Here There Be Dragons - Discussion/Planning - Page 4 - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

piosenniel · 03-08-2004, 12:40 PM

Unfortunately, that exceedingly helpful and lovely map site is gone . . .

So here are a few other options.

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This is Second Age from Fonstad:

Map 1

~*~

Also 2nd Age:

Map 2

~*~

Close to the original map – but you need to move the mountain range closer to the west coast (this is more like the southern lands before the sinking of Beleriand:

Map 3

~*~

This gives a good look at the restructured lands after the sinking of Beleriand and Numenor (make sure you expand it to regular size to see all the features):

Map 4

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Personally, I like Map 1 and Map 4

~*~ Pio @ cartography central . . .

Hilde Bracegirdle · 03-08-2004, 03:08 PM

Many thanks!

EDIT: I have amended the last post for Thorn to make his whereabouts sufficently more vague.

Nerindel · 03-10-2004, 07:24 PM

okies everyone

I have just introduced a new character which I have been discussing with child, you may have noticed that I have refrained from putting a name to this character, this is done intentionally to add to the mystery of the character, Who she is and what role she plays will be reveiled as the story progresses.

For now all anyone should see is a large brown eagle with a pale golden wash on the back of her head and neck and her tail feathers are faintly banded. She is roughly about 2 feet in length and weighs about 10 pounds, with a wing span of about 5 feet.

***Mithadan*** · 03-11-2004, 07:47 PM

I have filled in my save. Nerindel, Mithadan likes his meat medium rare.

Ealasaide · 03-12-2004, 09:05 AM

Airefalas is a vegetarian. (Just kidding!

)

piosenniel · 03-12-2004, 10:42 AM

Piosenniel and Rôg will be gone from 3/12 through 3/18 . . .

Ealasaide · 03-16-2004, 07:46 AM

This is just to let everyone know that I have made a couple of changes to my last post from Airefalas. For some reason I had been thinking that Airefalas & Mithadan had not been allowed to bring their own weapons with them into the palace. Having read the latest from Mith, I see that I was mistaken, so I have changed my post to reflect that.

Also,

Quote:

Behind them, the light of the setting sun which entered the windows was oddly red and the curtains were rustled by a rising wind.

Nice touch, Mithadan!

Nerindel · 03-19-2004, 09:49 AM

Ok I have finally managed to fill my save.

Sorry Mithadan, Ealasaide but I was not able to bring him to the same time frame as your characters, as I require some input from Esty's character's before the meal begins.

Well Esty it looks like the ball's now in your court.

~Nerindel

Estelyn Telcontar · 03-19-2004, 11:01 AM

I'm very sorry that I haven't been able to post for Wyrma, everyone. Two weeks absence were planned, since I had US family visiting, but since then, illness in the family has been keeping me too busy to do more than one thing at a time. I will do my best to get some planning done for Wyrma and allies and to post ASAP. Nerindel, Tinar would be delighted to join Kor for dinner - I will post that very soon.

Nerindel · 03-26-2004, 08:09 AM

Ok Mithadan, Ealasaide Korpulfr awaits your arrival.

Hope you both like roasted camel or perhaps honey glazed mountain goat!

Ealasaide · 03-26-2004, 09:00 AM

Yum!

***Mithadan*** · 04-01-2004, 12:26 PM

*Mithadan enters planning room, trying to ignore the dust that has accumulated on the floor and the tables.

"HELLOOOO!"

*Echoes ("HE, ELLL, LLLOOO...")

Child of the 7th Age · 04-01-2004, 12:42 PM

Mithadan,

Hello!

I've been wondering for some time what's been bogging us down.

Right now, my characters are in a situation where they can do little to advance the story line. Ráma is stuck in a cave outside Umbar waiting for the errant Gondorians to arrive so we can head out to my clan. Aiwendil and Rôg have been exchanging reflective observations out in the desert to try and stall until some of the other characters get out here! I am ready to hire a "shrink" for the two of them!

You know me, Mithadan. There's probably no one who likes reflective posts more than I do. But I have had my fill of introspection and am dying for some action to occur!

I can see several problems we're dealing with, in addition to the obvious fact that a number of us (including myself) have crowded schedules right now. I think part of the problem is that our characters are still geographically scattered. If we could somehow get them together in one place, I think that things would proceed more quickly, since anyone could help further the storyline.

I also think it might help if there was more communication on the discussion thread. That's one reason I'm posting my ideas here rather than sending them out by pm.

I don't know what you have planned for the Star and the action inside the city. Are there particular individuals whom we're waiting to post? Do we need to send folk a friendly reminder?

After Tuesday night, my own schedule opens up and I will have plenty of time to help and/or write if that is needed.

Any ideas from anyone on how we can get things rolling again?

Sharon

Estelyn Telcontar · 04-01-2004, 12:48 PM

I feel much the same, Sharon - time has passed more slowly in the Corsair city than outside it, as far as I can tell. We're still on the day after the reception! I don't know what to do with Wyrma while I wait for the other strands of the story to continue...

Ealasaide · 04-01-2004, 12:58 PM

As far as I know, Mithadan and Airefalas need to escape from their guards (after dinner), miss sailing with the Star, and then re-connect with Rama. I, for one, have been waiting for Nerindel to post again to get the dinner underway. Having spoken with her recently concerning another matter, I know that Nerindel has been very busy with RL obligations. I'm sure she will have something to post soon.

That being said, would it help for me to go ahead & post with Airefalas? I suppose I could try to move things along, but as neither Host nor Captain, Airefalas is in not much of a position to instigate much action at this point.

***Mithadan*** · 04-01-2004, 01:01 PM

We need to get through Dinner at Korpulfr's home. This will require Nerindel to post, and myself and Ealesaide to respond. From there, its a matter of a few posts to reach the Star's departure and get events moving in Umbar so that pieces of the Southern contingent can be reunited, if only temporarily.

Matters in the North are stalled until we can get the Star back to Gondor, though there are a few things we can do in the interim. Once the Star gets underway, we can speed up the timeline to assist the Northerners in heading South.

I think that Estelyn and Nerindel need to discuss what direction the Wyrma contingent are going to move in. I am available to discuss this issue as are Pio and Child, I'm sure. Some brainstorming will be needed there.

Ealasaide · 04-01-2004, 01:06 PM

Okay - I will continue to wait

piosenniel · 04-01-2004, 01:06 PM

I am available to discuss any issue - here or by PM.

And willing to pick up another character if needed to get us going.

In the meantime, Cami, I am in the midst of a further introspective post

~*~ Pio

Ealasaide · 04-01-2004, 01:13 PM

I, too, am available to pick up an additional character at any point along the way. At this stage, I think I am the only one writing just one character.

Hilde Bracegirdle · 04-01-2004, 08:44 PM

Ah, leave the Barrow Downs for a few hours and such a flurry when you return!

Hilde is still on board with pen in hand, pondering events in the desert evening.

Nerindel · 04-02-2004, 01:05 PM

ok Everyone, sorry for holding things up!

As Ealasaide has told you I've had a very busy schedule this week.

but I'm free tonight and all yours.

Child of the 7th Age · 04-04-2004, 08:43 AM

I've just put up another post for Narika and Yalisha ( a new character that Nerindel helped to construct).

Narika has learned that poison may be involved in her mother's condition and she is not feeling too kindly towards any strangers who travel from Umbar:

Quote:

Every time we touch that city, we come away with grief. I swear if anything happens to my mother, I will slay any outsider who dares approach the clan even in so-called friendship."

Good luck, Mithadan and Airefalas!

piosenniel · 04-05-2004, 03:31 AM

Hmmmm . . . and how is Aiwendil going to allay the suspicions of the Eagle clan when he and Rôg show up on their trusty steed?

Child of the 7th Age · 04-05-2004, 06:29 AM

Whoops! I hadn't thought of that little plot twist, especially seeing that Rôg will probably be recognized and his earlier entry virtualy coincided with the appearance of the assassin.

Child

P.S. At least he hasn't been in Umbar recently!

Hilde Bracegirdle · 04-05-2004, 10:16 AM

I think between Surinen and Thorn, they will figure the assassin wasn't likely Rog or Aiwendel...(if Narika doesn't slay them before Thorn arrives!).

Thorn is due to arrive in camp in the late evening/early morning hours, I don't know if this is before Aiwendel and Rog show up. If not, it would appear things might get a little exciting for them!

I have a post for Thorn waiting that touches on this and have planned to have Surinen and Thorn discuss it after that in Surinen's post.

Feel free to have Surinen plead their case meanwhile, he is suspicious of Rog but doesn't think badly of him, and once he talks to Thorn he should calm down quite a bit more. Narayad on the other hand might be a different story.

Estelyn Telcontar · 04-05-2004, 01:26 PM

I would indeed appreciate some brainstorming for long-term strategies - it's difficult to plan for Wyrma without knowing where the story is going. If the action leaves the city and she's stuck there in Falasmir's court, she needs to have something to do there. I do have some ideas for the immediate future, but am having trouble thinking beyond that.

Hilde Bracegirdle · 04-05-2004, 02:03 PM

Yes, I agree. I was kind of wondering what her position regarding the Eagle clan was exactly. I do realize she has an evident grudge against Ayar, but was it for some incident or for her refusal to lead her clan into the fold.

Estelyn Telcontar · 04-05-2004, 03:14 PM

Well, on the surface, it's the latter reason, but who knows? We may find out that the differences go back farther...

Child of the 7th Age · 04-05-2004, 05:53 PM

Esty,

I am busy through Tuesday night and won't be on much, but after that my schedule opens up.

I think the need for brainstorming is even wider than Wyrma. As far as I know, we had only hammered out the "details" for the rebels down to the point that all the "good" characters joined up at the Eagle clan and Ayar died. These characters include Mith and Airefalas, Aiwendil and Rôg, Pio and Baran, plus all the assorted Eagles. We probably need to get some idea of what the "good" folk will be focusing on next in order to tell what Wyrma and the other baddies should be doing (and vice versa as well).

Pio, Mith, if I've forgotten something specific about the immediate plot beyond what I've said, please remind me.... Also, how does the absent Bird (as a character) fit into this....?

BTW, does Wyrma "have to" stay in Umbar? Might there not be some compelling reason or lure that would cause her to leave: either chasing after her enemies or perhaps going out to find something/someone that would gain her side some advantage. For all I know, both sides could be chasing after something.--Bird or something else.

Whatever we do, I would prefer that the major characters be in general physical proximity or at least be focusing on one particular goal. Otherwise, we get isolated subplots that can be a problem to push forward.

Child

***Mithadan*** · 04-06-2004, 05:34 PM

Mithadan has told his tale. It may cause Korpulfr to ask some questions...or not.

Nerindel · 04-07-2004, 08:50 AM

ok Mith you've arroused Kor's couriousity and he wants to know more of this Bird and why she would look for her kin in the southlands.

Esty are you wanting to post something for Tinar before we finish up?

Ealasaide · 04-08-2004, 07:57 AM

Ah, yikes! Many apologies for the absence of myself and Airefalas... I see a lot has been happening.

I subscribed to the threads, but had not received any e-mail alerts regarding the activity, so I was not aware that anything new had been posted. Henceforth, I will not rely on subscription alerts...

I have a lot of reading to do to get caught up again!!! Once I do that, I will get to work on a post.

piosenniel · 04-08-2004, 10:44 AM

The action in Gondor had been behind by a number of weeks (I drew out a timeline and plotted all the separate events). So, tomorrow I’ll have a post up that brings the Gondor contingent up to the same time as the evening meal at Korpulfr’s in Umbar.

piosenniel · 04-09-2004, 02:23 AM

Mith

Can you bring Pio and Baran current with the happenings in Umbar?

I’ve placed them meeting in the Inn 2 weeks prior to the party/reception at the Hall of Feasts (Merethrond) the King has planned for the new traders from Rhûn, Khand, and Near Harad and some of the prominent merchant families from Gondor.

Pio would like to invite Baran to accompany her. Go ahead and use my character as needed. She can introduce him to the King and others at the party. Many of whom I’m sure will grumble at the presence of a Shapechanger in Minas Tirith and even more so, one at the King’s party.

If you can get us through the bulk of the party from Baran’s viewpoint that would be great. I’d planned for the King’s party to take place the same night as the dinner in Umbar with Mithadan and Airefalas at Korpulfr’s.

Please also check your email.

~*~ Pio

Estelyn Telcontar · 04-12-2004, 11:49 AM

I moved my save for Tinar to be after Ealasaide's post - it will be filled by tomorrow. Sorry, but family visiting for Easter kept me from writing over the weekend...

piosenniel · 04-12-2004, 12:17 PM

Alrighty then, the Gondor contingent is at last current with the time in Umbar.

Nerindel · 04-13-2004, 11:13 AM

The save I have up is not for Korpulfr, but for my eagle character.

I hope to have it filled sometime tomorrow.

Estelyn Telcontar · 04-13-2004, 02:12 PM

I have filled in the save for Tinar - he is following Mithadan's and Airefalas' trail to see what they're up to...

Child of the 7th Age · 04-13-2004, 02:20 PM

I have filled in my save on the bottom of page 4. Poor Aiwendil is finally beginning to put his act together.

Hilde,

I couldn't seem to do it in one post. I'll start work on the next immediately, although I don't know if Rôg will have anything to say first about this latest turn of events.

Could you possibly hop your save forward after my post is up?

Child

Hilde Bracegirdle · 04-13-2004, 06:04 PM

Your wish is my command, Child !

03-08-2004, 12:40 PM	#121
piosenniel Desultory Dwimmerlaik Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Pickin' flowers with Bill the Cat..... Posts: 7,779	Unfortunately, that exceedingly helpful and lovely map site is gone . . . So here are a few other options. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is Second Age from Fonstad: Map 1 ~~ Also 2nd Age: Map 2 ~~ Close to the original map – but you need to move the mountain range closer to the west coast (this is more like the southern lands before the sinking of Beleriand: Map 3 ~~ This gives a good look at the restructured lands after the sinking of Beleriand and Numenor (make sure you expand it to regular size to see all the features): Map 4 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Personally, I like Map 1 and Map 4 ~~ Pio @ cartography central . . . __________________ Eldest, that’s what I am . . . I knew the dark under the stars when it was fearless - before the Dark Lord came from Outside.

03-08-2004, 03:08 PM	#122
Hilde Bracegirdle Relic of Wandering Days Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: You'll See Perpetual Change. Posts: 1,480	Many thanks! EDIT: I have amended the last post for Thorn to make his whereabouts sufficently more vague. Last edited by Hilde Bracegirdle; 03-08-2004 at 06:04 PM.

03-10-2004, 07:24 PM	#123
Nerindel Spirited Weaver of Fates Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: In an endless sea of dreams! Posts: 827	okies everyone I have just introduced a new character which I have been discussing with child, you may have noticed that I have refrained from putting a name to this character, this is done intentionally to add to the mystery of the character, Who she is and what role she plays will be reveiled as the story progresses. For now all anyone should see is a large brown eagle with a pale golden wash on the back of her head and neck and her tail feathers are faintly banded. She is roughly about 2 feet in length and weighs about 10 pounds, with a wing span of about 5 feet. __________________ "Don't part with your illusions. When they are gone you may still exist, but you have ceased to live" ~ Mark Twain.

03-11-2004, 07:47 PM	#124
*Mithadan* Spirit of Mist Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Tol Eressea Posts: 3,380	I have filled in my save. Nerindel, Mithadan likes his meat medium rare. __________________ Beleriand, Beleriand, the borders of the Elven-land.

03-12-2004, 10:42 AM	#126
piosenniel Desultory Dwimmerlaik Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Pickin' flowers with Bill the Cat..... Posts: 7,779	Piosenniel and Rôg will be gone from 3/12 through 3/18 . . . __________________ Eldest, that’s what I am . . . I knew the dark under the stars when it was fearless - before the Dark Lord came from Outside.

03-12-2004, 09:05 AM	#125
Ealasaide Shadow of Tyrn Gorthad Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Fencing Lyst Posts: 810	Airefalas is a vegetarian. (Just kidding! )

03-19-2004, 09:49 AM	#128
Nerindel Spirited Weaver of Fates Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: In an endless sea of dreams! Posts: 827	Ok I have finally managed to fill my save. Sorry Mithadan, Ealasaide but I was not able to bring him to the same time frame as your characters, as I require some input from Esty's character's before the meal begins. Well Esty it looks like the ball's now in your court. ~Nerindel __________________ "Don't part with your illusions. When they are gone you may still exist, but you have ceased to live" ~ Mark Twain.

03-19-2004, 11:01 AM	#129
Estelyn Telcontar Princess of Skwerlz Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: where the Sea is eastwards (WtR: 6060 miles) Posts: 7,500	I'm very sorry that I haven't been able to post for Wyrma, everyone. Two weeks absence were planned, since I had US family visiting, but since then, illness in the family has been keeping me too busy to do more than one thing at a time. I will do my best to get some planning done for Wyrma and allies and to post ASAP. Nerindel, Tinar would be delighted to join Kor for dinner - I will post that very soon. __________________ 'Mercy!' cried Gandalf. 'If the giving of information is to be the cure of your inquisitiveness, I shall spend all the rest of my days in answering you. What more do you want to know?' 'The whole history of Middle-earth...'

03-26-2004, 08:09 AM	#130
Nerindel Spirited Weaver of Fates Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: In an endless sea of dreams! Posts: 827	Ok Mithadan, Ealasaide Korpulfr awaits your arrival. Hope you both like roasted camel or perhaps honey glazed mountain goat! __________________ "Don't part with your illusions. When they are gone you may still exist, but you have ceased to live" ~ Mark Twain.

03-26-2004, 09:00 AM	#131
Ealasaide Shadow of Tyrn Gorthad Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Fencing Lyst Posts: 810	Yum!

04-01-2004, 12:26 PM	#132
*Mithadan* Spirit of Mist Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Tol Eressea Posts: 3,380	Mithadan enters planning room, trying to ignore the dust that has accumulated on the floor and the tables. "HELLOOOO!" Echoes ("HE, ELLL, LLLOOO...") __________________ Beleriand, Beleriand, the borders of the Elven-land.

04-01-2004, 12:42 PM	#133
Child of the 7th Age Spirit of the Lonely Star Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 5,133	Mithadan, Hello! I've been wondering for some time what's been bogging us down. Right now, my characters are in a situation where they can do little to advance the story line. Ráma is stuck in a cave outside Umbar waiting for the errant Gondorians to arrive so we can head out to my clan. Aiwendil and Rôg have been exchanging reflective observations out in the desert to try and stall until some of the other characters get out here! I am ready to hire a "shrink" for the two of them! You know me, Mithadan. There's probably no one who likes reflective posts more than I do. But I have had my fill of introspection and am dying for some action to occur! I can see several problems we're dealing with, in addition to the obvious fact that a number of us (including myself) have crowded schedules right now. I think part of the problem is that our characters are still geographically scattered. If we could somehow get them together in one place, I think that things would proceed more quickly, since anyone could help further the storyline. I also think it might help if there was more communication on the discussion thread. That's one reason I'm posting my ideas here rather than sending them out by pm. I don't know what you have planned for the Star and the action inside the city. Are there particular individuals whom we're waiting to post? Do we need to send folk a friendly reminder? After Tuesday night, my own schedule opens up and I will have plenty of time to help and/or write if that is needed. Any ideas from anyone on how we can get things rolling again? Sharon __________________ Multitasking women are never too busy to vote.

04-01-2004, 12:48 PM	#134
Estelyn Telcontar Princess of Skwerlz Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: where the Sea is eastwards (WtR: 6060 miles) Posts: 7,500	I feel much the same, Sharon - time has passed more slowly in the Corsair city than outside it, as far as I can tell. We're still on the day after the reception! I don't know what to do with Wyrma while I wait for the other strands of the story to continue... __________________ 'Mercy!' cried Gandalf. 'If the giving of information is to be the cure of your inquisitiveness, I shall spend all the rest of my days in answering you. What more do you want to know?' 'The whole history of Middle-earth...'

04-01-2004, 12:58 PM	#135
Ealasaide Shadow of Tyrn Gorthad Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Fencing Lyst Posts: 810	As far as I know, Mithadan and Airefalas need to escape from their guards (after dinner), miss sailing with the Star, and then re-connect with Rama. I, for one, have been waiting for Nerindel to post again to get the dinner underway. Having spoken with her recently concerning another matter, I know that Nerindel has been very busy with RL obligations. I'm sure she will have something to post soon. That being said, would it help for me to go ahead & post with Airefalas? I suppose I could try to move things along, but as neither Host nor Captain, Airefalas is in not much of a position to instigate much action at this point.

04-01-2004, 01:01 PM	#136
*Mithadan* Spirit of Mist Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Tol Eressea Posts: 3,380	We need to get through Dinner at Korpulfr's home. This will require Nerindel to post, and myself and Ealesaide to respond. From there, its a matter of a few posts to reach the Star's departure and get events moving in Umbar so that pieces of the Southern contingent can be reunited, if only temporarily. Matters in the North are stalled until we can get the Star back to Gondor, though there are a few things we can do in the interim. Once the Star gets underway, we can speed up the timeline to assist the Northerners in heading South. I think that Estelyn and Nerindel need to discuss what direction the Wyrma contingent are going to move in. I am available to discuss this issue as are Pio and Child, I'm sure. Some brainstorming will be needed there. __________________ Beleriand, Beleriand, the borders of the Elven-land.

04-01-2004, 01:06 PM	#137
Ealasaide Shadow of Tyrn Gorthad Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Fencing Lyst Posts: 810	Okay - I will continue to wait

04-01-2004, 01:06 PM	#138
piosenniel Desultory Dwimmerlaik Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Pickin' flowers with Bill the Cat..... Posts: 7,779	I am available to discuss any issue - here or by PM. And willing to pick up another character if needed to get us going. In the meantime, Cami, I am in the midst of a further introspective post ~*~ Pio

04-01-2004, 01:13 PM	#139
Ealasaide Shadow of Tyrn Gorthad Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Fencing Lyst Posts: 810	I, too, am available to pick up an additional character at any point along the way. At this stage, I think I am the only one writing just one character.

04-01-2004, 08:44 PM	#140
Hilde Bracegirdle Relic of Wandering Days Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: You'll See Perpetual Change. Posts: 1,480	Ah, leave the Barrow Downs for a few hours and such a flurry when you return! Hilde is still on board with pen in hand, pondering events in the desert evening.

04-02-2004, 01:05 PM	#141
Nerindel Spirited Weaver of Fates Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: In an endless sea of dreams! Posts: 827	ok Everyone, sorry for holding things up! As Ealasaide has told you I've had a very busy schedule this week. but I'm free tonight and all yours. __________________ "Don't part with your illusions. When they are gone you may still exist, but you have ceased to live" ~ Mark Twain.

04-05-2004, 03:31 AM	#143
piosenniel Desultory Dwimmerlaik Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Pickin' flowers with Bill the Cat..... Posts: 7,779	Hmmmm . . . and how is Aiwendil going to allay the suspicions of the Eagle clan when he and Rôg show up on their trusty steed? __________________ Eldest, that’s what I am . . . I knew the dark under the stars when it was fearless - before the Dark Lord came from Outside.

04-05-2004, 06:29 AM	#144
Child of the 7th Age Spirit of the Lonely Star Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 5,133	Whoops! I hadn't thought of that little plot twist, especially seeing that Rôg will probably be recognized and his earlier entry virtualy coincided with the appearance of the assassin. Child P.S. At least he hasn't been in Umbar recently! __________________ Multitasking women are never too busy to vote.

04-05-2004, 10:16 AM	#145
Hilde Bracegirdle Relic of Wandering Days Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: You'll See Perpetual Change. Posts: 1,480	I think between Surinen and Thorn, they will figure the assassin wasn't likely Rog or Aiwendel...(if Narika doesn't slay them before Thorn arrives!). Thorn is due to arrive in camp in the late evening/early morning hours, I don't know if this is before Aiwendel and Rog show up. If not, it would appear things might get a little exciting for them! I have a post for Thorn waiting that touches on this and have planned to have Surinen and Thorn discuss it after that in Surinen's post. Feel free to have Surinen plead their case meanwhile, he is suspicious of Rog but doesn't think badly of him, and once he talks to Thorn he should calm down quite a bit more. Narayad on the other hand might be a different story.

04-05-2004, 01:26 PM	#146
Estelyn Telcontar Princess of Skwerlz Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: where the Sea is eastwards (WtR: 6060 miles) Posts: 7,500	I would indeed appreciate some brainstorming for long-term strategies - it's difficult to plan for Wyrma without knowing where the story is going. If the action leaves the city and she's stuck there in Falasmir's court, she needs to have something to do there. I do have some ideas for the immediate future, but am having trouble thinking beyond that. __________________ 'Mercy!' cried Gandalf. 'If the giving of information is to be the cure of your inquisitiveness, I shall spend all the rest of my days in answering you. What more do you want to know?' 'The whole history of Middle-earth...'

04-05-2004, 02:03 PM	#147
Hilde Bracegirdle Relic of Wandering Days Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: You'll See Perpetual Change. Posts: 1,480	Yes, I agree. I was kind of wondering what her position regarding the Eagle clan was exactly. I do realize she has an evident grudge against Ayar, but was it for some incident or for her refusal to lead her clan into the fold.

04-05-2004, 03:14 PM	#148
Estelyn Telcontar Princess of Skwerlz Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: where the Sea is eastwards (WtR: 6060 miles) Posts: 7,500	Well, on the surface, it's the latter reason, but who knows? We may find out that the differences go back farther... __________________ 'Mercy!' cried Gandalf. 'If the giving of information is to be the cure of your inquisitiveness, I shall spend all the rest of my days in answering you. What more do you want to know?' 'The whole history of Middle-earth...'

04-05-2004, 05:53 PM	#149
Child of the 7th Age Spirit of the Lonely Star Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 5,133	Esty, I am busy through Tuesday night and won't be on much, but after that my schedule opens up. I think the need for brainstorming is even wider than Wyrma. As far as I know, we had only hammered out the "details" for the rebels down to the point that all the "good" characters joined up at the Eagle clan and Ayar died. These characters include Mith and Airefalas, Aiwendil and Rôg, Pio and Baran, plus all the assorted Eagles. We probably need to get some idea of what the "good" folk will be focusing on next in order to tell what Wyrma and the other baddies should be doing (and vice versa as well). Pio, Mith, if I've forgotten something specific about the immediate plot beyond what I've said, please remind me.... Also, how does the absent Bird (as a character) fit into this....? BTW, does Wyrma "have to" stay in Umbar? Might there not be some compelling reason or lure that would cause her to leave: either chasing after her enemies or perhaps going out to find something/someone that would gain her side some advantage. For all I know, both sides could be chasing after something.--Bird or something else. Whatever we do, I would prefer that the major characters be in general physical proximity or at least be focusing on one particular goal. Otherwise, we get isolated subplots that can be a problem to push forward. Child __________________ Multitasking women are never too busy to vote.

04-06-2004, 05:34 PM	#150
*Mithadan* Spirit of Mist Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Tol Eressea Posts: 3,380	Mithadan has told his tale. It may cause Korpulfr to ask some questions...or not. __________________ Beleriand, Beleriand, the borders of the Elven-land.

04-07-2004, 08:50 AM	#151
Nerindel Spirited Weaver of Fates Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: In an endless sea of dreams! Posts: 827	ok Mith you've arroused Kor's couriousity and he wants to know more of this Bird and why she would look for her kin in the southlands. Esty are you wanting to post something for Tinar before we finish up? __________________ "Don't part with your illusions. When they are gone you may still exist, but you have ceased to live" ~ Mark Twain.

04-08-2004, 07:57 AM	#152
Ealasaide Shadow of Tyrn Gorthad Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Fencing Lyst Posts: 810	Ah, yikes! Many apologies for the absence of myself and Airefalas... I see a lot has been happening. I subscribed to the threads, but had not received any e-mail alerts regarding the activity, so I was not aware that anything new had been posted. Henceforth, I will not rely on subscription alerts... I have a lot of reading to do to get caught up again!!! Once I do that, I will get to work on a post.

04-08-2004, 10:44 AM	#153
piosenniel Desultory Dwimmerlaik Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Pickin' flowers with Bill the Cat..... Posts: 7,779	Making the timelines congruent The action in Gondor had been behind by a number of weeks (I drew out a timeline and plotted all the separate events). So, tomorrow I’ll have a post up that brings the Gondor contingent up to the same time as the evening meal at Korpulfr’s in Umbar. __________________ Eldest, that’s what I am . . . I knew the dark under the stars when it was fearless - before the Dark Lord came from Outside. Last edited by piosenniel; 04-09-2004 at 02:24 AM.

04-09-2004, 02:23 AM	#154
piosenniel Desultory Dwimmerlaik Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Pickin' flowers with Bill the Cat..... Posts: 7,779	Mith Can you bring Pio and Baran current with the happenings in Umbar? I’ve placed them meeting in the Inn 2 weeks prior to the party/reception at the Hall of Feasts (Merethrond) the King has planned for the new traders from Rhûn, Khand, and Near Harad and some of the prominent merchant families from Gondor. Pio would like to invite Baran to accompany her. Go ahead and use my character as needed. She can introduce him to the King and others at the party. Many of whom I’m sure will grumble at the presence of a Shapechanger in Minas Tirith and even more so, one at the King’s party. If you can get us through the bulk of the party from Baran’s viewpoint that would be great. I’d planned for the King’s party to take place the same night as the dinner in Umbar with Mithadan and Airefalas at Korpulfr’s. Please also check your email. ~~ Pio __________________ Eldest, that’s what I am . . . I knew the dark under the stars when it was fearless - before the Dark Lord came from Outside. Last edited by piosenniel; 04-09-2004 at 02:54 AM.*

04-12-2004, 11:49 AM	#155
Estelyn Telcontar Princess of Skwerlz Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: where the Sea is eastwards (WtR: 6060 miles) Posts: 7,500	I moved my save for Tinar to be after Ealasaide's post - it will be filled by tomorrow. Sorry, but family visiting for Easter kept me from writing over the weekend... __________________ 'Mercy!' cried Gandalf. 'If the giving of information is to be the cure of your inquisitiveness, I shall spend all the rest of my days in answering you. What more do you want to know?' 'The whole history of Middle-earth...'

04-12-2004, 12:17 PM	#156
piosenniel Desultory Dwimmerlaik Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Pickin' flowers with Bill the Cat..... Posts: 7,779	Alrighty then, the Gondor contingent is at last current with the time in Umbar.

04-13-2004, 11:13 AM	#157
Nerindel Spirited Weaver of Fates Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: In an endless sea of dreams! Posts: 827	The save I have up is not for Korpulfr, but for my eagle character. I hope to have it filled sometime tomorrow. __________________ "Don't part with your illusions. When they are gone you may still exist, but you have ceased to live" ~ Mark Twain.