T-I-G LXVII: The Rangers of the North - The Fell Winter

[Boromir88]

Call it a hunch, but I think she'd make a good Night One kill.~sally

Call it a hunch, but I think Val's suspicious...i.e. is a wolf.

and Fea....so we are YOUR lambs are we?~Val

Did you expect Fea to declare "I'm a wolf. HOOWWWWL"...Does this ring a bell Valier?

[Inziladun]

Originally Posted by Legate of Amon Lanc

May I ask how it is related? I.e. why would you want to vote Boro as NG, if he seems weird to you?

Simple: he seems a bit different, but not necessarily wolfish. If he's innocent (and I've no reason as of now to think he isn't) he's as good a choice as any.

Originally Posted by Boromir88

This merely wasn't for jumping through a hoop for me in answering a question. I've had a very nice read on Inzil's past behavior as a wolf and he's not triggering any wolvish feeling. He's skilled enough to adapt, but I would like him protected.

All right, here you go.

++NG Boro

I want to give Captain a bit more thought.

[Valier]

Originally Posted by Boro

Did you expect Fea to declare "I'm a wolf. HOOWWWWL"...Does this ring a bell Valier?

It does sound familiar...and I was only mostly joking around. I thought her wording was odd is all.
And may I ask why you think I'm suspisious? Just a hutch? or do you have some reasoning to your hunch?

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by A Little Green

By the way, what happens if there is a tie in Captain votes? Noggers?

In case of a draw the first one to gain the votes will be the captain. That goes with the NG's as well...

Sorry. I had totally forgotten to add that to the rules. *goes to do that*

PS. I have already added the point that NG's can't perform their possible gifts during the Night... (as the NG and the BG kind of join forces when their number goes down I had just thought it was clear the same rules applied to both guard-roles - but at least it should be clear now)

[Roa_Aoife]

Originally Posted by Rune Son of Bjarne

So do you actually think that the wolves should be found amongst the silent people or was it just a feeling?

I wouldn't be surprised if a wolf decided to hide in the quiet in this village, but it's only a feeling, not any sort of proof. I am trying to comb through everyone and find good reason to lynch someone, but I haven't got much to work with and that frustrates me. As I told Legate, quiet players are my blind spot, so this game feels like I'm shooting in the dark.

But since you're here (and presumably sober), I did find your reasoning for being captain (ie trustworthiness and people skills) to be questionable. Can you clear it up?

I can see that you fear that the role as captain can damage the village. I know that today we have to elect a captain, but maybe it would be smart to have a talk about wether we want anybody to be in that position of power later on.

I was thinking along these lines as well.

Of course we should not lynch people just because they are being helpful, that would be stupid indeed, but I do think there is some merit to Valiers theory. We should be on the lookout for relatively helpful people, that post a fair amount and seem helpful, but don't produce much. Like if people make very detailed posts about what others have said, but never really conclude anything.

Have someone in mind?

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

Roa- if I had any idea who I was going to vote for, I'd tell you (probably).

I'm almost certain I'm not actually going to be around for today's deadline. Now that I've eaten a meal and a half, I've remembered that Tuesdays are gym days and if I'm going, I won't be back until about an hour after deadline.

So...

Expect an early vote from me, once I decide.

[Roa_Aoife]

++Brinniel for Guard

'Cause if I was a wolf, I'd kill her.

[Nerwen]

You know the basic problem here? Anyone who would make a really good Captain would also make a really good Were-Captain. It's not an easy choice.

However–

++Roa for Captain.

Because she's been making the most sense out of anyone, and isn't giving me wolf-vibes. (I did consider Rune, who wants the job and who I don't think is a wolf, but I believe Roa has better leadership qualities.)

++Guard Kath.

Because 3 out of 5 lupine conferences on Night Two contain the phrase, "I know, let's kill Kath!"

EDIT:X'd since Greenie.

[Valier]

Well I must say I really don't like the power the Captain has. I don't think I want to give Roa or Boro that power today, since they seem quite talkative and seem to have at least some power with their words in that way. So it's either Rune or Legate... not sure yet who. and the NG is still up in the air for me.

[Boromir88]

Originally Posted by Valier

It does sound familiar...and I was only mostly joking around. I thought her wording was odd is all.
And may I ask why you think I'm suspisious? Just a hutch? or do you have some reasoning to your hunch?

Mostly a hunch, that is a hutchy hunch...Your first post of the day "Oh no! Nog! Wolves!" and in general a light, joking, playful "lol"ing attitude throughout the day. Very bad reasons? Probably. Has anyone had any decent reasons? Maybe Roa, I think I do now.

The problem is no one is suspecting anyone, and mostly the discussion has been either around Fea and me, which has mostly been people selectively defending Fea and me. We need more suspicions than just letting Roa do all the work. Therefor, I conclude. I suspect you on hunchy, poor reasoning.

[Roa_Aoife]

Sally

Post 1- says we should vote her for captain because she doesn’t have time, says she’ll be back later

Post 2- confusion in response to Rune’s post

Post 3- silly response to Boromir’s quote contest

Post 4- List who won’t get her vote and why: Rune-weird, Lottie- new, Hakon- weird, Fea- Fea

(First helpful post, but she doesn’t expand in the idea- she finds Hakon and Rune “weird” but doesn’t try to move on it, and I wonder why not?)

Post 5- accepts Hakon’s explanation, but still thinks it’s weird

(Again, doesn’t try to move forward on her suspicion. Let’s be honest, calling someone weird in this game is a way of saying they’re suspicious without saying they’re suspicious, so why isn’t she looking into it?)

Post 6- Still thinks Hakon’s “weird”

Post 7- Likes Nienna’s summary, thinks I should keep in mind that Kath tends to be quiet, clarifies what we need to vote on.

Post 8- votes Val for guard and Legate for captain

(No word on her suspicions from earlier. What happened?)

And people, I know the captain vote is important, but we are still wolf hunting here.

[A Little Green]

Originally Posted by Roa

I wouldn't be surprised if a wolf decided to hide in the quiet in this village, but it's only a feeling, not any sort of proof.

The interesting thing is that I've never played in a game where a wolf decided to hide in the quiet. According to my experience, if a wolf is quiet, it tends to be because s/he is a quiet player in general, not because s/he thinks hiding in the quiet is a good strategy.


EDIT: x-ed with Boro and Roa

[Roa_Aoife]

Originally Posted by Boromir88

Mostly a hunch, that is a hutchy hunch...Your first post of the day "Oh no! Nog! Wolves!" and in general a light, joking, playful "lol"ing attitude throughout the day. Very bad reasons? Probably. Has anyone had any decent reasons? Maybe Roa, I think I do now.

The majority of your first posts were playful and silly.

The problem is no one is suspecting anyone, and mostly the discussion has been either around Fea and me, which has mostly been people selectively defending Fea and me. We need more suspicions than just letting Roa do all the work. Therefor, I conclude. I suspect you on hunchy, poor reasoning.

Then you do some work. *quits* (not really)

At this moment, not only do I suspect Boromir, but I also suspect Hakon (cause his first post was indeed "weird"). I usually like to have a top three, but after this it's all me being mostly irritable in such a quiet place.

[satansaloser2005]

Fair point, Boro. I've been lupine with Val (not in this game, obviously) and I know she's clever but if she's innocent she's a likely kill, at least in my mind.

And I totally forgot Brinn was playing, or I'd have considered her for Night Guarding too. *headdesks*

Yeah, I'm totally busy right now. Cleaning out my desk (because it's dirty, for reference). I'll never be on the thread again.

[Valier]

well might as well start my decisions.

++Rune for Captain


he seems to me to be the best choice....for today neways, I wanna see how he does.

[A Little Green]

A sidenote: I'll be letting Lommy use the Internet now, which means I probably won't be around in an hour or two. I'll definitely be back, though.


EDIT: x-ed with Roa, Sally and Valier

[Nerwen]

Valier, votes for the Captain and Night Guard have to be highlighted.

[Valier]

how the heck do I hilight? do i just write highlight before and after the name?

Edit: lol never mind I got it

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

Originally Posted by Roa_Aoife

I wouldn't be surprised if a wolf decided to hide in the quiet in this village, but it's only a feeling, not any sort of proof. I am trying to comb through everyone and find good reason to lynch someone, but I haven't got much to work with and that frustrates me. As I told Legate, quiet players are my blind spot, so this game feels like I'm shooting in the dark.

But since you're here (and presumably sober), I did find your reasoning for being captain (ie trustworthiness and people skills) to be questionable. Can you clear it up?

No I don't think so.

I think I am as capable for this role as anybody else and I actually enjoy being in a possition of power, even if it can make me a bit nervouse.

Personally I think wanting it for fun is just as valid a reason as somebody being a skillful wolf-hunter.

btw, can you vote for your self?

Originally Posted by Roa_Aoife

Have someone in mind?

No it was a genneral comment.

So far it is only you and Legate that has said anything that pussled me, I don't have anything based on actual theories of behavior yet.

Originally Posted by Nerwen

You know the basic problem here? Anyone who would make a really good Captain would also make a really good Were-Captain. It's not an easy choice.

However–

++Roa for Captain.

Because she's been making the most sense out of anyone, and isn't giving me wolf-vibes. (I did consider Rune, who wants the job and who I don't think is a wolf, but I believe Roa has better leadership qualities.)

++Guard Kath.

Because 3 out of 5 lupine conferences on Night Two contain the phrase, "I know, let's kill Kath!"

EDIT:X'd since Greenie.

I don't like you anymore. . .


Anyways I need to go deliver a suitcase to my sister (she is leaving for Rome) so I cannot stay as long as I thought. It means that I will be voting in a few moments.

[Inziladun]

Originally Posted by Valier

how the heck do I hilight? do i just write highlight before and after the name?

[ highlight ] TEXT [ /highlight ]

With no spaces.

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by Valier

how the heck do I hilight? do i just write highlight before and after the name?

You just need the '/' in front of the second 'highlight', Val. That's all.

[Roa_Aoife]

Sally, what became of your suspicion of Hakon?

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by Roa_Aoife

At this moment, not only do I suspect Boromir, but I also suspect Hakon (cause his first post was indeed "weird").

Hakon is a bit "weird", though, you know.

EDIT:X'd with Roa.

[Boromir88]

[QUOTE=Roa_Aoife;611199]The majority of your first posts were playful and silly.[QUOTE]
But out of Val's first 10 posts I looked at the vast majority of them contained some sort of "lol," laughter joking, and as she just admitted her comment to Legate and to Fea were both mostly joking. A bit excessive amount of playful silliness for my liking.

Then you do some work. *quits* (not really)

My point is Roa, I'm trying to get you to relax yourself, because we all can't analyse like you, nor do all of us have the time during the day phases to seriously think and analyze everyone.

You're really going to tell me to do it? I have been, I've named the people I like to stay around, and I did it also with my votes. I've also named the people I suspect. You may not like the way I do it, you may not like the fact that I'm not being a careful analyzer, but the fact is I'm doing it, and separate that from you just not liking the way I am doing it.

[Roa_Aoife]

Originally Posted by Nerwen

Hakon is a bit "weird", though, you know.

EDIT:X'd since Sally.

No, I don't. Never played with him before. But Nilp was weird too, and it didn't stop him from getting lynched, nor did being a wolf make him less weird.

[Loslote]

Okay, I'm here for like a second...

++ Captain Rune

++ Guard Boro

[Valier]

But I must point out Boro, I AM a bit silly and light hearted, just like you ARE always a bit of an aggressive pain the first day. Which is why today I don't think you are a wolf.

[Inziladun]

Originally Posted by Nerwen

Hakon is a bit "weird", though, you know.

He has been known to make strange comments as an innocent. Still, he may get my vote unless something more concrete reveals itself.

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by Roa_Aoife

No, I don't. Never played with him before. But Nilp was weird too, and it didn't stop him from getting lynched, nor did being a wolf make him less weird.

Well, that's true, and he has to be a wolf eventually. I'd have thought, though, that if Hakon were a wolf his packmates would have advised him against doing what he did.

Could be a ploy, I suppose.

EDIT:X'd since Roa.

[Boromir88]

Originally Posted by Valier

But I must point out Boro, I AM a bit silly and light hearted, just like you ARE always a bit of an aggressive pain the first day. Which is why today I don't think you are a wolf.

Very true.

[Roa_Aoife]

Originally Posted by Boromir88

My point is Roa, I'm trying to get you to relax yourself, because we all can't analyse like you, nor do all of us have the time during the day phases to seriously think and analyze everyone.

You're really going to tell me to do it? I have been, I've named the people I like to stay around, and I did it also with my votes. I've also named the people I suspect. You may not like the way I do it, you may not like the fact that I'm not being a careful analyzer, but the fact is I'm doing it, and separate that from you just not liking the way I am doing it.

Sorry, I didn't mean that seriously. I am well known for being the analyzer (see sig) and I don't expect anyone to do it like I do. Your votes and posts have made your views quite clear. I have no problem with your methods, even if I don't agree with your reasons.

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by Loslote

Okay, I'm here for like a second...

Captain Rune

Guard Boro

Lottie, you need to put two plus signs before your votes or they won't count. Just to let you know.

[Roa_Aoife]

Well, I most definitely do not trust Rune enough to make him captain. So

++Legate Captain

Loslote, care to explain?

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

++Valier Guard

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

Lottie, you need to put two plus signs before your votes or they won't count. Just to let you know.

I will be counting the votes when the intent is clear enough (with the pointing of "captain" & "guard" there should be no doubt as to what she meant). So no problem with those if she is away.

But she should make it the next time (or correct them if still online). Let's stick to rules but let's not stumble on formalities.

Talking of votes as I am... just in courtesy of the mod as I have kept a list of these thus far:

Captaincy:
Boro -> Rune
Sally -> Legate
Greenie -> Legate
Nerwen -> Roa
Valier -> Rune
Loslote -> Rune (3)
Roa -> Legate (3)

NG:
Boro -> Inzil
Sally -> Valier
Inzil -> Boro
Roa -> Brinn
Nerwen -> Kath
Loslote -> Boro (2)
Rune -> Valier (2)

Lynch:
none so far

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

++Rune Captain

(I know it is bad form to vote for your self, but I really want it)

++Legate

I haven't seen anything truly susppicous, but Legate seemed slightly different from his innocent self and his post often left me confused. (what sense does that make, why does he write that?)

Now I should be back before deadline, but better safe than sorry right?

[Roa_Aoife]

Rune, Valier, Loslote, and Boro seem to have a thing going on.

[Nienna]

Sally vote count?

Edit: haha jk thanks Nog

[Roa_Aoife]

++Rune

Because I'm starting to see a pattern and it alarms me.

What makes anyone think Boro is in danger tonight and should be made NG?

[Nerwen]

I have to go so–

++Lynch Boro.

For making too much of the Fea business... could be an attempt to cast suspicion on an innocent. Or not– this is of course the usual feeble Day One vote. I just don't really know who else to vote, except maybe Hakon, and... well, dodgy as that post of his looked, anyone who played with him in the last game should understand my reservations.

Edit:X'd since Nogrod.