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Nutshell version: I would rather lynch someone toDay than orchestrate a tie. While yes, a tie can be handy later on, right now our odds of getting a wolf are as high as they're likely to get, and to squander our opportunity to fight back and allow the baddies two kills in the Night seems wasteful to me. Frittering away our lynches before the dead can impact them really only benefits the wolves.
Crap. I got distracted. I'll give another quick read, but I may not end up voting. Sorry. ![]() x'd since more or less my last
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Yes, the Empowered Person gets their one vote doubled to two.
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I'm back and have been reading.
If I were to vote on vague suspicions of a furry-biter... Nogrod stands out...the insistence in needing a lynch tonight is pinging on my radar. I get the lynch is a needed weapon to get wolves, but as Form says sometimes it's worth waiting for the enemy to make the first move. And... Quote:
I'm not optimistic about organizing a tied-vote, there are too many variables and too many who probably would be against it. However, I'll be here for the rest of the night and it's likely what I will have in mind to do when I do vote. Now to read through page 4 and beyond!
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Mmmm... Regarding the recent-running Agan vs Lommy spat, I can't say that I really see a 'slip' where Lommy does in Agan's comment. However, I do think that Agan's reaction to Lommy's pointing it out is rather... overt? I'm not sure that's the word I'm looking for there. But it does strike me as almost too much, even going so far as to vote her in what looks to me like pure revenge. Although she couched her vote in reasoning, ironically I think I'd feel better about Agan if she'd simply been like "I'm offended that you think that of me, so I'm voting you".
As it stands, Agan does seem defensive to me. Of course, this is the first WW game we've had in a long while, so it might just be that she doesn't want to be the first lynch? Still, it does stick out to me.
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Basically - the intended use of the dead thread is that the dead, who know more than the living, can tip the scale of the village vote by giving an innocent or innocent-looking person a double vote. What we have been discussing is if there's a way to use the dead thread even more to our advantage, by gathering information from their votes. I still think it's a good topic to discuss, but to be realist, the most likely use for the dead thread will be the intended one. We should keep discussing it, but as morm so nicely points out, not on the expense of trying to find wolves. To be fair, I don't think that's a problem toDay though because we have to talk about something to give any vibes to each other toDay. If people abstain from voting or vote just to create a tie while not seemingly putting any energy in finding the baddies, *then* I might start getting worried. PS. Quote:
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I like the points morm and Boro raise about Nogrod. Feeling better about morm now as well.
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The Agan/Lommy fracas smells fishy to me, but that's one of those hindsight things I doubt I'll have a sense for until a couple Days have passed: they could be in cahoots or they could even both be innocent--but I doubt that latter one. One of them is probably a wolf.
It has occurred to me to make a list of people and rate them based on my impressions--but more than half the village would fall under "hasn't said enough for me to have any idea." Still, I suppose bedtime is nearing (and my attention flagging as it approaches), so I should start to think about who to vote for. It seems the village tends away from a tied vote, so while I prefer that as a plan, I should probably come up with a Plan B.
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Which either means a very small village (as in, the last day) or that person Y has no chance of getting lynched anyway. Most days the village will be big enough that the dead will have lots of options. Folks, please stop assuming people are trying to dictate to the dead! It's all the way back in post #34: the idea is that the dead have a choice. That way the dead can both cast a vote and send an additional message. And as for me, if/when I end up on the dead thread, I'd prefer to have as much ability to get information to the living as possible. In fact, I would be rather frustrated with (and suspicious of) anyone who muddles that process. It doesn't matter who decides how the message will be sent. It doesn't require elaborate choosing of spokespeople, just an agreement well before the deadline. The strategy won't make sense if the village gets very small, because the extra vote will carry too much weight in its own right, but early on, it could be very valuable. It's interesting how many people are arguing that it either can't be done or is somehow oppressive. And by interesting, I mean suspicious. |
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I have two candidates to vote: the phantom and Aganzir.
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One of the two it is then for me toDay. Of those with votes already I'm kind of understanding what Form is saying (even if I disagree with him in general) and think Macalaure speaks sense - which goes for Lommy too (even if I do wonder her insistence on the spokesperson -idea). I have not enough to say on Legate as yet and Nilp's self vote I'm just disregarding at this point. Of others (like most of the above) I have little to say - perhaps because I haven't paid that much attention to anyone thus far (which is purely my fault) but I am not going to make a full list of people when it is 3am. Checking the latest, giving everything a thought and then voting...
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Okay, so here is a list of what I think of people so far...
GREEN ZONE Nog - reasonable, okay, nothing that would require scrutiny so far Lommy - also reasonable, nothing that would give me reason to doubt her innocence Form - same thing, I disagree with his view of the situation, but he sounds genuine like a genuine innocent concerned about his village's wellbeing Kath - very little info, but nothing bad there Shasta - same thing Morm - not sure if I played with him ever before, but no problem there so far, reasonable posts and all. Mith - not any humongous amount of posts (which however on this thread might be an asset...), but certainly no signs of wishing to cast blame around, so, no problem. Rune - fairly little to go with, but so far so good, as far as I can tell Nerwen - likewise, been productive in any case and no evil Nerwen-vibes so far Sally - well. Not sure if it belongs here, since there is literally zero info, probably she should go into "grey" cathegory for now... but can't say anything as of yet. McCaber, Eomer AND Boro actually belong to the same cathegory; more or less. (And Gwath hasn't posted, or has he?) YELLOW ZONE The Phantom - being the spam-maniac he is, he could very well be a mastermind, but I at least think so far he does not seem that he would require removal Mac - kind of the same thing, been active, trying to sound reasonable, there was a bit of doubt on my side as to the genuine tone of his concerns, but then again, nothing that would really convince me he is a Wolf. Nilp - I have no idea if I ever played with him before, his style of posting sounds a bit fishy to me at times, but it is not really anything specific, might be just style - would have to really read more from him. Aganzir - nah, I think she's here just because I don't like her (to be expected, though) jumping in the car with The Phantom and adopting the slightly bossy attitude "I know what's the best for the village and I know it the best". Rikae - well she could totally be the Wolf, to be honest, but I mean, her points are well-reasoned, she is helpful, regardless of having different opinions on this on that, I could put her as well into the green league for the time being, it is just also that, like other of the "witty" players in this cathegory, her posts do not sound 100% clearly good-intentioned Loslote - kind of similar, could be green zone. Is kind of like Rikae in a smaller, more quiet package, but effectively so far the impression is fairly similar. Firefoot - at some point in the beginning did not make much sense, which made it overall a bit hazy (is he intentionally muddling waters, or just happened to phrase something in an unclear way), but otherwise, no reason to really vote for Lalaith - kind of a similar case, generally there is rather too little to make out anything out of her ORANGE ZONE Greenie - just too happy with too many smileys at some point; she had reasonable points, but she is not stupid. I have no idea what to make of the comment to Agan I mentioned above, although now it seems to me like that was rather random. But that's just the sauce; bottom line being, her "I am the nice clever helpful girl next door" attitude is sort of making me wonder whether it is genuine. Probably one of my choices for vote toDay. RED ZONE - empty so far - EDIT: x-ed after my last
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In the Agan/Lommy exchanges, I felt that for all I dislike Lommy's reactions (in that they're not what I would do in that situation and to me at least seem counterproductive), it feels more genuine, like how an innocent would respond. Agan's, in contrast, feel like an opportunistic move to try and provoke something that the rest of the village could leap on.
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Assuming that, I agree with the phantom: the spokesperson is whoever gives a reasonable list when the voting is done. It doesn't matter whether person X or person Y gets the extra vote, when both voted for person Z. It also doesn't matter which meaning we assign to empowering person X or person Y, as long as we're clear on it before DL. |
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The votes so far. Nilp -> Nilp Rune -> Formendacil Mormegil -> Macalaure Lalaith -> Legate Kath -> Formendacil 2 Aganzir -> Lommy Lommy -> Aganzir A pause for thought and then a vote.
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Thanks for the clarification, Kuru.
Anyway, as for the matter at hand - suddenly I feel the sleep is really coming at me, and it's really getting deeply late. (I do not understand the Finnish people, since it's even one hour more there than where I am at the moment.) My brain simply can't work any more, so just a few quick points. I am probably going to vote for Greenie, she really strikes me as the most suspicious person toDay. As for the sudden Lommy-Agan row, aside from probable tiredness of both. It of course is possible that the escalation might be coming from one of them being a Wolf; if so, then personally I'd say Agan. But because it might be really just an escalation of absolute nonsense, I am not really inclined to vote for either just because of that. That said... This is what I would think is exactly what happened, but that could be the case whether Agan is a Wolf or innocent. So here, not really much to base strong judgement on.
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Anyway, my brain is literally switching off, so
++A Little Green And good Night, village.
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Since Aganzir looks far more suspicious to me than Form (who has two votes already) and no one seems to pick on my "let's send the phantom to be checked by the dead" -idea, I'll go with
++ Aganzir She felt wrong all Day, too happy to be the one who is on top of everything and her totally unnecessary - and weird - "liking my points" when she did not (and was getting to sleep) looks too suspicious. Like trying to feel good as the point of making such a "point". But let's make sure we know what tp is sooner than later - or there is a firm chance we regret not doing it. Good night and see you in one of the threads toMorrow.
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So, we shouldn't be putting the "signals" into bandwagons of less than 3. Nog, the only way it's flimsy and far-fetched is if someone insists on jumping in and arguing needlessly about what vote should mean what (and anyone who does that looks very, very furry). As long as the dead have enough options, whatever the first person says should be fine. |
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I would think the Lommy vs. Agan stuff looked wolf-on-wolfy, if this were a game where that made sense.
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The dead will basically know 1/3 of the roles - well alignments - there's a lot of rom for distraction, tom-foolery, laziness, well made plots etc. to twist the vote of the dead not being what the Living would like it to be - or think they could interpret it to be.
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I'm fading fast from this waking world--which is quite unfair since I still have a good five hours or more on the Europeans--and I don't have a firm idea of who to vote for. If we go for actually lynching someone, my gut says to go with the 50% chance of Agan/Lommy over the 25% chance of "Just Anyone," but that's hardly fair to spring at the last minute after they've gone to bed--and grounded to begin with in a tenuous gut feeling that one of them is probably guilty.
Basically, my suspect list looks something like: Too Little Information to Guess: -Some of these people have posted more than others, but they're all still close enough to blank slates to me: Kath Shasta Boromir Mithalwen Rune Sally McCaber Eomer Nerwen Nilp Loslote Firefoot Lalaith Greenie Gwath The Others: Morm - In general, he seems sensible, but none of his opinions have stood out one way or another. Good camouflage for a wolf? Nogrod - The brashest personality offering commentary/suggestions today (setting Lommy and Agan aside). That makes me wary of him, but I think that's his style anyway--and I've agreed with enough of what he said. Lommy - She seems a bit too defensive, but that's not reason enough to lynch her. I incline to think her more innocent that not. Aganzir - Slightly more innocent than guilty to me--more flippant than defensive is the vibe I'm getting, for whatever little that's worth. She has the votes (as of starting this post) that we get a tie-waggon rolling between me and her, but I don't see that taking off giving the village response thus far. The Phantom - Oddly enough, I don't think of him as a wolf, so he probably is one--or worse, he's probably the Special Role and he's playing the a Werebear-Mythomancer. But that's not a concrete reason to lynch him on Day 1--and if we'll regret having him alive, we may regret having him take over the Dead Thread from the beginning just as likely... Mac - I've liked the statistics, but I'm not honestly sure what he's actually said beyond offering them. Rikae - Ought to be up with the "Insufficient Information" crew, probably, but posted late enough in the day that my attention has been flagged and... I'm not sure: hasn't said anything alarming, but I agree that something feels off about that... but it's nebulous. Legate - Similar to Morm in that I think he's contributed but in a camouflaged manner. I probably shouldn't trust him, but for now I do... Vote coming next post or so, most likely...
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Therefor, they won't cast a vote to reveal one of the Dead's roles until NIGHT 3. If we lynch today, and 2 wolf kills tonight. DAY 2, the 3 dead will be able to vote who in the Living gets an extra vote. And if there's a lynch DAY 2, than NIGHT 3 they make their first role reveal vote, but there's 4 dead now. Where if we don't lynch someone today, and the same plays out...wolves kill 2. The 2 Dead, on DAY 2 aren't enough to grant a Living the extra vote. Then we make a lynch DAY 2, so by the time they reach the 3 Dead residents, it's during a NIGHT phase where they will vote on revealing one of their roles.
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1 hour to deadline, and people are still discussing dead thread stuff. Wolves trying to look like they're contributing? Innocents who can't let go of a topic now that they've sunk their non-canine teeth into? I'm slightly leaning towards the latter, since in this game wolves don't have to fabricate cases, so there's no need come up with stuff out of thin air, or to look for an alternative to not have to.
I like how, in this game, if someone you suspect votes for somebody else you suspect, it doesn't cause you to second-guess your suspicions. Makes things easier. ![]() I don't really suspect morm anymore now, and I'd rather not vote for Rune. Nogrod made his way up my suspect list, but I feel quite unconfident about it. Unless something unexpected happens, I will vote for Aganzir. |
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Hmm maybe.. but it still seems wrong - maybe because it is so passive and seems to give too much of a free rein to the wolves for too long before we do anything. Gah..
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The votes so far.
Nilp -> Nilp Rune -> Formendacil Mormegil -> Macalaure Lalaith -> Legate Kath -> Formendacil 2 Aganzir -> Lommy Lommy -> Aganzir Legate -> A Little Green Nogrod -> Aganzir 2 Nine votes. Assuming nothing comes in under the wire, my vote will make ten. That still leaves 14, which is more than enough to tidal wave all that has come before--but we're into the final hour and who knows if all shall vote? ++Formendacil I still think a tied vote with no lynch is the way to go, so I'm going to put myself up one more. It's either that or not vote at all, and I think not voting would be a worse cop-out than voting for myself. I do think Aganzir could be guilty, but I don't think it strongly enough to put her in the lead. I'd rather trust the village to tie us up--at the very least, maybe this will force the Silent Majority to make a decision between lynching or not.
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Nog and others- if you are good and Rikae is evil, I do wonder what your excuse is for being so clearly dominated when it comes to exercising common sense. Rikae is just hitting it out of the park. People seem to be trying to make things more difficult than they have to be. It's like we're trying to hand you a weapon and you don't want to take it.
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Form, I don't think you can do this. I'm pretty sure Nilp has trademarked senselessly self-voting on Day1.
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++ Aganzir
Still feels wrong too tired to look again
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Can someone start at the beginning and explain why Agan is suspicious? I just skimmed over the exchange and it looks like she's suspected because she made a joke, and then she is further suspected because she didn't like being suspected for making a joke. Is that accurate or am I missing something?
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That's copyright infringement!
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Wow, I forgot how long it takes to read through four pages of Day 1.
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Yeah, I wouldn't mind voting for Nog, but only if we have an actual real chance of leaping him with or ahead of Form and Agan. Otherwise it feels like a waste.
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Ok, hypothetical, you and me living have 4 votes, and say hypothetically the phantom is dead and the dead wanted to know his role during the NIGHT. Lommy, spokesperson during the next DAY phase says something like "if you know phantom is a predator give your extra vote to one of Nog's voters (leaving 4 options). If you know phantom is a prey give your extra vote to one of Boro's votes (again leaving 4 options). If you don't know phantom's role, or you know stuff about the Living lynch we don't know...abort. Don't tell us something with your extra vote and give it to anyone who did not vote for Nog or Boro." That's not forcing the Dead into a box to give an extra vote to only a few people. Although it leaves it up to open to tampering if their are more wolves. But, that would in turn mean we're doing a good job (or the wolves are doing a good job killing each other...or both). Also, a Dead wolf I would imagine shouldn't be completely put off with a chance to work with Dead innocents if it means they help their own pack by weakening their rivals. If I happen to die soon, the first wolf I'm aware of in the Dead thread, I will certainly make a proposal to make a temporary alliance in an effort to kill off their rival pack. I don't know if any of them will take up that offer, but I can be quite persuasive. ![]()
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Join Date: Aug 2006
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Illusionary Holbytla
Join Date: Dec 2003
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I'm here, I'm caught up, and I'm confused.
The Lommy/Agan thing is odd to me but I'm not sure which one seems more suspicious. I don't know Agan at all so I have no idea if this is normal. Lommy seems snappy though. I don't have time for any kind of thorough analysis so a vote will be a shot in the dark... one thing that has occurred to me is that it seems unlikely to me that a wolf would be expressing much confusion about the rules, having had the whole previous night to hash some of those issues out with their buddies? Nogrod seems a little too bumbling in the beginning to feel wolfish to me, for example (picking on you because your name is currently being discussed, sorry!). |
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