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Morsul the Dark · 06-06-2004, 06:51 PM

Here's a cruddy one:

"perhaps you are right but even if they are weak you owe them gratitude for it is because of them the enemy fell at all"

Son of Númenor · 06-06-2004, 07:31 PM

Elrond: "Men are weak."
Gandalf: "Perhaps you are right but even if they are weak you owe them gratitude for it is because of them the enemy fell at all."

Morsul the Dark · 06-06-2004, 07:34 PM

of course i told you it was cruddy

Son of Númenor · 06-06-2004, 07:58 PM

"...and in blind wrath I would strike you, or worse."

Morsul the Dark · 06-06-2004, 08:01 PM

somehow that sounds like eomer to legalas.

"if it stood but a little higher from the ground"
"you would die before your stroke fell fell"
"and in a blind wrath I would strike you, or worse."
then aragorn jumps into to save the day

Son of Númenor · 06-06-2004, 08:31 PM

Sorry, that's not what I'm looking for.

Morsul the Dark · 06-06-2004, 08:35 PM

ok...

Gandalf to Frodo?

"No through me it would weild a power great and powerful to imagine and in a blind wrath i would strike you, or worse."

Son of Númenor · 06-06-2004, 08:38 PM

Hehe, that's pretty funny, but still not what I had in mind.

Morsul the Dark · 06-06-2004, 08:45 PM

ok one more guess then i'm done

Treebeard to Merry and Pippin (i don't have the exact quote but here it is as best as i know)

"turn around let me see your faces for i think that should not like you and in a blind wrath i would strike you or worse, but let's not be hasty turn around"

Son of Númenor · 06-06-2004, 08:53 PM

Morsul, I want to give it to you. Your answers are funny & could work, but still none of them are right.

Here's a hint: The icon that I use on this post has something to do with the answer.

Morsul the Dark · 06-06-2004, 09:00 PM

Oh wow the ring the book is only called The Lord of The Rings everything is connected to the ring.

however since you were kind enough to put a hint I will venture my fourth guess(persistant arent I?)

Smeagal to Deagal.

"give it to us my precious my love."
"why?"
"Because it's my birthday and I wants it and in a blind wrath I would strike you or worse"
"I already gave you a present."

they fight please let it be right

Evisse the Blue · 06-07-2004, 02:19 AM

but I have another guess: Boromir becoming infuriated with Frodo:
"For I am too strong for you, halfling, and in blind wrath I would strike you or worse." Though that's probably not it either, because it's a conditional where a future tense 'would' make more sense.

Hey, that's a great quote and great guesses too.

Morsul the Dark · 06-07-2004, 12:35 PM

Sam to Gollum?

Frodo- You won't run away Sam, will you? Gollum.
Gollum-Know master we leads it to the black gate.
Frodo the ring will hold you to your word.
Sam- and I would strike you or worse.
Frodo- why do you do that?
Sam do what?
F- call him names run him down
ect...

Son of Númenor · 06-07-2004, 12:55 PM

Sorry, Evisse & Morsul, those aren't what I'm looking for. Perhaps a less vague hint is in order.

The line would have been spoken by a Ringbearer to a companion.

Morsul the Dark · 06-07-2004, 01:05 PM

ok Frodo to Sam

Sam- I could carry iot for you.
Frodo-No it is my burden and in a blind wrath i would strike you or worse no it is my burden mine alone

Son of Númenor · 06-07-2004, 01:09 PM

You're on the right track. Here's a semi-hint: the 'blind wrath' is directly related to the last word in the real sentence.

Morsul the Dark · 06-07-2004, 01:27 PM

hmmm....

so it's frodo to sam just dont know where
so here's a guess that might be acceptable

Bilbo to Gandalf

"If I am angry it's your fault! and in a blind wrath I would strike you or worse you want it for yourself."

"Bilbo Baggins!"

Son of Númenor · 06-08-2004, 06:14 AM

You were on the right track when you said, "so it's frodo to sam just dont know where." Think tower.

Morsul the Dark · 06-10-2004, 12:41 PM

in cirith ungol? when sam frees frodo. When Frodo demands the ring from sam?

Son of Númenor · 06-10-2004, 01:12 PM

I am, of course, looking for a specific line.

Morsul the Dark · 06-10-2004, 02:41 PM

makes sad puppy-dog eye
but good lord i know not which line it is that you speak of.

Evisse the Blue · 06-11-2004, 02:34 AM

Quote:

but good lord i know not which line it is that you speak of.

lol. Maybe it's this one?:

"No, no!" cried Frodo, snatching the Ring and chain from Sam's hands. 'No, you won't you thief! And in a blind wrath I would strike you or worse"

HerenIstarion · 06-11-2004, 03:01 AM

What goes around comes around, and I've watched it way to long without interfering

, so it seems fair enough to try my teeth on the pie:

Quote:

O Sam!’ cried Frodo. What have I said? What have I done? Forgive me! After all you have done...and in blind wrath I would strike you, or worse It is the horrible power of the Ring. I wish it had never, never, been found. But don’t mind me, Sam. I must carry the burden to the end. It can’t be altered. You can’t come between me and this doom.’

But as it was Morsul to give me hint with his Cirith Ungol guess, I'd gladly pass the right to proceed over to him (that is, in case my answer is correct)

Son of Númenor · 06-11-2004, 11:42 AM

I yield the floor to whoever wants it.

HerenIstarion · 06-12-2004, 02:15 AM

I suppose it is Morsul's turn, than.

Just out of curiosity: were it me or Evisse with the correct guess?

Morsul the Dark · 06-14-2004, 10:30 AM

NOTE: I use all movie quotes for this becauser I can't quote the book as well as you all just keep that in mind for this one:

"Oh that I would that it were Gandalf and not this BEAST that lived here for he is perhaps the only one I trully say is with me."

HerenIstarion · 06-26-2004, 02:28 PM

I believe we'll do with the hint

Morsul the Dark · 07-02-2004, 02:14 PM

hint: let's see the beast isn't exactly a beast this charactor is describing the person he is talking about and he has just learned devastating news.

Evisse the Blue · 07-03-2004, 05:17 AM

Theoden about Wormtongue?

HerenIstarion · 07-09-2004, 05:24 AM

Dear Morsul

seeing how we all are stumped, would you care to reveal the answer, and, as a victor, pose as a new question (but books this time, ple-ease, not movies, as the thread is, in general, book-oriented)

cheers

Evisse the Blue · 07-14-2004, 04:51 AM

"...or in springtime we may indeed behold it."

Should be easy...

Morsul the Dark · 07-20-2004, 11:50 PM

sorry i couldnt respond i was getting my computer fixed and second

this is my quote "a wizard should know better! Saruman, oh that i would..."

ah anpother quote... i think i know the time the place but not the quote so again Sam to Frodo on Mount Doom talking about the shire and the flowers blossoming and strawberries

please be detailed enough fore a correct answer

Evisse the Blue · 07-21-2004, 06:17 AM

No, it's not that, the non quote was spoken earlier than that. And 'springtime' is mentioned in that dialogue but not by the speaker of the non-quote.

Evisse the Blue · 07-31-2004, 09:07 AM

Any more tries? Anyone? it's easy really. Check FOTR.

radagastly · 08-03-2004, 09:18 AM

I will venture a guess. In the chapter titled "Lothlorien" Legolas describes the woods of Lothlorien . . .

Quote:

'There lie the woods of Lothlorien!' said Legolas. 'That is the fairest of all the dwellings of my people. There are no trees like the trees of that land. For in the autumn their leaves fall not, but turn to gold. Not till the spring comes and the new green opens do they fall, and then the boughs are laden with yellow flowers; and the floor of the wood is golden, and golden is the roof, and its pillars are of silver, for the bark of the trees is smooth and grey. So still our songs in Mirkwood say. My heart would be glad if I were beneath the eaves of that wood, and it were springtime!'

'My heart will be glad, even in the winter,' said Aragorn. 'But it lies many miles away. Let us hasten!' . . .

". . .or in springtime we may indeed behold it."

Is that it?

Evisse the Blue · 08-03-2004, 10:33 AM

Yes, that's it. Congratulations, you got it! Give us the next one.

radagastly · 08-04-2004, 07:56 AM

This might be a bit tricky (hopefully):

Tried to see them all private he did. I gave him what for. I wouldn't even take a message.

Evisse the Blue · 08-08-2004, 02:21 AM

Maybe the Gaffer, according to Sam:

Quote:

There's been a strange customer asking for Mr. Baggins of Bag End, and he's only just gone. Tried to see them all private he did. I gave him what for. I wouldn't even take a message.

radagastly · 08-08-2004, 08:03 AM

No, its not the Gaffer, and it's not according to Sam. It's later in the story, outside the Shire.

radagastly · 08-10-2004, 08:12 AM

It's been a week, so how about a hint?

The non-quote occurs five chapters later in the book than it would in the story, if the conversation had actually occured in the book. It is related to us by someone else many miles from where it would have happened.

I'll give another hint in a few days if no one gets it sooner.

06-06-2004, 06:51 PM	#161
Morsul the Dark Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 3,448	Here's a cruddy one: "perhaps you are right but even if they are weak you owe them gratitude for it is because of them the enemy fell at all" __________________ Morsul the Resurrected

06-06-2004, 07:31 PM	#162
Son of Númenor A Shade of Westernesse Join Date: May 2004 Location: The last wave over Atalantë Posts: 515	Elrond: "Men are weak." Gandalf: "Perhaps you are right but even if they are weak you owe them gratitude for it is because of them the enemy fell at all." __________________ "This miserable drizzling afternoon I have been reading up old military lecture-notes again:- and getting bored with them after an hour and a half. I have done some touches to my nonsense fairy language - to its improvement."

06-06-2004, 07:34 PM	#163
Morsul the Dark Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 3,448	of course i told you it was cruddy __________________ Morsul the Resurrected

06-06-2004, 07:58 PM	#164
Son of Númenor A Shade of Westernesse Join Date: May 2004 Location: The last wave over Atalantë Posts: 515	"...and in blind wrath I would strike you, or worse." __________________ "This miserable drizzling afternoon I have been reading up old military lecture-notes again:- and getting bored with them after an hour and a half. I have done some touches to my nonsense fairy language - to its improvement."

06-06-2004, 08:01 PM	#165
Morsul the Dark Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 3,448	somehow that sounds like eomer to legalas. "if it stood but a little higher from the ground" "you would die before your stroke fell fell" "and in a blind wrath I would strike you, or worse." then aragorn jumps into to save the day __________________ Morsul the Resurrected

06-06-2004, 08:31 PM	#166
Son of Númenor A Shade of Westernesse Join Date: May 2004 Location: The last wave over Atalantë Posts: 515	Sorry, that's not what I'm looking for. __________________ "This miserable drizzling afternoon I have been reading up old military lecture-notes again:- and getting bored with them after an hour and a half. I have done some touches to my nonsense fairy language - to its improvement."

06-06-2004, 08:35 PM	#167
Morsul the Dark Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 3,448	ok... Gandalf to Frodo? "No through me it would weild a power great and powerful to imagine and in a blind wrath i would strike you, or worse." __________________ Morsul the Resurrected

06-06-2004, 08:38 PM	#168
Son of Númenor A Shade of Westernesse Join Date: May 2004 Location: The last wave over Atalantë Posts: 515	Hehe, that's pretty funny, but still not what I had in mind. __________________ "This miserable drizzling afternoon I have been reading up old military lecture-notes again:- and getting bored with them after an hour and a half. I have done some touches to my nonsense fairy language - to its improvement."

06-06-2004, 08:45 PM	#169
Morsul the Dark Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 3,448	ok one more guess then i'm done Treebeard to Merry and Pippin (i don't have the exact quote but here it is as best as i know) "turn around let me see your faces for i think that should not like you and in a blind wrath i would strike you or worse, but let's not be hasty turn around" __________________ Morsul the Resurrected

06-06-2004, 08:53 PM	#170
Son of Númenor A Shade of Westernesse Join Date: May 2004 Location: The last wave over Atalantë Posts: 515	Morsul, I want to give it to you. Your answers are funny & could work, but still none of them are right. Here's a hint: The icon that I use on this post has something to do with the answer. __________________ "This miserable drizzling afternoon I have been reading up old military lecture-notes again:- and getting bored with them after an hour and a half. I have done some touches to my nonsense fairy language - to its improvement."

06-06-2004, 09:00 PM	#171
Morsul the Dark Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 3,448	Oh wow the ring the book is only called The Lord of The Rings everything is connected to the ring. however since you were kind enough to put a hint I will venture my fourth guess(persistant arent I?) Smeagal to Deagal. "give it to us my precious my love." "why?" "Because it's my birthday and I wants it and in a blind wrath I would strike you or worse" "I already gave you a present." they fight please let it be right __________________ Morsul the Resurrected

06-07-2004, 02:19 AM	#172
Evisse the Blue Brightness of a Blade Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: wherever I may roam Posts: 2,685	sorry to butt in... but I have another guess: Boromir becoming infuriated with Frodo: "For I am too strong for you, halfling, and in blind wrath I would strike you or worse." Though that's probably not it either, because it's a conditional where a future tense 'would' make more sense. Hey, that's a great quote and great guesses too. __________________ And no one was ill, and everyone was pleased, except those who had to mow the grass.

06-07-2004, 12:35 PM	#173
Morsul the Dark Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 3,448	Sam to Gollum? Frodo- You won't run away Sam, will you? Gollum. Gollum-Know master we leads it to the black gate. Frodo the ring will hold you to your word. Sam- and I would strike you or worse. Frodo- why do you do that? Sam do what? F- call him names run him down ect... __________________ Morsul the Resurrected

06-07-2004, 12:55 PM	#174
Son of Númenor A Shade of Westernesse Join Date: May 2004 Location: The last wave over Atalantë Posts: 515	Sorry, Evisse & Morsul, those aren't what I'm looking for. Perhaps a less vague hint is in order. The line would have been spoken by a Ringbearer to a companion. __________________ "This miserable drizzling afternoon I have been reading up old military lecture-notes again:- and getting bored with them after an hour and a half. I have done some touches to my nonsense fairy language - to its improvement."

06-07-2004, 01:05 PM	#175
Morsul the Dark Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 3,448	ok Frodo to Sam Sam- I could carry iot for you. Frodo-No it is my burden and in a blind wrath i would strike you or worse no it is my burden mine alone __________________ Morsul the Resurrected

06-07-2004, 01:09 PM	#176
Son of Númenor A Shade of Westernesse Join Date: May 2004 Location: The last wave over Atalantë Posts: 515	You're on the right track. Here's a semi-hint: the 'blind wrath' is directly related to the last word in the real sentence. __________________ "This miserable drizzling afternoon I have been reading up old military lecture-notes again:- and getting bored with them after an hour and a half. I have done some touches to my nonsense fairy language - to its improvement."

06-07-2004, 01:27 PM	#177
Morsul the Dark Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 3,448	hmmm.... so it's frodo to sam just dont know where so here's a guess that might be acceptable Bilbo to Gandalf "If I am angry it's your fault! and in a blind wrath I would strike you or worse you want it for yourself." "Bilbo Baggins!" __________________ Morsul the Resurrected

06-08-2004, 06:14 AM	#178
Son of Númenor A Shade of Westernesse Join Date: May 2004 Location: The last wave over Atalantë Posts: 515	You were on the right track when you said, "so it's frodo to sam just dont know where." Think tower. __________________ "This miserable drizzling afternoon I have been reading up old military lecture-notes again:- and getting bored with them after an hour and a half. I have done some touches to my nonsense fairy language - to its improvement."

06-10-2004, 12:41 PM	#179
Morsul the Dark Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 3,448	in cirith ungol? when sam frees frodo. When Frodo demands the ring from sam? __________________ Morsul the Resurrected

06-10-2004, 01:12 PM	#180
Son of Númenor A Shade of Westernesse Join Date: May 2004 Location: The last wave over Atalantë Posts: 515	I am, of course, looking for a specific line. __________________ "This miserable drizzling afternoon I have been reading up old military lecture-notes again:- and getting bored with them after an hour and a half. I have done some touches to my nonsense fairy language - to its improvement."

06-10-2004, 02:41 PM	#181
Morsul the Dark Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 3,448	makes sad puppy-dog eye but good lord i know not which line it is that you speak of. __________________ Morsul the Resurrected

06-11-2004, 11:42 AM	#184
Son of Númenor A Shade of Westernesse Join Date: May 2004 Location: The last wave over Atalantë Posts: 515	I yield the floor to whoever wants it. __________________ "This miserable drizzling afternoon I have been reading up old military lecture-notes again:- and getting bored with them after an hour and a half. I have done some touches to my nonsense fairy language - to its improvement."

06-12-2004, 02:15 AM	#185
HerenIstarion Deadnight Chanter Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 4,244	I suppose it is Morsul's turn, than. Just out of curiosity: were it me or Evisse with the correct guess? __________________ Egroeg Ihkhsal - Would you believe in the love at first sight? - Yes I'm certain that it happens all the time!

06-14-2004, 10:30 AM	#186
Morsul the Dark Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 3,448	NOTE: I use all movie quotes for this becauser I can't quote the book as well as you all just keep that in mind for this one: "Oh that I would that it were Gandalf and not this BEAST that lived here for he is perhaps the only one I trully say is with me." __________________ Morsul the Resurrected

06-26-2004, 02:28 PM	#187
HerenIstarion Deadnight Chanter Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 4,244	I believe we'll do with the hint __________________ Egroeg Ihkhsal - Would you believe in the love at first sight? - Yes I'm certain that it happens all the time!

07-02-2004, 02:14 PM	#188
Morsul the Dark Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 3,448	hint: let's see the beast isn't exactly a beast this charactor is describing the person he is talking about and he has just learned devastating news. __________________ Morsul the Resurrected

07-03-2004, 05:17 AM	#189
Evisse the Blue Brightness of a Blade Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: wherever I may roam Posts: 2,685	wild guess Theoden about Wormtongue? __________________ And no one was ill, and everyone was pleased, except those who had to mow the grass.

07-09-2004, 05:24 AM	#190
HerenIstarion Deadnight Chanter Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 4,244	it's been a while... Dear Morsul seeing how we all are stumped, would you care to reveal the answer, and, as a victor, pose as a new question (but books this time, ple-ease, not movies, as the thread is, in general, book-oriented) cheers __________________ Egroeg Ihkhsal - Would you believe in the love at first sight? - Yes I'm certain that it happens all the time!

07-14-2004, 04:51 AM	#191
Evisse the Blue Brightness of a Blade Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: wherever I may roam Posts: 2,685	10 days rule, I'll post a new one! "...or in springtime we may indeed behold it." Should be easy... __________________ And no one was ill, and everyone was pleased, except those who had to mow the grass.

07-20-2004, 11:50 PM	#192
Morsul the Dark Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 3,448	sorry i couldnt respond i was getting my computer fixed and second this is my quote "a wizard should know better! Saruman, oh that i would..." ah anpother quote... i think i know the time the place but not the quote so again Sam to Frodo on Mount Doom talking about the shire and the flowers blossoming and strawberries please be detailed enough fore a correct answer __________________ Morsul the Resurrected

07-21-2004, 06:17 AM	#193
Evisse the Blue Brightness of a Blade Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: wherever I may roam Posts: 2,685	No, it's not that, the non quote was spoken earlier than that. And 'springtime' is mentioned in that dialogue but not by the speaker of the non-quote. __________________ And no one was ill, and everyone was pleased, except those who had to mow the grass.

07-31-2004, 09:07 AM	#194
Evisse the Blue Brightness of a Blade Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: wherever I may roam Posts: 2,685	Any more tries? Anyone? it's easy really. Check FOTR. __________________ And no one was ill, and everyone was pleased, except those who had to mow the grass.

08-03-2004, 10:33 AM	#196
Evisse the Blue Brightness of a Blade Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: wherever I may roam Posts: 2,685	Yes, that's it. Congratulations, you got it! Give us the next one. __________________ And no one was ill, and everyone was pleased, except those who had to mow the grass.

08-04-2004, 07:56 AM	#197
radagastly Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Washington, D. C., USA Posts: 299	This might be a bit tricky (hopefully): Tried to see them all private he did. I gave him what for. I wouldn't even take a message. __________________ But all the while I sit and think of times there were before, I listen for returning feet and voices at the door.

08-08-2004, 08:03 AM	#199
radagastly Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Washington, D. C., USA Posts: 299	No, its not the Gaffer, and it's not according to Sam. It's later in the story, outside the Shire. __________________ But all the while I sit and think of times there were before, I listen for returning feet and voices at the door.