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Shelob · 01-31-2005, 04:35 PM

Well done!

Sorry that the rest of you did not get it, may you have better luck with Piosenniel's Haiku.

piosenniel · 02-02-2005, 12:31 PM

Fate, grace, or favour -
The way unbent is gifted.
Fair/dire . . . last sight . . .

Evisse the Blue · 02-12-2005, 08:03 AM

Frodo leaving into the West?

piosenniel · 02-12-2005, 11:47 AM

No, not Frodo leaving for the West

A hint:

The haiku is a reworking of a quote from the Silmarillion. And the 'last sight' is a thing both dreadful and beautiful seen before those graced with favor die.

Evisse the Blue · 02-12-2005, 12:40 PM

Oh, I know! The mariners who were lost at sea, searching for the Straight Road, were sometimes given a last sight of the Undying Lands, before they died.

piosenniel · 02-12-2005, 04:07 PM

Very close - but what thing exactly did they see that was both beautiful and dreadful as their last sight?

Evisse the Blue · 02-13-2005, 06:57 AM

"(...) they have looked upon the White Mountain, dreadful and beautiful, before they died."

piosenniel · 02-13-2005, 11:52 AM

The floor is yours, m'dear . . .

Evisse the Blue · 02-15-2005, 06:03 AM

Thank you!

Warrior journeys
By Elvish craft to the sea;
Trespassing redeemed.

Mithalwen · 02-15-2005, 11:41 AM

Is this Tuor who finds the armour left by Turgon by the sea and then manages to find his way in to Gondolin? maybe

Evisse the Blue · 02-16-2005, 04:18 AM

Nope, sorry, it's not him.

Mithalwen · 03-28-2005, 10:45 AM

Is it Boromir?

Warrior journeys
By Elvish craft to the sea;
Trespassing redeemed.

He was renowned as a warrior and made his last journey down Anduin in one of the Lorien boats. His "sin" of trying to take the ring was expiated by both his repentence and valiant attempt to save the young hobbits. The fact that the boat made it across the falls and rapids was due either to some great virtue in the boat or as a sign of "grace" ie redemption.

Evisse the Blue · 03-30-2005, 07:36 AM

Yes, that's him, Mithalwen. Well done! Treat us with the next one!

Mithalwen · 04-05-2005, 11:48 AM

Small measure of joy
brave spirit doom fulfilling
pen and sword wielding

Not really worth the wait I am afraid..

Shelob · 04-05-2005, 01:08 PM

Is it Merry?

"Small measure of joy"
Merry means happy, which suggests joy, and because Merry is a hobbit he's short, or small.

"brave spirit doom fulfilling"
I'm not sure here but I'm guessing this refers to the thing with the witchking and him stabbing it in the knee.

"pen and sword wielding"
he both fought, wielded the sword, and wrote the histories of the hobbits, wielded the pen.

Mithalwen · 04-05-2005, 01:38 PM

Yep - it was about the witch king - and Merry was described as valiant by Eowyn, the spirit was also a reference to the brandy in his surname!

Over to you

Shelob · 04-10-2005, 03:14 PM

Once seen never more
your name nor your form apear.
Wise words slyly spoke.

Good Luck.
(And as before clues given upon request...or, rather, so soon after request as I can get around to giving them.)

Shelob · 04-17-2005, 07:01 PM

Hello out there!....*echoes* 'Elo out 'ere!...*echoes*'elo...

Guesses? Clues? Anything?

Evisse the Blue · 04-18-2005, 05:24 AM

I'll guess Sauron:

He was seen once in a pleasing shape as Annatar. Then he was not to be seen in physical shape, nor have his name spoken. And he was very persuasive and seemed very wise when he made the Elves trust him.

Shelob · 04-18-2005, 11:34 AM

Wow, good guess but not at all what I had in mind (mostly because that never occurred to me). It is interesting though how our minds work in such truely different ways...on such truely different scales...

arcticstorm · 04-19-2005, 09:07 AM

Is it Melkor

"Once seen never more"- refers to the battle with fingolfin, where he never again came out of Angband
"your name nor your form apear"- He was cursed by Feanor and the name "Melkor" was never used again, so it was cahnged to Morgoth
"Wise words slyly spoke."- deals with his deception of the Noldor in Valinor

Shelob · 04-21-2005, 04:56 AM

Same as my last answer, apologies.

Shelob · 04-26-2005, 08:52 PM

You lot could try thinking smaller...both in actual size and in terms of importance...it will help, I promise you that...

Evisse the Blue · 05-03-2005, 06:10 AM

In light of your hint, I thought of the fox that met the hobbits outside the Shire. It fits...somehow.

Shelob · 05-03-2005, 10:28 AM

Good Job! It is indeed the fox.

Evisse the Blue · 05-06-2005, 01:29 AM

Oh. Thanks.

Blinded by his wrath,
His greatness turned to madness,
"Leave the ships burning!"

NightKnight · 05-06-2005, 08:58 AM

That has to be Fëanor!

Evisse the Blue · 05-06-2005, 02:24 PM

Yes that's him alright.
Nice to see you around, NK.

NightKnight · 05-06-2005, 04:04 PM

Oh, I'm here once in a while.

Riddles just happen to be off my speciality list.

First of the Faithful,
Stayed within fair Nargothrond
He was really liked

Not very pretty perhaps, but try it anyway.

Dimturiel · 07-19-2005, 02:00 AM

Is it Beor?

01-31-2005, 04:35 PM	#81
Shelob Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: At the abysmal Abyss Mall. Posts: 276	Well done! Sorry that the rest of you did not get it, may you have better luck with Piosenniel's Haiku. __________________ A signature always reveals a man's character - and sometimes even his name ~Evan Esar. Pan for Everyone!

02-02-2005, 12:31 PM	#82
piosenniel Desultory Dwimmerlaik Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Pickin' flowers with Bill the Cat..... Posts: 7,779	Fate, grace, or favour - The way unbent is gifted. Fair/dire . . . last sight . . . __________________ Eldest, that’s what I am . . . I knew the dark under the stars when it was fearless - before the Dark Lord came from Outside.

02-12-2005, 08:03 AM	#83
Evisse the Blue Brightness of a Blade Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: wherever I may roam Posts: 2,685	Frodo leaving into the West? __________________ And no one was ill, and everyone was pleased, except those who had to mow the grass.

02-12-2005, 11:47 AM	#84
piosenniel Desultory Dwimmerlaik Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Pickin' flowers with Bill the Cat..... Posts: 7,779	No, not Frodo leaving for the West A hint: The haiku is a reworking of a quote from the Silmarillion. And the 'last sight' is a thing both dreadful and beautiful seen before those graced with favor die. __________________ Eldest, that’s what I am . . . I knew the dark under the stars when it was fearless - before the Dark Lord came from Outside.

02-12-2005, 12:40 PM	#85
Evisse the Blue Brightness of a Blade Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: wherever I may roam Posts: 2,685	Oh, I know! The mariners who were lost at sea, searching for the Straight Road, were sometimes given a last sight of the Undying Lands, before they died. __________________ And no one was ill, and everyone was pleased, except those who had to mow the grass.

02-12-2005, 04:07 PM	#86
piosenniel Desultory Dwimmerlaik Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Pickin' flowers with Bill the Cat..... Posts: 7,779	Very close - but what thing exactly did they see that was both beautiful and dreadful as their last sight? __________________ Eldest, that’s what I am . . . I knew the dark under the stars when it was fearless - before the Dark Lord came from Outside.

02-13-2005, 06:57 AM	#87
Evisse the Blue Brightness of a Blade Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: wherever I may roam Posts: 2,685	"(...) they have looked upon the White Mountain, dreadful and beautiful, before they died." __________________ And no one was ill, and everyone was pleased, except those who had to mow the grass.

02-13-2005, 11:52 AM	#88
piosenniel Desultory Dwimmerlaik Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Pickin' flowers with Bill the Cat..... Posts: 7,779	The floor is yours, m'dear . . . __________________ Eldest, that’s what I am . . . I knew the dark under the stars when it was fearless - before the Dark Lord came from Outside.

02-15-2005, 06:03 AM	#89
Evisse the Blue Brightness of a Blade Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: wherever I may roam Posts: 2,685	Thank you! Warrior journeys By Elvish craft to the sea; Trespassing redeemed. __________________ And no one was ill, and everyone was pleased, except those who had to mow the grass.

02-15-2005, 11:41 AM	#90
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,458	Is this Tuor who finds the armour left by Turgon by the sea and then manages to find his way in to Gondolin? maybe __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

02-16-2005, 04:18 AM	#91
Evisse the Blue Brightness of a Blade Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: wherever I may roam Posts: 2,685	Nope, sorry, it's not him. __________________ And no one was ill, and everyone was pleased, except those who had to mow the grass.

03-28-2005, 10:45 AM	#92
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,458	Is it Boromir? Warrior journeys By Elvish craft to the sea; Trespassing redeemed. He was renowned as a warrior and made his last journey down Anduin in one of the Lorien boats. His "sin" of trying to take the ring was expiated by both his repentence and valiant attempt to save the young hobbits. The fact that the boat made it across the falls and rapids was due either to some great virtue in the boat or as a sign of "grace" ie redemption. __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

03-30-2005, 07:36 AM	#93
Evisse the Blue Brightness of a Blade Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: wherever I may roam Posts: 2,685	Yes, that's him, Mithalwen. Well done! Treat us with the next one! __________________ And no one was ill, and everyone was pleased, except those who had to mow the grass.

04-05-2005, 11:48 AM	#94
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,458	Small measure of joy brave spirit doom fulfilling pen and sword wielding Not really worth the wait I am afraid.. __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

04-05-2005, 01:08 PM	#95
Shelob Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: At the abysmal Abyss Mall. Posts: 276	Is it Merry? "Small measure of joy" Merry means happy, which suggests joy, and because Merry is a hobbit he's short, or small. "brave spirit doom fulfilling" I'm not sure here but I'm guessing this refers to the thing with the witchking and him stabbing it in the knee. "pen and sword wielding" he both fought, wielded the sword, and wrote the histories of the hobbits, wielded the pen. __________________ A signature always reveals a man's character - and sometimes even his name ~Evan Esar. Pan for Everyone!

04-05-2005, 01:38 PM	#96
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,458	Yep - it was about the witch king - and Merry was described as valiant by Eowyn, the spirit was also a reference to the brandy in his surname! Over to you __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

04-10-2005, 03:14 PM	#97
Shelob Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: At the abysmal Abyss Mall. Posts: 276	Sorry...I've had not time even to think of this thread til now... Once seen never more your name nor your form apear. Wise words slyly spoke. Good Luck. (And as before clues given upon request...or, rather, so soon after request as I can get around to giving them.) __________________ A signature always reveals a man's character - and sometimes even his name ~Evan Esar. Pan for Everyone!

04-17-2005, 07:01 PM	#98
Shelob Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: At the abysmal Abyss Mall. Posts: 276	Hello out there!....echoes 'Elo out 'ere!...echoes'elo... Guesses? Clues? Anything? __________________ A signature always reveals a man's character - and sometimes even his name ~Evan Esar. Pan for Everyone!

04-18-2005, 05:24 AM	#99
Evisse the Blue Brightness of a Blade Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: wherever I may roam Posts: 2,685	I'll guess Sauron: He was seen once in a pleasing shape as Annatar. Then he was not to be seen in physical shape, nor have his name spoken. And he was very persuasive and seemed very wise when he made the Elves trust him. __________________ And no one was ill, and everyone was pleased, except those who had to mow the grass.

04-18-2005, 11:34 AM	#100
Shelob Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: At the abysmal Abyss Mall. Posts: 276	Wow, good guess but not at all what I had in mind (mostly because that never occurred to me). It is interesting though how our minds work in such truely different ways...on such truely different scales... __________________ A signature always reveals a man's character - and sometimes even his name ~Evan Esar. Pan for Everyone!

04-19-2005, 09:07 AM	#101
arcticstorm Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Johnson Bible College: Knoxville, TN Posts: 464	Is it Melkor "Once seen never more"- refers to the battle with fingolfin, where he never again came out of Angband "your name nor your form apear"- He was cursed by Feanor and the name "Melkor" was never used again, so it was cahnged to Morgoth "Wise words slyly spoke."- deals with his deception of the Noldor in Valinor Last edited by arcticstorm; 05-06-2005 at 01:34 PM.

04-21-2005, 04:56 AM	#102
Shelob Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: At the abysmal Abyss Mall. Posts: 276	Same as my last answer, apologies. __________________ A signature always reveals a man's character - and sometimes even his name ~Evan Esar. Pan for Everyone!

04-26-2005, 08:52 PM	#103
Shelob Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: At the abysmal Abyss Mall. Posts: 276	You lot could try thinking smaller...both in actual size and in terms of importance...it will help, I promise you that... __________________ A signature always reveals a man's character - and sometimes even his name ~Evan Esar. Pan for Everyone!

05-03-2005, 06:10 AM	#104
Evisse the Blue Brightness of a Blade Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: wherever I may roam Posts: 2,685	In light of your hint, I thought of the fox that met the hobbits outside the Shire. It fits...somehow. __________________ And no one was ill, and everyone was pleased, except those who had to mow the grass.

05-03-2005, 10:28 AM	#105
Shelob Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: At the abysmal Abyss Mall. Posts: 276	Good Job! It is indeed the fox. __________________ A signature always reveals a man's character - and sometimes even his name ~Evan Esar. Pan for Everyone!

05-06-2005, 01:29 AM	#106
Evisse the Blue Brightness of a Blade Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: wherever I may roam Posts: 2,685	Oh. Thanks. Blinded by his wrath, His greatness turned to madness, "Leave the ships burning!" __________________ And no one was ill, and everyone was pleased, except those who had to mow the grass.

05-06-2005, 08:58 AM	#107
NightKnight Lost among the Stars Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Hiding in Childhood (Sweden) Posts: 2,690	That has to be Fëanor! __________________ There are three kinds of people in this world. Those who can count, and those who can't.

05-06-2005, 02:24 PM	#108
Evisse the Blue Brightness of a Blade Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: wherever I may roam Posts: 2,685	Yes that's him alright. Nice to see you around, NK. __________________ And no one was ill, and everyone was pleased, except those who had to mow the grass.

05-06-2005, 04:04 PM	#109
NightKnight Lost among the Stars Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Hiding in Childhood (Sweden) Posts: 2,690	Oh, I'm here once in a while. Riddles just happen to be off my speciality list. First of the Faithful, Stayed within fair Nargothrond He was really liked Not very pretty perhaps, but try it anyway. __________________ There are three kinds of people in this world. Those who can count, and those who can't.

07-19-2005, 02:00 AM	#110
Dimturiel Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: May 2005 Location: the road less travelled by Posts: 910	Is it Beor? __________________ Is this the end? No more the hunt, the journey and the goal? That terrifies me most: no more the goal! -Ray Bradbury, Leviathan '99