Proverbs, Adages, Aphorisms, Saws, Wise Sayings & Clichés - Page 5 - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Guinevere · 08-21-2003, 02:12 PM

Thank you, Evisse. The amount of proverbs in Tolkiens books is astonishing ! (I've started collecting them...) Most of them he made up himself, I guess, but they sure sound like genuine old sayings.

Quote:

Generous deed should not be checked by cold counsel.

Evisse the Blue · 08-21-2003, 02:54 PM

Gandalf to Pippin after he swore the oath to Denethor.

Guinevere · 08-21-2003, 04:04 PM

correct! Your turn again, Evisse [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] !

Evisse the Blue · 08-22-2003, 05:36 AM

Okay, I worked hard to get his one [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Quote:

"There's no accounting for East or West."

Guinevere · 08-27-2003, 02:17 PM

Hm, so far, I've no idea where to look for that one! [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img]

Evisse the Blue · 08-29-2003, 12:20 PM

The full quote is

Quote:

There's no accounting for East or West, as we say in Bree, meaning the Rangers and the Shire-folk, begging your pardon.

This should put you o the right track. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

Mithisilien · 09-01-2003, 02:16 PM

Would that be Barliman Butterbur?

Evisse the Blue · 09-01-2003, 03:41 PM

Yes. Would you mind elaborating on the circumstances?
Then you're free to post a new one.

Mithisilien · 09-01-2003, 04:31 PM

Hahaha, I could be a jerk and say "In The Prancing Pony".... nah. It was part of his response to Frodo about who and what Strider was. Right after he said "Goes about at a great pace on his long shanks; though he don't tell nobody what cause he has to hurry".

[ September 01, 2003: Message edited by: Mithisilien ]

Mithisilien · 09-01-2003, 06:36 PM

ok, I swear I had put the next one in my last response....whatever.

Quote:

Let us hope that no evil has yet come here

Guinevere · 09-04-2003, 01:21 PM

Aragorn to the Fellowship when they are landing at Parth Galen (below Amon Hen)
(But that's not a proverb??) [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

Mithisilien · 09-04-2003, 04:32 PM

was it supposed to be? ahhhhh, I'm sorry. *hangs head* oh well. You got it! Even if the question was wrong...*twitch* ok.

Guinevere · 09-05-2003, 02:59 AM

Never mind, Mithisilien! [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] But look at the title of the thread... [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

Quote:

Oft evil will shall evil mar.

Mithisilien · 09-05-2003, 01:58 PM

I have no idea why it didn't register. I tend to miss stuff like that... [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img]

Guinevere · 09-12-2003, 12:54 PM

Does no one recognize that proverb? [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img] To give you a hint: it's from TTT . [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

Mariska Greenleaf · 09-12-2003, 01:18 PM

Was it Theoden?

Guinevere · 09-12-2003, 02:32 PM

Yes, [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] but to whom and where?

Mariska Greenleaf · 09-29-2003, 02:42 AM

To Aragorn and Gandalf, about the Palantir in Isengard.

What do you mean, it took me a long time to find it??? [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img]

Okay, I just forgot, I'm sorry... [img]smilies/frown.gif[/img]

Guinevere · 09-29-2003, 04:46 AM

Right you are, Mariska! [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] Please proceed!

Mariska Greenleaf · 09-29-2003, 01:51 PM

Ok thanks!
I really hope this next one counts as a proverb, adage, aphorism, saw, wise saying or cliché or whatever...

Quote:

The board is set, and the pieces are moving

I like it, who said this? [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

Guinevere · 09-29-2003, 02:40 PM

Ah, that is Gandalf to Pippin in Minas Tirith! And afterwards he adds "One piece I greatly desire to find is Faramir."

Mariska Greenleaf · 09-30-2003, 04:00 AM

That's it, of course [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

[ September 30, 2003: Message edited by: Mariska Greenleaf ]

Guinevere · 09-30-2003, 12:48 PM

Quote:

Through darkness one may come to the light.

Guinevere · 10-08-2003, 01:43 PM

Do you need a hint? [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] It's from U.T.

Mariska Greenleaf · 10-20-2003, 06:53 AM

Thanks for the hint!

That was Gelmir talking to Tuor.

[ October 20, 2003: Message edited by: Mariska Greenleaf ]

Guinevere · 10-20-2003, 02:01 PM

It certainly was, Mariska! [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] Please continue.
(I feared already no one would ever come and look at this thread...)

Mariska Greenleaf · 11-07-2003, 06:05 AM

It took me some time to come up with a new one, but, at last here it is...

Quote:

help oft shall come from the hands of the weak when the Wise falter.

[ November 07, 2003: Message edited by: Mariska Greenleaf ]

Guinevere · 11-07-2003, 03:54 PM

This starts with "Many are the strange chances of the world..." and is said by Mithrandir to Elrond at the first White Council (In the Silm.)

Mariska Greenleaf · 11-10-2003, 04:08 AM

Very good!
Tour turn!

Guinevere · 11-10-2003, 01:47 PM

Thank you! [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Quote:

Great heart will not be denied.

Mariska Greenleaf · 11-12-2003, 03:49 AM

Theoden talking to Merry...

Quote:

Grieve not! It is forgiven. Great heart will not be denied.

Guinevere · 11-12-2003, 01:19 PM

That's it! [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Mariska Greenleaf · 11-13-2003, 04:10 AM

Quote:

Do as your heart calls.

Guinevere · 11-20-2003, 08:09 AM

That one took quite a lot of searching! First I thought it was Ulmo to Tuor, but he says "Do as your heart and valour lead thee."
Then I found Turin saying to Niniel:" Do as your heart bids you."

But finally I found the right one [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]: "Do as your heart calls, onya." said Meneldur to Aldarion before he went on his first voyage. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Mariska Greenleaf · 11-20-2003, 08:24 AM

good job!
All yours. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

Guinevere · 11-20-2003, 08:42 AM

Thank you Mariska. Ha, now I must be careful not to use one of the proverbs from Esty's new game [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img](btw I have been contributing to that one)
Hmmm how about:

Quote:

Few can foresee whither their road will lead them, till they come to its end.

Guinevere · 11-27-2003, 03:06 AM

Do you need a hint? It's in TTT.

Mariska Greenleaf · 12-04-2003, 06:43 AM

That was Legolas talking to Aragorn and Gimli.

Guinevere · 12-04-2003, 09:23 AM

Yes! Well done, Mariska! [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]
(I wonder why we two are the only ones on this thread?? [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img] )

Mariska Greenleaf · 12-04-2003, 09:29 AM

Yes, it is indeed strange, because this is a wonderful topic isn't it?

Oh well, I got a new one for you:

Quote:

There are locked doors and closed windows in your mind, and dark rooms behind them.

It's not really a wise saying, more of a metafor I guess. I hope that's allright.

08-21-2003, 02:54 PM	#162
Evisse the Blue Brightness of a Blade Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: wherever I may roam Posts: 2,685	Gandalf to Pippin after he swore the oath to Denethor. __________________ And no one was ill, and everyone was pleased, except those who had to mow the grass.

08-21-2003, 04:04 PM	#163
Guinevere Banshee of Camelot Join Date: May 2002 Location: Switzerland Posts: 5,830	correct! Your turn again, Evisse [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] ! __________________ Yes! "wish-fulfilment dreams" we spin to cheat our timid hearts, and ugly Fact defeat!

08-27-2003, 02:17 PM	#165
Guinevere Banshee of Camelot Join Date: May 2002 Location: Switzerland Posts: 5,830	Hm, so far, I've no idea where to look for that one! [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img] __________________ Yes! "wish-fulfilment dreams" we spin to cheat our timid hearts, and ugly Fact defeat!

09-01-2003, 02:16 PM	#167
Mithisilien Haunting Spirit Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Rivendell Posts: 87	Would that be Barliman Butterbur? __________________ Sure on this shining night I weep for wonder of shadows on the stars

09-01-2003, 03:41 PM	#168
Evisse the Blue Brightness of a Blade Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: wherever I may roam Posts: 2,685	Yes. Would you mind elaborating on the circumstances? Then you're free to post a new one. __________________ And no one was ill, and everyone was pleased, except those who had to mow the grass.

09-01-2003, 04:31 PM	#169
Mithisilien Haunting Spirit Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Rivendell Posts: 87	Hahaha, I could be a jerk and say "In The Prancing Pony".... nah. It was part of his response to Frodo about who and what Strider was. Right after he said "Goes about at a great pace on his long shanks; though he don't tell nobody what cause he has to hurry". [ September 01, 2003: Message edited by: Mithisilien ] __________________ Sure on this shining night I weep for wonder of shadows on the stars

09-04-2003, 01:21 PM	#171
Guinevere Banshee of Camelot Join Date: May 2002 Location: Switzerland Posts: 5,830	Aragorn to the Fellowship when they are landing at Parth Galen (below Amon Hen) (But that's not a proverb??) [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] __________________ Yes! "wish-fulfilment dreams" we spin to cheat our timid hearts, and ugly Fact defeat!

09-04-2003, 04:32 PM	#172
Mithisilien Haunting Spirit Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Rivendell Posts: 87	was it supposed to be? ahhhhh, I'm sorry. hangs head oh well. You got it! Even if the question was wrong...twitch ok. __________________ Sure on this shining night I weep for wonder of shadows on the stars

09-05-2003, 01:58 PM	#174
Mithisilien Haunting Spirit Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Rivendell Posts: 87	I have no idea why it didn't register. I tend to miss stuff like that... [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img] __________________ Sure on this shining night I weep for wonder of shadows on the stars

09-12-2003, 12:54 PM	#175
Guinevere Banshee of Camelot Join Date: May 2002 Location: Switzerland Posts: 5,830	Does no one recognize that proverb? [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img] To give you a hint: it's from TTT . [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] __________________ Yes! "wish-fulfilment dreams" we spin to cheat our timid hearts, and ugly Fact defeat!

09-12-2003, 01:18 PM	#176
Mariska Greenleaf Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Dublin Posts: 1,036	Was it Theoden? __________________ I hear and I forget. I see and I remember. I do and I understand.- Confucius.

09-12-2003, 02:32 PM	#177
Guinevere Banshee of Camelot Join Date: May 2002 Location: Switzerland Posts: 5,830	Yes, [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] but to whom and where? __________________ Yes! "wish-fulfilment dreams" we spin to cheat our timid hearts, and ugly Fact defeat!

09-29-2003, 02:42 AM	#178
Mariska Greenleaf Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Dublin Posts: 1,036	To Aragorn and Gandalf, about the Palantir in Isengard. What do you mean, it took me a long time to find it??? [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img] Okay, I just forgot, I'm sorry... [img]smilies/frown.gif[/img] __________________ I hear and I forget. I see and I remember. I do and I understand.- Confucius.

09-29-2003, 04:46 AM	#179
Guinevere Banshee of Camelot Join Date: May 2002 Location: Switzerland Posts: 5,830	Right you are, Mariska! [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] Please proceed! __________________ Yes! "wish-fulfilment dreams" we spin to cheat our timid hearts, and ugly Fact defeat!

09-29-2003, 02:40 PM	#181
Guinevere Banshee of Camelot Join Date: May 2002 Location: Switzerland Posts: 5,830	Ah, that is Gandalf to Pippin in Minas Tirith! And afterwards he adds "One piece I greatly desire to find is Faramir." __________________ Yes! "wish-fulfilment dreams" we spin to cheat our timid hearts, and ugly Fact defeat!

09-30-2003, 04:00 AM	#182
Mariska Greenleaf Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Dublin Posts: 1,036	That's it, of course [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] [ September 30, 2003: Message edited by: Mariska Greenleaf ] __________________ I hear and I forget. I see and I remember. I do and I understand.- Confucius.

10-08-2003, 01:43 PM	#184
Guinevere Banshee of Camelot Join Date: May 2002 Location: Switzerland Posts: 5,830	Do you need a hint? [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] It's from U.T. __________________ Yes! "wish-fulfilment dreams" we spin to cheat our timid hearts, and ugly Fact defeat!

10-20-2003, 06:53 AM	#185
Mariska Greenleaf Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Dublin Posts: 1,036	Thanks for the hint! That was Gelmir talking to Tuor. [ October 20, 2003: Message edited by: Mariska Greenleaf ] __________________ I hear and I forget. I see and I remember. I do and I understand.- Confucius.

10-20-2003, 02:01 PM	#186
Guinevere Banshee of Camelot Join Date: May 2002 Location: Switzerland Posts: 5,830	It certainly was, Mariska! [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] Please continue. (I feared already no one would ever come and look at this thread...) __________________ Yes! "wish-fulfilment dreams" we spin to cheat our timid hearts, and ugly Fact defeat!

11-07-2003, 03:54 PM	#188
Guinevere Banshee of Camelot Join Date: May 2002 Location: Switzerland Posts: 5,830	This starts with "Many are the strange chances of the world..." and is said by Mithrandir to Elrond at the first White Council (In the Silm.) __________________ Yes! "wish-fulfilment dreams" we spin to cheat our timid hearts, and ugly Fact defeat!

11-10-2003, 04:08 AM	#189
Mariska Greenleaf Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Dublin Posts: 1,036	Very good! Tour turn! __________________ I hear and I forget. I see and I remember. I do and I understand.- Confucius.

11-12-2003, 01:19 PM	#192
Guinevere Banshee of Camelot Join Date: May 2002 Location: Switzerland Posts: 5,830	That's it! [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] __________________ Yes! "wish-fulfilment dreams" we spin to cheat our timid hearts, and ugly Fact defeat!

11-20-2003, 08:09 AM	#194
Guinevere Banshee of Camelot Join Date: May 2002 Location: Switzerland Posts: 5,830	That one took quite a lot of searching! First I thought it was Ulmo to Tuor, but he says "Do as your heart and valour lead thee." Then I found Turin saying to Niniel:" Do as your heart bids you." But finally I found the right one [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]: "Do as your heart calls, onya." said Meneldur to Aldarion before he went on his first voyage. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] __________________ Yes! "wish-fulfilment dreams" we spin to cheat our timid hearts, and ugly Fact defeat!

11-20-2003, 08:24 AM	#195
Mariska Greenleaf Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Dublin Posts: 1,036	good job! All yours. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] __________________ I hear and I forget. I see and I remember. I do and I understand.- Confucius.

11-27-2003, 03:06 AM	#197
Guinevere Banshee of Camelot Join Date: May 2002 Location: Switzerland Posts: 5,830	Do you need a hint? It's in TTT. __________________ Yes! "wish-fulfilment dreams" we spin to cheat our timid hearts, and ugly Fact defeat!

12-04-2003, 06:43 AM	#198
Mariska Greenleaf Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Dublin Posts: 1,036	That was Legolas talking to Aragorn and Gimli. __________________ I hear and I forget. I see and I remember. I do and I understand.- Confucius.

12-04-2003, 09:23 AM	#199
Guinevere Banshee of Camelot Join Date: May 2002 Location: Switzerland Posts: 5,830	Yes! Well done, Mariska! [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] (I wonder why we two are the only ones on this thread?? [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img] ) __________________ Yes! "wish-fulfilment dreams" we spin to cheat our timid hearts, and ugly Fact defeat!