Reputations

[Hookbill the Goomba]

Not naming any names, like, but I recently received a negative rep for an ancient post I had completely forgotten about. It was, in all fairness, quite an immature post and I can understand the reason behind it being negative repped on those grounds, but the reason given was basically, "I don't agree with your opinion, therefore you deserve to be persecuted into submission." I may be paraphrasing there, but that was the general message.
Needless to say, I was quite upset by this. What's more, it was not signed, but I do know who gave it to me and will soon be P-Ming said person. I guess the point of this post is to ask, is such neg-repping on basis of "I don't agree with you" allowed? If nothing else, it can't be Netiquette.
Sorry, folks, you can just ignore my ranting, but I was quite hurt by this person who thought it nice to put a red box on my CP because they didn't agree with me.

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

I guess the point of this post is to ask, is such neg-repping on basis of "I don't agree with you" allowed?

I do not think so. I mean what is the point in a Discussion Forum if you do not discus, but just state opinions and rep them positive or negative according to if you agree or not.

I think it would be devastating to the Downs if people, forget to comunicate! That is why we are heer, is it not?

If you only want to talk to people who agree with you, this is not the place.

[Hookbill the Goomba]

I agree, master rune. I have no problem with people who disagree with me. There are a lot of them. Look out of your window and you'll probably see one.

Still, whenever I've not agreed, I've posted and said something along the lines of "Well, this is what I think," I don't think this is the place for personal attacks on character.

Ah, well. What’s done is done.

Hum de hum.

[Edit] I've just noticed I'm up on Teniquetil again. Brr, it's a bit chilly. [/Edit]

[mormegil]

There are times when I don't agree with what somebody posted but I like how it was written and I find what they had to say interesting so I rep it. I usually included that fact that I don't agree with it but that I like the post.

[Thinlómien]

Argh! I hate negative repping without reasons! I understand neg-repping without name, but without comments is irritating. It leaves you wonder what was the problem.
(Well, this time I got a neg-rep from N+N introduction thread after giving a newbie a link to a avvie site after he had asked. I suppose this was a mistake from the rep-giver, but it still itches me a bit.

It's amazing how often people give accidentally neg-reps. I still prefer them to give them with name so I can post them and ask whether it was an ironic comment or did they make a mistake...)

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

It's amazing how often people give accidentally neg-reps.

What! You mean i am not the only one. . .

[Thinlómien]

Originally Posted by Rune Son of Bjarne

What! You mean i am not the only one. . .

No you're not . You actually did very, very well in compensing that mistake. So, all you guys, if you are given accidentally neg-rep, hope that it's given by Rune...


I quite love Heren's style to thank for rep-points by sending a PM; it's very delighting. Last time I actually felt a bit embarrassed for such thanks because my comment had been only something like: "Good point" or "Intresting points"... Well, Heren's just such a gentleman

[Cailín]

*coughs in a rather embarrassed way*

Well, I just really want to thank everyone who has repped me in the past as I now have a place on Elrond's council (or have had for some time, just failed to notice before).

I don't always thank everyone properly, but every time I get a rep, even though undeserved, I get this warm and fuzzy feeling inside, just because I'm a girl and therefore have to love attention.

So, for the third time, I really appreciate it.

[Thinlómien]

Originally Posted by Cailín

*coughs in a rather embarrassed way*

Well, I just really want to thank everyone who has repped me in the past as I now have a place on Elrond's council (or have had for some time, just failed to notice before).

I don't always thank everyone properly, but every time I get a rep, even though undeserved, I get this warm and fuzzy feeling inside, just because I'm a girl and therefore have to love attention.

So, for the third time, I really appreciate it.

I could actually say just the same - thanks all who have repped me - I'm now in the Elrond's council!

[Lhunardawen]

To think I've been just another villager to worry about.

Thanks to everyone who repped me for WW XII.

And I know this isn't the Best Sigs thread but lmp, you're right.

[Boromir88]

There are times when I don't agree with what somebody posted but I like how it was written and I find what they had to say interesting so I rep it. I usually included that fact that I don't agree with it but that I like the post.

I can't remember whether I have done this or not, I'm pretty sure I haven't (though I've recieved reps like this). Mostly what I rep is either I find it funny, I find it well written (RPG), or I find a post enlightening and I've never thought about it from that "angle" before, getting me to see something in a different light, so to say.

I don't always thank everyone properly, but every time I get a rep, even though undeserved, I get this warm and fuzzy feeling inside, just because I'm a girl and therefore have to love attention.

As discussed before, what one finds funny, or a "good post," may be different then how you feel. So, I don't think any positive rep is undeserved, you obviously did something to deserve that rep. Congrats on you and Thinlomien making it to Elrond's Council.

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

I would like TOREstel for giving me the final rep points that got me in to Elronds counsil.

I had been in the waiting list for ever and finaly I got in.

(of course I appreciat all the other points just as muchl, but it was a real big thing for me to get in to the counsil, so I just thought I would mention it)

[bilbo_baggins]

It looks as if the purpose of the useful if slightly irritating negative rep mark has slidden off into nonexistence.

Many people on the downs do misuse negative repping, because they use it in a way not intended. I believe that repping is based not on content of message (though I do add if they have a good thought or new ideas) it is about how the message is written, how it put together. Spelling can be excused. Silliness tolerated. But overall there are not many truly bad writers on the Downs, so neg repping doesn't happen except by those who don't know how to use it.

I may be all wrong there but if I am right, you won't neg rep this post for content.

[Valesse]

Originally Posted by bilbo_baggins

Many people on the downs do misuse negative repping

I agree with you here but just recently I received some negitive rep which, when I went back and checked, apparently had nothing to do with grammar.

My complaint is anon negitive rep being given without a reason provided. I can't tell what I'm doing "wrong" if someone doesn't tell me ergo it will not be solved. This is why teachers put notes on student essays, by gosh! *shakes fist* To me it only makes sense, but for all those that read this I can not speak for you.

...I am, however, happy to announce that I'm also a new memeber of Elrond's Council!

[Gothmog]

Personally I've only neg repped one time, and it was a spammer, who wanted to advertise his site and nothing else.

It should be used with care, but there are situations where it can be done. Theoreticly I could neg rep someone for chatting for example. But that wouldn't happen before both one and two warnings were issued, as a last way to remind people of the rules. Totally useless posts, like saying "yes" when it's obvious you're doing it only for the post count could be neg repped too. But as most people here are regular members and quite frequent posters one can tolerate this behaviour in many cases, because one know that this is an isolated occurrence from the person in question. These are the situations I can imagine myself giving neg. reps.

But as you say, bilbo_baggins, neg repping shouldn't be done based on the content, unless it violates the rules of the forum. Positive repping on the other hand, that can be based on content. A great contribution is often one that open one's eyes for a certain fact, angle or way of interpret something.

I've been lucky so far when it comes to neg reps. I haven't found anyone misusing the system.

But overall there are not many truly bad writers on the Downs, so neg repping doesn't happen except by those who don't know how to use it.

No, there are certainly not many bad writers here and my believe is that most neg. reps goes to temporary members which don't use the forum as intended. But that it's mainly people who don't know how to use the system that is neg repping I dont believe. Those who don't know how to use the system has probably not been here for long and don't have much weight when it comes to repping anyway.

Now I hope i won't get my first neg rep for this quite useless and oversized posting of known facts and old information

Oh, and congratulations Valesse! What a rocket career you have! What's the secret?
EDIT: 200! Yay!

[Cailín]

I'm too nice, I think, to ever give a negative rep. I'd sooner PM the person or just ignore them if they'd commit a horrible barrow-crime.

And wow, Valesse, you are going even faster than me Congratulations! And Rune too.

[Valesse]

Originally Posted by Gothmog

Oh, and congratulations Valesse! What a rocket career you have! What's the secret?

Red meat and a glass of wine.

*chuckles* I'd have to say it's my lingering, ever slimey presence in "the Mirth".
I've been making Lord of the Rings jokes and a few comics (which I'm still trying to find) for four years now, so I've been literally stewing in my own fandom. I believe what gets more rep than anything, though, is waiting/editting until you know your post is an novel as you can make it and having proper n-ettique.

Being buddy-buddy with the some of the other downers before hand doesn't hurt much, either

[Gothmog]

Being buddy-buddy with the some of the other downers before hand doesn't hurt much, either

I'll remember that to the next time I join the Downs I think Crazy Captions is a really good place to be too. I haven't been as frequent poster there lately as I was in the beginning. Maybe time for a come back!

One thing I've wondered about is the green/yellow squares indicating rep point. Why do they turn yellow? Is it just a way of simplifying counting of the squares? I read the early post in this thread and someone said that you need more than 100 p per square when they're yellow, but so far I've not noticed any difference. Could somebody confirm that it lacks any deeper meaning? Thanks...

[Boromir88]

Many people on the downs do misuse negative repping

Not only do I think that's a poor excuse for negative rep, but I don't think you should negative rep somebody on the grounds of disagreeing with them.

I think the Negative reps are for people who disrupt (spammers as Gothmog says) or people who are way off track and post something that has nothing to do with the discussion topic. And even then I can still tolerate a lot of it and simply ignore it.

One thing I've wondered about is the green/yellow squares indicating rep point. Why do they turn yellow? Is it just a way of simplifying counting of the squares? I read the early post in this thread and someone said that you need more than 100 p per square when they're yellow, but so far I've not noticed any difference. Could somebody confirm that it lacks any deeper meaning?

I actually think that's what it is. Perhaps it's not. I don't know all the "titles," but up until you get to "Aragorn's Court" all the green boxes represent 100 rep pts. The rest of the boxes (should be yellow once you reach Aragorn's court) means it took more than 100 rep points, I don't know the numbers. One of them I think you need like 500 points to get to the next title...something like that.

[Gurthang]

To get from one box to the next:

Box 1: 0 points
Box 2-6: 100 points each
Box 7-10: 200 points each
Box 11: 500 points

Hope that helps.

EDIT: Okay, that should be right now. Sorry, I forgot that you get one yellowish box before it starts counting by 200.

[Gothmog]

Are you sure of that, Gurthang? Because I count my boxes to 7, but my rep points stops at a sum under 800.

But thank you, very helpful!

[Eonwe]

woah! didn't even notice the yellowness!

[Gil-Galad]

i have 10 boxes and 1477 points...

[Gurthang]

Perhaps I should rephrase my statement.

0-99 points = 1 box
100-199 = 2 boxes
200-299 = 3
300-399 = 4
400-499 = 5
500-699 = 6
700-899 = 7
900-1099 = 8
1100-1299 = 9
1300-1499 = 10
1500+ = 11

Alright, changed again. I believe that is right.

My previous synopsis shows how many more points you need to get to gain another shiny gem.

[Thinlómien]

I believe that is right.

At least in my case it is right.

[Gil-Galad]

i have 11 boxes and 1544 now...

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

Originally Posted by Gil-Galad

i have 11 boxes and 1544 now...

Why do you allways have to mess things up, it was working perfect until you postet.

I guess there is no need saying that it is right in my case (and yet I did so anyway. . .how odd)

I

[Gil-Galad]

Originally Posted by Rune Son of Bjarne

Why do you allways have to mess things up, it was working perfect until you postet.

I guess there is no need saying that it is right in my case (and yet I did so anyway. . .how odd)

I

because i can my dear Rune


ts actually 1541

[The Only Real Estel]

Many people on the downs do misuse negative repping

I don't think so. Sure, there are obviously cases of misuse of the neg rep option, but I think saying "many people" is a stretch. Especially when you consider all of the good rep being given out & just how many members there are here on the 'Downs...I'd say a select few "misuse it," if any do.

"Misuse" would also imply repeated usage of the option in a wrong way, & I really doubt that many people consistently "misuse" it...but that's a whole other subject.

[Thinlómien]

Thanks for all who gave me reputation yesterday - Wilwa, Estel, Rune and Gurthang. I hadn't got rep almost for a week and that was affecting my mental health more than it probably should. Besides, I'm now on the second page of members list, if it's arranged by reputation.
*bows*

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

Thanks for all who gave me reputation yesterday - Wilwa, Estel, Rune and Gurthang. I hadn't got rep almost for a week and that was affecting my mental health more than it probably should

well you deserved it. . . I know how you feel, I too let me affect way to much by the fact that I have not gotten any rep. for a while. (currently it is about 6 days ago)
Just ask Valesse who I spend some time complainting to. . . sorry about that Valesse

[Gurthang]

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

Thanks for all who gave me reputation yesterday - Wilwa, Estel, Rune and Gurthang. I hadn't got rep almost for a week and that was affecting my mental health more than it probably should. Besides, I'm now on the second page of members list, if it's arranged by reputation.
*bows*

True, it makes me very happy to see that someone has liked my thoughts/ideas/humor/writing. Likewise, when I look and don't see anything new, it's not so much that I'm unhappy(not anymore at least), but rather that I just don't have that gratification that I was hoping for. Like mild dissappointment.

By the way, congrats on breaking into the top 60, Thin. *pats back*

[Meela]

I don't think I've posted on this thread before...

So I'd just like to go ahead and say a big snuggly thank you to everyone who's repped me. I'm now packed, saddled and bound for the Straight Road thanks to you wonderful people, although compared to most of you I'm sure I don't deserve such status. But thanks anyway!

[The Only Real Estel]

Posted by Meela:

I'm sure I don't deserve such status

Do any of us deserve our status, in our own opinions at least? I think rep titles are quite a bit like pictures. Someone might tell us that our picture looks great, but we'd never believe it; and we'd never believe that we've "earned" our rep titles/status either, no matter how often people try to tell us that we have.

So I won't waste time by saying that I think, beyond a shadow of a doubt, you've earned your status/title, Meela.

[Sleepy Ranger]

Alright, now whose the slimeball that gave me a negative rep with this tagline-

Go random neg rep points!

It was unfair and uncalled for. I deserve an apology

[Morsul the Dark]

Im sorry...no actually it wasnt me io say go positive rep points! whoever did that was kind of immature

[Gurthang]

Originally Posted by Sleepy Ranger

Alright, now whose the slimeball that gave me a negative rep with this tagline-

Go random neg rep points!

It was unfair and uncalled for. I deserve an apology

Sleepy, I feel bad for you that you got that rep, but please refrain from lashing out. The above post could very well earn you another negative(not from me) because it's pretty offensive in itself. Though it may have been unfair and uncalled for, responding in such a way is probably not the best thing to do.

In your situation, I'd look to see if there was maybe a real reason you recieved the rep you got.

[Hookbill the Goomba]

What is strange is that it must be someone with more than 50 posts to actually make a dent on your rep and appear red. There treachery afoot! To the Barrow cave!

I hope it does not get to the point where negative reps have to be reviewed by a moderator before being sent to stop this kind of thing. But if it gets out of hand, then perhaps that would be something we would have to conceder.

[Sleepy Ranger]

Originally Posted by Hookbill the Goomba

What is strange is that it must be someone with more than 50 posts to actually make a dent on your rep and appear red. There treachery afoot! To the Barrow cave!

I lost about 20 points if that helps.

[Kath]

I lost about 20 points if that helps.

That means it was a pretty high up Downer! I mean, I remember the phantom saying he'd like to randomly neg rep people. but I didn't think he'd actually do it! Or anyone for that matter.