"Minor works" trivia - Page 3 - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Mariska Greenleaf · 03-22-2004, 07:22 AM

At what time looked Firiel out?

HerenIstarion · 03-22-2004, 07:25 AM

3 A.M.

Ah, I was asking about short messages in your lst post to "minor works quotes" threads, now I see what you meant (the whole second paragraph typed in defiance of 'your message is too short' warning)

Mariska Greenleaf · 03-22-2004, 07:34 AM

Yeah, correct answer in three minutes!

HerenIstarion · 03-22-2004, 07:55 AM

We try harder

next to try one's teeth on, than:

Name the only child to be sorry at Cook's (King's) departure

Estelyn Telcontar · 03-22-2004, 02:08 PM

That was Tim, Nokes' great-grandson and the recipient of the faery star.

HerenIstarion · 03-23-2004, 12:25 AM

exactly

Estelyn Telcontar · 03-23-2004, 03:14 AM

Tom Bombadil isn't the only character of Tolkien's who has a blue feather in his hat - who is the other one?

HerenIstarion · 03-23-2004, 04:59 AM

Artaxerxes that'd be, the one to turn Rover into a toy

Estelyn Telcontar · 03-23-2004, 11:34 AM

That's the one, HI - your turn!

HerenIstarion · 03-24-2004, 12:34 AM

The person I have in mind was very conscientious and prudent, and was meeting his engagements in a good timely manner. Said qualities were used by a lot of other persons as an excuse to avoid discharging their own obligations.

Name all of them

HerenIstarion · 03-26-2004, 07:15 AM

As a hint:

The duties of the first person should have been (and have been, too, usually) fulfilled by Christmas

Estelyn Telcontar · 03-27-2004, 03:59 AM

That sounds like it could be Father Christmas, but I haven't gotten a copy of the Father Christmas Letters yet, so I don't know. I can't think of anyone in the other minor works who fits that description...

HerenIstarion · 03-28-2004, 10:59 PM

No, it is not Father Christmas. Additional hint:

Persons (they all were males, btw) of the second category were using first person's alleged (male too) touchiness to avoid going on a quest (as it is)

Estelyn Telcontar · 03-29-2004, 02:53 AM

Thanks for the clues - I finally figured out where to find the person you are looking for: It's the Royal Cook in Farmer Giles of Ham, who made "a Mock Dragon's Tail of cake and almond-paste, with cunning scales of hard icing-sugar." The knights who were chosen for the duty of hunting the dragon and bringing home its tail took the easy way out and merely carried the Mock Dragon's Tail into the hall on Christmas Eve.

HerenIstarion · 03-29-2004, 03:13 AM

right you are, your ladyship

pray proceed

Estelyn Telcontar · 03-29-2004, 06:20 AM

In which of Tolkien's non-Middle-earth "minor works" is the earth flat?

HerenIstarion · 03-29-2004, 06:24 AM

er, Mr. Bliss?

Estelyn Telcontar · 03-29-2004, 06:29 AM

Not that I know of, HI - I haven't gotten 'Mr. Bliss' yet. I'm thinking of a different story.

HerenIstarion · 03-29-2004, 06:44 AM

it was [un]lucky guess, I don't remember if earth and its shape is mentioned in Mr. Bliss at all

Well, I have to admitt I do not have an idea (now at least). Gotta make a bit of searching instead of uttering guesses, I suppose

later

The Squatter of Amon Rûdh · 03-31-2004, 06:56 AM

Roverandom.

The moon dog claims to have fallen from the edge, and the White Dragon has flown from the edge as well.

HerenIstarion · 03-31-2004, 07:00 AM

um. what a shame (I mean, for me)

Good work there, dear Squatter

Estelyn Telcontar · 03-31-2004, 07:03 AM

Absolutely right, Squatter, and nice to see you here again!

Wouldn't it be fascinating to see what Roverandom did?

Quote:

...waterfalls fell over the world's edge and dropped straight into space.

The Squatter of Amon Rûdh · 03-31-2004, 09:06 AM

Our planet was definitely designed with practicality in mind rather than more aesthetic considerations. It's nice to be (more or less) back.

In which year is The Homecoming of Beorhtnoth set?

NightKnight · 03-31-2004, 09:56 AM

Wow, a question I can answer.

It takes place in the year 991.

The Squatter of Amon Rûdh · 04-01-2004, 11:46 AM

It certainly does, being set just after the battle of Maldon in August of that year.

NightKnight · 04-02-2004, 01:23 PM

I can't come up with a question right now, and I'm going away for a week tomorrow, so anyone can have it.

Estelyn Telcontar · 04-03-2004, 04:58 AM

OK, then I'll pose a question to keep the thread going: Who rode a bicycle?

Evisse the Blue · 04-03-2004, 08:57 AM

Niggle?

Estelyn Telcontar · 04-03-2004, 04:03 PM

Yes, Evisse - as far as I know, the only mention of a bicycle is in Leaf by Niggle. Carry on!

Evisse the Blue · 04-04-2004, 04:39 AM

What was the name of Farmer Giles' wife?

Estelyn Telcontar · 04-04-2004, 11:11 AM

Her name was Agatha, and I love the description of her!

Quote:

His wife made a queen of great size and majesty, and she kept a tight hand on the household accounts. There was no getting around Queen Agatha - at least it was a long walk.

Evisse the Blue · 04-05-2004, 01:54 AM

Correct!

Estelyn Telcontar · 04-05-2004, 06:53 AM

Who encounters someone called 'Dumbledor'? (No, I'm not asking about Harry Potter!

)

The Squatter of Amon Rûdh · 04-05-2004, 03:33 PM

More than one dumbledore (bumblebee):

Quote:

He battled with the Dumbledores,
the Hummelhorns and Honeybees

That would be the unnamed hero of Errantry, from The Adventures of Tom Bombadil.

Estelyn Telcontar · 04-05-2004, 03:40 PM

That's the one, Squatter - a "passenger, a messenger, a mariner"... Go ahead with the next!

The Squatter of Amon Rûdh · 04-06-2004, 03:40 PM

The sea-dog in Roverandom is based on an historical canine companion. What was its name and who was its master?

Estelyn Telcontar · 04-07-2004, 06:18 AM

That was Vige, King Olaf of Norway's dog, taken from the 13th-century saga Heimskringla. When defeated in a sea battle, he leapt from his ship, but according to legend, did not drown, swimming to safety. His ship was called the Long Serpent or Long Worm - the mer-dog's master had a ship called the Red Worm. (Thanks to the notes written by Christina Scull and Wayne G. Hammond in my edition of the book!)

The Squatter of Amon Rûdh · 04-07-2004, 08:49 AM

So soon? We must have the same edition. That is, of course, the correct answer.

Estelyn Telcontar · 04-07-2004, 08:53 AM

In one minor work, monks are mentioned. Where are they located?

The Squatter of Amon Rûdh · 04-07-2004, 09:08 AM

The abbey church on the island of Ely, now in Cambridgeshire.

03-22-2004, 07:22 AM	#81
Mariska Greenleaf Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Dublin Posts: 1,036	At what time looked Firiel out? __________________ I hear and I forget. I see and I remember. I do and I understand.- Confucius.

03-22-2004, 07:25 AM	#82
HerenIstarion Deadnight Chanter Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 4,244	3 A.M. Ah, I was asking about short messages in your lst post to "minor works quotes" threads, now I see what you meant (the whole second paragraph typed in defiance of 'your message is too short' warning) __________________ Egroeg Ihkhsal - Would you believe in the love at first sight? - Yes I'm certain that it happens all the time!

03-22-2004, 07:34 AM	#83
Mariska Greenleaf Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Dublin Posts: 1,036	Yeah, correct answer in three minutes! __________________ I hear and I forget. I see and I remember. I do and I understand.- Confucius.

03-22-2004, 07:55 AM	#84
HerenIstarion Deadnight Chanter Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 4,244	We try harder next to try one's teeth on, than: Name the only child to be sorry at Cook's (King's) departure __________________ Egroeg Ihkhsal - Would you believe in the love at first sight? - Yes I'm certain that it happens all the time!

03-22-2004, 02:08 PM	#85
Estelyn Telcontar Princess of Skwerlz Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: where the Sea is eastwards (WtR: 6060 miles) Posts: 7,500	That was Tim, Nokes' great-grandson and the recipient of the faery star. __________________ 'Mercy!' cried Gandalf. 'If the giving of information is to be the cure of your inquisitiveness, I shall spend all the rest of my days in answering you. What more do you want to know?' 'The whole history of Middle-earth...'

03-23-2004, 12:25 AM	#86
HerenIstarion Deadnight Chanter Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 4,244	exactly __________________ Egroeg Ihkhsal - Would you believe in the love at first sight? - Yes I'm certain that it happens all the time!

03-23-2004, 03:14 AM	#87
Estelyn Telcontar Princess of Skwerlz Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: where the Sea is eastwards (WtR: 6060 miles) Posts: 7,500	Tom Bombadil isn't the only character of Tolkien's who has a blue feather in his hat - who is the other one? __________________ 'Mercy!' cried Gandalf. 'If the giving of information is to be the cure of your inquisitiveness, I shall spend all the rest of my days in answering you. What more do you want to know?' 'The whole history of Middle-earth...'

03-23-2004, 04:59 AM	#88
HerenIstarion Deadnight Chanter Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 4,244	Artaxerxes that'd be, the one to turn Rover into a toy __________________ Egroeg Ihkhsal - Would you believe in the love at first sight? - Yes I'm certain that it happens all the time!

03-23-2004, 11:34 AM	#89
Estelyn Telcontar Princess of Skwerlz Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: where the Sea is eastwards (WtR: 6060 miles) Posts: 7,500	That's the one, HI - your turn! __________________ 'Mercy!' cried Gandalf. 'If the giving of information is to be the cure of your inquisitiveness, I shall spend all the rest of my days in answering you. What more do you want to know?' 'The whole history of Middle-earth...'

03-24-2004, 12:34 AM	#90
HerenIstarion Deadnight Chanter Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 4,244	The person I have in mind was very conscientious and prudent, and was meeting his engagements in a good timely manner. Said qualities were used by a lot of other persons as an excuse to avoid discharging their own obligations. Name all of them __________________ Egroeg Ihkhsal - Would you believe in the love at first sight? - Yes I'm certain that it happens all the time!

03-26-2004, 07:15 AM	#91
HerenIstarion Deadnight Chanter Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 4,244	As a hint: The duties of the first person should have been (and have been, too, usually) fulfilled by Christmas __________________ Egroeg Ihkhsal - Would you believe in the love at first sight? - Yes I'm certain that it happens all the time!

03-27-2004, 03:59 AM	#92
Estelyn Telcontar Princess of Skwerlz Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: where the Sea is eastwards (WtR: 6060 miles) Posts: 7,500	That sounds like it could be Father Christmas, but I haven't gotten a copy of the Father Christmas Letters yet, so I don't know. I can't think of anyone in the other minor works who fits that description... __________________ 'Mercy!' cried Gandalf. 'If the giving of information is to be the cure of your inquisitiveness, I shall spend all the rest of my days in answering you. What more do you want to know?' 'The whole history of Middle-earth...'

03-28-2004, 10:59 PM	#93
HerenIstarion Deadnight Chanter Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 4,244	No, it is not Father Christmas. Additional hint: Persons (they all were males, btw) of the second category were using first person's alleged (male too) touchiness to avoid going on a quest (as it is) __________________ Egroeg Ihkhsal - Would you believe in the love at first sight? - Yes I'm certain that it happens all the time!

03-29-2004, 02:53 AM	#94
Estelyn Telcontar Princess of Skwerlz Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: where the Sea is eastwards (WtR: 6060 miles) Posts: 7,500	Thanks for the clues - I finally figured out where to find the person you are looking for: It's the Royal Cook in Farmer Giles of Ham, who made "a Mock Dragon's Tail of cake and almond-paste, with cunning scales of hard icing-sugar." The knights who were chosen for the duty of hunting the dragon and bringing home its tail took the easy way out and merely carried the Mock Dragon's Tail into the hall on Christmas Eve. __________________ 'Mercy!' cried Gandalf. 'If the giving of information is to be the cure of your inquisitiveness, I shall spend all the rest of my days in answering you. What more do you want to know?' 'The whole history of Middle-earth...'

03-29-2004, 03:13 AM	#95
HerenIstarion Deadnight Chanter Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 4,244	right you are, your ladyship pray proceed __________________ Egroeg Ihkhsal - Would you believe in the love at first sight? - Yes I'm certain that it happens all the time!

03-29-2004, 06:20 AM	#96
Estelyn Telcontar Princess of Skwerlz Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: where the Sea is eastwards (WtR: 6060 miles) Posts: 7,500	In which of Tolkien's non-Middle-earth "minor works" is the earth flat? __________________ 'Mercy!' cried Gandalf. 'If the giving of information is to be the cure of your inquisitiveness, I shall spend all the rest of my days in answering you. What more do you want to know?' 'The whole history of Middle-earth...'

03-29-2004, 06:24 AM	#97
HerenIstarion Deadnight Chanter Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 4,244	er, Mr. Bliss? __________________ Egroeg Ihkhsal - Would you believe in the love at first sight? - Yes I'm certain that it happens all the time!

03-29-2004, 06:29 AM	#98
Estelyn Telcontar Princess of Skwerlz Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: where the Sea is eastwards (WtR: 6060 miles) Posts: 7,500	Not that I know of, HI - I haven't gotten 'Mr. Bliss' yet. I'm thinking of a different story. __________________ 'Mercy!' cried Gandalf. 'If the giving of information is to be the cure of your inquisitiveness, I shall spend all the rest of my days in answering you. What more do you want to know?' 'The whole history of Middle-earth...'

03-29-2004, 06:44 AM	#99
HerenIstarion Deadnight Chanter Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 4,244	it was [un]lucky guess, I don't remember if earth and its shape is mentioned in Mr. Bliss at all Well, I have to admitt I do not have an idea (now at least). Gotta make a bit of searching instead of uttering guesses, I suppose later __________________ Egroeg Ihkhsal - Would you believe in the love at first sight? - Yes I'm certain that it happens all the time!

03-31-2004, 06:56 AM	#100
The Squatter of Amon Rûdh Spectre of Decay Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Bar-en-Danwedh Posts: 2,178	Roverandom. The moon dog claims to have fallen from the edge, and the White Dragon has flown from the edge as well. __________________ Man kenuva métim' andúne?

03-31-2004, 07:00 AM	#101
HerenIstarion Deadnight Chanter Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 4,244	um. what a shame (I mean, for me) Good work there, dear Squatter __________________ Egroeg Ihkhsal - Would you believe in the love at first sight? - Yes I'm certain that it happens all the time!

03-31-2004, 09:06 AM	#103
The Squatter of Amon Rûdh Spectre of Decay Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Bar-en-Danwedh Posts: 2,178	Our planet was definitely designed with practicality in mind rather than more aesthetic considerations. It's nice to be (more or less) back. In which year is The Homecoming of Beorhtnoth set? __________________ Man kenuva métim' andúne?

03-31-2004, 09:56 AM	#104
NightKnight Lost among the Stars Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Hiding in Childhood (Sweden) Posts: 2,690	Wow, a question I can answer. It takes place in the year 991. __________________ There are three kinds of people in this world. Those who can count, and those who can't.

04-01-2004, 11:46 AM	#105
The Squatter of Amon Rûdh Spectre of Decay Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Bar-en-Danwedh Posts: 2,178	It certainly does, being set just after the battle of Maldon in August of that year. __________________ Man kenuva métim' andúne?

04-02-2004, 01:23 PM	#106
NightKnight Lost among the Stars Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Hiding in Childhood (Sweden) Posts: 2,690	I can't come up with a question right now, and I'm going away for a week tomorrow, so anyone can have it. __________________ There are three kinds of people in this world. Those who can count, and those who can't.

04-03-2004, 04:58 AM	#107
Estelyn Telcontar Princess of Skwerlz Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: where the Sea is eastwards (WtR: 6060 miles) Posts: 7,500	OK, then I'll pose a question to keep the thread going: Who rode a bicycle? __________________ 'Mercy!' cried Gandalf. 'If the giving of information is to be the cure of your inquisitiveness, I shall spend all the rest of my days in answering you. What more do you want to know?' 'The whole history of Middle-earth...'

04-03-2004, 08:57 AM	#108
Evisse the Blue Brightness of a Blade Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: wherever I may roam Posts: 2,685	Niggle? __________________ And no one was ill, and everyone was pleased, except those who had to mow the grass.

04-03-2004, 04:03 PM	#109
Estelyn Telcontar Princess of Skwerlz Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: where the Sea is eastwards (WtR: 6060 miles) Posts: 7,500	Yes, Evisse - as far as I know, the only mention of a bicycle is in Leaf by Niggle. Carry on! __________________ 'Mercy!' cried Gandalf. 'If the giving of information is to be the cure of your inquisitiveness, I shall spend all the rest of my days in answering you. What more do you want to know?' 'The whole history of Middle-earth...'

04-04-2004, 04:39 AM	#110
Evisse the Blue Brightness of a Blade Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: wherever I may roam Posts: 2,685	Yay - I finally get to ask a minor works question! What was the name of Farmer Giles' wife? __________________ And no one was ill, and everyone was pleased, except those who had to mow the grass.

04-05-2004, 01:54 AM	#112
Evisse the Blue Brightness of a Blade Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: wherever I may roam Posts: 2,685	lol :D Correct! __________________ And no one was ill, and everyone was pleased, except those who had to mow the grass.

04-05-2004, 06:53 AM	#113
Estelyn Telcontar Princess of Skwerlz Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: where the Sea is eastwards (WtR: 6060 miles) Posts: 7,500	Who encounters someone called 'Dumbledor'? (No, I'm not asking about Harry Potter! ) __________________ 'Mercy!' cried Gandalf. 'If the giving of information is to be the cure of your inquisitiveness, I shall spend all the rest of my days in answering you. What more do you want to know?' 'The whole history of Middle-earth...'

04-05-2004, 03:40 PM	#115
Estelyn Telcontar Princess of Skwerlz Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: where the Sea is eastwards (WtR: 6060 miles) Posts: 7,500	That's the one, Squatter - a "passenger, a messenger, a mariner"... Go ahead with the next! __________________ 'Mercy!' cried Gandalf. 'If the giving of information is to be the cure of your inquisitiveness, I shall spend all the rest of my days in answering you. What more do you want to know?' 'The whole history of Middle-earth...'

04-06-2004, 03:40 PM	#116
The Squatter of Amon Rûdh Spectre of Decay Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Bar-en-Danwedh Posts: 2,178	The sea-dog in Roverandom is based on an historical canine companion. What was its name and who was its master? __________________ Man kenuva métim' andúne?

04-07-2004, 06:18 AM	#117
Estelyn Telcontar Princess of Skwerlz Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: where the Sea is eastwards (WtR: 6060 miles) Posts: 7,500	That was Vige, King Olaf of Norway's dog, taken from the 13th-century saga Heimskringla. When defeated in a sea battle, he leapt from his ship, but according to legend, did not drown, swimming to safety. His ship was called the Long Serpent or Long Worm - the mer-dog's master had a ship called the Red Worm. (Thanks to the notes written by Christina Scull and Wayne G. Hammond in my edition of the book!) __________________ 'Mercy!' cried Gandalf. 'If the giving of information is to be the cure of your inquisitiveness, I shall spend all the rest of my days in answering you. What more do you want to know?' 'The whole history of Middle-earth...'

04-07-2004, 08:49 AM	#118
The Squatter of Amon Rûdh Spectre of Decay Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Bar-en-Danwedh Posts: 2,178	So soon? We must have the same edition. That is, of course, the correct answer. __________________ Man kenuva métim' andúne?