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The Might · 09-29-2007, 03:00 PM

oh yeah 1 and 2...well I got 2 things wrong

1. I misread the title of the thread as one truth and two lies and
2. I misread 2. as he never contacted the Ithil-stone with his own...

I am kinda tired

Legate of Amon Lanc · 09-30-2007, 01:53 AM

Seems that everyone's wits were sleepy

But good, take the thread.

The Might · 09-30-2007, 02:00 PM

Ok, here's the three statements:

1. The Druedain didn't attack any Orcs during the War of the Ring.
2. Elves of Rivendell didn't attack any Orcs during the War of the Ring.
3. The Dunlanders were not spared after the Battle of the Horburg.

I still think we should try come up with a way to make this more difficult.

Gil-Galad · 09-30-2007, 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Might

Ok, here's the three statements:

1. The Druedain didn't attack any Orcs during the War of the Ring.
2. Elves of Rivendell didn't attack any Orcs during the War of the Ring.
3. The Dunlanders were not spared after the Battle of the Horburg.

I still think we should try come up with a way to make this more difficult.

i'm going to go with 3, because i remember in TTT that the Rohirrim granted amnesty to the Dunlendings who were taken aback, after being taught that the Rohirrim were monsters.

Thinlómien · 12-03-2007, 08:23 AM

Might?

The Might · 12-05-2007, 12:45 PM

Sorry, yes Gil, you're right.

Please take the thread. I would be interested to see though if you know why #1 isn't false. Legate isn't allowed to answer.

Legate of Amon Lanc · 12-05-2007, 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Might

I would be interested to see though if you know why #1 isn't false. Legate isn't allowed to answer.

Don't worry, I'm not saying anything, but you made me laugh.

The Might · 12-09-2007, 05:03 AM

Well Gil, you can take it even without explaining that.

The Might · 12-10-2007, 09:16 AM

Well Legate as Gil is gone, go ahead and tell us what I had in mind and post a new one too.

Legate of Amon Lanc · 12-10-2007, 11:00 AM

Well there is at maximum presumed that they got some of Saruman's Orcs after the Battles at the Fords of Isen. Normally they don't fight, they hunt.

Hmm... okay.

1. Boromir was not brought to Rivendell by horse.
2. Saruman was not the first hostile force to hold Isengard.
3. Celeborn did not have any siblings.

The Might · 12-10-2007, 11:49 AM

First one is a lie, not because I remember it, but because the other two are truths.
The Dunlendings were in Isengard before Saruman and Celeborn had a brother I believe.

Legate of Amon Lanc · 12-10-2007, 11:51 AM

So you say first one is a lie? That's not correct.

Thinlómien · 12-10-2007, 11:56 AM

Funny, because the first one being true was the only one I could recall. Maybe I'll guess as well. Is 2 the lie?

The Might · 12-10-2007, 11:58 AM

Oh, if I look at my post, I can see the stupidity.
Well 1 and 2 are correct then and 3 is wrong, because it is a lie that he had no siblings.

Legate of Amon Lanc · 12-10-2007, 12:02 PM

2 is not a lie as well. Now I guess it's obvious.

#3 is a lie and TM in fact said it, only he jumped to a wrong conclusion: Celeborn HAD a brother. #3 says that he DIDN'T have a brother. So it's false.

So what? Should I post a new one or let TM have it? If you wish you may post, TM. If you don't, then I will post something else.

Only let me say that this shows one thing: One should also READ WELL the question. This happens all the time when someone misreads a question or sentence (especially when there are double negations involved, like in this case).

EDIT: x-ed, yes, correct, have the thread, TM.

The Might · 12-10-2007, 12:30 PM

Very well...

Aeglos is:

A. a plant
B. a weapon
C. a river

Legate of Amon Lanc · 12-10-2007, 12:38 PM

C is wrong...

The Might · 12-10-2007, 01:38 PM

Indeed.

Legate of Amon Lanc · 12-10-2007, 03:07 PM

1. Morgoth was not hurt more than nine times between his resettling in Angband and the War of Wrath.
2. Thorin's cousin did not fight in the Battle of the Five Armies.
3. Aragorn's crown was not originally Anárion's helmet he wore during the time of the Last Alliance.

The Might · 12-10-2007, 03:24 PM

Bah, I hate negations.

Anyway, the last one is true, it was not Anarion's helmet as this was crushed by a stone thrown from Barad-dur (I still find this the most stupid death in the books)
About Morgoth...he was hurt by Fingolfin eight times and Thorondor hurt him once. So only nine times I believe, meaning this is true as well.
The second is a lie, because he never had a cousin in the first place.

Legate of Amon Lanc · 12-11-2007, 01:01 PM

So you say the second one is a lie? No, it is true. If he didn't have a cousin, of course his cousin didn't fight in the battle of the Five Armies.

I always get you in this one, Miggy

The Might · 12-12-2007, 09:12 AM

Ah yes, how can I be so foolish...
Not because of the cousin thing, but because of Melkor.
He was wounded by Beren (indirectly) after he cut a Silmaril from his crown.
So it means that 1 is the lie.

Legate of Amon Lanc · 12-12-2007, 09:23 AM

Good, very good! I'm impressed! (Or should I rather say: "Good, good!" and "Impressive. Most impressive!" ?

) I expected this question will be solved by an ellimination method, and not by direct revealing the concrete flaw. Please continue.

The Might · 12-12-2007, 12:50 PM

Indeed...but you are not a loremaster yet.

Ok, so here goes:

A. A palantir could be held in any position to see something.
B. The chain Isildur used for the Ring was found.
C. Only one messenger made it to request help from the Eotheod.

Legate of Amon Lanc · 12-12-2007, 01:09 PM

A is wrong. It had to be aligned and the other two are right.

The Might · 12-12-2007, 03:52 PM

Indeed.
It did seem to me like a very curious "coincidence" that Pippin was looking exactly in that direction...

Anyway, please take the thread.

Legate of Amon Lanc · 12-12-2007, 05:54 PM

As we know too well, such "coincidences" happen in Middle-Earth quite often (well, not as often on the large scale, but in this particular... hmm... flow of events).

Okay:

1. Only two men survived the disaster at Gladden Fields.
2. There is a tree (described in Tolkien's books) that blossoms in winter.
3. Galadriel visited Khazad-Dum at least once.

The Might · 12-13-2007, 07:58 AM

Well, a quite difficult one.

Anyway,
1. Is correct I believe, these were Ohtar who made it to Rivendell with the shards of Narsil and Estelmo who was clubbed and seemed to be dead.

2. Not sure.

3. I am very puzzled of this question. I am sure that you are aware that according to one version of the story Galadriel she didn't pass through Khazad-dum, while in another she did. Ok, I say this may be true, thus making number 2 false.

Legate of Amon Lanc · 12-13-2007, 08:03 AM

I am aware of everything

But I have to disappoint you: number 2 is correct (there was such a tree brought by the Elves to Númenor)

The Might · 12-13-2007, 08:14 AM

Is this supposed to be a hint or the answer?

Probably, you mean mallorns, though I thought they blossomed in spring.
That probably means 3 is false.

Legate of Amon Lanc · 12-13-2007, 08:39 AM

No, you have failed, my friend. 1 is false. 2 is correct and 3 is correct as well (in one version, which cannot be discarded). But mainly, 1 is false because there were THREE men who survived: Ohtar had one "friend" and Estelmo survived longer on the place and came back later (according to The Disaster at Gladden Fields; according to the Council of Elrond we are simply said that there were three of them and not if they came together or each by himself).

By the way, to the "2", I meant this:

Quote:

Originally Posted by UT

To Aldarion they gave a sapling tree, whose bark was snow-white, and its stem straight, strong and pliant as it were of steel; but it was not yet in leaf. (...) "It bears cool leaves in summer, and flowers in winter."

Okay, since the answer was not correct, I'm posting another one

1. Saruman was at least once further eastwards than Lórien.
2. Gandalf never visited Angmar.
3. Men of Angmar at least once entered the Shire.

The Might · 12-13-2007, 09:07 AM

1 I was indeed wrong about.
2 "Its leaves, like those of the beech but greater, were pale green above and beneath were silver, glistering in the sun; in the autumn they did not fall, but turned to pale gold. In the spring it bore golden blossom in clusters like a cherry, which bloomed on during the summer; and as soon as the flowers opened the leaves fell, so that through spring and summer a grove of malinorni was carpeted and roofed with gold, but its pillars were of grey silver. Its fruit was a nut with a silver shale." These quotes somehow seem to be in contradiction, but indeed such a tree existed.
3 I am quite disappointed of you considering this to be true. As long as it can't be discarded it can also not be labeled as true, as long as other versions exist and there is no certainty about which one would have been the right one.

1 Is true, he went to the East with the Blue Wizards.
2 "but ever went to and fro in the Westlands from Gondor to Angmar, and from Lindon to Lórien, befriending all folk in times of need"
3. Is thus false.

Legate of Amon Lanc · 12-14-2007, 03:14 AM

So you say 3 is false? No, that is not correct. Miggy...

And concerning the previous one, the main point was that 3 may or may not be true (depending on the version you pick), but, and that's 100%, the first one is NOT true. And since we are looking for one thing that is definitely not right, this is the one.

The Might · 12-14-2007, 07:26 AM

I never don't hate your negations...and I thought I was good in English.
1. is true
2. is false
and so 3 is true as well

Legate of Amon Lanc · 12-14-2007, 07:29 AM

Now it finally isn't incorrect. Please continue

The Might · 12-14-2007, 07:31 AM

Btw, it reminds me of THIS

You don't want to not vote for John Kerry?

Legate of Amon Lanc · 01-23-2008, 04:06 PM

Miggy, give us sumthin'...

Nerwen · 06-21-2008, 09:31 AM

1. Charchost was built by the Men of Gondor.
2. Beregond was the son of Beren.
3. Frodo was Bilbo's nephew.

Gollum the Great · 06-21-2008, 04:03 PM

2 is a lie.

Nerwen · 06-21-2008, 07:07 PM

Gotcha!

That was in fact a trick question. (Wrong Beren!)

09-29-2007, 03:00 PM	#81
The Might Guard of the Citadel Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oxon Posts: 2,205	oh yeah 1 and 2...well I got 2 things wrong 1. I misread the title of the thread as one truth and two lies and 2. I misread 2. as he never contacted the Ithil-stone with his own... I am kinda tired __________________ “The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.” Delos B. McKown

09-30-2007, 01:53 AM	#82
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	Seems that everyone's wits were sleepy But good, take the thread. __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

09-30-2007, 02:00 PM	#83
The Might Guard of the Citadel Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oxon Posts: 2,205	Ok, here's the three statements: 1. The Druedain didn't attack any Orcs during the War of the Ring. 2. Elves of Rivendell didn't attack any Orcs during the War of the Ring. 3. The Dunlanders were not spared after the Battle of the Horburg. I still think we should try come up with a way to make this more difficult. __________________ “The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.” Delos B. McKown

12-03-2007, 08:23 AM	#85
Thinlómien Shady She-Penguin Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: In a far land beyond the Sea Posts: 8,093	*poke* Might? __________________ Like the stars chase the sun, over the glowing hill I will conquer Blood is running deep, some things never sleep Double Fenris

12-05-2007, 12:45 PM	#86
The Might Guard of the Citadel Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oxon Posts: 2,205	Sorry, yes Gil, you're right. Please take the thread. I would be interested to see though if you know why #1 isn't false. Legate isn't allowed to answer. __________________ “The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.” Delos B. McKown

12-09-2007, 05:03 AM	#88
The Might Guard of the Citadel Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oxon Posts: 2,205	Well Gil, you can take it even without explaining that. __________________ “The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.” Delos B. McKown

12-10-2007, 09:16 AM	#89
The Might Guard of the Citadel Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oxon Posts: 2,205	Well Legate as Gil is gone, go ahead and tell us what I had in mind and post a new one too. __________________ “The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.” Delos B. McKown

12-10-2007, 11:00 AM	#90
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	Well there is at maximum presumed that they got some of Saruman's Orcs after the Battles at the Fords of Isen. Normally they don't fight, they hunt. Hmm... okay. 1. Boromir was not brought to Rivendell by horse. 2. Saruman was not the first hostile force to hold Isengard. 3. Celeborn did not have any siblings. __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories Last edited by Legate of Amon Lanc; 12-10-2007 at 11:15 AM.

12-10-2007, 11:49 AM	#91
The Might Guard of the Citadel Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oxon Posts: 2,205	First one is a lie, not because I remember it, but because the other two are truths. The Dunlendings were in Isengard before Saruman and Celeborn had a brother I believe. __________________ “The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.” Delos B. McKown

12-10-2007, 11:51 AM	#92
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	So you say first one is a lie? That's not correct. __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

12-10-2007, 11:56 AM	#93
Thinlómien Shady She-Penguin Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: In a far land beyond the Sea Posts: 8,093	Funny, because the first one being true was the only one I could recall. Maybe I'll guess as well. Is 2 the lie? __________________ Like the stars chase the sun, over the glowing hill I will conquer Blood is running deep, some things never sleep Double Fenris

12-10-2007, 11:58 AM	#94
The Might Guard of the Citadel Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oxon Posts: 2,205	Oh, if I look at my post, I can see the stupidity. Well 1 and 2 are correct then and 3 is wrong, because it is a lie that he had no siblings. __________________ “The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.” Delos B. McKown

12-10-2007, 12:02 PM	#95
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	2 is not a lie as well. Now I guess it's obvious. #3 is a lie and TM in fact said it, only he jumped to a wrong conclusion: Celeborn HAD a brother. #3 says that he DIDN'T have a brother. So it's false. So what? Should I post a new one or let TM have it? If you wish you may post, TM. If you don't, then I will post something else. Only let me say that this shows one thing: One should also READ WELL the question. This happens all the time when someone misreads a question or sentence (especially when there are double negations involved, like in this case). EDIT: x-ed, yes, correct, have the thread, TM. __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

12-10-2007, 12:30 PM	#96
The Might Guard of the Citadel Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oxon Posts: 2,205	Very well... Aeglos is: A. a plant B. a weapon C. a river __________________ “The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.” Delos B. McKown

12-10-2007, 12:38 PM	#97
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	C is wrong... __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

12-10-2007, 01:38 PM	#98
The Might Guard of the Citadel Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oxon Posts: 2,205	Indeed. __________________ “The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.” Delos B. McKown

12-10-2007, 03:07 PM	#99
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	1. Morgoth was not hurt more than nine times between his resettling in Angband and the War of Wrath. 2. Thorin's cousin did not fight in the Battle of the Five Armies. 3. Aragorn's crown was not originally Anárion's helmet he wore during the time of the Last Alliance. __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

12-10-2007, 03:24 PM	#100
The Might Guard of the Citadel Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oxon Posts: 2,205	Bah, I hate negations. Anyway, the last one is true, it was not Anarion's helmet as this was crushed by a stone thrown from Barad-dur (I still find this the most stupid death in the books) About Morgoth...he was hurt by Fingolfin eight times and Thorondor hurt him once. So only nine times I believe, meaning this is true as well. The second is a lie, because he never had a cousin in the first place. __________________ “The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.” Delos B. McKown

12-11-2007, 01:01 PM	#101
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	So you say the second one is a lie? No, it is true. If he didn't have a cousin, of course his cousin didn't fight in the battle of the Five Armies. I always get you in this one, Miggy __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

12-12-2007, 09:12 AM	#102
The Might Guard of the Citadel Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oxon Posts: 2,205	Ah yes, how can I be so foolish... Not because of the cousin thing, but because of Melkor. He was wounded by Beren (indirectly) after he cut a Silmaril from his crown. So it means that 1 is the lie. __________________ “The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.” Delos B. McKown

12-12-2007, 09:23 AM	#103
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	Good, very good! I'm impressed! (Or should I rather say: "Good, good!" and "Impressive. Most impressive!" ? ) I expected this question will be solved by an ellimination method, and not by direct revealing the concrete flaw. Please continue. __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

12-12-2007, 12:50 PM	#104
The Might Guard of the Citadel Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oxon Posts: 2,205	Indeed...but you are not a loremaster yet. Ok, so here goes: A. A palantir could be held in any position to see something. B. The chain Isildur used for the Ring was found. C. Only one messenger made it to request help from the Eotheod. __________________ “The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.” Delos B. McKown

12-12-2007, 01:09 PM	#105
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	A is wrong. It had to be aligned and the other two are right. __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

12-12-2007, 03:52 PM	#106
The Might Guard of the Citadel Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oxon Posts: 2,205	Indeed. It did seem to me like a very curious "coincidence" that Pippin was looking exactly in that direction... Anyway, please take the thread. __________________ “The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.” Delos B. McKown

12-12-2007, 05:54 PM	#107
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	As we know too well, such "coincidences" happen in Middle-Earth quite often (well, not as often on the large scale, but in this particular... hmm... flow of events). Okay: 1. Only two men survived the disaster at Gladden Fields. 2. There is a tree (described in Tolkien's books) that blossoms in winter. 3. Galadriel visited Khazad-Dum at least once. __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

12-13-2007, 07:58 AM	#108
The Might Guard of the Citadel Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oxon Posts: 2,205	Well, a quite difficult one. Anyway, 1. Is correct I believe, these were Ohtar who made it to Rivendell with the shards of Narsil and Estelmo who was clubbed and seemed to be dead. 2. Not sure. 3. I am very puzzled of this question. I am sure that you are aware that according to one version of the story Galadriel she didn't pass through Khazad-dum, while in another she did. Ok, I say this may be true, thus making number 2 false. __________________ “The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.” Delos B. McKown

12-13-2007, 08:03 AM	#109
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	I am aware of everything But I have to disappoint you: number 2 is correct (there was such a tree brought by the Elves to Númenor) __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

12-13-2007, 08:14 AM	#110
The Might Guard of the Citadel Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oxon Posts: 2,205	Is this supposed to be a hint or the answer? Probably, you mean mallorns, though I thought they blossomed in spring. That probably means 3 is false. __________________ “The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.” Delos B. McKown

12-13-2007, 09:07 AM	#112
The Might Guard of the Citadel Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oxon Posts: 2,205	1 I was indeed wrong about. 2 "Its leaves, like those of the beech but greater, were pale green above and beneath were silver, glistering in the sun; in the autumn they did not fall, but turned to pale gold. In the spring it bore golden blossom in clusters like a cherry, which bloomed on during the summer; and as soon as the flowers opened the leaves fell, so that through spring and summer a grove of malinorni was carpeted and roofed with gold, but its pillars were of grey silver. Its fruit was a nut with a silver shale." These quotes somehow seem to be in contradiction, but indeed such a tree existed. 3 I am quite disappointed of you considering this to be true. As long as it can't be discarded it can also not be labeled as true, as long as other versions exist and there is no certainty about which one would have been the right one. 1 Is true, he went to the East with the Blue Wizards. 2 "but ever went to and fro in the Westlands from Gondor to Angmar, and from Lindon to Lórien, befriending all folk in times of need" 3. Is thus false. __________________ “The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.” Delos B. McKown

12-14-2007, 03:14 AM	#113
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	So you say 3 is false? No, that is not correct. Miggy... And concerning the previous one, the main point was that 3 may or may not be true (depending on the version you pick), but, and that's 100%, the first one is NOT true. And since we are looking for one thing that is definitely not right, this is the one. __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

12-14-2007, 07:26 AM	#114
The Might Guard of the Citadel Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oxon Posts: 2,205	I never don't hate your negations...and I thought I was good in English. 1. is true 2. is false and so 3 is true as well __________________ “The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.” Delos B. McKown

12-14-2007, 07:29 AM	#115
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	Now it finally isn't incorrect. Please continue __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

12-14-2007, 07:31 AM	#116
The Might Guard of the Citadel Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oxon Posts: 2,205	Btw, it reminds me of THIS You don't want to not vote for John Kerry? __________________ “The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.” Delos B. McKown

01-23-2008, 04:06 PM	#117
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	Miggy, give us sumthin'... __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

06-21-2008, 09:31 AM	#118
Nerwen Wisest of the Noldor Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: ˙˙˙ssɐןƃ ƃuıʞooן ǝɥʇ ɥƃnoɹɥʇ Posts: 6,694	Reviving this thread... 1. Charchost was built by the Men of Gondor. 2. Beregond was the son of Beren. 3. Frodo was Bilbo's nephew. __________________ "Even Nerwen wasn't evil in the beginning." –Elmo.