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I rather like Pitch's vote. Adds to the number of notches for his innocence.
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Now I feel like I'm alone here. Been waiting for the past couple hours for someone to post.
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Y'all are boring. I'm going to bed.
For the vote, it's between Pitch, Shasta, and Eomer. Whoever manages to convince me better of his guilt by the end of the Day receives the vote! ![]() ETA: I shall be back before DL to make a final decision and vote.
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Clearly G55 is sexist.
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I guess I'm filling in for Agan too.
![]() Ok, now to bed for real... unless another post appears in the next minute or so. Ah, the addictiveness of werewolf! Edit: xed with Shasta's second post. Yay!
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Aye, but under different circumstances.
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And, as Pitch said, if she's a wolf and is playing her first ever game so well, she deserves to win. Though I'd rather have a goodies' victory in that case, I would not grudge a loss to her. But that's beside the point. I'm not analysing her posts because she doesn't strike me as the remaining wolf. Bed! 'Night all!
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Shasta, you voted Nessa for no discernible reason. Like I said before, I find that rather fortuitous. Cop and G's votes were decisive, hence I believe them to be innocent.
G55, I seem to remember talking about Kit a bit on Day One (to defend her from Inzil); I talked about Nessa when she received votes and voted herself. Don't really understand this criticism; don't really understand why Pitch is so compelled by it.
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Back now. I'm going to do a quick analysis of the first two Days for each person and then look at the posts from toDay.
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I'm starving hungry, so posting my analysis and deciding on a vote will have to wait until after dinner (can't concentrate any more!). But currently I am tending towards seeing Pitchwife as innocent, leaving Eomer and Shasta as the remaining suspects. Points made by G55 and Pitch about Eomer seem fairly persuasive, so if I had to pick someone ASAP, I would probably pick Eomer. But I still need to consider the case against Shasta carefully. He hasn't said much yet, so I want to see more of what he has to say. He's planning to analyse me, but I would very much like to see what he thinks of the other candidates too.
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#19 - summary of posts thus far. Doesn't think anyone looks very suspicious as of yet. Has been talking a bit with Inzil.
#39 - notes that she'd intended to vote for one of the quieter players/people who haven't shown up. #46 - does the math on what it will mean for the village should Pitch be modfired. #55 - votes for Nessa. Reasons given - won't vote for Pitch as he's likely to be modfired, and this; Quote:
#59 - responds to Nessa. In my paranoia (and my own stubborn refusal to go with the crowd, since basically everyone else thinks she's innocent), this post reads like Wolf A apologizing to Wolf B for voting them. Day 2: #67 - Hm. Quote:
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#78 - analyzes Nessa's vote for Pitchwife and the wolf pack's kill of Nerwen. All decent reasoning as far as I can tell, except for the things that were already mentioned earlier in thread. #79 - three paragraphs of defending Inzil for his "wolf-hooking" plan, and then this - Quote:
#119 - As I read this post, I'm slowly realizing that I'm stating a lot of what Kitanna already said, and that you've already answered. ![]() Especially about the Nessa-vote. I see you've answered that. It appears you had a fine reason to vote for Nessa the whole time... so why not just say that from the beginning? Now there's no proof that you didn't think up the entire thing after the fact. ![]() #125 - analyzes Inzil and Kitanna regarding the Seer claims. #127 - after another long theoretical analysis, votes Inzil. This turned out to be the correct vote, but I don't like this - Quote:
#146 - Potential wolves are Eomer, myself, and Pitchwife. This tracks from her previous day's suspicion, when she was confident in G55's innocence. Conclusions to come. My eyes are blurring.
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Okay, so, those of you who know me know that I tend to lean on the side of suspicion when I analyze somebody (it's the paranoia, I promise). My analysis of Cop isn't much different - I saw several things that made me suspicious. However, as late in the day as it is, with no one else around, I feel like voting for Cop now would be a throwaway vote - also, knowing how biased I can be, I'd like to give her a chance to at least respond to what I've written. Plus I've got to hit the hay.
Having said that, I feel like I don't have much choice but to go with the self-preservation vote - ++Eomer Good night.
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I don't think that we have much to learn from yesterDay's voting. It would be a good tactic for a wolf to vote for Inzil there and leave the innocents to vote for Kitanna, and after the point when it looked as if innocents might not go for Kitanna it would still be good for self preservation.
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If he's a wolf, it's impossible for him to be defending a Pitchwolf here. It is possible that he's a wolf defending a fellow Nessawolf and trying to discourage a third vote for her. He explains his reasoning later, and it makes decent sense. Quote:
His comment earlier about thinking he sees a move and considering the possibility of "Inzil plus either Sally or Nerwen as packmates" (followed by a later vote for Sally) may have been an attempt to cast suspicion on the latter two innocents. Hmm...This is quite vague, but I wonder if, given that Inzil was looking suspicious at the end of Day 1, Nerwen being killed was a response to Eomer's analysis? Perhaps to try to make him or Inzil look less suspicious. I'm not sure this reasoning follows, so I'll look it over again once I'm done. He still voted for Sally even after Nessa's suspicious move. It was essentially a throwaway vote, and it came a minute after G55's vote for Nessa, so he may or may not have seen the latter. Inzilwolf's analysis pegged Eomer as a wolf. Bluff or double bluff? What a headache. It's probably better just to ignore this point. Eomer says that Quote:
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Shasta He really hasn't posted much, and that's worrying. He made the first vote for Nessa, which I do not think does anything much to prove innocence. At the time, Nessa had not done anything hugely suspicious (although I think it was enough to base a vote on at a pinch). So - on Day 1, Shasta says very little, and then votes Nessa. I think he had reasonable grounds for his vote, given the circumstances, but it could have been a vote for a packmate which he wasn't expecting anyone to follow up on seriously. Galadriel55 makes a point in her analysis that Shasta's vote changes the dynamics of the Day's voting and that there was no real need for him to keep away from the Kitanna-wagon. I'm not quite so sure about this. To me it looks as if that would have been a safe vote for a wolf. But I see that Pitchwife doesn't seem to think so. Quote:
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G55 mentioned that something Shasta said on Day 2 (about how a frustrated Seer-Kitanna might withhold an innocent's name) helped her a lot in her reasoning for voting Inzil. That reasoning also helped me out a lot. But, just because it's sensible doesn't mean he can't be a wolf. I see Shasta's just made a post in which he's quite suspicious of me. I'll consider this after I've finished writing up what I meant to in this post. Pitchwife Not here on Day 1, of course, so nothing to learn from that. Quote:
Saying that he had thought Inzil might be Radagast based on his Day 1 hinting makes some sense, and even known innocent Sally was taken in by that. I think that was has persuaded me is that Pitch has not been behaving the way a sensible wolf might. Essentially, he's been behaving in a way that a wolf could easily have avoided. As I write this I'm feeling a little less sure of his innocence. At present I'm not planning to vote for him, but I'll check over other people's analysis and anything said since and think it over again. Galadriel55 If she's a wolf, she's been playing a very calm game and has failed to make any mistakes. I think she's been under the least suspicion out of the non-known-innocents still in the game, which makes me worry a little bit just in case we've been played very well. Her vote for Nessa was third and the final one needed. She could have been hoping that Eomer or Nerwen would vote for Kitanna and thus give Nessa a fighting chance. But Nerwen did have some mild suspicion of Nessa, and a wolf might reasonably have thought she would have voted for her, had she voted. In which case giving the final vote for Nessa would be a bright move which could reasonably insulate G55 against much suspicion for the rest of the game. Even so, that would be very risky and probably unnecessary. If G55 is a bold wolf, I think she's done very well. But I think that if she's innocent as I expect, her train of thought was logical in the circumstances. Kitanna said that Quote:
G55 indicated early on that she would vote Inzil unless something spectacular happened. Now, Inzil would have been caught anyway by toDay, so no wolf really gains from where they placed their vote yesterday, but her analysis was fairly persuasive and she might as well have placed her vote right then. Wolves would still have benefited heavily from the extra Day it would have taken to lynch Inzil, had we not believed Kitanna in the end. At this point I still don't have any real suspicion of G55. Given that I think the wolf is likely in the other three, I'm going to continue assuming that G55 is innocent. |
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I will vote
++SHASTA And I will also say, clearly risking accusations of 'buddying up', that Coppermirror's posts cannot be those of a first time player. I believe she may be a Downer of the past, returning under a new username. ![]()
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DL is in ~30, correct?
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I think I shall be voting for Eomer in another 15 minutes. I don't want to put a third name into the tally, and between Shasta and Eomer the latter is more suspicious at the moment.
Let's see if the world can turn over in only about 15 minutes. ![]() Edit: xed with sally - yay, I'm not alone! - yes, about 30 minutes.
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Re Shasta's suspicions of me:
Not much I can say to refute what Shasta thinks of as me trying too hard to act innocent. My intended strategy as an innocent in my first game has been to not worry too much about appearing innocent or suspicious, and to be fairly loud and try to say what I'm thinking. In part, hoping that lack of guile and polish will convey itself on its own while I'm concentrating on finding wolves. This may be why I'm coming over as acting too innocent to one or two of you. I could probably have been quieter and sounded less that way, but I believe I would be of less use to the village if I had. Quote:
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You're saying that my initial reason for voting for Nessa (not actually suspecting her, but wanting to create a tie and see what happened) was a "fine reason to vote", but voting for Nessa based on her suspicious vote for Pitch was a bad reason? The only other reading is that you're saying Nessa's behaviour in latching on to suspicion of Sally would be a bad reason to vote for her. Which is exactly what you did when you voted... It looks as if you are placing emphasis on what I said after I mentioned the basis for my vote. I find it a bit suspicious, especially since, had the latter bit been my reason (which it wasn't), it would have been on the same grounds as your vote. On the other hand, Seer-Kitanna seemed to have the same impression of my voting reasons, and of course she was innocent. This is the full version of what I said, with emphasis added. Quote:
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Mayhaps I could get a vote count? That would be superb.
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I'm intending to vote for Eomer. If he's not a wolf, I will vote for Shasta the next Day.
G55, you asked me a few things before. I'll answer that toDay if I have the time, and toMorrow if I don't. But sorry, Eomer and G55, I'm 100% newbie. Flattered that you think I'm not, though. I've just read a loooot of old games. It's interesting how different it is to play than it is to read. |
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Anyway...I would have liked to hear what Sally has to say about who she currently suspects before I place my vote, but I think I need to vote now, so I will. ++Eomer I also suspect Shasta pretty strongly, mostly because of what might have been an attempt from Inzil to protect him, so I plan to vote for him next time if Eomer isn't a wolf. |
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I see the world hasn't turned over yet.
++Eomerwarg I said warg, but I hope wolf. Edit: xed with Cop's vote.
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I feel like a wolf!Shasta would be much more frustrated by his pack's circumstances so far.
[B]++Eomer]/b[ Sorry. No time.
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Let's hope we'll get 3 wolves in a row.
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If we did it would be my best game ever.
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A large mob of townsfolk entered the tavern. Eomer greeted them warmly and asked if they wanted anything to drink.
"Don't play the innocent game with us," said Coppermirror. Eomer's expression turned to one of confusion. "Innocent game? What is going on? I'm not a wolf, you know that. And haven't I seen you somewhere else, Coppermirror?" At that moment, the villagers seized Eomer and hauled him off to the gallows. "Stop!" he protested. "You're making a terrible mistake!" "It is you who made the mistake of messing with our town," responded Pitchwife as the noose was placed around Eomer's neck. "Wait! Wait!" cried Eomer desperately. "If you kill me, you'll all run out of beer!" The mob was momentarily taken aback. They glanced around nervously at the prospect of losing their alcohol supply. Within a few seconds, though, Shasta declared "Enough already!" and released the trapdoor. There was, however, no transformation when Eomer's neck snapped. "Oh no..." "He wasn't..." It was true. The villagers had killed one of their own. --------------------------------------------------------------------- The Living Coppermirror: Toymaker Galadriel55: Half-deaf tapestry weaver Pitchwife: Grumpy old man satansaloser2005: Wandering minstrel Shastanis Althreduin: Wandering minstrel The Dead Meneltarmacil (Moderator): Gutted by wolves on Night 1 Nessa Telrunya (Werewolf): Beaten and burned by villagers on Day 1 Nerwen (Ordinary Villager): Impaled by wolves on Night 2 Inziladun (Werewolf): Killed in pie fight with villagers on Day 2 Kitanna (Radagast): Neck snapped by wolf on Night 3 Eomer of the Rohirrim (Ordinary Villager): Hung by villagers on Day 3 Night 4 begins. I need a name from the Wolf.
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Upon waking, the villagers realized that Galadriel55 was no longer among them.
They went to her house to figure out what had happened, but once there, a ghastly sight awaited them. G55's skeleton and various remains were strewn all over the floor, while her skin had been stretched out and hung on the wall amongst her tapestries. On it, the outline of a white hand had been crudely drawn in blood. The villagers took down the loathsome trophy and set to burying the body. -------------------------------------------------------- The Living Coppermirror: Toymaker Pitchwife: Grumpy old man satansaloser2005: Wandering minstrel Shastanis Althreduin: Wandering minstrel The Dead Meneltarmacil (Moderator): Gutted by wolves on Night 1 Nessa Telrunya (Werewolf): Beaten and burned by villagers on Day 1 Nerwen (Ordinary Villager): Impaled by wolves on Night 2 Inziladun (Werewolf): Killed in pie fight with villagers on Day 2 Kitanna (Radagast): Neck snapped by wolf on Night 3 Eomer of the Rohirrim (Ordinary Villager): Hung by villagers on Day 3 Galadriel55 (Ordinary Villager): Skinned by wolf on Night 4 Day 4 has dawned.
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So G55 was taken instead of Sally. This is very interesting indeed, and quite a surprise.
Why her?...Pretty much everyone trusted her. She wasn't quite at the point of being a known innocent like Sally, but there was no realistic chance that anyone would vote for her. I suppose she might as well have been a known innocent, if you think of it that way. In which case.... There must be some advantage to the wolf of killing her. Sally, the wolf may believe that you will be easier to persuade than G55 that they're innocent and one of the rest of us is not. Either that, or they are doing this just to confuse us. G55 was around a fair amount yesterDay and did what I thought was quite good analysis. Perhaps there's a chance she struck upon a damaging point for the wolf. I know I said yesterday that I would vote Shasta. However, I thought about this overNight and decided to do an analysis of Pitchwolf today too, just in case I find anything. There's one point I suspect Shasta on that's bothering me a bit and which I want to look over again in case it's a trick against him. At present, before going through my analysis, I do still find Shasta the most suspicious and the one I'm most likely to vote for. But the Day is long. And really, after such a puzzling move from the wolf, I feel quite motivated to track them down and not allow luck to enter into the equation. Let's see...out of the known innocents from yesterDay, Eomer thought that Shasta was most suspicious, but G55, if I remember right, thought Eomer and Pitch were the most suspicious. And I thought Eomer and Shasta were. Can't remember what Sally thought. ToDay is the last Day. If we fail toDay, the village loses without a doubt. Worst case scenario: ToDay: 3 villagers, 1 wolf. We lynch an innocent villager. 2 villagers, 1 wolf. ToNight: The wolf kills an innocent villager. Village loses. Yes, that's got to be correct. Therefore...I must assume that the move of taking out G55 is to the wolf's advantage in some way. Even a very small way. My first thought was that G55 might have been got rid of because she was very unlikely to vote for me (and me for her). However, the more I think of that the more I think that can't be it. Because a hypothetical wolf-me would have to be a complete idiot to get rid of someone who would be so unlikely to vote against me. Eomer, I'm sorry we made a mistake lynching you yesterDay! I'll do my best to look for the wolf. Although I'm beginning to think they're a trickier customer than expected. Sally, can you think of any reason why the wolf would want to keep you alive rather than G55? (Although there's a possibility G55 was killed because of her own actions.) |
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I wonder if this is the action of a Pitchwolf?
I need to check the past Day to be sure, but I believe G55 was most suspicious of Eomer-innocent and Pitch. YesterDay I said that I would definitely vote Shasta toDay. Sally yesterday did at least consider the possibility of a Shastawolf earlier on, too. A Pitchwolf could have been trying to get rid of the person with the most serious suspicions of him. Or it could be a Shastawolf trying to pull off a double bluff and give us a headache. Aargh. I'm going to sleep on this, and come back in the morning to get analysing and checking over the previous Day. |
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Or then, you know, maybe this is the action of a wolf who hasn't yet made up her mind whether to frame Shasta or me and wants to keep both options open.
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The Sweetest Spoiler
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Wait, what?
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Preface: Shasta, I love you, babe. Shasta gets upset when his pack is demolished, especially in short order. I know this. YesterDay he showed no signs of being a wolfy wolf boy, at least a really frustrated wolfy wolf boy. When he was up for lynch yesterDay, he did vote to save himself, but he didn't do anything....rash isn't the correct word, but I've had a sleep-depriving few days, so I'll use it anyway, lest I use something even more rude by mistake. The point is that he handled yesterDay really rather well, which, given his recent trend to not handle lynchings well, led me to think yesterDay that he is probably innocent. That said, he has had a wolf victory in the recent past, which easily could have tempered that losing streak rage that I know very well he has been feeling of late. So if that has inclined him to be less bitter about his pack being taken away from him, I could see him handling yesterDay's situation quite well despite the circumstances. Also, Shasta is a fabulous lone wolf, and may in fact flourish in this adversity, especially since his packmates were struck down so quickly. Shasta Alwolfduin would not hesitate to vote a packmate if it meant the good of the pack. Thus, analyzing his vote record is rather pointless, especially given the craziness of Kitagast and Wolfiladun. He once cast the killing blow against me when we were in a pack together, and then went on to win the game due in large part to that action. Put nothing past him. He is a tricksy, wild little psychic flaming wolf boy, and he is capable of anything. In short, he's not acting like a cornered Shastawolf would normally act, but normality has changed recently, so that may in fact mean nothing. I need to think more. I'm going to go look at some posts now, but bear with me, as I could still use some more sleep and may crawl (literally) back into bed at some point during my endeavors.
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Wight of the Old Forest
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That's not saying we should rule Cop out. Whether or not she's really new to the Downs (see Eomer's speculation yesterDay), she's clearly not new to the game as per her posting, so I'm not giving her passes anymore because "a first-timer wouldn't have done that".
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Wight of the Old Forest
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Argn. I have that nagging paranoia in me that Cop is secretly a very cunning wolf about to sail through and make it (when I read her first post(s) toDay I thought I saw a wolf explaining her choice of kill), but every time I think I find something wolvish in her posts, it dissolves under closer inspection.
So I sought enlightenment in Shasta's analysis of her and would like to comment a few points. Quote:
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What stuck out to me in this quote was the phrasing "I don't feel comfortable", which sounds like she's very concerned with how her vote will be viewed by others, and with not raising suspicion against herself. I also notice that every Day up to now, she voted for the player who would end up lynched. I don't know why, but somehow I find that creepy. (Which is a feeling, not an argument.) The rest of the points Shasta brings against her are pretty much could-bes (or could-be-nots. So yes, I'd say his analysis is a wee bit biased, but I've seen far worse ones (in term of bias, not quality) from a Shastawolf, and his reflection on the matter in his voting post does sound innocent (whether naturally or studiously so, I've no idea). Which doesn't bring us very much further, I'm afraid. ![]() By the way, I suppose you've all figured out that I'll have to vote first again, and that I'll vote for either Cop or Shasta; also that if I screw up and vote the unknown ordo, the wolf can pile on it. That in mind, is anybody around to talk? I don't have all night.
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Werewolf Psychic
Join Date: Apr 2007
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You guys are going to make my head swell up like a balloon.
![]() But in any case, why is Sally not dead? Love you, dear, but having a known innocent alive at endgame just... I don't know. I suppose G55 might have been just as good, as no one ever seriously suspected her... but still, a Seer-dreamt innocent means there's no chance Sally will be lynched, whereas there was always the tiny chance G55 could have been framed today. I'm going to have to go back and read more, but given Cop's fixation on voting me today should Eomer turn out innocent, and the fact that she's still alive today, almost makes me think we have a Pitchwolf. But I can't say that with any surety, as I haven't looked at him at all yet. That was just my first reaction. In addition, Cop responded to some of my points against her yesterday by simple acknowledgement ("Yeah, I did that, so what?") which is something I'm never comfortable with. Hmm.
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Shasta– ... However, if he's innocent his famous clairvoyant powers must be taking the week off. Meanwhile, the Night-kills have been awfully effective– almost like we're dealing with a psychic wolf... - Nerwen, WW LXXV Last edited by Shastanis Althreduin; 08-16-2012 at 04:21 PM. Reason: X'd with one Pitch. |
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In any case, I'm having to run out the door now. I should be back in a few hours.
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Werewolf Psychic
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