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10-12-2014, 11:41 PM | #121 |
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I can't stay awake any longer, and I won't be up before DL, so I'll have to vote now.
For reasons previously given, plus the way he's been extra calm since I called him panicky. I know, that sounds terrible, but just look: I feel like he's tiptoeing around me, and I don't recall innocent!Inzil being one to tiptoe. ++Inziladun |
10-13-2014, 12:03 AM | #122 |
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Guuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuys, I'm really tired and I just want to sleep. It looks like we have four different people with votes. That can't be true, can it?
Doing a quick read through, voting, and then going to bed. Back soon.
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10-13-2014, 12:55 AM | #123 |
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Man, I didn't miss a whole lot of discussion toDay, and what is here I can't decipher much from at all.
Voting is as follows - wilwa: LG Inzil: Nerwen Mac: LG (2) Shasta: Mac Rikae: Inzil Left to vote are sally, myself, LG, and Nerwen.
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Oddly specific....
Mac is not allowed to be lynched because he coined the term Aganseer and I know how much Agan will love that. Also I don't find him on the top of my suspicion list (which is most of what I'm going to focus on at the moment because again, very sleepy).
I know this is a stretch, and I may regret bringing it up in the morning, but I want to call attention to this from Wilwa. Quote:
Mac is also not allowed to be lynched because he said Legate band-tricycle. You are on point today, my friend! Meanwhile, my Nerwen radar is saying....nothing, which is distinctly unsettling. In my experience, my Nerwen radar always gives off the exact opposite impression, which is to say that I suspect her when she's innocent (especially when she's gifted) and ignore her when she's evil. I'd forgotten she was playing until I came across one of her posts, and I'll also note that she's not done nearly as much saccharine banter with Shasta as I would expect (though perhaps that's due to his own lack of participation?). I don't feel comfortable voting her toDay based solely on this, but it's something I must keep an eye on. Dun's reaction to toDay's attention makes me wonder what he might be. I feel an innocent Dun would laugh and shrug it off (though the commentary to the wolves at the start of the Day was amusing and seemed typical of him), but he's gone through a range of reactions as the Day has gone on, from panic to straight face to the following comment. Quote:
Currently that makes my top options Wilwa and Dun. I feel Dun is the popular choice toDay, but I'll give it a quick think as I ready for bed and make my decision upon my return. x'd with the McCobbler (I've missed you, by the way!)
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10-13-2014, 01:02 AM | #125 |
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++Dun to be done
I find his comments and shifting attitudes toDay too bizarre to ignore. Besides, I'm extra paranoid about him from our last game. I'm out for the night. Sleep well, my loves.
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Legate
I am also giving other’s responses to, and opinions of, our late Ranger, leaving out Agan. Posts may not be cited in full. Legate #24 Banter. Says that if he had to guess on the basis of "tone and gut-feeling”, his pick would be McCaber as "the only ones giving any awkward vibes on first read” and “okay, maybe possibly Mac.” Stresses that these are just first impressions. Edits this post to note that it crossed with Zil #23 (a seemingly non-serious accusation of Mac and McCaber), saying, "Notwithstanding joking, to name the same two people is somewhat... unsettling.” Comments: As we will see, this post is largely what got him lynched. Zil #26 (replying to Legate #24) "It's a conspiracy, I tells ya. Or, more likely, a coincidence based on the fact that so few have posted toDay.’ Legate #27 (replying to Zil #25) Quote:
Askes why Cab is suspicious, or whether it’s just banter. (This post x’d with the previous.) Zil #31 Says Legate "doesn't have any furry vibe at the moment”. Rikae #35 Says Legate “sounds legit”. Tally Inzil —> Mac Mac #36 Quote:
Inzil —> Mac Mac —> Shasta Sally —> Zil Rikae —> Zil(2) McCaber #49 (Vote-post) Quote:
Inzil —> Mac Mac —> Shasta Sally —> Zil Rikae —> Zil(2) McCaber —> Legate Greenie #50 Comments on Legate's edit to #24: Quote:
Legate #52 Sally's reasoning for her vote “seems innocentish”; is “uncertain” about Rikae's, as the grounds she gave seem thin. Comments on McCaber #34 Quote:
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Suspicion-list. On Legate "His jumpy reaction to Inzil "suspecting" the same people was a bit fishy, and I think he's grasping at straws with his suspicion of Cab. It's also interesting that while he was all the time more after Cab than Mac, he dropped Mac altogether after Inzil voted for him. Eyebrow-raising.” (The next few posts are all from Agan, and have been treated separately by me in an earlier post.) Greenie #62 (Vote-post) Replying to Agan #59 (where she disputes Legate's edit to #24 being “panicky”): Quote:
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Comments; So yes, that was weird, even for a Day One lynch. The reasons given for voting him were 1. Retaliation for being suspected at #24. (McCaber.) 2. “Panicky” edit to #24. (Greenie.) 3. Saving Zil (Agan.) Of the three, Agan is dead and a known innocent and McCaber posted very little. Greenie, though, is noteworthy for the way she keeps coming back to #24, and apparently somehow finding it more suspicious with each iteration. An obvious inference would be that Greenie is packmates with Mac or McCaber (whom she defends, especially the latter) or else with Zil (who was actually in danger). That, however, would make the Night-kill of Aganzir, the other Legate-voter, an odd choice. Note: I started this some hours ago and had to go out just before finishing, so though I am aware of later posts I haven’t read them properly and they are not taken into account here. EDIT: typo.
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10-13-2014, 01:17 AM | #127 |
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I know, it's been a while. Good to finally be back.
Although your point on wilwa here really seems like a stretch to me. Especially when trying to connect it to Inzil like you've done. Not really a fan. Speaking of, I don't really agree with the recent Inzil train. He looks more like an ordo to me, albeit a weirdly-acting one. And LG has done nothing to make me suspicious of her that I can see. Of the people who have votes already, I most suspect Mac. I really don't like his post here, because it looks like trying to sow discontent with nothing much to go on.
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10-13-2014, 01:19 AM | #128 |
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Wilwa —> Greenie Inzil —> Nerwen Mac —> Greenie Shasta —> Mac Rikae —> Inzil Sally —> Inzil Which means that Greenie is leading, based on this game’s tiebreaker rule. EDIT: x’d with McCaber
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10-13-2014, 01:46 AM | #129 | ||
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Now Zil… I really don’t think I want to vote him toDay, since though there are other possibilities, which I have covered, the Night-kill does seem like a distinct point in his favour.
This is a pity, as frankly he hasn’t been acting all that innocently toDay! Then we have Mac and Greenie, both of whom have had, essentially, the same interesting reaction to the Night-kill: #100 Quote:
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I mean: maybe. Obviously, not everyone is going to interpret things the same way. But I have seen wolves give a similar, “Huh? What are you talking about?” response to Night-kill theories. Still, they’re both doing it, and meanwhile Mac has voted Greenie in what would be a rather unnecessarily risky bit of wolf-on-wolfing at this stage.
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Why the frell am I still up? I'm not, that's the answer to that. Good night, kiddos.
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10-13-2014, 02:12 AM | #131 |
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Well, I must to bed. So without further ado
++ Macalaure
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10-13-2014, 02:30 AM | #132 |
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If I'm right, the tally looks something like this:
wilwa – Greenie Inzil – Nerwen Mac – Greenie (2) Shasta – Mac Rikae – Inzil Sally – Inzil (2) Cab – Mac (2) So - three-way tie with two people left to vote, and the first to gain the final number of votes dies, right? Which basically means that the one out of Nerwen and myself who votes first decides the lynch. Which makes it pretty straightforward, really - I know I'm not a wolf, and so even though I'd like to think this over a little longer, read through the posts of both gentlemen and then decide, I don't want to risk the village certainly losing an innocent as opposed to losing someone who at least could be a wolf. So, out of those two, I'm going to go with ++ Macalaure
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10-13-2014, 02:49 AM | #133 |
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Okay… I think this makes my vote non-effective, whatever I do.
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10-13-2014, 02:49 AM | #134 |
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So why Mac and not Inzil? Process of elimination, basically. I don't find Inzil particularly suspicious; stuff like yesterDay's suspecting Cab but voting for Mac to get a reaction doesn't strike me as something an Inzilwolf would necessarily do. While Mac might not have been top of my list either, he's at least been sketchier than Inzil. I still think he'd be more involved as a wolf; but his reaction to when I pointed this out was odd, and I'm not quite comfortable with his way of being "fluffy and agreeable" (his own words).
EDIT: x-ed with Nerwen
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10-13-2014, 03:05 AM | #135 |
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Wilwa —> Greenie Inzil —> Nerwen Mac —> Greenie (2) Shasta —> Mac Rikae —> Inzil Sally —> Inzil (2) McCaber —> Mac (2) Greenie —> Mac (3) So everyone else has voted, and Mac dies under the tie-breaker rule. So, hoping for the best: ++Macalaure For the record, I think Greenie looks rather worse, but there are points against Mac, and he was someone I was at least considering. Unfortunately, I don’t think learning his role will tell us that much about Greenie’s. I mean, if he’s a wolf it’s not *likely* she’s his fellow, but hardly something we could count on either. A pity.
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10-13-2014, 04:15 AM | #137 |
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I was afraid this was going to happen when I went to bed, but then I thought I was just paranoid.
ToMorrow we will have a village of 7, with 3 wolves. At least there's a chance the seer will still make a difference, because you've just lynched an ordo. And, wow, look at the reasoning behind those votes: Shasta because I voted for him on Day 1. McCaber for no reason at all. Greenie to save herself, with no reason why she's preferring me over Inzil (at least nothing stated). Nerwen because it didn't matter anymore. Best of luck on Day 3, you'll need it. |
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The next morning the villagers met again in the tavern to discuss their misfortune some more. With the death of their Ranger the villager descended into bickering arguing about who killed who.
“It was Greenie!” Wilwa screamed, pointing a finger at her. “I mean obviously!” Mac agreed. “Just look at her, all...green and what not.” “Hardly,” Rikae said. “Inzil, it had to be him. He managing to escape yesterday, but I just know he’s hiding something.” Sally walked around with a picket sign that read “Dun to be Done”. Three hands went up at once demanding Mac be removed from the village by the most violent means possible. Nerwen bit her lip, unsure what to do. “Honestly, it looks like Greenie is a fanged and furred villian, but it looks like it won’t have much effect if I vote for her.” She shuffled from foot to foot. “Let’s find out about Mac’s lycanthropic tendencies first I guess.” Mac put his hands up and backed into a corner. “Me? No! I never hurt anyone! I’m just trying to live my life! It’s Greenie! Or maybe it’s Shasta! Or Nerwen! Or McCaber! It could be anyone, but it’s not me!” “There’s only one way to find out,” Greenie said. McCaber jumped for Mac. Mac dodged McCaber’s tackle only to be blindsided by Greenie, who had armed herself with a chair. She swung and hit his knee. Mac dropped, clutching his wounded leg. Rikae grabbed a torch from the wall and put it to Mac’s clothes as he lay begging for mercy. The smell of burning fabric, hair, and flesh filled the tavern. Mac screamed and writhed on the floor. He rolled around trying to put the fire out. Flames jumped off him, landing on the floor, eating up the wood. “Someone get a bucket of water,” Sally instructed, “So we don’t accidently burn this place down.” Inzil took up the task. He ran out to the well and upon his return he found Mac had stopped moving, but the flames continued to burn what was left. Inzil threw the water on the burning corpse. The floor where Mac had rolled was damaged beyond repair and his charred body was a smoking, smelly mess. And much to the chagrin of the village he hadn’t changed into a wolf form. Mac was as innocent as he claimed to be. The Living Inziladun satansaloser2005 McCaber Rikae Nerwen wilwarin538 Shastanis Althreduin A Little Green The Dead Kitanna – ripped apart Night 1 - Moddess Legate of Amon Lanc - Brained on Day 1 - Ranger Aganzir - Scalped on Night 2 - Ordo Macalaure - Set on fire Day 2 - Ordo Night 3 has begun
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The wind outside howled or maybe it was those nefarious wolves, McCaber wasn’t sure. He sat in his study looking over some texts on the subject, trying hard not to jump at every little sound.
There had to be a way to stop these beasts before anyone else died. Unfortunately nothing turned up that would ensure all would die at once, rather than one by one. Frustrated and sleepy he put his head down, resting it on his arms. McCaber woke with a start to find his candle burned out and three shadowy figures blocking out the moonlight. “I should have known.” “Grab him,” one ordered. The other two grabbed McCaber, not giving a thought to his comfort in the matter. McCaber didn’t fight, from his research he knew there was no way out. Instead he began to sing “The Song that Never Ends” to annoy them while they tied him to his chair. His voice got louder and louder. “We need to shut him up.” One of the wolves who had tied him down shoved a funnel in his mouth. While another poured the contents of a pot into his mouth. McCaber gagged at the raw, meaty slop being forced into his mouth. A shard of something moved down the funnel and lodged itself in his throat. His gagging turned to wheezing and then all air was cut off. McCaber flailed as best he could in his position. He tried to free his himself so he could perform the heimlich. “What’s wrong? Does Agan not sit well in your stomach?” Eventually his flailing stopped and his head fell limping forward. The wolves proceeded to poke around his study. One came across a rather interesting mirror tucked under some books. “A scrying mirror. Ha! I bet he didn’t see that coming!” The wolf laughed and put the mirror down. ~*~*~ In the morning the village found McCaber covered in body and pureed guts, though his skin was blue underneath. There were many dismayed cries as they realized the wolves had killed their seer. The Living Inziladun satansaloser2005 Rikae Nerwen wilwarin538 Shastanis Althreduin A Little Green The Dead Kitanna – ripped apart Night 1 - Moddess Legate of Amon Lanc - Brained on Day 1 - Ranger Aganzir - Scalped on Night 2 - Ordo Macalaure - Set on fire Day 2 - Ordo McCaber - Choked on bits of Agan Night 3 - Seer Day 3 has begun
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10-14-2014, 06:48 AM | #141 |
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So Cab was the Seer. I was thinking him one of the wolf triumvirate, along with Nerwen, and maybe Greenie. His vote yesterDay was obviously not a clue to that. Why else would he have been targeted?
I think the numbers indicate that an innocent lynch toDay is Game Over.
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Well. This is going very badly indeed.
McCaber, Day One #10. Opening banter: “I’ll step up! Everyone is a wolf but me." #22. Banter– accuses Mac at #21 of "chiming in suspiciously on cue”. Tally Inzil —> Mac #34. Quote:
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As for what tipped the wolves off- well, there’s what I just mentioned, plus McCaber had seemed a little “off” in his playing to many, and to wolves that can smell of giftedness. All the same, it was an awfully good guess… …I hate to say it, but maybe we should lynch my king next? EDIT:X’d with Zil
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10-14-2014, 07:08 AM | #143 |
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Cab's posting was pretty sparse.
His first of any note was this, the one where he called out Mac for the latter's sudden appearance. Obviously we can say now there was nothing to that. Next was this, where he says my vote for Mac looked random, and Mac had just been bantering. Cab's Day 1 vote was for Legate, a known innocent. Day 2 he didn't show up til late in the Day, first giving a vote tally. Next, he says Sally is stretching a point against Greenie. He didn't like the 'Inzil train', and didn't think Greenie had done anything suspicious 'that I can see'. Could he have dreamed me and Greenie? Ends by saying he most suspects Mac. He then votes for Mac, and that's it. Like I said, all I can get is that he might have dreamed Greenie and me. I'll take her off my red list for now. x/d with Nerwen
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Day 2 Votes
Wilwa had the first vote of the Day, with Greenie.
Shasta got the ball rolling on Mac, and his reason for it seems a bit forced. Votes for me from Rikae and Sally followed. Cab and Greenie went for Mac next. We know Cab was the Seer, and based on his words I'm ready to give a pass to Greenie. Nerwen voted for Mac with a note that she was 'hoping for the best', and that her vote would not count anyway, ie, could not overcome the Mac-wagon. Very safe for a wolf. To me, that leaves Shasta and Nerwen as the most suspicious based on the votes.
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So that leaves Shasta, Nerwen, Rikae, Sally and Greenie for me to vote from. Even though we lose today if we guess wrong, the odds are pretty good of hitting a wolf (3 out of 5).
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10-14-2014, 11:39 AM | #146 |
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Well, judging from McSeer's posts, it looks like I've once again been persecuting an innocent Inzil.
Really, from now on, I should just make a rule for myself to never vote for Inzil, even if he proclaims himself a wolf. It also seems quite possible Cab dreamed of Greenie, so I'm going to have a close look at everyone else. Unfortunately there isn't going to be a whole lot to go on: did we actually have two wolves skip the first Day? That would be outrageous. |
10-14-2014, 12:22 PM | #147 |
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Purely looking at the way the votes fell, we know Mac's vote for Greenie was coming from an innocent. The fact that Wilwa also voted Greenie makes me wonder why Mac got as many votes as he did. I suspected him a little (which is more than I had on anyone else, at the time) but I certainly didn't expect a bandwagon to ensue. Rikae and Sally both voted Inzil after I voted for Mac. My question is, with Greenie leading in votes up until then, if she's innocent, why didn't she get hammered on? It seems to me as though, with 3 wolf votes versus 5 innocent votes, it would have been a reasonable assumption to think that three votes on the same person would have been quite the uphill battle to overcome.
Splitting the votes at that juncture also made it more likely that a single vote would carry the day - which is better for the wolves, in my opinion. Interestingly, Inzil didn't get hammered on either, after those initial votes.
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Trouble with that is, looking at the Mac votes...
I know I'm not a wolf. McCaber was obviously not a wolf. Greenie voted to save herself (granted, she could have picked Inzil, but voting to save yourself isn't really a baddie tell). My queen's vote didn't matter after Greenie's. So the votes in and of themselves don't really look all that suspicious. I still think there's more to the fact that neither Greenie nor Inzil garnered more votes than they did. As others have stated, Inzil-ordo is a possible McCaber-dream, so... going by that, I guess I'd say I'm most suspicious of Greenie at the moment - granted, it's hardly fair to expect Greenie to defend herself from this, considering it's not based on anything she's done. I do think I'll go back and look at her, though.
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It's not a strong statement about her innocence, granted, but I wonder if a Seer, knowing there was no Ranger to protect him at Night, would not have been very careful about his words regarding his opinions on people.
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Nerwen -
The "Jonathan" quote was apparently from a game where she was a wolf - would a wolf make such a risky joke? I think a Nerwolf would. A wishy-washy post about Inzil-Mac-Mc. "Might be possible fellows" but "it seems like cub-tactics". Immediately on Day 2, exclaims "What the heck is going on in this village?", and then explains. This looks very innocent: a little too innocent. It also is a good way of framing the discussion (if she's a wolf, she may be giving the real reason, and then immediately offering an alternative in order to keep Inzil as a possible suspect). Analyzes Aganzir at length. In retrospect, lots of text but not much light shed on anything: same conclusions as her previous post and also mentions that Agan could have looked like the wildcard. Calls Zil "really weird today". Analyzes Legate. Concludes that Greenie is suspicious. Doesn't really want to vote for Inzil. Mac and Greenie's reactions to the night kill were suspicious. An Inzil-lynch was possible, and I could see why a wolf-Nerwen wouldn't want to be in the wagon. Funny, she's the one who started talk about a bluff, too. Votes for Mac. Can't really conclude anything from that, it was truly pointless. Day 3 - analyzes McCaber. Concludes Inzil is an ordo, and also possibly Greenie, Sally, Wilwa. Sally - "Who do I have to kill this time? " Looks like any way you slice it, we have a wolf making a wolfy comment in her first post (if I'm right about Greenie and Inzil). Lots and lots and lots of banter. That's Sally, though. Day 1 vote for Inzil: "This might sound silly, but I think he's being louder than he would be as an ordo. His behavior regarding the McPlayers is also a bit unsettling, as has been pointed out, but I am more caught by his volume at this point; I feel an ordo Dun would have been less involved in toDay's discussions (if you can call them discussions). Alas, that's the best hunch I have." This seems reasonable enough. "Regarding the possibility of Agan bluffing as seer" Wait, what? Sally, were you saying Agan was pretending to be a seer who was pretending not to have dreamt of an Inzil-wolf? Because if so, that's the most bizarre werewolf-theory I've ever heard, and I've heard some weird stuff. Suspicious of Wilwa for mentioning she'd be back on Day 3, sees it as a possible hint to her pack. Kind of far-fetched. Wolf-on-wolf? Argues that Inzil could be Wilwa's packmate because he's complaining about lack of participation? That's even more far-fetched. Votes him, though, for his "comments and shifting attitudes toDay". I don't know how I feel about this. Obviously, I found him suspicious myself yesterDay, but this connection she's trying to make between him and Wilwa is really out there. Shasta - Weird comment about Greenie's comment about me. At first I thought he suspected her, but apparently he meant to cast suspicion on me. This "Nah, it's probably nothing. " business is a little creepy. I kind of have the feeling he's trying to use his reputation as an excuse to raise suspicions without committing himself. Quote:
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10-14-2014, 03:46 PM | #151 |
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How so? I couldn't have overcome the bandwagon at that point, even had I been desperate to do so- there was simply no way for me to make my vote count. If I'd voted for anyone else, wouldn't you be saying, "Ah, a throwaway! Very safe for a wolf?"
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It's outrageously late here so I'm heading to bed, I'll post (and think) properly in the morning. For now, a quick thought -
I assume that the wolves aren't keen on bussing each other toDay since they win if we lynch an innocent. If that is true, then we can also assume that Nerwen and Shasta aren't packmates, and that Rikae isn't packmates with either of them (unless they're planning to pull off an epic Legate-180 later on). I'm not sure how much this helps, but anyway. Other than that - I'm a bit worried about how carefully non-committal Wilwa's post toDay is. It wouldn't have alarmed me in a normal situation, but on a Day when we lose if we lynch an innocent, the wolves would have good reason to be extra flexible in who they vote for. It looks like she's trying to keep all ends open and not voice an opinion before something definite happens, exactly what a wolf might want to do on a Day like this. Finally, a question for Nerwen: why Shasta? You might have mentioned it somewhere, but if so I missed it.
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The one good thing about RL stuff is I will be up very early now in the morning and can therefore wait to vote and be around for DL. Though we don't want to all make last minute votes either, the wolves will likely be making every attempt to vote as late as possible so they can have control over the outcome. My best suggestion is that we shouldn't spread the votes out too much, try to reach some consensus before voting so the 4 Ordos can maintain some semblance of control by trying their best to all vote the same way. I'm aware that it's not necessarily possible to accomplish this, but we should do our best. Perhaps since we all have seemed to agree that Inzil is very likely innocent we let him vote first and then the other 3 Ordos agree to vote the same way no matter what? The wolves will then either jump on board or vote elsewhere. If we get an innocent than yes we lose, but if we hit a wolf we might actually have an idea of who else to look at tomorrow based on who didn't want to go along with the plan?
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I don't have time for more now, but will look at people later. Edit: x'd with Wilwa.
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I could possibly vote at DL. I just wouldn't have had much chance to review posts. At the moment, I'm waffling on who to vote for. I should be able to give things a close look before though.
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10-14-2014, 07:58 PM | #157 |
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At the moment, innocents outnumber wolves 4-3.
The only way to keep things going to the next Day is if I vote for a wolf and all innocents follow me. As I said, I could probably get in here in time to make a last minute vote before DL, but I would not have time to do more then give a cursory glance to posts made while I was asleep. I have it narrowed down to two I think are the likeliest wolves, but it would be nice to have some other input if anyone else is around.
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I'm the wolf! Pick me! Pick me! Pick m--arrghl.... *is pushed back into the world of the nonexistent*
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If it were only that easy.
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Ok, since it looks like everyone's lying low, I guess it's time to roll the dice.
++Sally She voted for me two Days, both for what I consider dodgy reasons. The Day 2 vote was partly because of past games, by her admission. This idea of hers that an AganSeer might on Day 1 have been buddying up to me having dreamt me as a wolf is a serious reach. Best I can do. Here's hoping.
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