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The Might · 12-18-2008, 02:41 AM

Ah, very well. Now a question on objects in M-e:

1. Mouth of Sauron mocked the Elessar.
2. Sam saw himself running up a winding stair in Galadriel's Mirror.
3. The Sceptre of Annuminas was made of mithril.

Andsigil · 12-18-2008, 09:27 AM

#3 is false. It was made of silver.

The Might · 12-18-2008, 03:45 PM

True you are.

Andsigil · 12-19-2008, 12:29 PM

1. Drogo was discussed at The Ivy Bush.

2. Adelard was bequeathed a mirror.

3. Bert likes burrahobbit pies.

The Might · 12-19-2008, 06:56 PM

2 is false, I believe that Adelard, the eternal borrower of umbrellas, was given an umbrella of his OWN.

Andsigil · 12-20-2008, 04:22 AM

You are correct!

The Might · 12-25-2008, 10:05 AM

Ok, then a new one:

1. Imloth Melui was known for its lillies.
2. White-socks was a pony.
3. 6 Astron was a holiday in the Shire in the Fourth Age.

Btw, I tried to find hard ones here.

Thinlómien · 12-25-2008, 01:57 PM

1 is wrong. It was known for its roses.

The Might · 12-25-2008, 09:16 PM

BAH! And I thought it would last for at least a day...

Strong the Force in you is!

Thinlómien · 12-29-2008, 06:12 AM

Here comes some Entish stuff...

1. Rohirrim had heard of the Ents.
2. Entmoot was held once in a century.
3. Birds were cruel to Bregalad's trees.

The Might · 12-29-2008, 11:24 AM

I believe Entmoots were not necessarily held once a century.

Thinlómien · 01-06-2009, 12:27 PM

Exactly, that's it.

Take the thread, please. (And my apologies for taking time. I wasn't around because I had an... attention-demanding guest for a week, so to speak.

)

The Might · 01-06-2009, 03:00 PM

Ah, Sackville-Bagginses came to visit, eh?

Anyways, let me see, a marshy question:

1. The Hobbits of the Marish were predominantly of Stoor descent.
2. The Riders of Rohan could not enter the Fenmarch.
3. Rushock Bog was located along the Water.

Pitchwife · 01-31-2009, 06:41 PM

1. According to LotR, Prologue:

Quote:

The habit of building farmhouses and barns was said to have begun among the inhabitants of the Marish down by the Brandywine. The Hobbits of that quarter, the Eastfarthing, were rather large and heavy-legged, and they wore dwarf-boots in muddy weather. But they were well known to be Stoors in a large part of their blood [...]

2. LotR V,3, The Muster of Rohan:

Quote:

east and onward rode the Eorlingas
through Folde and Fenmarch and the Firienwood

and:

Quote:

And then on again through the Folde; and through the Fenmarch[...]

3. According to the Shire map, Rushock Bog was located along the Water (where it divides into two arms, north-west of Hobbiton).

So 2 is obviously untrue!

Pitchwife · 02-13-2009, 04:09 PM

Might, are you still with us?

The Might · 05-30-2009, 09:50 AM

I am now, and of course, do carry on!

Hope it'll be a hard one.

Pitchwife · 05-30-2009, 04:06 PM

Well, I'll try my very best...

Casualties

1. Faramir was slain in battle with the Wainriders.
2. Théodred was slain in the second battle of the Fords of Isen.
3. Grimbold was slain in the battle on the Pelennor Fields.

Eönwë · 06-01-2009, 02:56 PM

I believe 'tis the first one.

Pitchwife · 06-02-2009, 09:31 AM

No, sorry, Eonwe, 1. is not a lie. That one was a red herring.

The Might · 06-02-2009, 10:01 AM

It sure was, since there were two Faramirs. The first one, meant here, was indeed mortally wounded by Wainriders.
And Grimbold did indeed die at the Battle of the Pelennor Fields.
However, Theodred died at the First, not the Second Battle. So that's the lie.

Eönwë · 06-02-2009, 10:09 AM

I knew it seemed too easy...

Pitchwife · 06-02-2009, 10:21 AM

Might, I knew you would! Correct, of course. Go ahead!
And Eonwe, the other Faramir was the younger son of King Ondoher of Gondor, about a millennium or so before Boromir's little brother (but a little brother as well). Sorry for being mean.

The Might · 06-07-2009, 04:35 PM

Ok, here comes a new one:

Rog was considered strongest of the Noldor.
The term for a wose in Rohan was róg.
Rodyn is the only Sindarin name for the last day of the week.

Btw, tried to make it hard and with a bit of an alliteration.

Pitchwife · 06-13-2009, 05:42 AM

OK, if nobody else is interested...

Rog was the strongest of the Noldor in the BoLT Fall of Gondolin - true.
róg = wose in the true language of Rohan, according to UT, The Drúedain - true.
However, Rodyn (the weekday dedicated to the Valar) was also called Orbelain in Sindarin. This one's a lie.

(Alliteration appreciated!

)

The Might · 06-15-2009, 12:56 PM

Correct answer is also appreciated!

Pitchwife · 06-23-2009, 06:59 PM

Sorry to keep you waiting, but I've been busy moving and had no internet access for the last week or so. Have a little patience, it's cooking and will soon be served.
(If anybody has something up his/her sleeve and is dying to post it, feel free!)

Pitchwife · 06-27-2009, 03:36 PM

OK, here it comes (theme inspired by current RL events):

1. The eastern tip of the island on which the Eldar were ferried from Middle-Earth to Valinor broke off and became the Isle of Balar.
2. The Edain moved to Númenor on Elvish ships steered by sailors from Cirdan's people.
3. Before the Éothéod moved to Calenardhon, their capital was at the confluence of the two tributary streams of the river Greylin.

Andsigil · 06-28-2009, 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pitchwife

OK, here it comes (theme inspired by current RL events):

1. The eastern tip of the island on which the Eldar were ferried from Middle-Earth to Valinor broke off and became the Isle of Balar.
2. The Edain moved to Númenor on Elvish ships steered by sailors from Cirdan's people.
3. Before the Éothéod moved to Calenardhon, their capital was at the confluence of the two tributary streams of the river Greylin.

1 is definitely true. It used to be Tol Eressea

2 is true (Unfinished Tales?)

3 is false. The Éothéod's original capital (later called Framsburg) was in between the Greylin and the Langwell, which were both part of Anduin.

Pitchwife · 06-28-2009, 03:22 PM

Spot on, Andsigil! Thread is yours!
(And yes, 2. is from UT, A Description of Númenor)

Andsigil · 06-29-2009, 04:05 PM

Okay, let's see...

1) Bifur's kinsman wore a cloak of celadon when he met Bilbo.

2) Groin's son accompanied Thorin to meet Beorn.

3) Fundin's son was the first to have his cell unlocked in Mirkwood.

Andsigil · 07-08-2009, 03:26 PM

*bump*

Anyone?

Hakon · 08-17-2009, 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andsigil

Okay, let's see...

1) Bifur's kinsman wore a cloak of celadon when he met Bilbo.

2) Groin's son accompanied Thorin to meet Beorn.

3) Fundin's son was the first to have his cell unlocked in Mirkwood.

I just found this thread. Seems like a fun game.

The lie is is number two.

crazzycat · 10-13-2009, 12:50 AM

maybe the ie is number three?

03-14-2010, 05:29 PM

Actually, you are right, although the reason is wrong, I think. Eorl the Young (My namesake) is called young, not because he died young, but because he kept his youthful vitality and bright-golden hair (instead of turning white) to the very end of his days.

Corsair_Caruso · 08-15-2014, 09:11 AM

So, on other forums I've been in, posting on threads that have been dead for extended periods is somewhat frowned upon, but I've seen no predilection against it here... so I'm going to go ahead. Please let me know I should avoid this in the future.

1) Tarannon Falastur was the first king of Gondor to die without children.

2) The Steward Boromir had the longest rule of the Ruling Stewards.

3) Arvedui was not yet king of Arthedain when he petitioned to the Council of Gondor for the crown.

Mithalwen · 08-15-2014, 09:21 AM

On the whole it is preferred here that you do ressurect old threads rather than restart near idrentical so feel free.

Corsair_Caruso · 08-20-2014, 03:07 PM

No takers?

Galadriel55 · 08-20-2014, 05:05 PM

I'm way too rusty, and I never knew these geneology detailes that well in the first place. I will take a blind stab at #2, but without researching the facts I can't actually give a proper answer.

Corsair_Caruso · 08-20-2014, 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Galadriel55

I'm way too rusty, and I never knew these geneology detailes that well in the first place. I will take a blind stab at #2, but without researching the facts I can't actually give a proper answer.

Huzzah! You're right! The Steward Boromir actually ruled for only 12 years, the shortest rule of any of the Stewards, and died especially young due to complications from a Morgul-wound.

Galadriel55 · 08-21-2014, 10:01 AM

Oh wow, lucky guess!

Well, here's a fairly easy one:

1) When looking in the mirror of Galadriel, Frodo saw only one sunset.
2) Pippin saw only one scene in the Palantir before Sauron's "voice" came.
3) Four Rangers of Ithilien came simultaneously to Frodo and Sam when they were found by the smoke of their fire and taken to stay with Faramir.

EDIT: PS: Caruso, are you familiar with The Silmarillion and Children of Hurin? I was gonna post a question about the First Age, but I realized that not everybody has read these books, and I wanted it to be fair.

12-18-2008, 02:41 AM	#161
The Might Guard of the Citadel Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oxon Posts: 2,205	Ah, very well. Now a question on objects in M-e: 1. Mouth of Sauron mocked the Elessar. 2. Sam saw himself running up a winding stair in Galadriel's Mirror. 3. The Sceptre of Annuminas was made of mithril. __________________ “The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.” Delos B. McKown

12-18-2008, 09:27 AM	#162
Andsigil Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: The Deepest Forges of Ered Luin Posts: 733	#3 is false. It was made of silver. __________________ Even as fog continues to lie in the valleys, so does ancient sin cling to the low places, the depression in the world consciousness.

12-18-2008, 03:45 PM	#163
The Might Guard of the Citadel Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oxon Posts: 2,205	True you are. __________________ “The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.” Delos B. McKown

12-19-2008, 12:29 PM	#164
Andsigil Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: The Deepest Forges of Ered Luin Posts: 733	1. Drogo was discussed at The Ivy Bush. 2. Adelard was bequeathed a mirror. 3. Bert likes burrahobbit pies. __________________ Even as fog continues to lie in the valleys, so does ancient sin cling to the low places, the depression in the world consciousness.

12-19-2008, 06:56 PM	#165
The Might Guard of the Citadel Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oxon Posts: 2,205	2 is false, I believe that Adelard, the eternal borrower of umbrellas, was given an umbrella of his OWN. __________________ “The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.” Delos B. McKown

12-20-2008, 04:22 AM	#166
Andsigil Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: The Deepest Forges of Ered Luin Posts: 733	You are correct! __________________ Even as fog continues to lie in the valleys, so does ancient sin cling to the low places, the depression in the world consciousness.

12-25-2008, 10:05 AM	#167
The Might Guard of the Citadel Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oxon Posts: 2,205	Ok, then a new one: 1. Imloth Melui was known for its lillies. 2. White-socks was a pony. 3. 6 Astron was a holiday in the Shire in the Fourth Age. Btw, I tried to find hard ones here. __________________ “The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.” Delos B. McKown

12-25-2008, 01:57 PM	#168
Thinlómien Shady She-Penguin Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: In a far land beyond the Sea Posts: 8,093	1 is wrong. It was known for its roses. __________________ Like the stars chase the sun, over the glowing hill I will conquer Blood is running deep, some things never sleep Double Fenris

12-25-2008, 09:16 PM	#169
The Might Guard of the Citadel Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oxon Posts: 2,205	BAH! And I thought it would last for at least a day... Strong the Force in you is! __________________ “The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.” Delos B. McKown

12-29-2008, 06:12 AM	#170
Thinlómien Shady She-Penguin Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: In a far land beyond the Sea Posts: 8,093	Here comes some Entish stuff... 1. Rohirrim had heard of the Ents. 2. Entmoot was held once in a century. 3. Birds were cruel to Bregalad's trees. __________________ Like the stars chase the sun, over the glowing hill I will conquer Blood is running deep, some things never sleep Double Fenris

12-29-2008, 11:24 AM	#171
The Might Guard of the Citadel Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oxon Posts: 2,205	I believe Entmoots were not necessarily held once a century. __________________ “The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.” Delos B. McKown

01-06-2009, 12:27 PM	#172
Thinlómien Shady She-Penguin Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: In a far land beyond the Sea Posts: 8,093	Exactly, that's it. Take the thread, please. (And my apologies for taking time. I wasn't around because I had an... attention-demanding guest for a week, so to speak. ) __________________ Like the stars chase the sun, over the glowing hill I will conquer Blood is running deep, some things never sleep Double Fenris

01-06-2009, 03:00 PM	#173
The Might Guard of the Citadel Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oxon Posts: 2,205	Ah, Sackville-Bagginses came to visit, eh? Anyways, let me see, a marshy question: 1. The Hobbits of the Marish were predominantly of Stoor descent. 2. The Riders of Rohan could not enter the Fenmarch. 3. Rushock Bog was located along the Water. __________________ “The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.” Delos B. McKown

02-13-2009, 04:09 PM	#175
Pitchwife Wight of the Old Forest Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Unattended on the railway station, in the litter at the dancehall Posts: 3,329	Might, are you still with us? __________________ Und aus dem Erebos kamen viele seelen herauf der abgeschiedenen toten.- Homer, Odyssey, Canto XI

05-30-2009, 09:50 AM	#176
The Might Guard of the Citadel Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oxon Posts: 2,205	I am now, and of course, do carry on! Hope it'll be a hard one. __________________ “The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.” Delos B. McKown

05-30-2009, 04:06 PM	#177
Pitchwife Wight of the Old Forest Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Unattended on the railway station, in the litter at the dancehall Posts: 3,329	Well, I'll try my very best... Casualties 1. Faramir was slain in battle with the Wainriders. 2. Théodred was slain in the second battle of the Fords of Isen. 3. Grimbold was slain in the battle on the Pelennor Fields. __________________ Und aus dem Erebos kamen viele seelen herauf der abgeschiedenen toten.- Homer, Odyssey, Canto XI

06-01-2009, 02:56 PM	#178
Eönwë Flame Imperishable Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Right here Posts: 3,928	I believe 'tis the first one. __________________ Welcome to the Barrow Do-owns Forum / Such a lovely place

06-02-2009, 09:31 AM	#179
Pitchwife Wight of the Old Forest Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Unattended on the railway station, in the litter at the dancehall Posts: 3,329	No, sorry, Eonwe, 1. is not a lie. That one was a red herring. __________________ Und aus dem Erebos kamen viele seelen herauf der abgeschiedenen toten.- Homer, Odyssey, Canto XI

06-02-2009, 10:01 AM	#180
The Might Guard of the Citadel Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oxon Posts: 2,205	It sure was, since there were two Faramirs. The first one, meant here, was indeed mortally wounded by Wainriders. And Grimbold did indeed die at the Battle of the Pelennor Fields. However, Theodred died at the First, not the Second Battle. So that's the lie. __________________ “The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.” Delos B. McKown

06-02-2009, 10:09 AM	#181
Eönwë Flame Imperishable Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Right here Posts: 3,928	I knew it seemed too easy... __________________ Welcome to the Barrow Do-owns Forum / Such a lovely place

06-02-2009, 10:21 AM	#182
Pitchwife Wight of the Old Forest Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Unattended on the railway station, in the litter at the dancehall Posts: 3,329	Might, I knew you would! Correct, of course. Go ahead! And Eonwe, the other Faramir was the younger son of King Ondoher of Gondor, about a millennium or so before Boromir's little brother (but a little brother as well). Sorry for being mean. __________________ Und aus dem Erebos kamen viele seelen herauf der abgeschiedenen toten.- Homer, Odyssey, Canto XI

06-07-2009, 04:35 PM	#183
The Might Guard of the Citadel Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oxon Posts: 2,205	Ok, here comes a new one: Rog was considered strongest of the Noldor. The term for a wose in Rohan was róg. Rodyn is the only Sindarin name for the last day of the week. Btw, tried to make it hard and with a bit of an alliteration. __________________ “The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.” Delos B. McKown

06-13-2009, 05:42 AM	#184
Pitchwife Wight of the Old Forest Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Unattended on the railway station, in the litter at the dancehall Posts: 3,329	OK, if nobody else is interested... Rog was the strongest of the Noldor in the BoLT Fall of Gondolin - true. róg = wose in the true language of Rohan, according to UT, The Drúedain - true. However, Rodyn (the weekday dedicated to the Valar) was also called Orbelain in Sindarin. This one's a lie. (Alliteration appreciated!) __________________ Und aus dem Erebos kamen viele seelen herauf der abgeschiedenen toten.- Homer, Odyssey, Canto XI

06-15-2009, 12:56 PM	#185
The Might Guard of the Citadel Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oxon Posts: 2,205	Correct answer is also appreciated! __________________ “The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.” Delos B. McKown

06-23-2009, 06:59 PM	#186
Pitchwife Wight of the Old Forest Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Unattended on the railway station, in the litter at the dancehall Posts: 3,329	Sorry to keep you waiting, but I've been busy moving and had no internet access for the last week or so. Have a little patience, it's cooking and will soon be served. (If anybody has something up his/her sleeve and is dying to post it, feel free!) __________________ Und aus dem Erebos kamen viele seelen herauf der abgeschiedenen toten.- Homer, Odyssey, Canto XI

06-27-2009, 03:36 PM	#187
Pitchwife Wight of the Old Forest Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Unattended on the railway station, in the litter at the dancehall Posts: 3,329	OK, here it comes (theme inspired by current RL events): 1. The eastern tip of the island on which the Eldar were ferried from Middle-Earth to Valinor broke off and became the Isle of Balar. 2. The Edain moved to Númenor on Elvish ships steered by sailors from Cirdan's people. 3. Before the Éothéod moved to Calenardhon, their capital was at the confluence of the two tributary streams of the river Greylin. __________________ Und aus dem Erebos kamen viele seelen herauf der abgeschiedenen toten.- Homer, Odyssey, Canto XI

06-28-2009, 03:22 PM	#189
Pitchwife Wight of the Old Forest Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Unattended on the railway station, in the litter at the dancehall Posts: 3,329	Spot on, Andsigil! Thread is yours! (And yes, 2. is from UT, A Description of Númenor) __________________ Und aus dem Erebos kamen viele seelen herauf der abgeschiedenen toten.- Homer, Odyssey, Canto XI

06-29-2009, 04:05 PM	#190
Andsigil Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: The Deepest Forges of Ered Luin Posts: 733	Okay, let's see... 1) Bifur's kinsman wore a cloak of celadon when he met Bilbo. 2) Groin's son accompanied Thorin to meet Beorn. 3) Fundin's son was the first to have his cell unlocked in Mirkwood. __________________ Even as fog continues to lie in the valleys, so does ancient sin cling to the low places, the depression in the world consciousness.

07-08-2009, 03:26 PM	#191
Andsigil Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: The Deepest Forges of Ered Luin Posts: 733	bump Anyone? __________________ Even as fog continues to lie in the valleys, so does ancient sin cling to the low places, the depression in the world consciousness.

10-13-2009, 12:50 AM	#193
crazzycat Newly Deceased Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2	maybe the ie is number three? __________________ ...sex games without love is an empty experience, but as empty experiences go, it's one of the best...

03-14-2010, 05:29 PM	#194
leebingate Guest Posts: n/a	Actually, you are right, although the reason is wrong, I think. Eorl the Young (My namesake) is called young, not because he died young, but because he kept his youthful vitality and bright-golden hair (instead of turning white) to the very end of his days.

08-15-2014, 09:11 AM	#195
Corsair_Caruso Haunting Spirit Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 67	I hope I'm not performing thread necromancy here... So, on other forums I've been in, posting on threads that have been dead for extended periods is somewhat frowned upon, but I've seen no predilection against it here... so I'm going to go ahead. Please let me know I should avoid this in the future. 1) Tarannon Falastur was the first king of Gondor to die without children. 2) The Steward Boromir had the longest rule of the Ruling Stewards. 3) Arvedui was not yet king of Arthedain when he petitioned to the Council of Gondor for the crown.

08-15-2014, 09:21 AM	#196
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,455	On the whole it is preferred here that you do ressurect old threads rather than restart near idrentical so feel free. __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

08-20-2014, 03:07 PM	#197
Corsair_Caruso Haunting Spirit Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 67	No takers?

08-20-2014, 05:05 PM	#198
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,381	I'm way too rusty, and I never knew these geneology detailes that well in the first place. I will take a blind stab at #2, but without researching the facts I can't actually give a proper answer. __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera