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Sophia the Thunder Mistress · 05-25-2003, 12:29 PM

Nope, still not what I'm looking for. The first line is a near direct (slightly adapted) quote from the source, and the second line hints at the word itself.

Sophia

Sophia the Thunder Mistress · 05-27-2003, 01:10 PM

*bump* Saucepan? I thought you'd get this in fifteen seconds... [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img] Where all you interpreters of vaguely non-straightforward clues?

**The Saucepan Man** · 05-28-2003, 06:51 AM

Sorry. Not been on much in the last few days. [img]smilies/frown.gif[/img]

It's the Oath-breakers. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

When doom approaches the halls of silent kings: This presumably refers to Aragorn fulfilling the prophecy of Malbeth the Seer and entering the Paths of the Dead to hold the Dead Kings to their oath.

The great waves follow the promised words of old: Breakers (great waves) following oath (promised words of old).

[img]smilies/cool.gif[/img] [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img]

Sophia the Thunder Mistress · 05-28-2003, 07:10 PM

*bows* Thank you! [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] I was beginning to think I'd actually written a difficult question [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img].

[img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] Sophia

**The Saucepan Man** · 05-29-2003, 02:42 PM

Quote:

I was beginning to think I'd actually written a difficult question

Since when did you ever ask any easy ones, Sophia? [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

Who foretold that more would be heading north?

Gil-Galad · 05-29-2003, 04:09 PM

i doubt my anwser, Malbeth or Arvedui

**The Saucepan Man** · 05-30-2003, 07:20 AM

You are correct to doubt your answer, Gil-Galad. [img]smilies/evil.gif[/img] [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

Gil-Galad · 05-30-2003, 08:11 AM

[img]smilies/frown.gif[/img] [img]smilies/frown.gif[/img] [img]smilies/mad.gif[/img] [img]smilies/eek.gif[/img] [img]smilies/frown.gif[/img] [img]smilies/frown.gif[/img] [img]smilies/frown.gif[/img]

Finwe · 05-30-2003, 08:13 AM

Saruman?

Sophia the Thunder Mistress · 05-30-2003, 05:28 PM

Bill Ferny, either him or his Squint eyed companion.

**The Saucepan Man** · 05-30-2003, 06:13 PM

Indeed, it was the squint-eyed southerner that I had in mind. Very well done, Sophia. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Sophia the Thunder Mistress · 05-30-2003, 08:52 PM

Thanks Saucepans [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]. It came to me in a flash... LOL. I'll be back with you as soon as I have time to think of a decent question.

Sophia

Sophia the Thunder Mistress · 06-01-2003, 07:03 PM

In Shadow and old Memory I stalk
The unwary are my prey.
Beside the sleepless waters,
under the shadows of old mountains,
Those I find are unremembered
and their children love the darkness.

Lasgalen · 06-02-2003, 02:14 AM

Shelob feasting on orcs?

Sophia the Thunder Mistress · 06-02-2003, 07:29 PM

nope [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

Lasgalen · 06-02-2003, 09:33 PM

Melkor preying on the Avari?

Sophia the Thunder Mistress · 06-02-2003, 11:00 PM

After long and thoughtful consideration, I've decided to accept this. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] All theories of orc origin aside, there was certainly an unknown hunter that stalked the Quendi at Cuivienen. I don't know that it was necessarily Melkor, but you got the idea, Lasgalen. The floor is yours.

Sophia

Lasgalen · 06-03-2003, 12:34 AM

Who lived where the shadows 'were thickest and deepest'? (sorry I can't make a poem out of my question.)

**The Saucepan Man** · 06-03-2003, 04:38 AM

Complete guess, as I haven't got my books to hand, but is it Ungoliant?

Gil-Galad · 06-03-2003, 06:53 AM

sauceman is probaly right but i'll try to guess Shelob [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

Lasgalen · 06-03-2003, 01:35 PM

Ungoliant is correct.

**The Saucepan Man** · 06-07-2003, 08:54 PM

Thank you Lasgalen. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Take a counsellor
Of most treacherous mind,
And rob him of language
My kindred to find.

Great treasures I gained
From those who like such things,
And on my death they passed
To the fathers of the Eorlings

Sophia the Thunder Mistress · 06-07-2003, 09:24 PM

Take a counsellor
Of most treacherous mind, - Wormtongue
And rob him of language - Minus Tongue
My kindred to find. -Worm

Great treasures I gained
From those who like such things,
And on my death they passed
To the fathers of the Eorlings - Killed by Fram son of Frumgar

Scatha the Worm of course!

Sophia

**The Saucepan Man** · 06-08-2003, 05:19 PM

A perfect answer, Sophia. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Sophia the Thunder Mistress · 06-08-2003, 05:41 PM

This is terribly easy, but I'm attempting to make about four riddles at the moment, so it's the best I can do.

We are roughened,
followed by a breath,
moved by the last of the music,
where forever it echoes.

Gil-Galad · 06-09-2003, 04:17 PM

i ahev a starneg feelign it has soemthign to do with when Frodo and the Hobbits were in the Barrow-Wights tomb, and Tom came singign to save htem

Sophia the Thunder Mistress · 06-09-2003, 09:29 PM

Your strong feeling leads you very much astray, Gil-Galad [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img].

Sophia

Lasgalen · 06-10-2003, 02:59 AM

Melkor creating the orcs?

Sophia the Thunder Mistress · 06-10-2003, 04:32 PM

No. When working out a riddle, or clue of this type, it helps you to show how you came to that answer, cause then I could say: "No, your answer's wrong, but here's what you're right about." It helps me to know too, if people are getting close, so I can give better hints if nobody guesses.

Gil-Galad · 06-12-2003, 03:35 PM

could it be abotu the Balrogs when Melkor cried and they came, you can always here his cry in the mountains

Sophia the Thunder Mistress · 06-12-2003, 06:24 PM

Still no, Gil-galad, but thanks for showing me how you got the answer you did [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Sophia

Estanesse · 06-13-2003, 07:21 PM

Black Númenóreans

They attacked Gondor followed by a great plague
The last part of the great music of the Ainur did go about men ruling ME

Sophia the Thunder Mistress · 06-13-2003, 08:07 PM

Nope, but getting slightly warmer.

Finwe · 06-13-2003, 09:31 PM

Corsairs of Umbar? I'm trying to name all of the "bad guys" related to the Black Numenoreans.

Sophia the Thunder Mistress · 06-14-2003, 07:28 PM

Yes, that is it Finwe, but so disappointing that you didn't use my clues, I was so proud of them. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

We are roughened = Coarse (which sounds like Cors)
followed by a breath = air (Corsair)
Moved by the last of the music (of the Ainur)
Where forever it echoes = in water, which moves ships.

Carry on, Finwe.

Sophia

Sophia the Thunder Mistress · 06-22-2003, 02:30 PM

Finwe? *bump*

Finwe · 06-27-2003, 08:28 AM

Sorry! I had forgotten entirely about this thread!

We are the festival,
where rabbits romp,
We are the little ones,
Rather than the large.
We were deceived,
By the one who deceives,
We named the others,
After their animals' food.

Lasgalen · 06-30-2003, 12:37 AM

The Easterlings in Dor-Lomin?

Finwe · 06-30-2003, 11:31 AM

Yes.

**The Saucepan Man** · 06-30-2003, 12:56 PM

Lasgalen, when answering riddles such as this, you should give an explanation of how you arrived at the answer. This prevents "lucky guesses" and it is also interesting for those of us who may have puzzled over the riddle to see how it works. (It also gives the "riddler" a sense of satisfaction. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] )

So, please elaborate ... [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

05-25-2003, 12:29 PM	#161
Sophia the Thunder Mistress Scent of Simbelmynë Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Aboard Highwind, bound for Traverse Town Posts: 1,780	Nope, still not what I'm looking for. The first line is a near direct (slightly adapted) quote from the source, and the second line hints at the word itself. Sophia __________________ The seasons fall like silver swords, the years rush ever onward; and soon I sail, to leave this world, these lands where I have wander'd. O Elbereth! O Queen who dwells beyond the Western Seas, spare me yet a little time 'ere white ships come for me!

05-27-2003, 01:10 PM	#162
Sophia the Thunder Mistress Scent of Simbelmynë Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Aboard Highwind, bound for Traverse Town Posts: 1,780	bump Saucepan? I thought you'd get this in fifteen seconds... [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img] Where all you interpreters of vaguely non-straightforward clues? __________________ The seasons fall like silver swords, the years rush ever onward; and soon I sail, to leave this world, these lands where I have wander'd. O Elbereth! O Queen who dwells beyond the Western Seas, spare me yet a little time 'ere white ships come for me!

05-28-2003, 06:51 AM	#163
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	Sorry. Not been on much in the last few days. [img]smilies/frown.gif[/img] It's the Oath-breakers. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] When doom approaches the halls of silent kings: This presumably refers to Aragorn fulfilling the prophecy of Malbeth the Seer and entering the Paths of the Dead to hold the Dead Kings to their oath. The great waves follow the promised words of old: Breakers (great waves) following oath (promised words of old). [img]smilies/cool.gif[/img] [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img] __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

05-28-2003, 07:10 PM	#164
Sophia the Thunder Mistress Scent of Simbelmynë Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Aboard Highwind, bound for Traverse Town Posts: 1,780	bows Thank you! [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] I was beginning to think I'd actually written a difficult question [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]. [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] Sophia __________________ The seasons fall like silver swords, the years rush ever onward; and soon I sail, to leave this world, these lands where I have wander'd. O Elbereth! O Queen who dwells beyond the Western Seas, spare me yet a little time 'ere white ships come for me!

05-29-2003, 04:09 PM	#166
Gil-Galad Psyche of Prince Immortal Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Above a Parapet Obvious exits are: North, South, and Dennis Posts: 4,734	i doubt my anwser, Malbeth or Arvedui __________________ Love doesn't blow up and get killed.

05-30-2003, 07:20 AM	#167
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	You are correct to doubt your answer, Gil-Galad. [img]smilies/evil.gif[/img] [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

05-30-2003, 08:11 AM	#168
Gil-Galad Psyche of Prince Immortal Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Above a Parapet Obvious exits are: North, South, and Dennis Posts: 4,734	[img]smilies/frown.gif[/img] [img]smilies/frown.gif[/img] [img]smilies/mad.gif[/img] [img]smilies/eek.gif[/img] [img]smilies/frown.gif[/img] [img]smilies/frown.gif[/img] [img]smilies/frown.gif[/img] __________________ Love doesn't blow up and get killed.

05-30-2003, 08:13 AM	#169
Finwe Deathless Sun Join Date: May 2003 Location: The Royal Suite in the Halls of Mandos Posts: 2,609	Saruman? __________________ But Melkor also was there, and he came to the house of Fëanor, and there he slew Finwë King of the Noldor before his doors, and spilled the first blood in the Blessed Realm; for Finwë alone had not fled from the horror of the Dark.

05-30-2003, 05:28 PM	#170
Sophia the Thunder Mistress Scent of Simbelmynë Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Aboard Highwind, bound for Traverse Town Posts: 1,780	Bill Ferny, either him or his Squint eyed companion. __________________ The seasons fall like silver swords, the years rush ever onward; and soon I sail, to leave this world, these lands where I have wander'd. O Elbereth! O Queen who dwells beyond the Western Seas, spare me yet a little time 'ere white ships come for me!

05-30-2003, 06:13 PM	#171
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	Indeed, it was the squint-eyed southerner that I had in mind. Very well done, Sophia. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

05-30-2003, 08:52 PM	#172
Sophia the Thunder Mistress Scent of Simbelmynë Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Aboard Highwind, bound for Traverse Town Posts: 1,780	Thanks Saucepans [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]. It came to me in a flash... LOL. I'll be back with you as soon as I have time to think of a decent question. Sophia __________________ The seasons fall like silver swords, the years rush ever onward; and soon I sail, to leave this world, these lands where I have wander'd. O Elbereth! O Queen who dwells beyond the Western Seas, spare me yet a little time 'ere white ships come for me!

06-01-2003, 07:03 PM	#173
Sophia the Thunder Mistress Scent of Simbelmynë Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Aboard Highwind, bound for Traverse Town Posts: 1,780	In Shadow and old Memory I stalk The unwary are my prey. Beside the sleepless waters, under the shadows of old mountains, Those I find are unremembered and their children love the darkness. __________________ The seasons fall like silver swords, the years rush ever onward; and soon I sail, to leave this world, these lands where I have wander'd. O Elbereth! O Queen who dwells beyond the Western Seas, spare me yet a little time 'ere white ships come for me!

06-02-2003, 02:14 AM	#174
Lasgalen Wight Join Date: May 2003 Location: Tempe, AZ Posts: 101	Shelob feasting on orcs? __________________ When you're riding in a time machine way far into the future, don't stick your elbow out the window, or it'll turn into a fossil.

06-02-2003, 07:29 PM	#175
Sophia the Thunder Mistress Scent of Simbelmynë Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Aboard Highwind, bound for Traverse Town Posts: 1,780	nope [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] __________________ The seasons fall like silver swords, the years rush ever onward; and soon I sail, to leave this world, these lands where I have wander'd. O Elbereth! O Queen who dwells beyond the Western Seas, spare me yet a little time 'ere white ships come for me!

06-02-2003, 09:33 PM	#176
Lasgalen Wight Join Date: May 2003 Location: Tempe, AZ Posts: 101	Melkor preying on the Avari? __________________ When you're riding in a time machine way far into the future, don't stick your elbow out the window, or it'll turn into a fossil.

06-02-2003, 11:00 PM	#177
Sophia the Thunder Mistress Scent of Simbelmynë Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Aboard Highwind, bound for Traverse Town Posts: 1,780	After long and thoughtful consideration, I've decided to accept this. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] All theories of orc origin aside, there was certainly an unknown hunter that stalked the Quendi at Cuivienen. I don't know that it was necessarily Melkor, but you got the idea, Lasgalen. The floor is yours. Sophia __________________ The seasons fall like silver swords, the years rush ever onward; and soon I sail, to leave this world, these lands where I have wander'd. O Elbereth! O Queen who dwells beyond the Western Seas, spare me yet a little time 'ere white ships come for me!

06-03-2003, 12:34 AM	#178
Lasgalen Wight Join Date: May 2003 Location: Tempe, AZ Posts: 101	Who lived where the shadows 'were thickest and deepest'? (sorry I can't make a poem out of my question.) __________________ When you're riding in a time machine way far into the future, don't stick your elbow out the window, or it'll turn into a fossil.

06-03-2003, 04:38 AM	#179
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	Complete guess, as I haven't got my books to hand, but is it Ungoliant? __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

06-03-2003, 06:53 AM	#180
Gil-Galad Psyche of Prince Immortal Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Above a Parapet Obvious exits are: North, South, and Dennis Posts: 4,734	sauceman is probaly right but i'll try to guess Shelob [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] __________________ Love doesn't blow up and get killed.

06-03-2003, 01:35 PM	#181
Lasgalen Wight Join Date: May 2003 Location: Tempe, AZ Posts: 101	Ungoliant is correct. __________________ When you're riding in a time machine way far into the future, don't stick your elbow out the window, or it'll turn into a fossil.

06-07-2003, 08:54 PM	#182
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	Thank you Lasgalen. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] Take a counsellor Of most treacherous mind, And rob him of language My kindred to find. Great treasures I gained From those who like such things, And on my death they passed To the fathers of the Eorlings __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

06-07-2003, 09:24 PM	#183
Sophia the Thunder Mistress Scent of Simbelmynë Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Aboard Highwind, bound for Traverse Town Posts: 1,780	Take a counsellor Of most treacherous mind, - Wormtongue And rob him of language - Minus Tongue My kindred to find. -Worm Great treasures I gained From those who like such things, And on my death they passed To the fathers of the Eorlings - Killed by Fram son of Frumgar Scatha the Worm of course! Sophia __________________ The seasons fall like silver swords, the years rush ever onward; and soon I sail, to leave this world, these lands where I have wander'd. O Elbereth! O Queen who dwells beyond the Western Seas, spare me yet a little time 'ere white ships come for me!

06-08-2003, 05:19 PM	#184
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	A perfect answer, Sophia. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

06-08-2003, 05:41 PM	#185
Sophia the Thunder Mistress Scent of Simbelmynë Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Aboard Highwind, bound for Traverse Town Posts: 1,780	This is terribly easy, but I'm attempting to make about four riddles at the moment, so it's the best I can do. We are roughened, followed by a breath, moved by the last of the music, where forever it echoes. __________________ The seasons fall like silver swords, the years rush ever onward; and soon I sail, to leave this world, these lands where I have wander'd. O Elbereth! O Queen who dwells beyond the Western Seas, spare me yet a little time 'ere white ships come for me!

06-09-2003, 04:17 PM	#186
Gil-Galad Psyche of Prince Immortal Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Above a Parapet Obvious exits are: North, South, and Dennis Posts: 4,734	i ahev a starneg feelign it has soemthign to do with when Frodo and the Hobbits were in the Barrow-Wights tomb, and Tom came singign to save htem __________________ Love doesn't blow up and get killed.

06-09-2003, 09:29 PM	#187
Sophia the Thunder Mistress Scent of Simbelmynë Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Aboard Highwind, bound for Traverse Town Posts: 1,780	Your strong feeling leads you very much astray, Gil-Galad [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]. Sophia __________________ The seasons fall like silver swords, the years rush ever onward; and soon I sail, to leave this world, these lands where I have wander'd. O Elbereth! O Queen who dwells beyond the Western Seas, spare me yet a little time 'ere white ships come for me!

06-10-2003, 02:59 AM	#188
Lasgalen Wight Join Date: May 2003 Location: Tempe, AZ Posts: 101	Melkor creating the orcs? __________________ When you're riding in a time machine way far into the future, don't stick your elbow out the window, or it'll turn into a fossil.

06-10-2003, 04:32 PM	#189
Sophia the Thunder Mistress Scent of Simbelmynë Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Aboard Highwind, bound for Traverse Town Posts: 1,780	No. When working out a riddle, or clue of this type, it helps you to show how you came to that answer, cause then I could say: "No, your answer's wrong, but here's what you're right about." It helps me to know too, if people are getting close, so I can give better hints if nobody guesses. __________________ The seasons fall like silver swords, the years rush ever onward; and soon I sail, to leave this world, these lands where I have wander'd. O Elbereth! O Queen who dwells beyond the Western Seas, spare me yet a little time 'ere white ships come for me!

06-12-2003, 03:35 PM	#190
Gil-Galad Psyche of Prince Immortal Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Above a Parapet Obvious exits are: North, South, and Dennis Posts: 4,734	could it be abotu the Balrogs when Melkor cried and they came, you can always here his cry in the mountains __________________ Love doesn't blow up and get killed.

06-12-2003, 06:24 PM	#191
Sophia the Thunder Mistress Scent of Simbelmynë Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Aboard Highwind, bound for Traverse Town Posts: 1,780	Still no, Gil-galad, but thanks for showing me how you got the answer you did [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] Sophia __________________ The seasons fall like silver swords, the years rush ever onward; and soon I sail, to leave this world, these lands where I have wander'd. O Elbereth! O Queen who dwells beyond the Western Seas, spare me yet a little time 'ere white ships come for me!

06-13-2003, 07:21 PM	#192
Estanesse Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: somewhere far away Posts: 561	Black Númenóreans They attacked Gondor followed by a great plague The last part of the great music of the Ainur did go about men ruling ME __________________ Since there is no time like the present, I thought it was time to present the present.

06-13-2003, 08:07 PM	#193
Sophia the Thunder Mistress Scent of Simbelmynë Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Aboard Highwind, bound for Traverse Town Posts: 1,780	Nope, but getting slightly warmer. __________________ The seasons fall like silver swords, the years rush ever onward; and soon I sail, to leave this world, these lands where I have wander'd. O Elbereth! O Queen who dwells beyond the Western Seas, spare me yet a little time 'ere white ships come for me!

06-13-2003, 09:31 PM	#194
Finwe Deathless Sun Join Date: May 2003 Location: The Royal Suite in the Halls of Mandos Posts: 2,609	Corsairs of Umbar? I'm trying to name all of the "bad guys" related to the Black Numenoreans. __________________ But Melkor also was there, and he came to the house of Fëanor, and there he slew Finwë King of the Noldor before his doors, and spilled the first blood in the Blessed Realm; for Finwë alone had not fled from the horror of the Dark.

06-14-2003, 07:28 PM	#195
Sophia the Thunder Mistress Scent of Simbelmynë Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Aboard Highwind, bound for Traverse Town Posts: 1,780	Yes, that is it Finwe, but so disappointing that you didn't use my clues, I was so proud of them. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] We are roughened = Coarse (which sounds like Cors) followed by a breath = air (Corsair) Moved by the last of the music (of the Ainur) Where forever it echoes = in water, which moves ships. Carry on, Finwe. Sophia __________________ The seasons fall like silver swords, the years rush ever onward; and soon I sail, to leave this world, these lands where I have wander'd. O Elbereth! O Queen who dwells beyond the Western Seas, spare me yet a little time 'ere white ships come for me!

06-22-2003, 02:30 PM	#196
Sophia the Thunder Mistress Scent of Simbelmynë Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Aboard Highwind, bound for Traverse Town Posts: 1,780	Finwe? bump __________________ The seasons fall like silver swords, the years rush ever onward; and soon I sail, to leave this world, these lands where I have wander'd. O Elbereth! O Queen who dwells beyond the Western Seas, spare me yet a little time 'ere white ships come for me!