Names of Middle-Earth - Page 5 - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Sophia the Thunder Mistress · 04-11-2003, 10:07 PM

Precisely [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

elven maiden Earwen · 04-11-2003, 10:16 PM

What is Soronúmë, who made it, with what, and what does it mean?

tulkas · 04-11-2003, 10:41 PM

Soronume is a constellation made by Varda with the silver dews from the vats of Telperion. It means, 'Eagle of the West'

tulkas · 04-12-2003, 12:15 AM

if i don't get a new question in by tomorrow then someone else can do it

tulkas · 04-12-2003, 12:30 AM

haven't been told i'm right yet, so i can't post one yet, but the above post applies

elven maiden Earwen · 04-12-2003, 06:32 PM

correct you are.

tulkas · 04-12-2003, 10:22 PM

What is Karningul and what does it mean?

alaklondewen · 04-13-2003, 07:25 AM

It means 'Deep-cloven-valley' or Rivendell. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

tulkas · 04-13-2003, 09:44 PM

perfect alaklondewen

alaklondewen · 04-14-2003, 08:04 PM

Thank you, it's not often one reaches perfection. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

Okay, give me literal meaning/language/another name.

Kûd-dûkan

Beren87 · 04-14-2003, 08:12 PM

Hobbits, my dear Alak.

alaklondewen · 04-14-2003, 08:14 PM

Yes, dear, but you are forgetting the first two questions: Literal meaning and language. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

Beren87 · 04-14-2003, 08:35 PM

Ah, I took the slashes to mean "either-or"

Hole-Dweller/Rohirric/Hobbits

alaklondewen · 04-14-2003, 09:06 PM

You are absolutely correct! Please proceed.

Beren87 · 04-15-2003, 03:32 PM

What was the name of the event where the Mayor of the Shire was elected?

**The Saucepan Man** · 04-15-2003, 04:34 PM

The Free Fair, which was held every seven years on the White Downs.

elven maiden Earwen · 06-24-2003, 05:52 PM

Mr. Saucepan Man would you like to continue?

**The Saucepan Man** · 06-24-2003, 06:17 PM

Why not. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

What was the name for the Hither Shores, and where were they?

Beren87 · 06-24-2003, 06:35 PM

The Hither Shores is another name for Middle-Earth.

**The Saucepan Man** · 06-24-2003, 07:29 PM

I'm looking for something a bit more specific.

Beren87 · 06-24-2003, 07:34 PM

Well, they're Eldarin names.

**The Saucepan Man** · 06-25-2003, 07:53 PM

The "Hither Shores" is used to refer to a more specific area of Middle Earth ...

elven maiden Earwen · 06-25-2003, 08:14 PM

Neverast?

**The Saucepan Man** · 06-25-2003, 08:16 PM

Nevrast is the name that I am looking for, but where were they?

Beren87 · 06-25-2003, 08:19 PM

As in the song of Earendil, the "Hither Shores" is referring to all of ME. Maybe specifically that where mortals are, but that could be said to be anywhere. It's used once in the tale of Numenor, but with more bearing placed on the actualy meaning of the word "hither" than anything else.

Ah, I bet you do mean specifically where mortals were don't you?

**The Saucepan Man** · 06-26-2003, 06:41 AM

Nevrast means Hither Shores. So I am looking for the location of Nevrast for the final part of the answer.

elven maiden Earwen · 06-26-2003, 11:36 AM

northwestern coast of Beleriand?

Beren87 · 06-26-2003, 02:52 PM

Wait wait, Nevrast is the "hither shore". That means something totally different from the "Hither Shores". The Hither shores is a term referring to all of ME, but specifically where men inhabit.

**The Saucepan Man** · 06-26-2003, 06:59 PM

Hmm, having checked the index to my copy of the Silmarillion, I see that you are right, Beren. Just goes to show that you can't always rely on the ol' Complete Tolkien Companion. [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img] First time it's let me down, though. [img]smilies/frown.gif[/img]

But, Earwen gave both answers that I was looking for, so it's your turn next, O elf maid. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

elven maiden Earwen · 06-26-2003, 07:01 PM

Quick and easy.

Give me four names for Aragorn?

Beren87 · 06-26-2003, 07:13 PM

Ellesar and Elfstone (by Galadriel and people of Gondor)

Strider (in Bree)

Longshanks (by Sam)

Wingfoot (by Eomer)

elven maiden Earwen · 06-26-2003, 10:35 PM

correct [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

Beren87 · 06-27-2003, 03:38 PM

What was the "red-hill-land"?

Telchar · 06-28-2003, 06:46 PM

Just as a side note: Sam didn't name Aragorn 'Longshanks'... Bill Ferny did

Sophia the Thunder Mistress · 07-03-2003, 12:32 PM

Ooh, Beren's getting his movies and his books mixed up! (happens to the best of us, I should know [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img])

Anyway, red-hill-land... I will venture a guess:

caran- red
dol- hill

Cardolan- red-hill-land?

Sophia

Beren87 · 07-07-2003, 06:33 AM

Quote:

Ooh, Beren's getting his movies and his books mixed up!

Egad! *throws his DVD out the window*

You're correct Sophia, it is Cardolan. Nice guess.

Sophia the Thunder Mistress · 07-07-2003, 07:22 AM

Who was "Elf-Foam"?

Gwaihir the Windlord · 07-08-2003, 02:53 AM

Elwing.

Sophia the Thunder Mistress · 07-10-2003, 09:51 AM

Nope... she was "Star-Spray" I believe.

Stops. Feels stupid. Alters question. "Elf-rain"... who was "Elf-Rain"?

Apologizes.

[ July 10, 2003: Message edited by: Sophia the Thunder Mistress ]

Tarien Ithil · 07-12-2003, 04:42 AM

Was it Elbereth? I dunno, it just came into my head........

04-11-2003, 10:07 PM	#161
Sophia the Thunder Mistress Scent of Simbelmynë Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Aboard Highwind, bound for Traverse Town Posts: 1,780	Precisely [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] __________________ The seasons fall like silver swords, the years rush ever onward; and soon I sail, to leave this world, these lands where I have wander'd. O Elbereth! O Queen who dwells beyond the Western Seas, spare me yet a little time 'ere white ships come for me!

04-11-2003, 10:16 PM	#162
elven maiden Earwen Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A world that never was and never will be Posts: 1,300	What is Soronúmë, who made it, with what, and what does it mean? __________________ We pillage and plunder, we rifle and loot, Drink up me hearties, Yo Ho. the looniest site in the world!!!

04-12-2003, 06:32 PM	#166
elven maiden Earwen Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A world that never was and never will be Posts: 1,300	correct you are. __________________ We pillage and plunder, we rifle and loot, Drink up me hearties, Yo Ho. the looniest site in the world!!!

04-13-2003, 07:25 AM	#168
alaklondewen Song of Seregon Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Following the road less traveled Posts: 1,193	It means 'Deep-cloven-valley' or Rivendell. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] __________________ At last I understand why we have waited! This is the ending. Now not day only shall be beloved, but night too shall be beautiful and blessed and all its fear pass away!

04-14-2003, 08:04 PM	#170
alaklondewen Song of Seregon Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Following the road less traveled Posts: 1,193	Thank you, it's not often one reaches perfection. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] Okay, give me literal meaning/language/another name. Kûd-dûkan __________________ At last I understand why we have waited! This is the ending. Now not day only shall be beloved, but night too shall be beautiful and blessed and all its fear pass away!

04-11-2003, 10:41 PM	#163
tulkas Pile O'Bones Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 19	Soronume is a constellation made by Varda with the silver dews from the vats of Telperion. It means, 'Eagle of the West'

04-12-2003, 12:15 AM	#164
tulkas Pile O'Bones Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 19	if i don't get a new question in by tomorrow then someone else can do it

04-12-2003, 12:30 AM	#165
tulkas Pile O'Bones Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 19	haven't been told i'm right yet, so i can't post one yet, but the above post applies

04-12-2003, 10:22 PM	#167
tulkas Pile O'Bones Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 19	What is Karningul and what does it mean?

04-13-2003, 09:44 PM	#169
tulkas Pile O'Bones Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 19	perfect alaklondewen

04-14-2003, 08:12 PM	#171
Beren87 Master of the Secret Fire Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Between fire and ice, death and life Posts: 2,241	Hobbits, my dear Alak.

04-14-2003, 08:14 PM	#172
alaklondewen Song of Seregon Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Following the road less traveled Posts: 1,193	Yes, dear, but you are forgetting the first two questions: Literal meaning and language. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] __________________ At last I understand why we have waited! This is the ending. Now not day only shall be beloved, but night too shall be beautiful and blessed and all its fear pass away!

04-14-2003, 08:35 PM	#173
Beren87 Master of the Secret Fire Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Between fire and ice, death and life Posts: 2,241	Ah, I took the slashes to mean "either-or" Hole-Dweller/Rohirric/Hobbits

04-14-2003, 09:06 PM	#174
alaklondewen Song of Seregon Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Following the road less traveled Posts: 1,193	You are absolutely correct! Please proceed. __________________ At last I understand why we have waited! This is the ending. Now not day only shall be beloved, but night too shall be beautiful and blessed and all its fear pass away!

04-15-2003, 03:32 PM	#175
Beren87 Master of the Secret Fire Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Between fire and ice, death and life Posts: 2,241	What was the name of the event where the Mayor of the Shire was elected?

04-15-2003, 04:34 PM	#176
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	The Free Fair, which was held every seven years on the White Downs. __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

06-24-2003, 05:52 PM	#177
elven maiden Earwen Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A world that never was and never will be Posts: 1,300	Mr. Saucepan Man would you like to continue? __________________ We pillage and plunder, we rifle and loot, Drink up me hearties, Yo Ho. the looniest site in the world!!!

06-24-2003, 06:17 PM	#178
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	Why not. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] What was the name for the Hither Shores, and where were they? __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

06-24-2003, 06:35 PM	#179
Beren87 Master of the Secret Fire Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Between fire and ice, death and life Posts: 2,241	The Hither Shores is another name for Middle-Earth.

06-24-2003, 07:29 PM	#180
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	I'm looking for something a bit more specific. __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

06-24-2003, 07:34 PM	#181
Beren87 Master of the Secret Fire Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Between fire and ice, death and life Posts: 2,241	Well, they're Eldarin names.

06-25-2003, 07:53 PM	#182
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	The "Hither Shores" is used to refer to a more specific area of Middle Earth ... __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

06-25-2003, 08:14 PM	#183
elven maiden Earwen Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A world that never was and never will be Posts: 1,300	Neverast? __________________ We pillage and plunder, we rifle and loot, Drink up me hearties, Yo Ho. the looniest site in the world!!!

06-25-2003, 08:16 PM	#184
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	Nevrast is the name that I am looking for, but where were they? __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

06-25-2003, 08:19 PM	#185
Beren87 Master of the Secret Fire Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Between fire and ice, death and life Posts: 2,241	As in the song of Earendil, the "Hither Shores" is referring to all of ME. Maybe specifically that where mortals are, but that could be said to be anywhere. It's used once in the tale of Numenor, but with more bearing placed on the actualy meaning of the word "hither" than anything else. Ah, I bet you do mean specifically where mortals were don't you?

06-26-2003, 06:41 AM	#186
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	Nevrast means Hither Shores. So I am looking for the location of Nevrast for the final part of the answer. __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

06-26-2003, 11:36 AM	#187
elven maiden Earwen Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A world that never was and never will be Posts: 1,300	northwestern coast of Beleriand? __________________ We pillage and plunder, we rifle and loot, Drink up me hearties, Yo Ho. the looniest site in the world!!!

06-26-2003, 02:52 PM	#188
Beren87 Master of the Secret Fire Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Between fire and ice, death and life Posts: 2,241	Wait wait, Nevrast is the "hither shore". That means something totally different from the "Hither Shores". The Hither shores is a term referring to all of ME, but specifically where men inhabit.

06-26-2003, 06:59 PM	#189
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	Hmm, having checked the index to my copy of the Silmarillion, I see that you are right, Beren. Just goes to show that you can't always rely on the ol' Complete Tolkien Companion. [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img] First time it's let me down, though. [img]smilies/frown.gif[/img] But, Earwen gave both answers that I was looking for, so it's your turn next, O elf maid. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

06-26-2003, 07:01 PM	#190
elven maiden Earwen Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A world that never was and never will be Posts: 1,300	Quick and easy. Give me four names for Aragorn? __________________ We pillage and plunder, we rifle and loot, Drink up me hearties, Yo Ho. the looniest site in the world!!!

06-26-2003, 07:13 PM	#191
Beren87 Master of the Secret Fire Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Between fire and ice, death and life Posts: 2,241	Ellesar and Elfstone (by Galadriel and people of Gondor) Strider (in Bree) Longshanks (by Sam) Wingfoot (by Eomer)

06-26-2003, 10:35 PM	#192
elven maiden Earwen Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A world that never was and never will be Posts: 1,300	correct [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] __________________ We pillage and plunder, we rifle and loot, Drink up me hearties, Yo Ho. the looniest site in the world!!!

06-27-2003, 03:38 PM	#193
Beren87 Master of the Secret Fire Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Between fire and ice, death and life Posts: 2,241	What was the "red-hill-land"?

06-28-2003, 06:46 PM	#194
Telchar Stonehearted Dwarf Smith Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Posts: 2,247	Just as a side note: Sam didn't name Aragorn 'Longshanks'... Bill Ferny did __________________ Anar Kaluva Tielyanna.

07-03-2003, 12:32 PM	#195
Sophia the Thunder Mistress Scent of Simbelmynë Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Aboard Highwind, bound for Traverse Town Posts: 1,780	Ooh, Beren's getting his movies and his books mixed up! (happens to the best of us, I should know [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img]) Anyway, red-hill-land... I will venture a guess: caran- red dol- hill Cardolan- red-hill-land? Sophia __________________ The seasons fall like silver swords, the years rush ever onward; and soon I sail, to leave this world, these lands where I have wander'd. O Elbereth! O Queen who dwells beyond the Western Seas, spare me yet a little time 'ere white ships come for me!