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TheGreatElvenWarrior · 06-22-2008, 01:10 AM

Confusing

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It jumps back and forth, you can be at one point and then a paragraph later it will be 300 years later, then it will be back to where it was... (But not as confusing as HoME, where there's notes in the middle of the chapter.)

Nilpaurion Felagund · 06-22-2008, 04:34 AM

Fall.

Rune Son of Bjarne · 06-22-2008, 06:44 AM

Lovely

Eönwë · 06-22-2008, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGreatElvenWarrior

Confusing

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It jumps back and forth, you can be at one point and then a paragraph later it will be 300 years later, then it will be back to where it was...

It's less based on chronology than on points.

TheGreatElvenWarrior · 06-22-2008, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Eönwë

It's less based on chronology than on points.

I noticed...

skip spence · 06-23-2008, 06:46 AM

Archaic

Tietäjä · 06-29-2008, 03:23 PM

Broken. Mostly because it was too archaic and _boring_.

Aganzir · 06-29-2008, 04:52 PM

Enchanting.

**

And although I don't quite agree with you, welcome to the Downs, Tietäjä.

It is beginning to seem that Finns make up the largest (active) non-native English speaking group here.

Diane C · 09-25-2008, 05:52 AM

Impossible!

try as I might, I just cannot get past the first few pages before tuning out. Very similar to Stephen Hawkins' "A Brief History Of Time", a fashionable book that everyone talked about but no one actually read to completion

TheOrcWithNoName · 05-17-2009, 12:32 PM

Frustrating

Eomer of the Rohirrim · 05-17-2009, 04:07 PM

Sublime.

Inziladun · 05-17-2009, 05:27 PM

Grand

Galadriel55 · 10-31-2010, 01:18 PM

eternal

I also agree with those who said lore, loss, historical.
Especially loss

Galadriel · 11-01-2010, 08:33 AM

Sounds strange but...

Nostalgia. Sad, sad nostalgia that makes you want to weep...

Galadriel55 · 11-01-2010, 03:38 PM

yeah, that too, Galadriel.
If there was one word in English that is a combination of "curse" and "oath", I would choose that word.

Galadriel · 11-02-2010, 04:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Galadriel55

yeah, that too, Galadriel.
If there was one word in English that is a combination of "curse" and "oath", I would choose that word.

Haha. Say, the English language never really had single words as oxymorons, did it?

Galadriel55 · 11-02-2010, 05:25 AM

It's not exactly an oxymoron. For example, in Russian, there in a general word that could mean curse, bless, and swear (as in oath). All these words coe fro the same root. I never heard such a word in English, so I guess there isn't any. Or maybe I'm such a dunce I just don't know English properly.

Eönwë · 11-02-2010, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Galadriel55

It's not exactly an oxymoron. For example, in Russian, there in a general word that could mean curse, bless, and swear (as in oath). All these words coe fro the same root. I never heard such a word in English, so I guess there isn't any. Or maybe I'm such a dunce I just don't know English properly.

Er, the word "swear" can mean both of those two words ("curse" and "oath"), just not at the same time or the way I think you intended. Still... just had to point that out.

xMellrynxMaidenx · 11-02-2010, 12:28 PM

Would have to agree with Galadriel on the word Nostalgia, that would be the one word I would choose to describe it.

Galadriel · 11-04-2010, 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by xMellrynxMaidenx

Would have to agree with Galadriel on the word Nostalgia, that would be the one word I would choose to describe it.

Hurrah for companionship

Almesiva Moonshadow · 11-25-2010, 04:33 PM

Majestic!

...I do hope nobody else said this...

Galadriel · 11-28-2010, 02:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Almesiva Moonshadow

Majestic!

...I do hope nobody else said this...

Haha, just browsing through the replies is so tedious, is it not?

I despise it. Especially when there are 3+ pages.

Almesiva Moonshadow · 11-29-2010, 02:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Galadriel

Haha, just browsing through the replies is so tedious, is it not?

I despise it. Especially when there are 3+ pages.

Yep...my point exactly...

Galadriel55 · 12-15-2010, 08:05 PM

POWERFUL
In all aspects. In all meanings of that word.
And I totally agree with MAGESTIC.

Ozban · 01-07-2011, 03:29 PM

Transcendent

Galadriel55 · 01-07-2011, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Ozban

Transcendent

That's the word!!!

Galadriel · 01-10-2011, 03:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Ozban

Transcendent

How true. Though I still hold that for me, it was nostalgia.

Galadriel55 · 02-20-2011, 04:59 PM

not sure if this has been said before...

Beautiful

Just noticed this: generally the "words" divide into 2 groups: those like lore, nostalgia, grand, and others of this kind, and words like boring, confusing, and the like. Either very positive views, or very negative. I agree with most of the positive ones! But that would stretch it to several dozen words...

Ren the Unclean · 03-16-2011, 07:11 PM

Emotional

The Silmarillion reads like a collection of legends and myths. Stories of this kind often carry a message that hits at a visceral level. And so many things in it are larger than life, like Feanor's passionate reactions to events.

Cirdan · 03-17-2011, 11:02 AM

After reading a couple of the more detailed and polished 1st age stories in Unfinished Tales, The Silmarillion seems quite 'rough', as in rough draft outline, but even that is brilliant.

FlameofAnor · 04-20-2011, 12:15 AM

Bible.

(Seems like it'd be the Bible of Middle-Earth, does it not?)

oddkins · 05-06-2011, 10:39 AM

Legendary...

SlverGlass · 05-06-2011, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Diane C

Impossible!

try as I might, I just cannot get past the first few pages before tuning out. Very similar to Stephen Hawkins' "A Brief History Of Time", a fashionable book that everyone talked about but no one actually read to completion

I am sorry, but I don't really agree with you, Diane C. It does take some time to get into, but once you get the essence, it is unputdownable.

For me, The Silmarillion is,

Imperfection in perfection. A saga. An endowment. Captivating.

(And to be honest, I also found 'A Brief History of Time' to be an interesting read.)

spirit_of_fire · 05-22-2011, 08:55 PM

Indomitable: because the Noldor fought on even when there was no hope.

Hope: because the history of the Noldor on middle earth was filled with hope at first, but it was hope that faded as they realized there could be no lasting victory against Morgoth.

Valor: because valor is strength of spirit, determination, and courage. The characters that made this book for me had this in abundance.

Lastly, Sorrow: I don't think I need to explain this one.

Banthro · 06-23-2011, 02:41 PM

Satisfying

Galadriel · 06-24-2011, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by piosenniel

bare-boned

As in?

FlimFlamSam · 08-04-2011, 06:58 AM

Macalaure spoke: The Silmarillion in one word.
Since the Sil is not as universally loved as the LotR, I'm looking forward to some controversy!

Leperous
corrupting; poisonous

I like Lord of the Rings pure. Not with all that fungal growth attached to it. That stuff is toxic.

Galadriel55 · 08-04-2011, 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by FlimFlamSam

I like Lord of the Rings pure. Not with all that fungal growth attached to it. That stuff is toxic.

I do not quite understand how The Sil is "fungal growth". And it's not "attatched" to LOTR - more the opposite; even though LOTR was published first, The Sil was the original idea.

Can you please explain why you think so?

And welcome to the Downs! Enjoy your stay!

FlimFlamSam · 08-04-2011, 08:02 AM

Galadriel55 spoke: [I do not quite understand how The Sil is "fungal growth".]
A metaphor and a joke on a Hobbit's love of mushrooms.

Galadriel55 spoke: [And it's not "attatched" to LOTR - more the opposite; even though LOTR was published first, The Sil was the original idea.]
Oh, I'm quite aware of the relationships. Moreso than you would believe.

Galadriel55 spoke: [Can you please explain why you think so?]
The ideas in The Silmarillion were quite "fluid" when it came to writing Lord of the Rings. I liked that Gil-Galad was the only son of Feanor, that Neldoreth (home of Thingol and Melian) was the forest abutting the Sea of Rhun (see HOME War of the Ring; the second map) and other massive changes that he was considering when writing Lord of the Rings.

Those stories were meant as a backdrop, not something to be forever encapsulated in Silma and sworn an oath by.

Galadriel55 spoke: [And welcome to the Downs! Enjoy your stay!]
Thank you.

Galadriel55 · 08-04-2011, 08:31 AM

In that case, we will just have to disagree.

I think that The Sil is a beautiful work, even if it wasn't completed by JRRT.

06-22-2008, 01:10 AM	#81
TheGreatElvenWarrior Mighty Quill Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Walking off to look for America Posts: 2,230	Confusing ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- It jumps back and forth, you can be at one point and then a paragraph later it will be 300 years later, then it will be back to where it was... (But not as confusing as HoME, where there's notes in the middle of the chapter.) __________________ The Party Doesn't Start Until You're Dead.

06-22-2008, 04:34 AM	#82
Nilpaurion Felagund Scion of The Faithful Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The brink, where hope and despair are akin. [The Philippines] Posts: 5,312	In the words of the Professor himself: Fall. __________________ フェンリス鴨 (Fenrisu Kamo) The plot, cut, defeated. I intend to copy this sig forever - so far so good...

06-23-2008, 06:46 AM	#86
skip spence shadow of a doubt Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Back on the streets Posts: 1,125	I noticed this one hasn't been used... Archaic __________________ "You can always come back, but you can't come back all the way" ~ Bob Dylan

06-29-2008, 04:52 PM	#88
Aganzir Woman of Secret Shadow Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: in hollow halls beneath the fells Posts: 4,511	Enchanting. ** And although I don't quite agree with you, welcome to the Downs, Tietäjä. It is beginning to seem that Finns make up the largest (active) non-native English speaking group here. __________________ He bit me, and I was not gentle.

09-25-2008, 05:52 AM	#89
Diane C Pile O'Bones Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The other side of the rainbow! Posts: 22	Impossible! try as I might, I just cannot get past the first few pages before tuning out. Very similar to Stephen Hawkins' "A Brief History Of Time", a fashionable book that everyone talked about but no one actually read to completion __________________ *My Friends - You Bow To No One!"*

06-29-2008, 03:23 PM	#87
Tietäjä Newly Deceased Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 2	Broken. Mostly because it was too archaic and _boring_.

05-17-2009, 12:32 PM	#90
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05-17-2009, 04:07 PM	#91
Eomer of the Rohirrim Auspicious Wraith Join Date: May 2002 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 4,859	Sublime. __________________ Los Ingobernables de Harlond

05-17-2009, 05:27 PM	#92
Inziladun Gruesome Spectre Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Heaven's doorstep Posts: 8,037	Grand __________________ Music alone proves the existence of God.

10-31-2010, 01:18 PM	#93
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,381	eternal I also agree with those who said lore, loss, historical. Especially loss __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

11-01-2010, 08:33 AM	#94
Galadriel Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: In Eldamar beside the walls of Elven Tirion Posts: 551	Sounds strange but... Nostalgia. Sad, sad nostalgia that makes you want to weep... __________________ "Hey! Come derry dol! Can you hear me singing?" – Tom Bombadil

11-01-2010, 03:38 PM	#95
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,381	yeah, that too, Galadriel. If there was one word in English that is a combination of "curse" and "oath", I would choose that word. __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

11-02-2010, 05:25 AM	#97
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,381	It's not exactly an oxymoron. For example, in Russian, there in a general word that could mean curse, bless, and swear (as in oath). All these words coe fro the same root. I never heard such a word in English, so I guess there isn't any. Or maybe I'm such a dunce I just don't know English properly. __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

11-02-2010, 12:28 PM	#99
xMellrynxMaidenx Wight Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Riding with the Grey Company Posts: 120	Would have to agree with Galadriel on the word Nostalgia, that would be the one word I would choose to describe it. __________________ ~\|And all will turn, to silver glass. A light on the water, Grey ships pass, Into the West. \|~ "Few now remember them...yet still some go wandering, sons of forgotten kings walking in loneliness, guarding from evil things folks that are heedless."

11-25-2010, 04:33 PM	#101
Almesiva Moonshadow Animated Skeleton Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Serbia Posts: 34	Majestic! ...I do hope nobody else said this... __________________ "...Aim for the moon,if you miss,you may hit a star..." -W.Clement Stone-

12-15-2010, 08:05 PM	#104
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,381	POWERFUL In all aspects. In all meanings of that word. And I totally agree with MAGESTIC. __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

01-07-2011, 03:29 PM	#105
Ozban Haunting Spirit Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: On the road, again... Posts: 73	Transcendent __________________ Let us sit upon the ground, and tell sad stories of the death of kings. - Shakespeare (Richard II)

02-20-2011, 04:59 PM	#108
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,381	not sure if this has been said before... Beautiful Just noticed this: generally the "words" divide into 2 groups: those like lore, nostalgia, grand, and others of this kind, and words like boring, confusing, and the like. Either very positive views, or very negative. I agree with most of the positive ones! But that would stretch it to several dozen words... __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera Last edited by Galadriel55; 02-20-2011 at 05:14 PM.

03-16-2011, 07:11 PM	#109
Ren the Unclean Newly Deceased Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 7	Emotional The Silmarillion reads like a collection of legends and myths. Stories of this kind often carry a message that hits at a visceral level. And so many things in it are larger than life, like Feanor's passionate reactions to events. Last edited by Ren the Unclean; 03-16-2011 at 07:22 PM.

03-17-2011, 11:02 AM	#110
Cirdan Animated Skeleton Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: In the Tower of Elostirion with my new Palantir Posts: 33	After reading a couple of the more detailed and polished 1st age stories in Unfinished Tales, The Silmarillion seems quite 'rough', as in rough draft outline, but even that is brilliant.

04-20-2011, 12:15 AM	#111
FlameofAnor Pile O'Bones Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11	Bible. (Seems like it'd be the Bible of Middle-Earth, does it not?) __________________ "The battle will end and renew Arda's existence: all the Elves shall awaken and the Powers will be young again. The Second Music will be greater than the First."

05-06-2011, 10:39 AM	#112
oddkins Pile O'Bones Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 16	Legendary... __________________ Sometimes in heaven a fable is born..nobody knows where it comes from; it gives us strength and it tells us of love, and everyone of us is touched in their hearts...

05-22-2011, 08:55 PM	#114
spirit_of_fire Pile O'Bones Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 13	Indomitable: because the Noldor fought on even when there was no hope. Hope: because the history of the Noldor on middle earth was filled with hope at first, but it was hope that faded as they realized there could be no lasting victory against Morgoth. Valor: because valor is strength of spirit, determination, and courage. The characters that made this book for me had this in abundance. Lastly, Sorrow: I don't think I need to explain this one.

06-23-2011, 02:41 PM	#115
Banthro Newly Deceased Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 5	Satisfying

08-04-2011, 06:58 AM	#117
FlimFlamSam Pile O'Bones Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 25	Macalaure spoke: The Silmarillion in one word. Since the Sil is not as universally loved as the LotR, I'm looking forward to some controversy! Leperous corrupting; poisonous I like Lord of the Rings pure. Not with all that fungal growth attached to it. That stuff is toxic.

08-04-2011, 08:02 AM	#119
FlimFlamSam Pile O'Bones Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 25	Galadriel55 spoke: [I do not quite understand how The Sil is "fungal growth".] A metaphor and a joke on a Hobbit's love of mushrooms. Galadriel55 spoke: [And it's not "attatched" to LOTR - more the opposite; even though LOTR was published first, The Sil was the original idea.] Oh, I'm quite aware of the relationships. Moreso than you would believe. Galadriel55 spoke: [Can you please explain why you think so?] The ideas in The Silmarillion were quite "fluid" when it came to writing Lord of the Rings. I liked that Gil-Galad was the only son of Feanor, that Neldoreth (home of Thingol and Melian) was the forest abutting the Sea of Rhun (see HOME War of the Ring; the second map) and other massive changes that he was considering when writing Lord of the Rings. Those stories were meant as a backdrop, not something to be forever encapsulated in Silma and sworn an oath by. Galadriel55 spoke: [And welcome to the Downs! Enjoy your stay!] Thank you.

08-04-2011, 08:31 AM	#120
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,381	In that case, we will just have to disagree. I think that The Sil is a beautiful work, even if it wasn't completed by JRRT. __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera