The Tol-in-Gaurhoth Grimoire

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

I'm curious: Has anyone ever modded a game & then wished they hadn't afterwards? Because of the time commitment, because it was more challenging then they expected, because of any reason at all? (TOREstel)

Well, I modded a game at the wrong time--it was finals week on the semester I planned to ace all of my subjects (aced only 3/4, depressing)--so some of the death posts (mostly lynch posts) were not as well as I had hoped. *coughcoughI'mreallysorryKatherine* Some, though, were quite better than I expected (the last-minute 'Freud to death' post for Celuien was one of them).

*shrugs* Oh, well. Over all, it was a fun experience. I want to do it again.

[The Only Real Estel]

Originally Posted by Diamond18

When are you [TORE] going to be playing again, btw? I was thinking of PMing you about my game, but then it filled up much to my surprise so I kind of chucked my "people to PM" list.

I'd say the summer is a good target date (preferably early summer). Hopefully this summer I'll get to play in at least a couple games and mod one also. So I should be updating my stats in here.

Should be fun.

[Lhunardawen]

Originally Posted by The Only Real Estel

I'd say the summer is a good target date (preferably early summer). Hopefully this summer I'll get to play in at least a couple games and mod one also. So I should be updating my stats in here.

Should be fun.

*jumps up and down*

[Roa_Aoife]

Yay! My turn, my turn! (leaving out the current game, I'll come back and fix it after Farael's game. And Diamond's game. And LMP's game. Hi, My name is Roa, and I'm a werewolf addict.....)

# of Games: 5 (WWJ III, WWJ IV, WWJ V, WWJ VII, WW XX)
Villager: 2
Seer: 1
Wolf: 2
Survived till end: 2
Lynched: 2 (I assign Nogrod as a seer to Mordor. That was rotten luck.)
Killed by wolves: 1
On winning team: 4/5 (80%)
On losing team: 1/5 (20%)

I'm not too bad of a player, but I think I make a better wolf than anything else. I have such a horrible time spotting wolves as an innocent.

[Lhunardawen]

On winning team: 4/4 (100%)

Now that's an impressive percentage. Maybe Esty would be inspired to push her luck further with this... *hint hint*

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Very impressive indeed!

[Kuruharan]

The Three have won 1, 2, 3, 5, 7, 9, 10, 11, 13, 14, and 18=11.

The Ordos have won 4, 6, 8, 12, 15, 17, 19, and 20=8.

The Black Beornings have not won.

The Lovers have not won.

A Tie occurred in 16=1.

The villagers have finally (nearly a year into it) won two games in a row! Io!!!

[Diamond18]

And if you count the Junior games, the villagers are on an even more impressive winning streak. Streakin'!

[JennyHallu]

Games: WWJ IV, WWJ V, WWJ VI, WW XX
Modded: 0
Ordinary Villager: 2
Hunter: 0
Ranger: 0
Cobbler: 0
Wolf: 2 (1 orc)
Seer: 0

On winning team: 1 out of 4 (25%)
On losing team: 3 out of 4 (75%)
Survived to end: 1 out of 4

Notes:

WWJ IV: was suspected the whole time, was completely wrong in all my analyses. First games can sure suck, huh?

WWJ V: was never suspected, (even when it was down to two possibles and a seer's dream ), nominated for rehabilitation, but it was turned down by a mod. (Who had the ghosted other wolves give me a traitor's death for asking.)

WWJ VI: I was right! Whoo-hoo! Accidentally engineered the third wolf's death--on day three. Whoops!

WW XX: Mean ol' Shaman outed me Day 2. And I LOVE being evil! I'm good at it!!
__________________

[Kuruharan]

And if you count the Junior games

I don't.

[Glirdan]

Played in - IX, X, XIII, XV, XVII, XVIII, XIX, J II, J VII, XX

Number of games: 10
Modded: 2 (J I, J III)
Ordinary Villager: 8
Werewolf Hunter: 1
Ranger: 0
Shirriff: 0
Cobbler: 0
Werewolf: 0
Black Beorning: 1
Lover: 0
False Seer: 0
Cursed: 0

On winning team: 5
On losing team: 5
Survived to end: 2
Lynched: 6
Killed by Wolves/Heroes: 0
Double Lynched:4
Mass Lynched: 0

I could go through all the games I've been in, but it'd take to long to go back and do that. So, I'll leave it as it is for the time being.

[Glirdan]

Link

Moderator - Farael
Co - Moderator - Folwren
Wereorcs - JennyHallu, Caranlondien, Roa_Aofie
Shaman - Naria
Ranger - Zali
Innocents - Glirdan, Kitanna, Dancing spawn, Legolas in spandex, Diamond18, Nogrod, Grendelien, Sleepy Ranger, Celuien,

Order of Death
FaraelMod: He dyed… erm I mean died.
GlirdanRepentant werewolf : Choked on an apple. No wonder why werewolves are carnivores.
JennyHalluWereorc: Escaped the village, but could not escape the laws of physics.
Dancing Spawn...: Just a merchant: Trapped on a deathly spider’s web.
Kitanna:The town's gate-keeper: Had a lobotomy performed by an angry woodpecker.
Legolas in spandex: Legolass (A movie-Legolas impersonator): Overwhelmed and or frightened into leaving the village after seeing what had happened to Kitanna
Diamond: Simply a normal, very bad stone cutter - scared to death by orcs
Findëasëa: paleo-elf-tropologist: Lynched by a small margin.
Zali: stringer-of-bows (I owe you a death scene, I’ll do it as soon as I can)
Roa_Aoife aspiring ballad writer Shot down by Zali while trying to flee hanging
Caranlondien: aspiring harpist: Tricked by a weredoor. I bet that Sauron was wishing he had more palantir available to communicate with his lieutenants.

Result: Village victory (Naria, Nogrod, Grendelien, Sleepy Ranger and Celuien surviving).

[Nogrod]

Games: 5 (WWJ IV, WWJ V, WWJ VI, WWJ VII + WW XX)
Modded: 0
Ordinary Villager: 3
Hunter: 0
Ranger: 1
Cobbler: 0
Wolf: 0
Seer: 1

On winning team: 4 out of 5 (80%)
On losing team: 1 out of 5 (20%)

Killed by wolves: 2 out of 5 (40%)
lynched: 0 out of 5 (0%)
survived till the end: 3 out of 5 (60%)

WWJ VI: My tongue was ripped off by certain nasty werecats during the first night. That game ended just too soon...

WW XX: There was some scheming in this one! The wereorcs just had too many of us to kill in time.

[Diamond18]

Originally Posted by Kuruharan

I don't.

*menacing tone*
Well you'd better start, Dwarf-boy.

[Roa_Aoife]

*dramatic sigh* My perfect record is ruined!

Went back and edited my last post...

[Diamond18]

LINK

Mod: Diamond18
Wereducks: Nilpaurion Felagund, dancing spawn of ungoliant, Kath
Cursed Villager/Secret Duck: JennyHallu
Owls: Mithalwen, Glirdan
Hawk: Anguirel
Nightingale: Lalaith
Goose: The Saucepan Man
Villagers: mormegil, Valier, Nogrod, Cailín, Roa_Aoife, Lote22, Elu Ancalime, Sleepy Ranger


Order of Death:

Diamond Took, the Halfling Poet ~ Villager ~ Pecked to death on Night 1
Nilpaurion Felagund the Elven Pigeon-Summoning Ninja ~ Wereduck ~ Waxed on, waxed off on Day 1
Dancing Spawn of Ungoliant the Spider Loving Orcish Astronaut ~ Wereduck ~ Stuffed full of spiders and choked to death on Day 2
Elu Ancalime the Didgeridoo Dwarf ~ Villager ~ Struck by Mod Fire from above on Day 2
Lalaith the Halfling Chubb Fuddler ~ Nightingale ~ Boiled, mashed, and cooked in a stew on Night 3
Roa Aoife the Batwoman ~ Villager ~ Not dead, but rejoined her regiment on Day 3
Sleepy Ranger the Exiled Jedi Master ~ Villager ~ Not dead, but departed with a droid on Day 3
JennyHallu the Halfling Mountaintop Guru ~ Wereduck ~ Pitchforked to death on Day 3
Anguirel the Baritone Bird Catcher ~ Hawk ~ Gunned down with an M16 on Night 4
Glirdan the Entish Tree Herder ~ Owl ~ Consumed by flames from the Hawk’s cigarette lighter on Night 4
Lote22 the Elven Igloo Maker ~ Villager ~ Encased in a block of ice on Day 4
Mithalwen the Elven Saggar Maker's Bottom Knocker ~ Owl ~ Melted down and made into pottery glaze on Night 5
Mormegil the Elven Idleman ~ Villager ~ Worked to death on Day 5
Valier the Dwarven Millet Spray Picker ~ Villager ~ Sucked dry by giant vampire mosquitoes from the black swamp on Night 6
Nogrod the Dwarven Personal Fitness Instructor ~ Villager ~ Beaten to death with dumbbells and various sundry fitness equipment on Day 6
Cailín the Bird-portraitist ~ Villager ~ Drowned in a bucket of magenta paint on Day 6

Result: Duck/Goose win (Quath and Saucepan Goose surviving)

[JennyHallu]

Games: WWJ IV, WWJ V, WWJ VI, WW XX, WWJ VIII
Modded: 0
Ordinary Villager: 2
Hunter: 0
Ranger: 0
Cobbler: 0
Wolf: 2 (1 orc)
Seer: 0
Cursed Villager: 1 (turned to a Duck on Night 2)

On winning team: 2 out of 5 (40%)
On losing team: 3 out of 5 (60%)
Survived to end: 1 out of 5

Notes:

WWJ IV: was suspected the whole time, was completely wrong in all my analyses. First games can sure suck, huh?

WWJ V: was never suspected, (even when it was down to two possibles and a seer's dream ), nominated for rehabilitation, but it was turned down by a mod. (Who had the ghosted other wolves give me a traitor's death for asking.)

WWJ VI: I was right! Whoo-hoo! Accidentally engineered the third wolf's death--on day three. Whoops!

WW XX: Mean ol' Shaman outed me Day 2. And I LOVE being evil! I'm good at it!!

WWJ VIII: Ok, so I was really actually looking forward to being innocent for a while and cool down some of my automatic suspicion. But...alas, 'twas not to be! Bandwaggonned by an errant Goose, who went on to help us win. (Therefore, Saucy is forgiven.)

[the phantom]

Now, the Phantom was not. He claimed, if I recollect correctly, to have looked at his player's list and picked the three best Werewolf candidates, in his opinion...

Kinda funny that the wolves win so often, yet in the game where they were supposedly 'stacked', they didn't.

No, WW XII was not stacked in favor of the wolves. Yes, I selected wolves that I thought would function well together, but if you remember I also did my best to choose gifteds that I thought would do well in their roles. The last thing I wanted was a stacked game. I wanted a great game- and I got it.

Now, my stats.

Number of Games: 7
Modded: 1
Ordinary: 2
Werewolf: 2
Seer: 1
Shirriff: 1

On winning team: 3 of 6
On losing team: 3 of 6
Survival to end: 2 of 6

Won as ordinary: 0 of 2
Won as gifted: 1 of 2
Won as wolf: 2 of 2
Survived as ordinary: 0 of 2
Survived as gifted: 0 of 2
Survived as wolf: 2 of 2

Lynched: 1 of 6
Killed by wolves: 3 of 6

Killed by wolves on Night 4: 1
Lynched on Day 3: 1
Killed by wolves on Night 3 2

As a Wolf...
Killed seer on: Night 2 & Night 3
Killed Ranger on: Night 2 & Left him alive
Killed Hunter on: Left him alive both times
Number of votes received throughout game: WW II 3 votes all on Day 1, WW X 0 votes (ha ha!)

[The Saucepan Man]

Number of games: 11
Modded: 1
Ordinary Villager: 6
Werewolf Hunter: 1
Cobbler/Goose: 2
Werewolf: 1

On winning team: 4 out of 10 (as Hunter, Ordo, Werewolf and Goose)
On losing team: 6 out of 10 (5 as Ordo, 1 as Cobbler)
Survived to end: 4 out of 10 (in each of my winning games)

Lynched: 1
Killed by Wolves/Heroes: 5
Survived: 4

Win to lose ratio still below 50:50 but, after a miserable start to my Werewolf career, I have now been on the winning side for three games on the trot.

And I have suffered the indignity of being lynched only once in 10 games.

[Nogrod]

One more update: the statistics falling down...

Games: 6
(WWJ IV, WWJ V, WWJ VI, WWJ VII, WWJ VIII + WW XX)

Modded: 0
Ordinary Villager: 4
Hunter: 0
Ranger: 1
Cobbler: 0
Wolf: 0
Seer: 1

On winning team: 4 out of 6
On losing team: 2 out of 6

Killed by wolves: 2 out of 6
lynched: 1 out of 6
survived till the end: 3 out of 6

WWJ VIII: Diamod's nasty (but fun) surprises ended me with being lynched by the votes of the duck (wolf) and the goose (cobbler), when only four people were remaining. How nasty a way to lose one's "never lynched" column!

[Glirdan]

Played in - IX, X, XIII, XV, XVII, XVIII, XIX, J II, J VII, XX, J VIII

Number of games: 11
Modded: 2 (J I, J III)
Ordinary Villager: 8
Werewolf Hunter: 1
Ranger: 0
Shirriff: 0
Cobbler: 0
Werewolf: 0
Black Beorning: 1
Lover: 0
False Seer: 0
Cursed: 0
Seer: 1

On winning team: 5
On losing team: 6
Survived to end: 2
Lynched: 6
Killed by Wolves/Heroes: 1
Double Lynched:4
Mass Lynched: 0

[Diamond18]

I guess I'll get in on the stats fun:

Games played in: 3 -- JVI, JVII, TiGXX

Games modded: 1 -- JVIII

Ordo: 2
Taker: (Hunter) 1
Everything else: 0

On winning team: 3/3 (100%)

JVI: Stumbled around as a newbie, constantly befuddled because people called me quiet and I felt rather loud. Was nearly lynched on the third day but survived by flip-flopping my votes 3 times and got to strangle the last werewolf with her own cane. Bwa ha ha ha.

JVII: Was the Taker, and killed the Seer in an amazing display of tunnel vision.

TIGXX: Nearly lynched on day 1 for too many in character posts followed by oversleeping for a scandoulously long time so that I wasn't around for most of the day. Managed to talk my way out of it, figured out who one of the orcs were, then did some terribley wrong analysis (implicating, who else, the shaman as one of my main suspects) and eventually got killed at night by the other two orcs.

JVIII: Modded, and managed to confuse, confound, and confuddle a large amount of people.

[Lhunardawen]

Originally Posted by Di

On winning team: 3/3 (100%)

Look, Eomer dear...another impressive percentage!

[Lalaith]

Mine's just gone down to 66%...

Maybe I should follow Kuru's example and just not count Junior games....although WWJ VIII was about as "senior" a game as I've experienced....

[Kath]

Updating time it seems. I think my record will be about the same

WW 4 - Ranger - lynched Day 1 - villagers won (victory).
WW 5 - Mythomaniac turned wolf - survived - wolves won (victory).
WW 6 - Ranger - killed Night 2 - villagers won (victory).
WW 7 - Seer - killed Night 6 - wolves won (loss).
WW 9 - Ordo - lynched Day 6 - wolves won (loss).
WW 13 - Ordo - killed Night 3 - wolves won (loss).
WW 14 - Ordo - lynched Day 5 - wolves won (loss).
WW 15 - Ordo (wolf) - survived - wolves/ordos won (victory).
WW 16 - Cobbler - killed Night 2 - wolves won but draw agreed (victory).
WW 17 - Ordo - lynched Day 6 - villagers won (victory).
WW 18 - Ordo - killed by Hunter Night 6 - wolves won (loss).
WW 19 - Werewolf - killed by the Lovers Day 3 - villagers won (loss).

WWJ 3 - Ordo - lynched Day 5 - villagers won (victory).
WWJ 7 - Ranger - killed Night 5 - villagers won (victory).
WWJ 8 - Wereduck - survived - Ducks won (victory).

Games played: 15

Victories: 9/15
Losses: 6/15

Lynched: 5/15
Killed by wolves: 5/15
Killed by some other means: 2/15
Survived: 3/15

[Lhunardawen]

Originally Posted by Kath

WW 19 - Werewolf - killed by the Lovers Day 3 - villagers won (loss). (underline mine)

Have we, now?

[Kath]

Have we, now?

I thought you did . . . perhaps I misinterpreted?

[Lhunardawen]

Originally Posted by Kath

I thought you did . . . perhaps I misinterpreted?

Well, it was Farael's fault...

[Diamond18]

I have a bit of stating fun for the TiG/WWJ games:


For the Junior games thus far:

The villagers have won 4 games.

The werecreatures have won 4 games.

The Seer, the Ranger, and the Hunter have survived only once each.


Comparing this to the Senior games as of TiG VIII:

The werewolves had won 5 games.

The villagers had won 3 games.

The Hunter survived three times.

The Seer survived once.


So it would seem the junior villages have had a slightly higher success rate, but the Senior Gifteds had a slightly higher survival rate.


Combining the two as one big happy Tol-in-Gaurhoth family up to this date:

The werecreatures have won 14 games.

The villagers have won 12 games.

Who cares about the overall Gifted survival rate. I don't.

[Roa_Aoife]

Wait, Diamond- in Sleepy's game I thought I at least two gifted survived till the end- myself (seer) and Nogrod (ranger). I don't remember who the hunter was that game, or whether they survived, though.

[Diamond18]

Sleepy's game isn't in the Grimoire so I don't know for sure what happened... but from what I gathered the village won and I thought someone commented that only Ordos survived. But that's secondhand info.

Edit: I have to edit that post anyway, as I see I only counted 7 TiG games. Stupid Roman Numerals. Blah.

[Roa_Aoife]

Nogrod and I survived as the ranger and the seer, and the villagers won that one. I believe it was WW V or VI.

[Valier]

Well I thought it was time to post my stats


Number of games: (7) ww16, ww17, ww19,
wwj3, wwj4, wwj7(mod), wwj8

Modded: 1
Ordinary Villager: 5
Cobbler/Goose: 0
Werewolf: 1
Seer:0
Ranger:0
Hunter:0



Lynched: 3
Killed by Wolves/Heroes: 3
Survived: 0

On winning side: 2-6
On losing side: 4-6

[Roa_Aoife]

Okay, Sleepy's game was a bit confusing at the end, because of the narration (which was really good. Technically, these were the stats, though Sleepy may have to come in and correct them:

WWJ V- The Broken Souls
Mod: Sleepy
Werewolves: Jenny, THE Ka, Enca
Seers: Holbytlass, Roa
Hunter: Eonwe
Ranger: Nogrod
Winners: Villagers (sort of)

Alive

Roa_Aoife(Seer) - Babysitter, the blonde, large chested one that always runs upstairs when she should be running out of the house
Nogrod(Ranger) - Post-Structuralist musician
Thinlomien(ii) - Sculpter specialiazing in making nightmarish birds.
Anguirel - Herald at arms
Eonwe - (Hunter) Gold Miner
Valesse(i) - Poultry gender analysist

Dead

Sleepy Ranger (mod) - Impaled on a cupid's arrow with his head nearly cut off.
THE Ka (werewolf) - Moreish Pavlovian Psychologist - Had her legs cut off.
Littlemanpoet (innocent) - Traveling minstrel/bard - Had an eye gouged out and his hair ripped off.
Valier (innocent) - Cruel Duchess - Had her back snapped and wept tears of blood till death.
Witch_Queen (innocent) - Homeless guy - Died due to loss of too much blood through vomitting.
Holbytlass (seer) - Governess
Encaitare (werewolf) - a scientist who specializes in analyzing small pebbles and other silly things
Naria (innocent) - Butcher
Gil-Galad (innocent) - Bell Ringer
JennyHallu (werewolf) - The friendly neighborhood nutcase waving a doomsday sign around


So all three gifted survived. However, with the extra element added by the Mod, anyone who aided in the death of an innocent villager got killed off after the last wolf was killed, so the only survivors were Ang and Eonwe. It was, however, purely narrational, as far as I understood it.

[Kath]

Well, it was Farael's fault...

Oh yes of course, it was Farael's fault that you told him I was a wolf.

[Gurthang]

Well, with another game around the bend, I think I'll update my stats.

Games in: IIX, XIV, XV, XVI, WWJI, WWJII, WWXIX

Number of games: 7
Modded: 0 (Sub-modded: 1, which I screwed up miserably.)
Ordinary Villager: 6
Werewolf Hunter: 0
Cobbler: 0
Werewolf: 0
Black Beorning: 1

On winning team: 3 out of 7
On losing team: 4 out of 7 (Technically, one of those was second place out of three. )
Survived to end: 2 out of 7

What I was:
Black Beorning: 1
Innocent: 6 (in a row )

What I did:
Killed mercilessly: 1
Acted rationally: 4
Implemented a far-fetched, no-shot-of-ever-working plan: 2

[Lhunardawen]

Originally Posted by Kath

Oh yes of course, it was Farael's fault that you told him I was a wolf.

Well, it was his fault that he chose to take you with me, instead of Form or Samwise.

[Oddwen]

Games played in : I, II, III, IV, V, VII, (modded) IIX, XV, WWJ VI.

Total games played: 8 (not counting IIX)
Ordo: 5
Werewolf: 1
Ranger: 1
Cursed: 1

On losing team: 4
On winning team: 4
Survived to end: 3
Lynched: 2
Werewolf'd: 3

[Kath]

Well, it was his fault that he chose to take you with me, instead of Form or Samwise.

Well, alright. But you were a team, so it's still your fault!

[Kath]

Alright, this is here because I have become a tiny, incy, weeny little bit annoyed with continually being told that I am 'not participating as much as usual' in various WW games. I don't know where this misconception that I am a loudmouth has come from, but the numbers below should show you that this is completely untrue, except in certain circumstances which are explained below. Thank you for your time

First game (WWIV) – 4 posts – lynched Day 1 (ranger).
Second game (WWV) – 15 posts – survived (mytho turned wolf).
Third game (WWVI) – 7 posts – lynched Day 1 (ranger).
Fourth game (WWVII) – 22 posts – killed Night 6 (seer).
Fifth game (WWIX) – 27 posts – lynched Day 6 (ordo).
Sixth game (WWXIII) – 15 posts – killed Night 3 (ordo).
Seventh game (WWXIV) – 17 posts – lynched Day 5 (ordo).
Eighth game (WWXV) – 21 posts – survived (ordo).
Ninth game (WWJIII) – 54 posts – lynched Day 5 (ordo).
Tenth game (WWXVI) – 10 posts – killed Night 2 (cobbler).
Eleventh game (WWXVII) – 10 posts – lynched Day 6 (ordo).
Twelfth game (WWXVIII) – 18 posts – killed Night 6 (ordo).
Thirteenth game (WWXIX) – 23 posts – lynched Day 3 (wolf).
Fourteenth game (WWJwerecats) – 30 posts – killed Night 5 (ranger).
Fifteenth game (WWJVIII) – 55 posts – survived (duck).
Sixteenth game (WWXXI) - 33 posts – killed Night 7 (ordo turned Seer).

So we can see that:
a) I should never be ranger.

b) I almost always get killed.

c) I only make a lot of posts when in WWJ games because in these I tend to become a loudmouth due to the lack of anyone else taking that role for me. Also because in game 9 I was convinced Ang was a wolf and went after him so hard one day I likely made half those 50 posts all at once, and in game 15 I was the Duck and desperate to stay alive. Otherwise I make no more than about 30 posts, and that's when I'm alive almost the whole game.

d) When I’m evil, I’m good

Now, since we're on the subject of numbers, what's your game count up to morm? I lost count