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**The Saucepan Man** · 10-07-2003, 04:36 PM

Good answer, tom bombariffic (and nice nickname, by the way), but the Stonehearted Dwarf Smith gets it.

Go ahead, Telchar. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Telchar · 10-08-2003, 12:54 AM

OK - Here we go:

Shadowfax
Arod
Windfola
Snowmane
Firefoot

Gwaihir the Windlord · 10-08-2003, 01:53 AM

Arod was a pony.

Telchar · 10-08-2003, 07:20 AM

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Arod was a pony.

I think not...

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A smaller and lighter horse, but restive and fiery, was brought to Legolas. Arod was his name. But Legolas asked them to take off saddle and rein.

Smaller than Hasufel, yet a horse.

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'Now I understand a part of last night's riddle,' said Legolas as he sprang lightly upon Arod's back. 'Whether they fled at first in fear, or not, our horses met Shadowfax, their chieftain, and greeted him with joy. Did you know that he was at hand, Gandalf?'

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For indeed these are your own horses that we ride, as you knew well are you asked, I guess. But seldom does thief ride home to the stable. Here are Hasufel and Arod, that Éomer, the Third Marshal of the Mark, lent to us, only two days ago.

And the most precise and concluside:

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But Arod, the horse of Rohan, refused the way, and he stood sweating and trembling in a fear that was grievous to see.

So no go - sorry

Turambar · 10-08-2003, 07:54 AM

Only Snowmane did not bear two riders at some point?

Telchar · 10-08-2003, 09:50 AM

That is correct Turambar [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] Go on!

Turambar · 10-08-2003, 10:00 AM

Tolkien seemed to like that two-on-a-horse thing; perhaps an obscure refernce to the Templars? [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

OK I'll try to think of a new one.

[ October 08, 2003: Message edited by: Turambar ]

**The Saucepan Man** · 10-08-2003, 07:11 PM

Please refrain from giving long quotes or entering into lengthy discussions in Quiz games. That is not the purpose of this forum.

Telchar · 10-09-2003, 12:36 AM

If I tell people that they have given a wrong answer I usually also give them the reason that thay are wrong else people can continue on a wrong track or with misleading information, causing more wrong guesses. In other cases I tell people that they have made a good guess. I can honestly not see the problem in that Saucepanman.

Could you elaborate on why that is a problem?

NB: I could have asked you this in private Saucepanman, but I think it is in the best interest of all the participants to know why this in not one of the purposes of the quizroom - ei: to learn more and be corrected when one is wrong.

**The Saucepan Man** · 10-09-2003, 07:47 AM

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Could you elaborate on why that is a problem?

Certainly, Telchar.

The threads in this forum are for the playing of Quiz games, not discussion of Tolkien's works. By all means correct someone if they get something wrong, but this only requires a short sentence or two. There is no need for lengthy supporting quotes and/or argument. Were that to happen every time an incorrect statement was made on these threads, then the games themselves would become lost in the detail and the threads would become prematurely long. That is why lengthy corrections, which not only take up space themselves but may also provoke similalry lengthy responses, are to be discouraged.

If a brief correction does (or is likely to) develop into a discussion, then (if it is worth continuing) that discussion can be taken to PM or (better still) the Books or Novices/Newcomers forum (as appropriate).

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I think it is in the best interest of all the participants to know why this in not one of the purposes of the quizroom - ei: to learn more and be corrected when one is wrong.

I am not saying that the Quiz Room should not be for learning. Indeed, on the contrary, the opportunity to learn more about Tolkien's works (mainly thriugh researching answers and seeing the answers given by others) is, to my mind, one of its key attractions. What I am saying, though, is that discussion should be kept to a minimum so that it does not start obscuring the games, and that includes detailed explanations of why someone has got something wrong. A simple correction will suffice.

I agree that it is useful to have the opportunity to explain these guidelines for the benefit of all. But, if anyone has any further comments on what I have said, please PM me. Enough space has been taken up on this thread.

I hope that clarifies matters. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

[ October 09, 2003: Message edited by: The Saucepan Man ]

Anything but Arwen · 10-09-2003, 11:46 AM

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or entering into lengthy discussions in Quiz games.

Sorry to be a smarty pants, but wouldnt this disagreement actually count as an example of the afforementioned lengthy discussions?

I'll go back to my corner..

[ October 09, 2003: Message edited by: Anything but Arwen ]

tom bombariffic · 10-09-2003, 02:14 PM

True, very true.

Anyway, how about a new question?

Bombariffic (and he's got his thinking cap on)

Telchar · 10-10-2003, 03:32 PM

My lips are sealed while we wait for Turambar to continue this thread. [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img]

Gwaihir the Windlord · 10-11-2003, 02:09 AM

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I can honestly not see the problem in that Saucepanman.

If Arod wasn't a pony, then all you need to say is something like 'no, Arod was a horse'. You don't need to back it up with umpteen quotes from the books; I believe you!

tom bombariffic · 10-11-2003, 05:42 AM

true, writing an essay dosen't make your post any more valid, but I can also see saucepan man's point. So let's all stop being so hasty, and get on with the quiz, because arguing like filthy orcs isn't why we're here, brum ra-room.

Turambar · 10-11-2003, 06:26 AM

In the meantime, I'm having trouble thinkig of an OCO - if someone else has one, please post.

Telchar · 10-11-2003, 07:15 AM

Bat
Butterfly
Squirrel
Ram
Bear
Horse
Thrush
Crow
Moth

[ October 11, 2003: Message edited by: Telchar ]

Anything but Arwen · 10-11-2003, 12:45 PM

A wild shot in the dark, but is it butterfly and squirrel, because the others were able to carry messages, speak, or showed some sign of higher intellegence?

Or not...

EDIT: OH! Ive seen a vague connection..lots of them have something to do with Mirkwood, living in or around it..something like that. Apart from that, I'm stumped. Anyone else?

[ October 11, 2003: Message edited by: Anything but Arwen ]

Finwe · 10-11-2003, 06:14 PM

Butterfly or Squirrel, because all of the others, in some way or form, influenced the fate of Middle-earth.

Bat -- (Thuringwethil in the Silmarillion)el
Ram -- (The husband of Tar-Ancalimë discovered her while she was herding sheep and rams)
Bear --- (Beorn)
Horse -- (Shadowfax, Arod, Hasufel, etc.)
Thrush -- (the Thrush in the Hobbit, who helped Bard kill Smaug)
Crow -- (Roac son of Carc, who was also in the Hobbit)
Moth -- (rescued Gandalf)

Telchar · 10-11-2003, 06:21 PM

Not to discourage anyone, but you are a little far off to the West or to the east.....

Finwe · 10-11-2003, 07:06 PM

All right then, Horse, because all the others lived in Mirkwood, or could be found in Mirkwood.

Telchar · 10-12-2003, 10:41 AM

Right OCO Finwe, but not the reason Im looking for, sorry [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

Finwe · 10-12-2003, 12:41 PM

Is the reason that Horse was the only one that didn't play a part in The Hobbit?

Anything but Arwen · 10-12-2003, 01:54 PM

But what about the ponies, and Gandalf's white horse? And Beorn's horses?

Telchar · 10-12-2003, 03:41 PM

Finwe is getting close and ABA almost gives it away with his comment.... [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

tom bombariffic · 10-13-2003, 09:10 AM

Horse, as it is the only one that plays a part in the hobbit and LOTR?

Telchar · 10-13-2003, 09:59 AM

That not it either [img]smilies/frown.gif[/img] sorry

Forget LOTR and concentrate on The Hobbit

Anything but Arwen · 10-13-2003, 11:16 AM

*thinks furiously* Errrrrm...Oooh! Being to lazy to actually check this, but are horses and ponies the only animals to be mentioned in every chapter of The Hobbit?

Worth a try..

Telchar · 10-13-2003, 02:11 PM

No thats not it either... getting colder.

I actually thought that you guys would find this one pretty easy, are you having a black-out??? [img]smilies/cool.gif[/img]

[ October 13, 2003: Message edited by: Telchar ]

Anything but Arwen · 10-14-2003, 06:01 AM

Hint?

Telchar · 10-14-2003, 06:22 AM

Hint? - Yes it was.... [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

Let me repeat:

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I actually thought that you guys would find this one pretty easy, are you having a black-out???

tom bombariffic · 10-14-2003, 11:12 AM

er...dunno what to make of that clue...all are black in colour except the white horse?

Telchar · 10-14-2003, 12:21 PM

Excactly Bombariffic ;o)

In the Hobbit there's no mention of any black horse - all the others does however come in black.

Please continue...

tom bombariffic · 10-14-2003, 02:29 PM

wow, didn't expect that!

Ok, I'll try to think of something fiendishly difficult for you lot...

Bombariffic

Anything but Arwen · 10-15-2003, 06:18 AM

*suddenly notices something*

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ABA almost gives it away with his comment

*evil looks* His? No, I'm a her.. thank you ^_^

Telchar · 10-15-2003, 06:36 AM

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*evil looks* His? No, I'm a her.. thank you ^_^

Please accept my utmost apology... [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

tom bombariffic · 10-15-2003, 01:51 PM

here goes

warg
spider
dragon
goblin

off you go! (I hope you don't mind me using goblin as a creature!)

Bombariffic

Finwe · 10-15-2003, 07:13 PM

Spider because all of the others served a Dark Lord at some point (either Morgoth or Sauron).

[ October 15, 2003: Message edited by: Finwe ]

Anything but Arwen · 10-16-2003, 09:00 AM

What about Ungoliant and Shelob?

Errrm...I think it is...warg, because theyre the only ones that could be descirbed as "dumb beasts", for want of a better espression..you know what I mean..theyre only doing what theyre trained to do, the others have more their own will of things?

Oooh! Or, is it Goblin, because its the only one A Dark Lord made by corrupting something fair, as opposed to just using an already existing animal?

tom bombariffic · 10-16-2003, 09:42 AM

Good answers, but unfortunately not what I'm looking for...

Keep going!

10-07-2003, 04:36 PM	#81
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	Good answer, tom bombariffic (and nice nickname, by the way), but the Stonehearted Dwarf Smith gets it. Go ahead, Telchar. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

10-08-2003, 12:54 AM	#82
Telchar Stonehearted Dwarf Smith Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Posts: 2,247	OK - Here we go: Shadowfax Arod Windfola Snowmane Firefoot __________________ Anar Kaluva Tielyanna.

10-08-2003, 07:54 AM	#85
Turambar Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Non-Stop Home Posts: 859	Only Snowmane did not bear two riders at some point? __________________ In the upper air the fireflies move more slowly.

10-08-2003, 09:50 AM	#86
Telchar Stonehearted Dwarf Smith Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Posts: 2,247	That is correct Turambar [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] Go on! __________________ Anar Kaluva Tielyanna.

10-08-2003, 10:00 AM	#87
Turambar Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Non-Stop Home Posts: 859	Tolkien seemed to like that two-on-a-horse thing; perhaps an obscure refernce to the Templars? [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] OK I'll try to think of a new one. [ October 08, 2003: Message edited by: Turambar ] __________________ In the upper air the fireflies move more slowly.

10-08-2003, 01:53 AM	#83
Gwaihir the Windlord Essence of Darkness Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Evermore Posts: 1,420	Arod was a pony.

10-08-2003, 07:11 PM	#88
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	Please refrain from giving long quotes or entering into lengthy discussions in Quiz games. That is not the purpose of this forum. __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

10-09-2003, 12:36 AM	#89
Telchar Stonehearted Dwarf Smith Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Posts: 2,247	If I tell people that they have given a wrong answer I usually also give them the reason that thay are wrong else people can continue on a wrong track or with misleading information, causing more wrong guesses. In other cases I tell people that they have made a good guess. I can honestly not see the problem in that Saucepanman. Could you elaborate on why that is a problem? NB: I could have asked you this in private Saucepanman, but I think it is in the best interest of all the participants to know why this in not one of the purposes of the quizroom - ei: to learn more and be corrected when one is wrong. __________________ Anar Kaluva Tielyanna.

10-09-2003, 02:14 PM	#92
tom bombariffic Wight Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: In the house of Tom Bombariffic Posts: 196	True, very true. Anyway, how about a new question? Bombariffic (and he's got his thinking cap on) __________________ The 'hum' generated by an electric car is not in fact the noise of the engine, but that of the driver's self-righteousness oscillating at a high frequency.

10-10-2003, 03:32 PM	#93
Telchar Stonehearted Dwarf Smith Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Posts: 2,247	My lips are sealed while we wait for Turambar to continue this thread. [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img] __________________ Anar Kaluva Tielyanna.

10-11-2003, 05:42 AM	#95
tom bombariffic Wight Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: In the house of Tom Bombariffic Posts: 196	true, writing an essay dosen't make your post any more valid, but I can also see saucepan man's point. So let's all stop being so hasty, and get on with the quiz, because arguing like filthy orcs isn't why we're here, brum ra-room. __________________ The 'hum' generated by an electric car is not in fact the noise of the engine, but that of the driver's self-righteousness oscillating at a high frequency.

10-11-2003, 06:26 AM	#96
Turambar Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Non-Stop Home Posts: 859	In the meantime, I'm having trouble thinkig of an OCO - if someone else has one, please post. __________________ In the upper air the fireflies move more slowly.

10-11-2003, 07:15 AM	#97
Telchar Stonehearted Dwarf Smith Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Posts: 2,247	Bat Butterfly Squirrel Ram Bear Horse Thrush Crow Moth [ October 11, 2003: Message edited by: Telchar ] __________________ Anar Kaluva Tielyanna.

10-11-2003, 12:45 PM	#98
Anything but Arwen Wight Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: In my own little world. Its OK, they know me here. Posts: 230	A wild shot in the dark, but is it butterfly and squirrel, because the others were able to carry messages, speak, or showed some sign of higher intellegence? Or not... EDIT: OH! Ive seen a vague connection..lots of them have something to do with Mirkwood, living in or around it..something like that. Apart from that, I'm stumped. Anyone else? [ October 11, 2003: Message edited by: Anything but Arwen ] __________________ The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits! (Dontchya just love my avatar? I got a "Tickle Me Boromir" one too...

10-11-2003, 06:14 PM	#99
Finwe Deathless Sun Join Date: May 2003 Location: The Royal Suite in the Halls of Mandos Posts: 2,609	Butterfly or Squirrel, because all of the others, in some way or form, influenced the fate of Middle-earth. Bat -- (Thuringwethil in the Silmarillion)el Ram -- (The husband of Tar-Ancalimë discovered her while she was herding sheep and rams) Bear --- (Beorn) Horse -- (Shadowfax, Arod, Hasufel, etc.) Thrush -- (the Thrush in the Hobbit, who helped Bard kill Smaug) Crow -- (Roac son of Carc, who was also in the Hobbit) Moth -- (rescued Gandalf) __________________ But Melkor also was there, and he came to the house of Fëanor, and there he slew Finwë King of the Noldor before his doors, and spilled the first blood in the Blessed Realm; for Finwë alone had not fled from the horror of the Dark.

10-11-2003, 06:21 PM	#100
Telchar Stonehearted Dwarf Smith Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Posts: 2,247	Not to discourage anyone, but you are a little far off to the West or to the east..... __________________ Anar Kaluva Tielyanna.

10-11-2003, 07:06 PM	#101
Finwe Deathless Sun Join Date: May 2003 Location: The Royal Suite in the Halls of Mandos Posts: 2,609	All right then, Horse, because all the others lived in Mirkwood, or could be found in Mirkwood. __________________ But Melkor also was there, and he came to the house of Fëanor, and there he slew Finwë King of the Noldor before his doors, and spilled the first blood in the Blessed Realm; for Finwë alone had not fled from the horror of the Dark.

10-12-2003, 10:41 AM	#102
Telchar Stonehearted Dwarf Smith Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Posts: 2,247	Right OCO Finwe, but not the reason Im looking for, sorry [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] __________________ Anar Kaluva Tielyanna.

10-12-2003, 12:41 PM	#103
Finwe Deathless Sun Join Date: May 2003 Location: The Royal Suite in the Halls of Mandos Posts: 2,609	Is the reason that Horse was the only one that didn't play a part in The Hobbit? __________________ But Melkor also was there, and he came to the house of Fëanor, and there he slew Finwë King of the Noldor before his doors, and spilled the first blood in the Blessed Realm; for Finwë alone had not fled from the horror of the Dark.

10-12-2003, 01:54 PM	#104
Anything but Arwen Wight Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: In my own little world. Its OK, they know me here. Posts: 230	But what about the ponies, and Gandalf's white horse? And Beorn's horses? __________________ The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits! (Dontchya just love my avatar? I got a "Tickle Me Boromir" one too...

10-12-2003, 03:41 PM	#105
Telchar Stonehearted Dwarf Smith Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Posts: 2,247	Finwe is getting close and ABA almost gives it away with his comment.... [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] __________________ Anar Kaluva Tielyanna.

10-13-2003, 09:10 AM	#106
tom bombariffic Wight Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: In the house of Tom Bombariffic Posts: 196	Horse, as it is the only one that plays a part in the hobbit and LOTR? __________________ The 'hum' generated by an electric car is not in fact the noise of the engine, but that of the driver's self-righteousness oscillating at a high frequency.

10-13-2003, 09:59 AM	#107
Telchar Stonehearted Dwarf Smith Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Posts: 2,247	That not it either [img]smilies/frown.gif[/img] sorry Forget LOTR and concentrate on The Hobbit __________________ Anar Kaluva Tielyanna.

10-13-2003, 11:16 AM	#108
Anything but Arwen Wight Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: In my own little world. Its OK, they know me here. Posts: 230	thinks furiously Errrrrm...Oooh! Being to lazy to actually check this, but are horses and ponies the only animals to be mentioned in every chapter of The Hobbit? Worth a try.. __________________ The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits! (Dontchya just love my avatar? I got a "Tickle Me Boromir" one too...

10-13-2003, 02:11 PM	#109
Telchar Stonehearted Dwarf Smith Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Posts: 2,247	No thats not it either... getting colder. I actually thought that you guys would find this one pretty easy, are you having a black-out??? [img]smilies/cool.gif[/img] [ October 13, 2003: Message edited by: Telchar ] __________________ Anar Kaluva Tielyanna.

10-14-2003, 06:01 AM	#110
Anything but Arwen Wight Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: In my own little world. Its OK, they know me here. Posts: 230	Hint? __________________ The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits! (Dontchya just love my avatar? I got a "Tickle Me Boromir" one too...

10-14-2003, 11:12 AM	#112
tom bombariffic Wight Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: In the house of Tom Bombariffic Posts: 196	er...dunno what to make of that clue...all are black in colour except the white horse? __________________ The 'hum' generated by an electric car is not in fact the noise of the engine, but that of the driver's self-righteousness oscillating at a high frequency.

10-14-2003, 12:21 PM	#113
Telchar Stonehearted Dwarf Smith Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Posts: 2,247	Excactly Bombariffic ;o) In the Hobbit there's no mention of any black horse - all the others does however come in black. Please continue... __________________ Anar Kaluva Tielyanna.

10-14-2003, 02:29 PM	#114
tom bombariffic Wight Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: In the house of Tom Bombariffic Posts: 196	wow, didn't expect that! Ok, I'll try to think of something fiendishly difficult for you lot... Bombariffic __________________ The 'hum' generated by an electric car is not in fact the noise of the engine, but that of the driver's self-righteousness oscillating at a high frequency.

10-15-2003, 01:51 PM	#117
tom bombariffic Wight Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: In the house of Tom Bombariffic Posts: 196	here goes warg spider dragon goblin off you go! (I hope you don't mind me using goblin as a creature!) Bombariffic __________________ The 'hum' generated by an electric car is not in fact the noise of the engine, but that of the driver's self-righteousness oscillating at a high frequency.

10-15-2003, 07:13 PM	#118
Finwe Deathless Sun Join Date: May 2003 Location: The Royal Suite in the Halls of Mandos Posts: 2,609	Spider because all of the others served a Dark Lord at some point (either Morgoth or Sauron). [ October 15, 2003: Message edited by: Finwe ] __________________ But Melkor also was there, and he came to the house of Fëanor, and there he slew Finwë King of the Noldor before his doors, and spilled the first blood in the Blessed Realm; for Finwë alone had not fled from the horror of the Dark.

10-16-2003, 09:00 AM	#119
Anything but Arwen Wight Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: In my own little world. Its OK, they know me here. Posts: 230	What about Ungoliant and Shelob? Errrm...I think it is...warg, because theyre the only ones that could be descirbed as "dumb beasts", for want of a better espression..you know what I mean..theyre only doing what theyre trained to do, the others have more their own will of things? Oooh! Or, is it Goblin, because its the only one A Dark Lord made by corrupting something fair, as opposed to just using an already existing animal? __________________ The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits! (Dontchya just love my avatar? I got a "Tickle Me Boromir" one too...

10-16-2003, 09:42 AM	#120
tom bombariffic Wight Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: In the house of Tom Bombariffic Posts: 196	Good answers, but unfortunately not what I'm looking for... Keep going! __________________ The 'hum' generated by an electric car is not in fact the noise of the engine, but that of the driver's self-righteousness oscillating at a high frequency.