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**The Saucepan Man** · 11-22-2009, 11:47 AM

The Black Arrow used by Bard the Bowman to kill Smaug?

Horders fear me ... - It's victim, Smaug, was a hoarder.

My final battle I have seen - Smaug's attack on Laketown was its last battle.

My enemies' weakness discovered - Bilbo discovered Smaug's weak spot, which was coinveyed to Bard via Thrush messenger and it hence became the Black Arrow's target.

This time I do not recover / For as my enemy dies / with him I lie - The Black Arrow lies with Smaug's remains at the bottom of the Long Lake.

Morsul the Dark · 11-22-2009, 10:34 PM

of course sir

**The Saucepan Man** · 11-25-2009, 02:26 PM

Thank you Morsul.

Next up ...

My first may be felt but cannot be touched.
My second is fed but tastes nothing much.
My third are your opposites, so you might say.
My fourth is what’s done at the start of the day.

To find me complete, I suggest that you trace
The deeds of the one in the Ringbearer’s place.

Morsul the Dark · 11-25-2009, 05:32 PM

Old man Willow?

He feels threatening...
He "feeds"
third something about Tom Bombadil
and then the hobbits wake up...?

**The Saucepan Man** · 11-27-2009, 11:29 AM

No, not Old Man Willow.

Mugwump · 11-27-2009, 06:19 PM

Just thinking aloud...

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Saucepan Man

My first may be felt but cannot be touched.
My second is fed but tastes nothing much.
My third are your opposites, so you might say.
My fourth is what’s done at the start of the day.

To find me complete, I suggest that you trace
The deeds of the one in the Ringbearer’s place.

Can be felt but not touched: some kind of feeling like fear, hunger, cold, warmth, etc.

Is fed but has no taste: ambition, curiosity, desire, fire?

Your opposites: thumbs (your opposable digits).

Done at the start of the day: wake, rise.

The one in the Ringbearer's place: one of the residents of Bag End, I suppose. Perhaps Sam, who worked there. His deeds... he was a gardener.

So... "Warm fire thumbs awake" -- nah, that's not it. Not a description of gardening, anyway. Sam warming his hands by the fire?

Legate of Amon Lanc · 11-28-2009, 02:33 AM

Nah, it doesn't sound that bad, Mugwump. Personally I had no idea when I saw the riddle and didn't feel like starting to think about something deeply for an hour. However, why not to make a little brainstorming, as long as it may give anybody a hint.

Your conclusions here made me think of Gaffer, for that matter. He was warming his hands by the fire, but that was in the Scouring of the Shire - when it comes to that, nobody says that the answer itself has anything to do with the Ringbearer at all. I didn't get it if the "one" is supposed to be "the one" (whom we know from somewhere before, for example from the first four hints) or if it is a new one, who is defined only by being "one in the Ringbearer's place". Which could be Bilbo, Gandalf, Frodo, also basically any silly Sackville-Baggins or young hobbit knocking on the floor, or even a Dwarf. (For that matter, even though I think the place is supposed to be Bag End, nobody says the Ringbearer needs to be Bilbo/Frodo. But most likely it is.)

Also, the initial impression I have is that we get something (four first letters?) from the start and we need to complete it with the rest.

Somehow, Samwise could fit there, but not completely. Once again the question is if the final answer is related at all to the riddle's theme (but it probably should).

skip spence · 11-28-2009, 05:27 AM

No time to give it much thought, but some parts of that riddle makes me think of Fatty Bolder.

His fear is felt, hunger is fed etc. obviously in the ringbearer's place in Crickhollow. But I'm shooting from the hip here mind you...

**The Saucepan Man** · 11-28-2009, 05:46 AM

Oh, you are all so close, particularly Mugwump, but you are not quite there yet ...

Mugwump · 11-28-2009, 02:33 PM

Well, I'm stumped; there's no more to go on. How about a wee hint: Is it a person, place, thing, action/activity, or a saying? Or something else?

**The Saucepan Man** · 11-29-2009, 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mugwump

How about a wee hint: Is it a person, place, thing, action/activity, or a saying?

Yes, it's one or more of those things.

Take a look at some of the words that you came up with and then combine them with skip's ideas ...

Lalaith · 11-30-2009, 04:08 AM

Fear! Fire! Foes! Awake!

I can't really take credit for this though. Most of the heavy lifting had been done.

Mugwump · 11-30-2009, 04:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lalaith

Fear! Fire! Foes! Awake!

Aha, a direct quote from the text! I would never have gotten that. Good work, Lalaith!

**The Saucepan Man** · 11-30-2009, 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lalaith

Fear! Fire! Foes! Awake!

Bingo!

Although I kind of like Mugwump's alternative ... "Warm! Fire! Thumbs! Awake!"

Well, heavy lifter or not, Lalaith, you get the credit for finding the answer, so the thread is yours.

Lalaith · 12-03-2009, 05:09 PM

This is probably too easy for you clever people. Sorry.

One is black and nine are white,
Unloved as she that gives us sight
Furtive in darkness, your secrets we spied
Cursed and remembered, unfinished we hide.

Pitchwife · 12-03-2009, 05:18 PM

It is indeed*. The Cats of Queen Beruthiel. Sorry too

.
*But nicely rhymed nevertheless!

EDIT: Aarrgh! Just looked it up and saw that nine were black and one was white! Which of us got it wrong?

Mugwump · 12-03-2009, 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pitchwife

EDIT: Aarrgh! Just looked it up and saw that nine were black and one was white! Which of us got it wrong?

In that case, my guess is a negative of a photo of the Cats of Queen Beruthiel!

Lalaith · 12-04-2009, 03:02 PM

That will teach me to try to set riddles late at night.
1. Preposterously easy
2. Wrong

Nine are black and one is white is how that first line should have gone....

Pitchwife · 12-07-2009, 12:42 PM

Does that mean I've solved it? Or should we say Mugwump has, as his answer fits the riddle as originally posted?

Mugwump · 12-07-2009, 04:23 PM

Don't be silly -- you're the winner, Pitchwife!

Thank you sir, may we have another!

Morsul the Dark · 12-10-2009, 04:59 PM

bump... Pitchie You're up I believe as Mugwump relinquished the thread to you

Pitchwife · 12-11-2009, 11:55 AM

Yes, yes... I just need a little time to think...

Pitchwife · 12-12-2009, 04:33 PM

OK, let's try this - short and easy, as my riddles tend to be.

Daggers wrenched from owner's hold
Dearer bought than jewels or gold
Seed of hatred, gift of scorn
Still we sting, a wreath of thorn

Mugwump · 12-12-2009, 06:21 PM

Bee stingers?

Morsul the Dark · 12-12-2009, 07:31 PM

Barrow Wight Blade?

Loslote · 12-12-2009, 08:04 PM

The knife Angrist?

Daggers wrenched from owner's hold - Beren took it from Curufin's hand
Dearer bought than jewels or gold - He won it, but Curufin's arrow struck him in the chest
Seed of hatred, gift of scorn - Curufin cursed Beren after he (Beren) took the knife
Still we sting, a wreath of thorn - It tore a Silmaril from Morgoth's crown (the 'wreath of thorn')

Morsul the Dark · 12-12-2009, 11:42 PM

If that's not right I don't know what is Good Job!

Pitchwife · 12-13-2009, 04:51 AM

None of the above, sorry. (Although Lottie's solution would have been very neat - but it's daggers, plural.)

Pitchwife · 12-22-2009, 03:40 PM

No new answer for nine days? And I thought this was easy...

Legate, Might, Rumil - where are you?
Anybody want a hint?

Rumil · 12-22-2009, 05:03 PM

Oh go on then...

Having more or less finished work and Xmas shopping...

Cool riddle by the way PW, I'm hoping its a little metaphorical...

Daggers wrenched from owner's hold - dangerous items taken from their owners (hold being hands or caverns I guess)
Dearer bought than jewels or gold - more valuable indeed
Seed of hatred, gift of scorn - caused much trouble, poisoned gifts
Still we sting, a wreath of thorn - still causing heartache

So is the the seven rings of the Dwarves?

All reclaimed by Sauron, very valuable, caused dissention and conflict by increasing the dwarven gold-lust and given by Sauron in hope of corrupting the wearers, still causing trouble by contributing to Balin's doomed re-occupation of Moria.

Or not?

**The Saucepan Man** · 12-22-2009, 05:58 PM

Rumil may well have it. But, if not, his answer prompted a thought in my head, so if my arrow meets its mark, I have him to thank.

The Teeth of Scatha, the Dragon?

Daggers wrenched from owner's hold - Sharp as daggers, they were prised by Fram from the dead Dragon's mouth.
Dearer bought than jewels or gold - Purchased by the slaying of a Dragon.
Seed of hatred, gift of scorn - Scatha's hoard was the source of dispute between Fram's people and the Dwarves of the Grey Mountains and Fram's scornful gift to them of the Teeth prompted war.
Still we sting, a wreath of thorn Hmm, not sure about this one. Possibly, it refers to Fram's death at the Dwarves' hands.

Rumil · 12-23-2009, 06:10 AM

Hi Saucie,

great to see you back!! I think you must have the right of it, sounds a much better answer to me, waiting or PW to confirm.

I haven't read this bit about Scatha the Worm in an age, is it in UT or elsewhere?

All the best

R

Pitchwife · 12-23-2009, 03:23 PM

Oops - wrong mythology.
Anyway, Saucepan Man has it, it's Scatha's teeth (from LotR Appendix A II, Rumil) - and very nicely explained, too! As for the stinging bit, my thought was that Fram's gift stung the Dwarves' pride, metaphorically speaking, but Fram's death is another valid connotation; and wreath of thorn was meant as a metaphor for the necklace made of the teeth.
Well done, SpM - the thread is yours!

Urwen · 02-17-2010, 02:41 PM

I want to join.

Urwen · 02-17-2010, 03:14 PM

Can I write a new riddle?

Pitchwife · 02-17-2010, 03:26 PM

Hi Urwen, welcome to the Downs, and I'll hope you'll enjoy yourself being dead!
The usual procedure 'round here is that whoever solved the last riddle gets to post the next, but as SpM has been silent for nearly two months, I'd say the thread is up for grabs, so if you want to, take it. I suggest you just repost your riddle here instead of creating an extra thread for it - or post another one, as you like it.

Urwen · 02-17-2010, 03:32 PM

Here's my riddle:

Three were we
reduced to none
the first one
was slain alone
the second one
was slain for thing that shone
the third one
forever was gone.

The Might · 03-02-2010, 05:16 AM

Nice riddle, couldn't come up with anything smart so far, but I'll keep looking.

Rumil · 03-07-2010, 10:55 AM

Hi Urwen,

welcome to the Downs!

It's been a bit slow on Riddles recently, hasn't it. Hopefully we can get people going with a few guesses.

Ok, not sure this is the answer, many possibilities!

Three were we - The three elven ambassadors to the Valar
reduced to none - in Middle Earth
the first one
was slain alone - Finwe, slain by Morgoth
the second one
was slain for thing that shone - Elwe (Thingol), slain for the Nauglamir (Silmaril)
the third one
forever was gone. - Ingwe, stayed in Valinor, so forever gone from Middle Earth

So Finwe, Elwe, Ingwe, are my guesses

Urwen · 03-08-2010, 07:10 AM

Yes,they are the answer. Go on.

11-22-2009, 11:47 AM	#1161
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	The Black Arrow used by Bard the Bowman to kill Smaug? Horders fear me ... - It's victim, Smaug, was a hoarder. My final battle I have seen - Smaug's attack on Laketown was its last battle. My enemies' weakness discovered - Bilbo discovered Smaug's weak spot, which was coinveyed to Bard via Thrush messenger and it hence became the Black Arrow's target. This time I do not recover / For as my enemy dies / with him I lie - The Black Arrow lies with Smaug's remains at the bottom of the Long Lake. __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

11-22-2009, 10:34 PM	#1162
Morsul the Dark Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 3,448	of course sir __________________ Morsul the Resurrected

11-25-2009, 02:26 PM	#1163
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	Thank you Morsul. Next up ... My first may be felt but cannot be touched. My second is fed but tastes nothing much. My third are your opposites, so you might say. My fourth is what’s done at the start of the day. To find me complete, I suggest that you trace The deeds of the one in the Ringbearer’s place. __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

11-25-2009, 05:32 PM	#1164
Morsul the Dark Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 3,448	Old man Willow? He feels threatening... He "feeds" third something about Tom Bombadil and then the hobbits wake up...? __________________ Morsul the Resurrected

11-27-2009, 11:29 AM	#1165
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	No, not Old Man Willow. __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

11-28-2009, 02:33 AM	#1167
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	Nah, it doesn't sound that bad, Mugwump. Personally I had no idea when I saw the riddle and didn't feel like starting to think about something deeply for an hour. However, why not to make a little brainstorming, as long as it may give anybody a hint. Your conclusions here made me think of Gaffer, for that matter. He was warming his hands by the fire, but that was in the Scouring of the Shire - when it comes to that, nobody says that the answer itself has anything to do with the Ringbearer at all. I didn't get it if the "one" is supposed to be "the one" (whom we know from somewhere before, for example from the first four hints) or if it is a new one, who is defined only by being "one in the Ringbearer's place". Which could be Bilbo, Gandalf, Frodo, also basically any silly Sackville-Baggins or young hobbit knocking on the floor, or even a Dwarf. (For that matter, even though I think the place is supposed to be Bag End, nobody says the Ringbearer needs to be Bilbo/Frodo. But most likely it is.) Also, the initial impression I have is that we get something (four first letters?) from the start and we need to complete it with the rest. Somehow, Samwise could fit there, but not completely. Once again the question is if the final answer is related at all to the riddle's theme (but it probably should). __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

11-28-2009, 05:27 AM	#1168
skip spence shadow of a doubt Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Back on the streets Posts: 1,125	No time to give it much thought, but some parts of that riddle makes me think of Fatty Bolder. His fear is felt, hunger is fed etc. obviously in the ringbearer's place in Crickhollow. But I'm shooting from the hip here mind you... __________________ "You can always come back, but you can't come back all the way" ~ Bob Dylan

11-28-2009, 05:46 AM	#1169
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	Oh, you are all so close, particularly Mugwump, but you are not quite there yet ... __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

11-28-2009, 02:33 PM	#1170
Mugwump Wight Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Taconic Mountains Posts: 111	Well, I'm stumped; there's no more to go on. How about a wee hint: Is it a person, place, thing, action/activity, or a saying? Or something else?

11-30-2009, 04:08 AM	#1172
Lalaith Blithe Spirit Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,779	Fear! Fire! Foes! Awake! I can't really take credit for this though. Most of the heavy lifting had been done. __________________ Out went the candle, and we were left darkling

12-03-2009, 05:09 PM	#1175
Lalaith Blithe Spirit Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,779	This is probably too easy for you clever people. Sorry. One is black and nine are white, Unloved as she that gives us sight Furtive in darkness, your secrets we spied Cursed and remembered, unfinished we hide. __________________ Out went the candle, and we were left darkling

12-03-2009, 05:18 PM	#1176
Pitchwife Wight of the Old Forest Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Unattended on the railway station, in the litter at the dancehall Posts: 3,329	It is indeed. The Cats of Queen Beruthiel. Sorry too. But nicely rhymed nevertheless! EDIT: Aarrgh! Just looked it up and saw that nine were black and one was white! Which of us got it wrong? __________________ Und aus dem Erebos kamen viele seelen herauf der abgeschiedenen toten.- Homer, Odyssey, Canto XI Last edited by Pitchwife; 12-03-2009 at 05:21 PM.

12-04-2009, 03:02 PM	#1178
Lalaith Blithe Spirit Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,779	That will teach me to try to set riddles late at night. 1. Preposterously easy 2. Wrong Nine are black and one is white is how that first line should have gone.... __________________ Out went the candle, and we were left darkling

12-07-2009, 12:42 PM	#1179
Pitchwife Wight of the Old Forest Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Unattended on the railway station, in the litter at the dancehall Posts: 3,329	Does that mean I've solved it? Or should we say Mugwump has, as his answer fits the riddle as originally posted? __________________ Und aus dem Erebos kamen viele seelen herauf der abgeschiedenen toten.- Homer, Odyssey, Canto XI

12-07-2009, 04:23 PM	#1180
Mugwump Wight Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Taconic Mountains Posts: 111	Don't be silly -- you're the winner, Pitchwife! Thank you sir, may we have another!

12-10-2009, 04:59 PM	#1181
Morsul the Dark Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 3,448	bump... Pitchie You're up I believe as Mugwump relinquished the thread to you __________________ Morsul the Resurrected

12-11-2009, 11:55 AM	#1182
Pitchwife Wight of the Old Forest Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Unattended on the railway station, in the litter at the dancehall Posts: 3,329	Yes, yes... I just need a little time to think... __________________ Und aus dem Erebos kamen viele seelen herauf der abgeschiedenen toten.- Homer, Odyssey, Canto XI

12-12-2009, 04:33 PM	#1183
Pitchwife Wight of the Old Forest Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Unattended on the railway station, in the litter at the dancehall Posts: 3,329	OK, let's try this - short and easy, as my riddles tend to be. Daggers wrenched from owner's hold Dearer bought than jewels or gold Seed of hatred, gift of scorn Still we sting, a wreath of thorn __________________ Und aus dem Erebos kamen viele seelen herauf der abgeschiedenen toten.- Homer, Odyssey, Canto XI

12-12-2009, 06:21 PM	#1184
Mugwump Wight Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Taconic Mountains Posts: 111	Bee stingers?

12-12-2009, 07:31 PM	#1185
Morsul the Dark Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 3,448	Barrow Wight Blade? __________________ Morsul the Resurrected

12-12-2009, 08:04 PM	#1186
Loslote The Werewolf's Companion Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: The Moon Posts: 3,021	The knife Angrist? Daggers wrenched from owner's hold - Beren took it from Curufin's hand Dearer bought than jewels or gold - He won it, but Curufin's arrow struck him in the chest Seed of hatred, gift of scorn - Curufin cursed Beren after he (Beren) took the knife Still we sting, a wreath of thorn - It tore a Silmaril from Morgoth's crown (the 'wreath of thorn') __________________ I have loved the stars too fondly to be fearful of the night. Double Fenris

12-12-2009, 11:42 PM	#1187
Morsul the Dark Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 3,448	If that's not right I don't know what is Good Job! __________________ Morsul the Resurrected

12-13-2009, 04:51 AM	#1188
Pitchwife Wight of the Old Forest Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Unattended on the railway station, in the litter at the dancehall Posts: 3,329	None of the above, sorry. (Although Lottie's solution would have been very neat - but it's daggers, plural.) __________________ Und aus dem Erebos kamen viele seelen herauf der abgeschiedenen toten.- Homer, Odyssey, Canto XI

12-22-2009, 03:40 PM	#1189
Pitchwife Wight of the Old Forest Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Unattended on the railway station, in the litter at the dancehall Posts: 3,329	No new answer for nine days? And I thought this was easy... Legate, Might, Rumil - where are you? Anybody want a hint? __________________ Und aus dem Erebos kamen viele seelen herauf der abgeschiedenen toten.- Homer, Odyssey, Canto XI

12-22-2009, 05:03 PM	#1190
Rumil Sage & Onions Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Britain Posts: 894	Oh go on then... Having more or less finished work and Xmas shopping... Cool riddle by the way PW, I'm hoping its a little metaphorical... Daggers wrenched from owner's hold - dangerous items taken from their owners (hold being hands or caverns I guess) Dearer bought than jewels or gold - more valuable indeed Seed of hatred, gift of scorn - caused much trouble, poisoned gifts Still we sting, a wreath of thorn - still causing heartache So is the the seven rings of the Dwarves? All reclaimed by Sauron, very valuable, caused dissention and conflict by increasing the dwarven gold-lust and given by Sauron in hope of corrupting the wearers, still causing trouble by contributing to Balin's doomed re-occupation of Moria. Or not? __________________ Rumil of Coedhirion

12-22-2009, 05:58 PM	#1191
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	Rumil may well have it. But, if not, his answer prompted a thought in my head, so if my arrow meets its mark, I have him to thank. The Teeth of Scatha, the Dragon? Daggers wrenched from owner's hold - Sharp as daggers, they were prised by Fram from the dead Dragon's mouth. Dearer bought than jewels or gold - Purchased by the slaying of a Dragon. Seed of hatred, gift of scorn - Scatha's hoard was the source of dispute between Fram's people and the Dwarves of the Grey Mountains and Fram's scornful gift to them of the Teeth prompted war. Still we sting, a wreath of thorn Hmm, not sure about this one. Possibly, it refers to Fram's death at the Dwarves' hands. __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

12-23-2009, 06:10 AM	#1192
Rumil Sage & Onions Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Britain Posts: 894	Hi Saucie, great to see you back!! I think you must have the right of it, sounds a much better answer to me, waiting or PW to confirm. I haven't read this bit about Scatha the Worm in an age, is it in UT or elsewhere? All the best R __________________ Rumil of Coedhirion

12-23-2009, 03:23 PM	#1193
Pitchwife Wight of the Old Forest Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Unattended on the railway station, in the litter at the dancehall Posts: 3,329	Sokath, his eyes uncovered! Oops - wrong mythology. Anyway, Saucepan Man has it, it's Scatha's teeth (from LotR Appendix A II, Rumil) - and very nicely explained, too! As for the stinging bit, my thought was that Fram's gift stung the Dwarves' pride, metaphorically speaking, but Fram's death is another valid connotation; and wreath of thorn was meant as a metaphor for the necklace made of the teeth. Well done, SpM - the thread is yours! __________________ Und aus dem Erebos kamen viele seelen herauf der abgeschiedenen toten.- Homer, Odyssey, Canto XI

02-17-2010, 02:41 PM	#1194
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,388	I want to join.

02-17-2010, 03:14 PM	#1195
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,388	Can I write a new riddle?

02-17-2010, 03:26 PM	#1196
Pitchwife Wight of the Old Forest Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Unattended on the railway station, in the litter at the dancehall Posts: 3,329	Hi Urwen, welcome to the Downs, and I'll hope you'll enjoy yourself being dead! The usual procedure 'round here is that whoever solved the last riddle gets to post the next, but as SpM has been silent for nearly two months, I'd say the thread is up for grabs, so if you want to, take it. I suggest you just repost your riddle here instead of creating an extra thread for it - or post another one, as you like it. __________________ Und aus dem Erebos kamen viele seelen herauf der abgeschiedenen toten.- Homer, Odyssey, Canto XI

02-17-2010, 03:32 PM	#1197
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,388	Here's my riddle: Three were we reduced to none the first one was slain alone the second one was slain for thing that shone the third one forever was gone. Last edited by Urwen; 02-17-2010 at 03:41 PM.

03-02-2010, 05:16 AM	#1198
The Might Guard of the Citadel Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oxon Posts: 2,205	Nice riddle, couldn't come up with anything smart so far, but I'll keep looking. __________________ “The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.” Delos B. McKown

03-07-2010, 10:55 AM	#1199
Rumil Sage & Onions Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Britain Posts: 894	Elvorama Hi Urwen, welcome to the Downs! It's been a bit slow on Riddles recently, hasn't it. Hopefully we can get people going with a few guesses. Ok, not sure this is the answer, many possibilities! Three were we - The three elven ambassadors to the Valar reduced to none - in Middle Earth the first one was slain alone - Finwe, slain by Morgoth the second one was slain for thing that shone - Elwe (Thingol), slain for the Nauglamir (Silmaril) the third one forever was gone. - Ingwe, stayed in Valinor, so forever gone from Middle Earth So Finwe, Elwe, Ingwe, are my guesses __________________ Rumil of Coedhirion

03-08-2010, 07:10 AM	#1200
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,388	Yes,they are the answer. Go on. Last edited by Urwen; 03-08-2010 at 12:06 PM.