Riddles in the Downs

[Mithalwen]

Felagund? THough I wouldn't call him minor...

[Galadriel55]

Finarfin? Told the Noldor to stay in Valinor, was "lonely" as the only descendant of Finwe left in Aman, didn't participate in any kinslaying...

Edit: xed with Mith

[Urwen]

Nope and nope. I won't give it to you till your answer is correct.

Finarfin is pretty close, though...

[Galadriel55]

Fingolfin, then? With all of Feanor's quarrels he put up with and all that... But he wasn't exactly lonely.

[Urwen]

Even closer, though not quite. And before you say Feanor, let me tell you: it's female.

[Galadriel55]

Out of all these Noldorian Ladies I think Nerdanel fits most.

I don't think the answer's right, though, and I have to keep thinking, but I want to tell you that I think it's one neat riddle, Urwen!

[Mithalwen]

I think it certainly fits her very well - I think you are right Galadriel and a clever choice if so..

[Urwen]

Out of all these Noldorian Ladies I think Nerdanel fits most.

I don't think the answer's right, though, and I have to keep thinking, but I want to tell you that I think it's one neat riddle, Urwen!

BINGO.

[Galadriel55]

Thank you! Again, really nice riddle, Urwen!

Now for something that does not sound half as elegant but at least rhymes...

Made by the first
In the beginning of the First.
We housed one who never quenched his thirst.

We were three.
We hid Three.
Only one came free.

And as we stood
A rare person would
Challenge us: such is our mood.

Yet such challenges were made;
Fate shaped them, or they shaped fate.
From memmory they will not fade.

[Galadriel55]

Why do I feel like a neekerbreeker?...

This equals to, as much as I'm annoyed with myself for saying it (and you are probably annoyed with me as well), *BUMP*.

[Pitchwife]

Hmm, tough one. In the beginning of the First could mean early in the First Age, and then Three of course brings the Silmaril to mind, but then We were three / We hid Three makes me think more of the three elven Rings and their keepers, and I'm totally clueless about the rest.

[Galadriel55]

On very very very good track there with your thoughts, Pitch. Something you said is right on, but I won't tell you what.

Originally Posted by Pitchwife

...and I'm totally clueless about the rest.

"The rest" (ie the last 2 stanzas) should belong in the poetry thread. I don't even know why I made it part of the riddle, as it hardly contains any clues. But the riddle just seemed incomplete without it.

[Galadriel55]

It seems to me that I have to be the neekerbreeker again for someone to take another guess.

[Galadriel55]

...as well as... well, you know it.

You people discourage me.

[Flame of Udûn]

A wild stab in the dark here but it makes me think of Thangorodrim

[Galadriel55]

Originally Posted by Flame of Udûn

A wild stab in the dark here but it makes me think of Thangorodrim

The wild stab hit it's mark! Please proceed.

[Galadriel55]

It's been two months since the last post.

Does someone want to post a riddle? If not then I have an idea in mind, but I wouldn't like being the riddler twice in a row.

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

I think you will have to take one for the team.

I have no riddle right now, so in order to keep this thread alive you better post your idea.

[Galadriel55]

By your leave.



I lived in a happy place;
It was old, but fair of face.
Me, my sister, and my brother
Lived in peril, but weren't uncovered.

We saw nothing, yet we know -
Me, my sister, white as snow,
And my brother, older still.
Thus we lived and faired until

War was won but something lost.
Many people felt the cost.
Brethren do not need to lie -
We knew we will have to die.

My dear brother then stood forth
And sent a legate to the north,
To survive beyond all fears
And bear tribute to these years.

Wonders sometimes can betide -
By my brother's legate's side
Appeared last of my fair kin
(Although me she's never seen).

When we knew it was the day
For our time to pass away
With us another life was taken.
No more here my kin shall waken.




Urgh, one long idea. :/

[Galadriel55]

.........................bump? Please?

[Pitchwife]

I'd love to oblige, but I've rarely felt so clueless. The first two stanzas vaguely seem to suggest something like Fingon, Turgon and Aredhel (esp. sister white as snow), or maybe even the Children of Húrin, but neither fits the rest of the riddle. The legate business reminds me of Borondir and Eorl, but where are the brother(s) and sister(s) in that story? Blergh. I fear this one will have to wait for its own Legate...

[Galadriel55]

To clear some of the "legate" business - it's poetic license. It should be more like "kingsman". Don't read much into it; the important part it to the north (hint hint wink wink ).

I'm afraid all your guesses went wide, Pitch. Don't read literally into it, that's the first thing. I'll point out the importand lines if you want.

[Nerwen]

The flower elanor? (The "brother" and "sister" being mallorn and niphredil.)

[Galadriel55]

Originally Posted by Nerwen

The flower elanor? (The "brother" and "sister" being mallorn and niphredil.)

Bingo!

Can't wait for your riddle!

[Nerwen]

Looks like you had to wait quite a while.... I'll come up with something shortly.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Originally Posted by Nerwen

Looks like you had to wait quite a while.... I'll come up with something shortly.

Bump, O Wisest "Shortly" Of The Noldor

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by Legate of Amon Lanc

Bump, O Wisest "Shortly" Of The Noldor

Argh. I keep forgetting about this thread!

[Galadriel55]

Originally Posted by Nerwen

Argh. I keep forgetting about this thread!

You sure are.

[Aerandir]

I do believe it's been 10 days and I'll attempt a horrible riddle

This is probably the easiest riddle ever.


The King of bridle
Though unarmed and naked
He bears weapon and armour
Long and loud are his breaths
Cold, unforgiving death
yet still standing is the King

[Nerwen]

Sure, go ahead, Aerandir– I just haven't had time to even check the site the last couple of weeks. Sorry, all!

Also, welcome to the Downs!

[Galadriel55]

Perhaps not as easy as you think!

I think it's Shadowfax, the best horse of his time, who does not flee from the Witch King. Also, I am fond of the idea of thinking of horse and rider as someone without arms carrying/bearing someone with arms...

[Aerandir]

You're on the right track, but it's not a horse.

Here's a hint.
Dunland
Yule(December)


maybe that's too much of a hint but I realize not everyone studies the books religiously.

[Galadriel55]

The King of bridle - king of Rohan, perhaps?
Though unarmed and naked - went outside Hornburg to kill Dunlendings without armour or weapon
He bears weapon and armour - his fists are good enough. Also, people said that "if he bore no weapon no weapon would bite on him", which is a kind of protection
Long and loud are his breaths - blowing the famed horn?
Cold, unforgiving death - winter winter winter...
yet still standing is the King - he died but still kept standing



I think I love Helm's story even more than Eorl's.

[Aerandir]

Correct, your turn! I guess the hint I gave was too much, but without it, it would be pretty hard.

[Galadriel55]

Originally Posted by Aerandir

Correct, your turn! I guess the hint I gave was too much, but without it, it would be pretty hard.

If you just said Yule/December/winter, I wouldn't have thought of it. But there are only that many events than involve Dunlendings.


Alright, here it goes. Hopefully it's at least a bit tricksy and not complete rubbish:


Will you take me?
I'm no beauty.

For I am marred,
My skin is scarred;
I never will
From all this heal.

Will you keep me?
I'm not strong, see.

From East to West
Many a success -
I shall list them
If you'll listen.

Will you bring me?
I'm not happy.

I could tell a dreadful story -
Death and darkness, fall from glory.
Are they coming? No more going.
You can't watch the water flowing!

Will you give me?
Do not leave me!

[Urwen]

Frodo, Celebrian or Eowyn.

If it's not one of those three, I'll eat my legs.....

[Nerwen]

I bet it isn't a person at all...

[Galadriel55]

Originally Posted by Urwen

Frodo, Celebrian or Eowyn.

If it's not one of those three, I'll eat my legs.....

No. No. No. Would you like a wheelchair?

[Urwen]

Well, fourth, sixth and seventh verse point towards Saruman, but the rest don't fit, so.....

Was our subject from First, Second or Third Age?

[Galadriel55]

Third Age. Would you like a hint?

It's not Saruman.