night's victim whose vote counts.


This really is a special Village...

[Galadriel55]

Originally Posted by Rikae

However, the fact that Huey voted for her toDay opens up a whole new discussion. After all, getting the "evil QT vote" for the second day in a row was about the safest position Brinn could be in.

And how do you know your reaction is not exactly what Hui intended?

See what I mean about low stakes / high level psychology? How do you know what level of bluff this is happening at? And who is being bluffed more: the GT or the future QT?

[Macalaure]

Skimmed the thread. I see I greatly overestimated the amount of conspiracy, or even thought, that you baddies put into the QT vote.

We're a majority of innocents in here at this point, and as long as we can remotely get our act together, we're in charge of the vote.

I am very sure that Boro is the seer. He has dreamt of Lommy and Brinn and found them innocent. I'm not sure who the third person is, but that person is innocent as well.

[Rikae]

Originally Posted by Galadriel55

And how do you know your reaction is not exactly what Hui intended?

See what I mean about low stakes / high level psychology? How do you know what level of bluff this is happening at? And who is being bluffed more: the GT or the future QT?

If so, he'd be prioritizing the reactions of people with a fraction of a single vote over those with a full vote each.

Sorry, my cobbler friend, you're outnumbered now and logical discussions can resume. Obviously "Huey voted for Brinn" isn't a complete case against her, but it does justify a close look through her posting history which (finally!) I can talk openly about.

[Huinesoron]

Originally Posted by Rikae

Sorry, my cobbler friend, you're outnumbered now and logical discussions can resume.

Bah, it's just like I've always said: Team Evil has more fun.

(I have never said this.)

hS

[Rikae]

Originally Posted by Macalaure

I am very sure that Boro is the seer. He has dreamt of Lommy and Brinn and found them innocent. I'm not sure who the third person is, but that person is innocent as well.

I haven't been reading much of the last Day since my vote didn't count anyway - what did you base this on?

[Macalaure]

When I went to analyze Boro I saw several things that looked excessively weird, but after a while the lights went on. I had to re-write everything and hint at him that I figured it out while keeping him in that semi-suspicious range that usually keeps people safe-ish from kills and lynches. I hope I didn't hint to obviously. I can post the details later.

We have all night after all....

[Macalaure]

I do have to say, Sally: If you had been more straightforward about your pick, then:

A) People's reactions to it would have been more telling.

B) I could have summarized my thoughts with a noose around my neck. If I turn out innocent, as I did, that might've been helpful for the village the next Day.

[Rikae]

I am rather annoyed no one noticed my hunter hints.

[Huinesoron]

Originally Posted by Rikae

I am rather annoyed no one noticed my hunter hints.

You're not alone - I set up a potential Hunter claim in my very first post, by going on about Baby Turin.

I've spent the past Night and Day wondering if reappearing and claiming when the wagon on me got going would have helped. Thanks to this lynch, at least I can be comfortable I was going down anyway.

hS

[Galadriel55]

Originally Posted by Macalaure

I am very sure that Boro is the seer. He has dreamt of Lommy and Brinn and found them innocent. I'm not sure who the third person is, but that person is innocent as well.

Bwahahaha! If this doesn't make me pleased.

[Macalaure]

On why I thought Boro was the seer.

The way he stays uninvolved but is able to go at great lengths about his thoughts when poked over it. He's not just goofing around having fun, he's just playing his cards really close to his chest.

His case against Lhuna - he didn't analyze anyone closely like that, so why her? Well, his analysis firmly rests on the assumption of Lommy's innocence. If he knew Lommy was innocent, it would make sense to suspect someone who makes a case against her that he doesn't like.

Originally Posted by Boro

"I'm voting G55 to avoid Brinn getting lynched" = wolf having trouble trying to create fake suspicions. So his reasoning isn't based on faked suspicions, but on what he KNOWS. Brinn is innocent.

This doesn't make any sense to me logically, but the "Brinn is innocent" part really reads like a seer hint for people to figure out after he's dead.

Originally Posted by Boro

So far I've had this feeling that I'm on the most direct trajectory that leads to wolves, but my aim is slightly off-center. Like I'm hitting the target, but I'm not going to win any marksmanship competition.

This either reads as a wolfish "Geez, I'm so sorry I haven't been good at spotting wolves, yet, but I'm totally trying." or a seerish "I haven't been able to dream of any wolves yet, but I'm really trying."

He's also very panicky about a bandwaggon against him after Sally's reveal. Borowolf does not lose his cool that quickly, but Boroseer might.

It's not airtight, so feel free to make fun of it.

I think he dreamt of Lommy during Night1 or Night2 and Brinn during Night3. I don't have any idea who the third is. I wonder whether it might have been Rikae during Night2.

[Rikae]

I agree, Mac, that Brinn comment is especially odd.

[Galadriel55]

Oh, but you haven't spotted the best bit.

[Macalaure]

Do share then.

[Galadriel55]

Originally Posted by Macalaure

Do share then.

Cue: I know something you don't know!

Or, as people on the thread keep reminding each other, I don't know anything. So, I see something you don't see!

I am just really happy you picked up on those bits and not the others.

[Rikae]

Originally Posted by Galadriel55

I am just really happy you picked up on those bits and not the others.

Well, if it's relevant, Hui will know if it's true. Shame you can't talk to him privately.

[Huinesoron]

So we're voting Boro toMorrow, is that what I'm hearing? Sounds good to me!

hS

[Macalaure]

Kitanna? Sally? I'd love to hear from you!

We're 4 against 2 with the tie-breaker on our side, 5 against 2 once we get to vote again. So we're looking pretty good in here, unless we don't work together or have no-votes.

[Galadriel55]

Did anyone else get a temporary blackout a short while ago?

Originally Posted by Rikae

Well, if it's relevant, Hui will know if it's true. Shame you can't talk to him privately.

There's something I am 99% sure is true. But it's amusing to see you guys go on.

[satansaloser2005]

Sorry, I had entered a brief but intense period of mourning. The people who were helping me paint my house thought someone had actually died.

I'm so forking angry. I finally decided, at literally the last minute, to be end the question of Mac and Huey once and for all. Sadly, I was on the losing side. So sorry, Mac.


Not bolded because I'm on mobile and the site is being wonky.

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by Rikae

Oh man, Huey, watching you is bringing back memories of the frustration of being a wolf suspected for all the wrong reasons!

Anyway, I would like to exercise my right to vote. Maybe the delegates will be useful at the convention?

++Bernie

I just want you to know I tried to rep this post and it wouldn't let me. A+++++++++

Originally Posted by Macalaure

saaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaalllllllllllllllllll lllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllyyyyyyyyyyy yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

edit: this was all-caps... the forum un-allcapsed it for me! What??

I KNOOOOOOOOW. *regretful sobbing* Also, I had the caps issue too the other day. How odd.


Our DL is in about two hours, yes/no?

[Galadriel55]

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

I'm so forking angry. I finally decided, at literally the last minute, to be end the question of Mac and Huey once and for all. Sadly, I was on the losing side. So sorry, Mac.

You know, I kept wondering about people who demanded most loudly *coughLegatecough* that you reveal your prey early. Out of curiosity, what made you decide to keep your cards close? Or you just didn't want to make a decision until the last moments of the Day?

[Galadriel55]

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

Our DL is in about two hours, yes/no?

Correct. (Except in Daytime).

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by Galadriel55

You know, I kept wondering about people who demanded most loudly *coughLegatecough* that you reveal your prey early. Out of curiosity, what made you decide to keep your cards close? Or you just didn't want to make a decision until the last moments of the Day?

I actually said I was hunting Lottie, or rather hinted at it, in a post I'll find and quote later. I like making people guess, but not like that. I was trying not to be That Lazy Girl who had people over to help me and then did nothing, but I finally sat down right before DL and told them I needed to do A Thing or it would be Very Bad. Sadly, I was too late.

Legate was such a curious cookie. They should fry him, perhaps.

[Galadriel55]

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

I actually said I was hunting Lottie, or rather hinted at it, in a post I'll find and quote later. I like making people guess, but not like that. I was trying not to be That Lazy Girl who had people over to help me and then did nothing, but I finally sat down right before DL and told them I needed to do A Thing or it would be Very Bad. Sadly, I was too late.

I am pretty sure Lottie got the message. I am curious about what would have happened if Mac (and the rest) got the new message with time to spare.

*daydream: "No, I am the Innocent Child / Seer! Leave me for the wolves to kill!"*

Originally Posted by sally

Legate was such a curious cookie. They should fry him, perhaps.

Bake him. Because frying cookies would be weird.

[Kitanna]

Originally Posted by Macalaure

Kitanna? Sally? I'd love to hear from you!

We're 4 against 2 with the tie-breaker on our side, 5 against 2 once we get to vote again. So we're looking pretty good in here, unless we don't work together or have no-votes.

Out of spite I want to get Zil or Legate. But really, I did not not keep up with Day 3, except for the harrowing last minute stuff with our dear cupcake. I'm ready to be more active here on the QT once Day starts.

[Rikae]

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

Our DL is in about two hours, yes/no?

No, because it's night right now.

We can discuss now, but it could be wasted if the person we're analyzing gets night killed, so I'm going to wait for them.

We should probably not engage with G55 either. She doesn't know anything & is going to do whatever she can to provoke (if anyone wants to analyze Hui/their interactions, though, have at it - I'm going to be sifting through the living thread).

[Rikae]

Originally Posted by Kitanna

Out of spite I want to get Zil or Legate. But really, I did not not keep up with Day 3, except for the harrowing last minute stuff with our dear cupcake. I'm ready to be more active here on the QT once Day starts.

Zil had some really wolfy moments in the stuff I read. I did want to go back and look at him more closely.

We also need to look at the under-the-radar types. There's been too much noisy debate about a handful of people and it's giving me a creepy feeling.

[Galadriel55]

Originally Posted by Rikae

We should probably not engage with G55 either. She doesn't know anything & is going to do whatever she can to provoke

Who, me?

I have been kind to you. But speaking of provoking, here is a thought-provoking question I did not get a chance to throw out on the GT. So while we chat the Night boredom away, here goes. If The Phantom was playing, he would surely have figured out a way to exploit the Innocent Child role. Probably by making them reveal early. Why? I don't know, I'm not TP, but he always has a reason. It does give the village a known innocent at the cost of losing their dear Lalaith in the Night, but it may be very useful in untangling some of the knots that were tied on D2 and D3.

[Galadriel55]

Originally Posted by Rikae

We also need to look at the under-the-radar types. There's been too much noisy debate about a handful of people and it's giving me a creepy feeling.

Lynch Lalaith!

[satansaloser2005]

Hush now, child. The other desserts are talking.

[Macalaure]

Originally Posted by Galadriel55

Who, me?

I have been kind to you. But speaking of provoking, here is a thought-provoking question I did not get a chance to throw out on the GT. So while we chat the Night boredom away, here goes. If The Phantom was playing, he would surely have figured out a way to exploit the Innocent Child role. Probably by making them reveal early. Why? I don't know, I'm not TP, but he always has a reason. It does give the village a known innocent at the cost of losing their dear Lalaith in the Night, but it may be very useful in untangling some of the knots that were tied on D2 and D3.

The seer has plans. The wolves have plans. The phantom always has plans. You know, they're schemers. Schemers trying to control their little worlds.

I'm not a schemer, and look where that got me.


... wait... that's not quite how that quote goes.


Anyway.

A known innocent is a game-changer in the late game and roadkill in the early game.