Family Tree Trivia - Page 4 - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

nobody · 02-22-2004, 12:41 PM

NightKnight: Close but no cigar. You missed out a generation.
Hint: The great-great-great-granddaughter is Arwen

NightKnight · 02-22-2004, 01:21 PM

Then it would be Celeborn and Galathil.

nobody · 02-22-2004, 01:47 PM

Yes correct.

NightKnight · 02-22-2004, 02:10 PM

In what way are Pippin and Bandobras Bullroarer related?

symestreem · 02-22-2004, 03:26 PM

Bullroarer was Pippin's great-great-great-great-uncle on his father's side, and on his mother's side... j/k.

NightKnight · 02-22-2004, 04:02 PM

Close.

Firefoot · 02-22-2004, 05:26 PM

Bullroarer was Pippin's great-great-great-great-great-uncle.

NightKnight · 02-22-2004, 06:03 PM

That's it.

Firefoot · 02-22-2004, 09:13 PM

On her mother's side, how is Arwen related to Gil-Galad?

NightKnight · 02-23-2004, 05:56 AM

He was her grandmother's cousin's son.

Firefoot · 02-23-2004, 06:47 AM

Yes, go on NightKnight.

NightKnight · 02-23-2004, 09:48 AM

What was Bregolas to Arwen?

luthien-elvenprincess · 02-23-2004, 08:06 PM

Bregolas was Arwen's great-great-great-great grandfather.

NightKnight · 02-24-2004, 04:33 AM

Correct. Your turn.

luthien-elvenprincess · 02-24-2004, 05:59 PM

What relation were Elwing and Celebrian?

Arvedui III · 02-24-2004, 06:20 PM

Elwing is Celebrian's mother-in-law.

luthien-elvenprincess · 02-24-2004, 09:40 PM

Well...yes, that is correct. But, I was actually thinking of another relationship between the two.

NightKnight · 02-25-2004, 03:26 AM

Elwing was Celebrian's cousin's daughter.

luthien-elvenprincess · 02-25-2004, 05:40 AM

You are on the right track in thinking about the 'cousin' relationship. Specifically, I was thinking about which generation of cousins that they were to each other...

symestreem · 02-25-2004, 07:03 PM

Elwing is Celebrian's first cousin, once removed. Celebrian is Elwing's mother's cousin.

NightKnight · 02-26-2004, 08:43 AM

I don't understand all those cousin thingys in English. Sorry.

luthien-elvenprincess · 02-26-2004, 07:04 PM

Ok, I'll give a big hint. Going back 3 generations from Celebrian and Elwing, you have the brothers Olwe and Elwe. Their children, Earwen and Luthien were first cousins. The children of Earwen and Luthien would be second cousins to each other...making the next generation ????? cousins to each other!
Quess

Thorongil · 02-27-2004, 02:21 AM

Third cousins?
But all that cousin stuff IS confusing. first, second and third cousins, once, twice removed, what's the point of it?

luthien-elvenprincess · 02-27-2004, 06:56 AM

THe point of it shows the relationship between people and generations.
For instance: Luthien and Earwen are first cousins; their children (Dior and Galadriel) would be second cousins to each other. But, Dior and Galadriel could also be called 'first cousin, once removed (cuz of generation)' from either Earwen or Luthien, as the case may be.
The term 'cousin' show the relationship and is used without the 'removed' adjective when the cousins are in the same generation. The term 'x-removed' is used to show the relationship between different generations.
Hope this helps!

Your turn, Thorongil.

Thorongil · 02-27-2004, 09:43 AM

Ok, I got it(i think)

What's the relationship between Celebrimbor & Maeglin?

NightKnight · 02-27-2004, 09:52 AM

I didn't know that. Thanks luthien.

For the question: Second cousins?

Firefoot · 02-27-2004, 06:09 PM

Half-second cousins? Because Feanor and Fingolfin were half brothers.

Thorongil · 02-28-2004, 03:55 AM

Yes Firefoot, but I'll accept NightKnight's answer, and he was first so it's all yours NightKnight.

NightKnight · 02-28-2004, 05:07 AM

Thanks Firefoot.

What was Barahir to Turin?

Firefoot · 02-28-2004, 06:51 AM

Barahir was Turin's great-great-uncle.

NightKnight · 02-29-2004, 04:53 AM

That's right. Your turn.

Firefoot · 02-29-2004, 12:58 PM

How were Gimli and Kili related?

Arvedui III · 02-29-2004, 01:12 PM

Gimli and Kili's great-great-grandfathers were brothers.

Firefoot · 02-29-2004, 01:34 PM

Yes, go ahead, Arvedui.

Arvedui III · 02-29-2004, 06:10 PM

Thanks. How are Luthien and Arwen related?

Nirvana II · 02-29-2004, 08:31 PM

Arwen=Luthien's great-great grandaughter

Arvedui III · 03-03-2004, 06:49 PM

Yes indeed. Your go.

Nirvana II · 03-03-2004, 09:11 PM

yup....i got a good one

Eorl to Eomer

luthien-elvenprincess · 03-04-2004, 03:47 PM

Eorl would be Eomer's great (x15)-grandpa.

Nirvana II · 03-04-2004, 05:52 PM

not quite

02-22-2004, 01:21 PM	#122
NightKnight Lost among the Stars Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Hiding in Childhood (Sweden) Posts: 2,690	Then it would be Celeborn and Galathil. __________________ There are three kinds of people in this world. Those who can count, and those who can't.

02-22-2004, 02:10 PM	#124
NightKnight Lost among the Stars Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Hiding in Childhood (Sweden) Posts: 2,690	In what way are Pippin and Bandobras Bullroarer related? __________________ There are three kinds of people in this world. Those who can count, and those who can't.

02-22-2004, 04:02 PM	#126
NightKnight Lost among the Stars Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Hiding in Childhood (Sweden) Posts: 2,690	Close. __________________ There are three kinds of people in this world. Those who can count, and those who can't.

02-22-2004, 06:03 PM	#128
NightKnight Lost among the Stars Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Hiding in Childhood (Sweden) Posts: 2,690	That's it. __________________ There are three kinds of people in this world. Those who can count, and those who can't.

02-23-2004, 05:56 AM	#130
NightKnight Lost among the Stars Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Hiding in Childhood (Sweden) Posts: 2,690	He was her grandmother's cousin's son. __________________ There are three kinds of people in this world. Those who can count, and those who can't.

02-22-2004, 12:41 PM	#121
nobody Haunting Spirit Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Utumno Posts: 64	NightKnight: Close but no cigar. You missed out a generation. Hint: The great-great-great-granddaughter is Arwen

02-22-2004, 01:47 PM	#123
nobody Haunting Spirit Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Utumno Posts: 64	Yes correct.

02-22-2004, 03:26 PM	#125
symestreem Face in the Water Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 728	Bullroarer was Pippin's great-great-great-great-uncle on his father's side, and on his mother's side... j/k.

02-22-2004, 05:26 PM	#127
Firefoot Illusionary Holbytla Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 7,547	Bullroarer was Pippin's great-great-great-great-great-uncle.

02-22-2004, 09:13 PM	#129
Firefoot Illusionary Holbytla Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 7,547	On her mother's side, how is Arwen related to Gil-Galad?

02-23-2004, 06:47 AM	#131
Firefoot Illusionary Holbytla Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 7,547	Yes, go on NightKnight.

02-23-2004, 09:48 AM	#132
NightKnight Lost among the Stars Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Hiding in Childhood (Sweden) Posts: 2,690	What was Bregolas to Arwen? __________________ There are three kinds of people in this world. Those who can count, and those who can't.

02-23-2004, 08:06 PM	#133
luthien-elvenprincess Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: what are you doing here? did you come here to eat my popcorn? Posts: 1,031	Bregolas was Arwen's great-great-great-great grandfather. __________________ York Peppermint Patties taste better than Pearson's Peppermint Patties! But, Junior Mints are the best!

02-24-2004, 04:33 AM	#134
NightKnight Lost among the Stars Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Hiding in Childhood (Sweden) Posts: 2,690	Correct. Your turn. __________________ There are three kinds of people in this world. Those who can count, and those who can't.

02-24-2004, 05:59 PM	#135
luthien-elvenprincess Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: what are you doing here? did you come here to eat my popcorn? Posts: 1,031	What relation were Elwing and Celebrian? __________________ York Peppermint Patties taste better than Pearson's Peppermint Patties! But, Junior Mints are the best!

02-24-2004, 06:20 PM	#136
Arvedui III Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: In Rohan, with Carolina on my mind Posts: 629	Elwing is Celebrian's mother-in-law. __________________ I have no idea what you just said, but I'm inspired!

02-24-2004, 09:40 PM	#137
luthien-elvenprincess Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: what are you doing here? did you come here to eat my popcorn? Posts: 1,031	Well...yes, that is correct. But, I was actually thinking of another relationship between the two. __________________ York Peppermint Patties taste better than Pearson's Peppermint Patties! But, Junior Mints are the best!

02-25-2004, 03:26 AM	#138
NightKnight Lost among the Stars Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Hiding in Childhood (Sweden) Posts: 2,690	Elwing was Celebrian's cousin's daughter. __________________ There are three kinds of people in this world. Those who can count, and those who can't.

02-25-2004, 05:40 AM	#139
luthien-elvenprincess Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: what are you doing here? did you come here to eat my popcorn? Posts: 1,031	You are on the right track in thinking about the 'cousin' relationship. Specifically, I was thinking about which generation of cousins that they were to each other... __________________ York Peppermint Patties taste better than Pearson's Peppermint Patties! But, Junior Mints are the best!

02-25-2004, 07:03 PM	#140
symestreem Face in the Water Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 728	Elwing is Celebrian's first cousin, once removed. Celebrian is Elwing's mother's cousin. Last edited by symestreem; 02-25-2004 at 07:09 PM.

02-26-2004, 08:43 AM	#141
NightKnight Lost among the Stars Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Hiding in Childhood (Sweden) Posts: 2,690	I don't understand all those cousin thingys in English. Sorry. __________________ There are three kinds of people in this world. Those who can count, and those who can't.

02-26-2004, 07:04 PM	#142
luthien-elvenprincess Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: what are you doing here? did you come here to eat my popcorn? Posts: 1,031	Ok, I'll give a big hint. Going back 3 generations from Celebrian and Elwing, you have the brothers Olwe and Elwe. Their children, Earwen and Luthien were first cousins. The children of Earwen and Luthien would be second cousins to each other...making the next generation ????? cousins to each other! Quess __________________ York Peppermint Patties taste better than Pearson's Peppermint Patties! But, Junior Mints are the best!

02-27-2004, 02:21 AM	#143
Thorongil Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: The Elvenpath Posts: 780	Third cousins? But all that cousin stuff IS confusing. first, second and third cousins, once, twice removed, what's the point of it? __________________ To win one hundred victories in one hundred battles is not the acme of skill. To subdue the enemy without fighting is the acme of skill. ~Sun Tzu

02-27-2004, 06:56 AM	#144
luthien-elvenprincess Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: what are you doing here? did you come here to eat my popcorn? Posts: 1,031	THe point of it shows the relationship between people and generations. For instance: Luthien and Earwen are first cousins; their children (Dior and Galadriel) would be second cousins to each other. But, Dior and Galadriel could also be called 'first cousin, once removed (cuz of generation)' from either Earwen or Luthien, as the case may be. The term 'cousin' show the relationship and is used without the 'removed' adjective when the cousins are in the same generation. The term 'x-removed' is used to show the relationship between different generations. Hope this helps! Your turn, Thorongil. __________________ York Peppermint Patties taste better than Pearson's Peppermint Patties! But, Junior Mints are the best!

02-27-2004, 09:43 AM	#145
Thorongil Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: The Elvenpath Posts: 780	Ok, I got it(i think) What's the relationship between Celebrimbor & Maeglin? __________________ To win one hundred victories in one hundred battles is not the acme of skill. To subdue the enemy without fighting is the acme of skill. ~Sun Tzu

02-27-2004, 09:52 AM	#146
NightKnight Lost among the Stars Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Hiding in Childhood (Sweden) Posts: 2,690	I didn't know that. Thanks luthien. For the question: Second cousins? __________________ There are three kinds of people in this world. Those who can count, and those who can't.

02-27-2004, 06:09 PM	#147
Firefoot Illusionary Holbytla Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 7,547	Half-second cousins? Because Feanor and Fingolfin were half brothers.

02-28-2004, 03:55 AM	#148
Thorongil Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: The Elvenpath Posts: 780	Yes Firefoot, but I'll accept NightKnight's answer, and he was first so it's all yours NightKnight. __________________ To win one hundred victories in one hundred battles is not the acme of skill. To subdue the enemy without fighting is the acme of skill. ~Sun Tzu

02-28-2004, 05:07 AM	#149
NightKnight Lost among the Stars Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Hiding in Childhood (Sweden) Posts: 2,690	Thanks Firefoot. What was Barahir to Turin? __________________ There are three kinds of people in this world. Those who can count, and those who can't.

02-28-2004, 06:51 AM	#150
Firefoot Illusionary Holbytla Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 7,547	Barahir was Turin's great-great-uncle.

02-29-2004, 04:53 AM	#151
NightKnight Lost among the Stars Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Hiding in Childhood (Sweden) Posts: 2,690	That's right. Your turn. __________________ There are three kinds of people in this world. Those who can count, and those who can't.

02-29-2004, 12:58 PM	#152
Firefoot Illusionary Holbytla Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 7,547	How were Gimli and Kili related?

02-29-2004, 01:12 PM	#153
Arvedui III Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: In Rohan, with Carolina on my mind Posts: 629	Gimli and Kili's great-great-grandfathers were brothers. __________________ I have no idea what you just said, but I'm inspired!

02-29-2004, 01:34 PM	#154
Firefoot Illusionary Holbytla Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 7,547	Yes, go ahead, Arvedui.

02-29-2004, 06:10 PM	#155
Arvedui III Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: In Rohan, with Carolina on my mind Posts: 629	Thanks. How are Luthien and Arwen related? __________________ I have no idea what you just said, but I'm inspired!